Judge's Insight + Strength attribute

Gigashadow

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bellevue, WA

W/

Does the 20% armor ignoring of JI stack with the strength attribute (1..16%) when using attack skills?

Volarian

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

NOT-Nomads Of Turmoil

Makes it sound as though JI gives you an auto 20%, but can't see if that would be stacked with Str's AI or not.

Arcanis the Omnipotent

Arcanis the Omnipotent

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Nova Alliance

Me/

Its an odd question, but I dont see any logical reason why it wouldnt.

Basically its like saying you attacks still have Armor Penetration with Strength, and then tacking on an extra 20% with the enchantment.

Man With No Name

Man With No Name

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Manchester, UK

W/

The short answer is -- yes


Just out of interest we'll compare the skill descriptions of Judge's Insight vs Penetrating Blow...

Judge's Insight -- For 8-18 seconds, target ally's attacks deal Holy damage and have +20% armour penetration.

Penetrating Blow -- If this attack hits, you strike for +5-17 damage. This attack has 20% armour penetration.


You should see the difference already. Judge's gives +20% armour penetration whilst Penetrating Blow gives 20% (meaning fixed amount).


The armour penetration from Penetrating Blow doesn't stack with your Strength and I don't believe it stacks with Judge's Insight either (can someone confirm that 2nd point :?)

However with 10 in Strength, an "Eviscerate" would now hit with 30% armour penetration >)


Bottom line is -- with around 10 in Strength -- your attacks will gain 30% ( 1/3 ) of armour penetration. Warriors suddenly become very interesting >)....

Dogmeat

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Nihon

W/

man with no name is correct about penetrating blow and strength not stacking. the game automatically uses the highest AP % and ignores the rest. To my knowledge the only ways for a warrior to get extra AP is through judges insight (+20%) and the sundering effect on weapons (+10% max). With penetrating blow, judges insight and sundering all in effect at the same time it should be possible to get +50% AP.

Rajamic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

IA

Chronicles of Heroes [CoH]

R/Me

The short of it is that Strength, 20% AP from "Penetrating" skills (they say "20%", not "+20%"), and inherent AP on weapons (such as Horn Bows) do not stack with each other, but anything else will stack.

R. Mindwalker

R. Mindwalker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rajamic
The short of it is that Strength, 20% AP from "Penetrating" skills (they say "20%", not "+20%"), and inherent AP on weapons (such as Horn Bows) do not stack with each other, but anything else will stack.
So your saying that weapons with an extra 10 % AP will stack with the Strenght?
Now will an attack with AP also stack with this? When you finally get some AP out of the item that is ofcourse (10% is really small change)

the drizzle

the drizzle

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/N

Ok, I've got it. 16 in strength + judges insight (20) + sundering string (10) + horn bow (10) + penetrating attack (20)= 76% armor penetration! And, with the warrior's 1337 mana pool and 2 pips of regen, you can get off 2 penetrating attacks for ultimate devestation.

Arcador

Arcador

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

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R/N

penetrating attack won't stack. And can you use bow + str attribute?