I think we might have screwed up things (Spoiler Alert!)

I just relized that after you finish the titan quests you have a few things that you screwed up.

1. Dop The Mursaat were good they were trying to prevent the Flame Seeker Profocys which would bring about the Titans. We fixed that up but we really screwed up there.

2. O crap we killed the white mantle and now only those Silly Lion Guards can protect kryta from those Brute Charr.

3. O ya I forgot we abandoned Ascalon now I think we should save it from the crazy Charr.

Anyone what to add to my list about all the stuff we screwed up in Quests and Missions. I think fixing these problems will b ethe focus in Chapter 2...or we'll go to that new continent and run away from it all .

Its not us that screwed up its "Prince Rurik" blame him

Mursaat and White Mantle actually deserved what they got. It's not that their goal was right or wrong, it's what road they took to make it work.

You can save child's life by killing thousands of people or you can kill a child to save thousands of people.

1. The Mursaat sacrificed innocent people to the door in order to keep it closed. It required that the person being sacrificed have some sort of latent magical ability. Why not choose from their own population

2. The White Mantle made their bed when they supported the Mursaats killing, again, some of their numbers could have volunteered instead of grabbing people off the street.

3. Ascalon is in the same position it was when the whole mess started.

Well they got destoyed when the flameseeker profocies came true and ALL mursaat died and also after they came true it pretty much was the end of the world until we stopped the Lich.

So the Mursaat's choice was Let the profocies come true and risk letting the world coming to an end and them being destoyed OR kill some of the "chosen"

which one would you have picked. Tough call for me.

gotta say something the Lich was a big dissapointment to beat, not hard just annoying :P

and the Charr RULE!!!!..

i disagree on that there are only two choices...

why not imprison the chosen? or if imprisonment is too much, why not just kill them? why bind their souls to the stone?

in fact, here is an interesting point -- is the lich's soul alone capable of sustaining the door to Komalie all by itself? (Glint's announcements at the end of Hell's Precipice seems to imply so). if that's the case, is there actually a point having so many souls being trapped in the bloodstone?

the simple / meta-gaming answer is that Anet needed some villains. Anet also needed some sort of plot twist at the climax, hence the plotline.

one can also tell that the plotline seems written by a committee -- since the beginning really doesn't gel with the end (or the middle). i would much rather that they stay with a single plotline of charr vs. ascalon.

say the story might be as it is until the refugees arrived in Kryta. Then the undead is somehow tied with the charrs. then there was a desperate fight against the charrs. then it was necessary to prevent searing from happening to Kryta as well, so you have to unlock some forgotten weapon of the gods. so you have to ascend. this would climax with a quest into the ring of fire, to lock away the Titans (whom the Charrs worship) forever...

in other words, by introducing too many branching arc, i think the story got incredibly messy and weak, not to mention inconsistent... oh well...

And then there is the whole thing of the Charr worshiping the Titans... or at least, the Charr statues you find even in pre-searing certainly resemble the Titans.

hmmm. let me think here.... o ya, we screwed up when we walked into kryta..... biggest mystake caused everysingle thing that ever happened. us walkign into kryta. bad us :P

Yeah I love this game but it would be a whole lot better with a better storyline. After playing through PvE at least 3 times I'm still a bit confused about the plot.

Charr FTW!

Hopefully this allows for the Charr to come back in full force in Chapter 2. That or they have to abandon Tyria because the Charr take over. And when they get to Canatha, the monsters/people there disagree with us being there. And then the Charr visit.

The way I see it, the Mursaat/White Mantle had a good end with a bad means, and Khilbron (and the Shining Blade by association) had a bad end with good means.

Personally, I see them as two competing evil forces. Much like Cobra and Cobra-La in the old GI Joe cartoons. :-P

You had to be a chosen. Being a chosen doesn't mean you just have magical ability. I'm sure if a Mursaat was found to be a chosen, he would have been sacrificed.

So does the statue outside Nolani Academy.

How in any way is the plot inconsistant?

First off I would like to ask how anyone can say that the mursaat and the mantle were the good guys, for murdering inocent people and bining their souls to the bloodstone, thats like saying it is ok to kill someone becasue you need their organs.

If the Mursaat were so woried about the titans they could have done what we did.

Last of all, the Charr worship fire, the Stormcaller put out their fires, thats going to knock the starch out of their offensive.

i think you're missing the bigger picture. the mursaat didn't kill the chosen for selfish reasons. they did it to protect the whole world from the titans. they may have taken the wrong path, but in their situation, what would you do? i'm sure they saw the lives of a few as a justifiable sacrifice when saving the lives of millions. they didn't know about the power of the lich and what his soul could do.

the shining blade didn't see the bigger picture either. all they saw were the "evils" committed by the mursaat, and dedicated their lives to stop that.

the real bad guy of the story would be that b*tch glint. she knew everything from the beginning and just let us do the dirty work.

1. It is the Mursaat helping them, why should they volounteer themselves, when there making the ritual to sacrifice them, would Tyria want more Mursaat so they can keep the Gate of Komoli (spelling error?) closed so there world is safe?

2. Same again...

3. The whole leaving Ascalon while the Charr make havoc is right though, I thought that myself.

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Again, the Mursaat were protecting Tyria from the Titans...

I think the Titans have one more door beyond the Door of Khomalie, that they were determined to defend.

There's Gwen inside.

We RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up majorly.

no one is answer my other claim, in agreeing with the Mursaat are you saying it is ok to grab someone off the street, kill them and take their organs, one death can save 6 people a net gain of 5, is that right? No! Niether was the Mantl and MUrsaat executing people to the stone.

The Mursaat did not care about Tyria, we were nothing more than sheep to them, they only cared about their own survival, and we had every right to destroy them to stop them from killing us.

Think about this. If the Mursaat found out that 1 million of our deaths at one time would seal the door forever, would they do it? Yes, in a heartbeat. Their attitude, "sucks to be you".

We are taking care of the titians, so obviously there is a third option. Us, we are protecting Tyria from the titans, the Mursaat were protecting themselves, humnas be damned.

I am seeing the "big picture", murder is murder, wrong is wrong, there is no grey area, there is no "it's wrong to kill, but not in this case"

Would you "volenteer" to be a chosen one, would you send your wife, husband, childern, brothers, sister or parents? Or would you grab a weapon and say, "over my dead body". I think the fact that the mantle had to lie is telling enough, for the mantle it was all about power, the rest of us be damned again.

and in the end of it all, ascalon is still screwed.