i was curious what the ultimate fire weapon is ie wepon and sidekick if not 2 handed.
is the rodgers and kinderlock combo the best?
ultimate fire weapon
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Lady Ting
20% Cast wand
20% Cast 20% Recharge Item
thats 40% of fast cast! and these are collecters item LOL screw green
20% Cast 20% Recharge Item
thats 40% of fast cast! and these are collecters item LOL screw green
z2kona
hahaha don't listen to the above poster..he's a n00b
there is no such as "stacking" in guild wars, which means you can't have a 20% fast cast wand and 20% fast cast icon to make it 40%..
greens pwns u..
there is no such as "stacking" in guild wars, which means you can't have a 20% fast cast wand and 20% fast cast icon to make it 40%..
greens pwns u..
Lou
Why does everyone who speak perfect english have to say n00b OR nUb or Pwnd. It makes you look like an idiot. and yes if you have a wand with 20% recharge and a focuis with 20% it does stack to make it a 40% chance fo recharge so thats usually the best way to go.
Meroim
I was under the impression it stacked to two rolls of 20% recharge.. meaning one instance of 0,2*0,2=4%, and two of 0,2*0,8=16%, meaning you have 32% chance of increased recharge and 4% of doubly increased recharge?
psychotron
if the faster cast doesn't matter as much, go with the green combo. if the + to skill doesn't matter and you'd prefer faster cast, go with the collectors. they're almost the same either way.
HA! spoke perfect english and didn't use the words pwnd, nub or noob
D'oh!
HA! spoke perfect english and didn't use the words pwnd, nub or noob
D'oh!
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ok. right now i am using the ragos wand and kinderlock.
what i am trying to figure out what is better then them to get? in english sorry guys the basics of 20%this and 10% that is over my head..lol in english what name of a wepon ie. ragos wand, fire staf with .. is best..
what i am trying to figure out what is better then them to get? in english sorry guys the basics of 20%this and 10% that is over my head..lol in english what name of a wepon ie. ragos wand, fire staf with .. is best..
Lady Ting
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Originally Posted by z2kona
there is no such as "stacking" in guild wars, which means you can't have a 20% fast cast wand and 20% fast cast icon to make it 40%..
greens pwns u..
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Originally Posted by Azeroths Hammer
Why does everyone who speak perfect english have to say n00b OR nUb or Pwnd. It makes you look like an idiot. and yes if you have a wand with 20% recharge and a focuis with 20% it does stack to make it a 40% chance fo recharge so thats usually the best way to go.
what was that u was saying z2kona?! NOOB
jesh
They stack for 32% on 20% recharge, and 4 for 40%, like someone else already said. Green items aren't that hot unless they're something like the rockmolder.
Fye Duron
They do not stack. Whenever you cast a spell it triggers the 20% chance. Then it triggers another 20% chance for the other item.
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well is anyone know for sure if they stack..lol
and if they stack what would be the ultimate combo? and if they dont stack ultimate combo? ultimate combo means names of weapons with mods..lol
jesh
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Originally Posted by Fye Duron
They do not stack. Whenever you cast a spell it triggers the 20% chance. Then it triggers another 20% chance for the other item.
That's what I just said. That's why you have the 4% chance for double the effect. Geez, seriously.
Manfred
They stack to 20% and then 20% of the remaining 80% chance, yes.
Cellectors items are best UNLESS you get to the nice high-end 5 energy>50 wands and such.
jesh
You could always get a collector wand with +5 energy always, right outside Nolani.
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hmmm so where would i find the best ones needed?
lol anyone wanna go get them and sell them to me..heee do i modify them when i get them? if i get a collectors. i will loose all the stats that came with the green. so how is going to a collectors which may just give me a >5 energy better?
menelik_seth
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Originally Posted by jesh
You could always get a collector wand with +5 energy always, right outside Nolani.
