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knock kneed knobby

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

future express

R/Mo

07 Dec 2005 at 20:39 - 1

ive been playing for time, but im still a noob!

Ok rangers ARE the best, just to establish that and I don't like warrior monks.

RIGHT--- question one!

when healing breeze does +10 hp for example, is that +10 every second or what??

also, are beasts worth it or should i load my xp into wilderness survival instead?

im a monk so i dont really need troll ungeunt but are kindle arrows and stuff worth it (i know poison arrow is but ill get that later)?

thanks in advance (SO YOU BETTER HELP, youve already got all the reward you are going to!!

)

Boubou

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quebec, Canada

L'ordre [LO]

Mo/W

07 Dec 2005 at 21:03 - 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by knock kneed knobby

ive been playing for time, but im still a noob!

Ok rangers ARE the best, just to establish that and I don't like warrior monks

Awwww... sorry I can't help... I deleted my ranger and I have a W/Mo... and how can you judge that when you don't even know how you will build your own character ? W/Mo are nice to run and it makes change from being a caster. I deleted my ranger because I prefered to play with a necro instead.

Quote:

RIGHT--- question one!

when healing breeze does +10 hp for example, is that +10 every second or what??

also, are beasts wrth it or should i load my xp into wilderness survival instead?
im a monk so i dont really need troll ungeunt but are kindle arrows and stuff worth it (i know poison arrow is but ill get that later)

thanks in advance (SO YOU BETTER HELP, youve already got all the reward you are going to!!

)

Seriously, leave the judgement out. When Healing Breeze says +10 it's 10 health regeneration pipe. If you do some search you can find some calcul that will show you how much healing you will receive per second.

And my ranger didn't used the pets. I was using Marksmanship / Expertise and Wilderness survival. The second profession was not important; except when I was running in the desert where I used monk to get mending... that's all.

And one nice thing about Troll Unguent is, that is not considered as an enchantments. So if you encounter a mean mesmer with Shatter Enchantment, with Troll you will continue to be healed; while with Breeze the enchantments will be removed... and you will suffer some damage!

Fye Duron

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Chico, CA, USA

Dragon Fang

07 Dec 2005 at 21:27 - 3

Rangers Rock!... W/Mo's have there place too... As do every other class

10 pips of regen equal 20 life per second.

Beast is not worth it...

Troll Unguent is one of the best self heals in any class...

darkMishkin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Mo/

08 Dec 2005 at 00:27 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fye Duron

Beast is not worth it...

I recommend that you read Jenosavel and Epinephrine's Guide to Pets.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenosavel and Epinephrine's Guide to Pets

Pets add damage even without using energy - that extra ~11 damage a second for no energy is about the cheapest damage you'll ever find

mish

Tronny07

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Manlock Bearloves

W/Me

08 Dec 2005 at 03:50 - 5

see now,proclaiming the title "help the noobs"and saying rangers are the best,and w/mo suck,now thats just bad,back on track...and monk for a ranger is useless,so what if it heals,thats what troll unguent is for,maybe smite hex would help even with 0 smiting,2nd drop the beast mastery,my setup only uses h/e much marksmanship it needs my bow is 15-28 req 8 14% over 50,+30,10/10,so all i do is knock my marksmanship to 8(note,w/ my lvl 18 i have all 3 sup. runes,so im around 250hp ish,havent been on him in a while)which is probably 5,and my wilderness survival and expertise is around 13/13,which also helps cause my skills barely cost anything,especially since im a interupt ranger/crippler,concussion shot is barely 10 or so,so yeah i wouldnt mind the beast mastery,unless you really want a stupid pet...3rd,if ur going for ignite or kindle,go for kindle in places where their not grouped,and ignite when theri in groups...and gj,poison arrows the way to go!

Kassad

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

08 Dec 2005 at 04:01 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tronny07

saying rangers are the best,and w/mo suck,now thats just bad,back on track

Im sorry, but I have yet to see a W/Mo that doesnt use mending.

imaginary friend

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

marhans grottoooo

Empires of Underworld [EoU]

R/Me

08 Dec 2005 at 04:11 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kassad

Im sorry, but I have yet to see a W/Mo that doesnt use mending.

stereotype, and mending can help you if you have vampiric and are too lazy to switch weapons back and forth

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

08 Dec 2005 at 04:12 - 8

Mending is not a decent counter to Vamp degen.

That said, I've had the pleasure of meeting up with some W/Mos that were Smiting... those encounters were few and far between.

Riplox

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

North Carolina

Shrophire Protectors [Lion]

W/

08 Dec 2005 at 04:17 - 9

I'm a W/Mo and I use mending, but only for my griffon farming setup. Other than that, I do a protective bond/succor build that works pretty well.

LordMahal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Germany

R/Mo

08 Dec 2005 at 06:43 - 10

I only use my pet when Im bored, or Im in low level places. Trouble with pets, like undead, they sometimes chase things they shouldnt, and then attract extra enemies. I would never ever ever take a pet into FOW. Too many groups for that stupid bear to attack.
I also have a w/mo, and have never used mending yet.

Shimus DarkRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Titusville, PA <nowhere>

KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer>

W/Mo

08 Dec 2005 at 08:15 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kassad

Im sorry, but I have yet to see a W/Mo that doesnt use mending.

