Question about caster weapons
ophidian409
I heard that the max fast recharge and fast cast you can have is 20% adding up and offhand and weapon, but someone also said the mod on weapon and offhand don't stack. Can anyone tell me the truth?
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Yichi
They will stack, but if you have 20% on your offhand, then the other 20% on your main weapon will only be 20% of the 80% left. it basically equals out to about 36% improved overall roughly.
ophidian409
Oh thx for your information, I am happy to know that now
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Shimus DarkRaven
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Originally Posted by MistressYichi
...20% on your offhand, then the other 20% on your main weapon will only be 20% of the 80% left. it basically equals out to about 36% improved...
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These are examples from my research. I'll post the graphs as soon as I can get my scanner up and goin.
I don't believe they fire like that. Here's my reason why:
Each individual item would have to trigger on it's own, which means a 20/100% chance <roughly 1/5> ..nailing both is an off chance, I don't believe hitting a 20% already takes the chance away from the other item down to 80%. You're still casting/using both, one doesn't add to the other, until both are triggered, thus effectively hitting a 40% faster recharge, as simplemath, not forumalaic to get the "specific" % recharge, but loose estimates work well based around this data. I'm not saying it's not 36%, that's not the point of my post.
At least in my experience with some paper+pen plotted graphs, this is the data I get. On the off chance both fire the recharge rate at 20% = 5% chance casting spells simultaneously. Again, these are my personal graphs. Take them as you will. I'm sure other people "know" these results as well; these are just my experience.
I'm not one for cookie-cutter "exact numbers" but relying on them to both fire seems like an icky-situation. If some people just like it as a bonus; thats cool, but I've actually seen some casters rely on it. Not saying this isn't a good way to go; unless you're a gambling type. 1/5 chance on hand and 1/5 chance on offhand, really amounts still to a 1/5 chance when you cast they'll both fire. It's not totally "far out" there, but it's a little difficult again, to rely on.
To Paraphrase. They do not stack. They fire individually. And when, on the chance % you do hit both, yes I will agree it's not a full 40% faster recharge, but it's still a bit far to rely on for consistent results. That's all.
--The Shim
ophidian409
Yes I also heard they fire individually. If so, the precentage would be 20%+20% not 36%. It would be difficult to do the experiement even if u do 100 times, the percentage would be around 35-41 you can't couclude 40% is right even the result is 40%, unless you do several 100 times.
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Shimus DarkRaven
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Originally Posted by ophidian409
Yes I also heard they fire individually. If so, the precentage would be 20%+20% not 36%. It would be difficult to do the experiement even if u do 100 times, the percentage would be around 35-41 you can't couclude 40% is right even the result is 40%, unless you do several 100 times.
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Even then, I'd like to run it by several THOUSAND times..only then would it be truly accurate.
--The Shim
ophidian409
lol I agree it would be pretty accurate if u can run so many times
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unienaule
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Originally Posted by Shimus DarkRaven
1/5 chance on hand and 1/5 chance on offhand, really amounts still to a 1/5 chance when you cast they'll both fire. It's not totally "far out" there, but it's a little difficult again, to rely on.
To Paraphrase. They do not stack. They fire individually. And when, on the chance % you do hit both, yes I will agree it's not a full 40% faster recharge, but it's still a bit far to rely on for consistent results. That's all. --The Shim |
From the 36/4 math, it doesn't lower the chance to 80%, the 4% "super fast" recharge is that other 20%.
Therefore, they don't exactly stack, but what people mean when they ask is, "Do I get a bonus for equipping both?" So the answer to that is yes.
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Shimus DarkRaven
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Originally Posted by unienaule
Ok.
From the 36/4 math, it doesn't lower the chance to 80%, the 4% "super fast" recharge is that other 20%. Therefore, they don't exactly stack, but what people mean when they ask is, "Do I get a bonus for equipping both?" So the answer to that is yes. |
--The Shim