Hey thanks for the headsup. my first char (ele/ranger) breezed through that area without exploring; being the n00b I was, I jumped from mission to mission without explroing out of the towns, so I missed that collector completely lol
The dmg is the suckiest but the energy boost is nice. Question tho: Does the Critical hit -20% and dmg -10% Affect the skills or just the wand blasts? I currently carry all the collectors artifacts (+12, 20% increase in casting speed and recharge). And all my wands are gold with a +3-4 energy boost while enchanted or >50%. I got them at pretty good deals so I'm pretty happy  I don't think I could get any better unless I get really good drops (dont plan to spend any amount for green items).To me, energy is important; but the max dmg is also good to keep em hurtin while I recharge. But for the wand/artifact combo ur basically looking for that energy boost. Need anything fancier, get a staff  The only one I have is a Hale Firestaff of Fortitude with 50+ health and 19% casting speed using air magic... modest, but good for a quick healthboost.I'm still trying to figure this game out so my views may change... kovey00
I like to use my perfect insightful fire staff of fortitude. It has 20% fast cast, 20% faster recharge, +5 energy, and +30 health. Just as good if not better as any green weapon and made it for alot less money, too.
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right now i am getting: kinderlock and rogar's
recharge 20% on each fast cast 10% fire +1 energy +12 dmg 20%
Baeroth Warbringer
I basically want to know the same thing: Which is Better?
-Rago's Wand and Kindlerock, or -Rago's Wand and Collector's Artifact, or -Collectors Wand and Collectors Artifact Also, where do you get that Artifact?  -B carnivore
why do you guys act like this is some kind of game secret. just pick what ever combo you prefer.
tigernz
I found a rare wand with +5 energy (when enchanted - which is pretty much always for an ele) and +18% recharge on...Divine Favour skills
 But it leads me to believe that +5 energy when enchanted / +20% recharge on fire skills could exist. That'd be sexy.
Magik_One
wow i looked outside nolani and that wand is crap...no fast cast...isnt even max damage...
menelik_seth
Here ya go Baeroth:
http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Unique_items_list U should find all the info you'll need to make ur decision, and locate the items you seek. Personally, any wand without energy bonus (even with perfect fastcast/recharge) is of no use to me. Magik_One, lol first of all the Nolani is a pretty Low-Level area; ur lookin in the wrong place if you want max damage. Why that wand is looker is for the +5 energy always. Not bad for a starting character who doesn't have the Plat to buy that 5k gold wand with situational +energy... or the attrib points to use it. One man's "Crap" is another man's treasaure... I wish I had explored Nolani when I was a nub lol, would have made my adventuring a lot easier; I was stuck with a low dmg wand with no energy bonus. The only thing that worries me about that wand is the negative attribs to critical hit and damage. Dunno wat that's about... Gertrude
So where can I find the collector with the highest damage fire wand?
menelik_seth
hehe, again: Guild Wiki is ur buddy:
http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Genera...stal_Desert%29 The collectors artifacts are the best imo; I prefer them over some of the gold drops I found. The wands, well... no energy bonus... but they are good to keep ya in the game long enough to find/buy one tho The guild wiki home page lists everything you'll ever need to know. Just click on the links and soak up the knowledge Personally, I only reffer to it when I wanna quickly find out what collectors parts are good for which; salvaging as well... but you can basically find out anything if that's what u want.
Magik_One
uhmm could some one tell me what rogars is?....is it a good fire item?
Hiryu
There's no such thing as "best" fire item... It all depends on the build you're using.
But if you want the stats to Rago's items, you can check them out at guildwarswiki Nosaj Noshnoj
I would like to add my 2 cents on the 20%/20% debate to try and help those replying understand.
Try to visualize with me if you will.... Your character has 2 items, 1 in each hand. Each has a 20 % mod. 20% = a 1 in 5 chance of whatever the mod is of happening. Follow me now. 1. The character casts a spell. 2. The first item goes through it's 1 in 5 chance to have success. If that 20% happens to prevail, then it doesn't matter what the second item mods are, it was successful. If it falls into the 80% failure, THEN the next items 20% chance comes into effect. 3. The process begins again for the second item assuming it has the same 20% mod. 4. So no, the 20% don't stack and become 40%, but you have 2 chances of 20% I think if my math is correct it is like a 32% chance of success, but i'm not sure if thats totally accurate.
Salia Mare
I don't get your math :/
I agree concerning the process you speak of but: 1/5 +4/5*1/5= 9/25 so 36% Anyway it's not the point of the OP question. Then my answer: there is no ultimate combinaison, make your one choice.
Lord Mendes
i think rago's flame staff is best for me. You get constant 15 energy with 20 20 and enchants last 20 percent longer. And + it looks cool and easy to farm if you have final assault. And if you are too lazy to farm for it, you can just buy it for 70k now.