I hardly ever use mending, whatsoever, unless I'm running or in a solo build. To me, I can't justify the contiual loss of an energy regen when you only have two to begin with. The only continual enchantment I usually ever run is Balthazar's Spirit. Gotta love that energy regen/adrenaline build on each hit you suffer. Mix breed healing/smiting FTW :P

--The Shim

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

08 Dec 2005 at 14:53 - 12

I have a w/mo and the only monk skills i use are judges insight and ressurect

Recently i changed him to w/n and found weaken armor much more usefun than judges......

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

08 Dec 2005 at 14:56 - 13

Quote:

...and monk for a ranger is useless

mmm lets go with ranger smiter..judges insight = ouch.

r/mon i use for chest farming.

as for damage useally full ranger. depends how u use ya charc and wut build.

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

08 Dec 2005 at 15:05 - 14

I don't think any profession combo is "useless" (bar E/W maybe =P).

HellBoy

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Boston, MA

We Ride The Short [Bus]

W/Mo

08 Dec 2005 at 15:26 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kassad

Im sorry, but I have yet to see a W/Mo that doesnt use mending.

Mending? Why would I diminish my two energy regen with Mending? Ugh! Go Balthazars baby. I have a Ranger as well and I only bring charm animal with me. Main reason is, I will go out solo to play and the pet usually cuts off the badguys before they get to me. Course I'm only Lvl11

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

W/N

08 Dec 2005 at 16:02 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistressYichi

I have a w/mo and the only monk skills i use are judges insight and ressurect

Recently i changed him to w/n and found weaken armor much more usefun than judges......

kerpow!

Go for 30s. recycle time! yay efficiency!

I'd help ya out, but your class bigotry goes against my principles.

I for one can try and come up with efficient class combos for any setup but it takes time. If you think Rangers rock and Warriors suck, then I see no reason to help ya since you obviously know so much Mr. OP...

Jenosavel

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Jul 2005

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

08 Dec 2005 at 16:14 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordMahal

I only use my pet when Im bored, or Im in low level places. Trouble with pets, like undead, they sometimes chase things they shouldnt, and then attract extra enemies. I would never ever ever take a pet into FOW. Too many groups for that stupid bear to attack.
I also have a w/mo, and have never used mending yet.

Actually, unless an enemy is on top of you and already beating on you, the pet will only attack something you're attacking. Its AI is quite predictable in that respect. If you fire an arrow into a distant group and don't want the pet chasing after it, you'd better immediately begin moving around (before the arrow lands) as a sign that the arrow was loosed on accident. Otherwise the pet will dash off where you sent it.

While pet AI may have issues, attacking something that you didn't tell it to sure isn't one of them.

So of course, the solution to your problem is to be careful what you're telling your pet to attack. No sense in getting mad at it for running in, if you were the one sending it in there in the first place.

knock kneed knobby

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

future express

R/Mo

08 Dec 2005 at 19:19 - 18

cheers guys, lots of complaints about warrior monks being crap :P lol.

i only dont like em cos they kick my arse in pvp and im too stubborn to go with the flow.

with expertise, wen it sez 4% less, does that mean if i put 3 points on it, skills that cost 10 will only cost 9?? OR if i get it to 8% will it round it up or not?

BrandonIT

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Dallas, TX

Tribal Instincts

R/E

08 Dec 2005 at 19:35 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by knock kneed knobby

with expertise, wen it sez 4% less, does that mean if i put 3 points on it, skills that cost 10 will only cost 9?? OR if i get it to 8% will it round it up or not?

Expertise Guide here on Guru. Best I've ever seen.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...sts-id1154.php

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

08 Dec 2005 at 19:43 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by knock kneed knobby

ive been playing for time, but im still a noob!

Ok rangers ARE the best, just to establish that and I don't like warrior monks.

RIGHT--- question one!

when healing breeze does +10 hp for example, is that +10 every second or what??

also, are beasts worth it or should i load my xp into wilderness survival instead?

im a monk so i dont really need troll ungeunt but are kindle arrows and stuff worth it (i know poison arrow is but ill get that later)?

thanks in advance (SO YOU BETTER HELP, youve already got all the reward you are going to!!

)

pfff. There is so much in this post that screams for a correction, but don't know where to start.
rangers aren't the best. rangers rock, but I wouldn't call any character 'the best'.
wa/mo...played often bad, therefor stereotyped.
breeze...10 pips is 20 hp/s. But breeze is a spell I wouldn't bring into pvp...
if your a monk, i'd say neither invest in both W.S. as BM. Then again, you are talking probably about pve, where almost anything works besides the Tiger's Fury Healer....
If you are monking, I'd say use a staff, not a bow...

peterwestonc

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hobbits Of Doom

N/E

08 Dec 2005 at 20:10 - 21

in my opinion if u are a monk u dont need to attack just heal, but beasts are good as they can attack while u heal !!!

Boubou

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quebec, Canada

L'ordre [LO]

Mo/W

08 Dec 2005 at 20:33 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterwestonc

in my opinion if u are a monk u dont need to attack just heal, but beasts are good as they can attack while u heal !!!

Except.. if your beast die.. you're in trouble, all your skills are disabled for few seconds. What's the point of doing a R/Mo if you don't attack and you're planning to heal ? You could do a Mo/R, have a way better healing output and still have a pet!