Bleidd
Agree with the above. My E/Me found a Rago's Flame Staff on her first trip through Sorrows Furnace, alone except for her henchbots at that. I hadn't played in several months prior to the SF update so I had no idea what this green staff that had just dropped was...
Stat wise though its solid. The +20% enchant and +5 energy are comparable to the extra +20% fast cast/recharge (cannot recall which) on the collector wand/focus set, especially if you run an enchantment build (I use X Attunement and Elemental Attunement in my builds). And its graphic is pretty sweet. But as most everyone has already said its entirely up to personal choice. Max damage IMO isn't so imperative to an Ele wand/staff if the stats on it are more than enough to compensate for it. Oh noes! I just did 10 damage instead of 12! Yeah... that's hardly a big deal.
Divinus Stella
Surely theres no point in having 20% enchants when your only using 1 attune, wouldnt the mod work better as extra health or armour?
For my ele i take the collectors 20/20 with +5 energy and +5 armour then a 20% sword to switch to when using ele attune. sphere830
I have experimented with all combos of wand/artifact that i have found in the game, perfect collector's, rago's, etc. I have been using a customized collector's wand and artifact to solo farm and have beat all of the quest with them. I have had all of Rago's things and always end up peddling them off because I get so much money for them. I can't bring myself to customizing a 50k+ item! I suppose when I get bored of making money, I may get and customize a rago wand, until then though, Ill stick with the collector's. Besides I have some nice golds if anyone is interested in buying them. My IGN is Lorian Maelstrom, Balsk Bushbuff, and Medea Sorlean. Have a good one.
Francis Crawford
The various new Canthan wands probably trump everything that came before. For instance, I would love to have 20/20 on both my wand and my artifact.
Maria The Princess
im using a ragos wstuff and its working great so far.... i also have the wand with a millus eye
ArTy
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Originally Posted by menelik_seth
hehe, again: Guild Wiki is ur buddy:
http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Genera...stal_Desert%29 Yup, five minotaur horns is eastiest way to get a max damage fire wand, collector just outside Elona reach with 20% recharge While 5 Dune Burrower jaws is the easier way of obtaining a 20/20 flame artifact, collector in Arid sea  http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Sir_Pohl_Sanbert Halbert
I use the wayward wand and straw effigy combo for my fire ele. except for the fact that it doesn't have an enchanting mod, it seems like one of the best choices for an elementalist.
milias
First, I'd like to say that there is no "ultimate" fire weapon. It really depends on the build you're using. That being said, I generally prefer having 20/20 for both wand and offhand. And yes, the 20%'s do stack, but it's not 32%, it's 36%. Here's the math:
The chance that neither 20% will kick in is 0.8*0.8=0.64, hence the chance that at least one will kick in is 1-0.64=0.36=36%. This is very elementary probabilities guys... Here're my takes on some of the other available mods: +30hp - Very solid offhand mod, effective for offsetting the health lost due to runes +1 Fire - Not worth it, imho. The added damage is small and happens only occasionally 5>50 and 5 while enchanted - Might be good, but you already have high ES 20/20 cast - Very useful, imho, especially when casting MS or some other spell with long cast times. In battle, every second counts. The faster you can pump out damage, the better. 20/20 recharge - This really depends on your build. If you're using GoR with MS, the recharge for MS is moot. tramssii
Do you guys realize that you can buy a wand with 20% cast, 20% recharge, as well as a side item with 20% cast, and 20% recharge. And did you also know what it only costs around 6k, without the materials, to craft both of them? Did you also know you can use this combo with any spell casting profession in the game? The thing is that the Wand is in factions and the side item is in the first game. Just thought you might want to look into that option because you seem to want to go that way. From my experience in using this item build with Air, death, and fire, i must say that it works quite well in most situations. So unless you want more punch or more energy, i would tell you to try and cut down the cast and recharge time (especially for fire spells) and get your damage out quick to support your buddies.
Trylo
personally my fav combo is:
Fire Wand (req 8-12) +5 energy while health is above 50% 20% faster recharge owith Fire skills Flame Artifact (req 8-12) Energy +12 Armor +5 (always) Health -20 Health +30 Theres some sort of artifact like this, ive seen screenshots on it
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