if you use ignite arrows with barrage, do each of the 6 arrows of barrage explode on inpact?
thanks for any feedback
question about barrage ranger
krnkrackmonkey
Dmitri3
Barrage removes all preparations.
chippxero
Barrage is best used with a 5/1 vampric shortbow imo due to it not working with preparations extra 5 damage and health from every arrow, good when your doing low level farming.
Batou of Nine
you can also use enchantments with barrage. So you could use Judges Insight, or Strength of Honor, or Conjure (Element)... for added dmg..
Zobi
I use barrage with a Zealous bow, for more energy for other attacks.
Rogmar
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Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
you can also use enchantments with barrage. So you could use Judges Insight, or Strength of Honor, or Conjure (Element)... for added dmg..
Strength of Honor is melee 
chris_nin00
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Originally Posted by Rogmar
Strength of Honor is melee
A common mistake ""
I stacks with spirits like favorable winds and winnowing, and enchantments like conjure _____.
A common mistake "" I stacks with spirits like favorable winds and winnowing, and enchantments like conjure _____.
krnkrackmonkey
so then i have to be r/e right? and which conjure element is the best?
chris_nin00
Fire works well with kindle arrows. Otherwise it really doesn't matter.
Former Ruling
Judge's Insight > Conjure X , IMHO.
chris_nin00
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Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Judge's Insight > Conjure X , IMHO.
Judge's Insight blows my energy management out the window.
Kaospryx
Also, if you use conjure, you can't use a bowstring, so no 5/-1 vamp or 1/-1 zealous.
chris_nin00
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Originally Posted by Kaospryx
Also, if you use conjure, you can't use a bowstring, so no 5/-1 vamp or 1/-1 zealous.
You can if you use kindle arrows and conjure flame.
I know that the kindle arrows says an 'additional' fire __ damage but there is some bug that makes conjure flame go into affect.
If you don't use kindle arrows Kaospryx is right.
I know that the kindle arrows says an 'additional' fire __ damage but there is some bug that makes conjure flame go into affect.
If you don't use kindle arrows Kaospryx is right.
krnkrackmonkey
after looking at skills and stuff, i got another idea. can you guys comment on it? since im using a 5/1 vamp, which means no fiery string, i was thinkin about using necro secondary. im pretty sure arrows count as physical damage, right? so that means if i use mark of pain, all adjacent foes take damage. and if i use barrage with that, every gets hit with mark of pain multiple times? and im pretty sure mark of pain doesnt count as a preparatgion.
feedback appreciated ^^
feedback appreciated ^^
Shwitz
You're right, Mark of Pain counts as a hex, not a preparation. However, Barrage will only trigger the Mark once, unless you've marked several enemies. Barrage fires one arrow per target, so it will only trigger with each shot. If you fired a Dual Shot, it might trigger Mark twice.
A nice hex from the necro line to use might be Weaken Armor for single target damage. My opinion, for a Barrage-er, is that a self-enchantment is the best way to go, like Conjure or Judge's Insight, as it will add its buff to all the arrows you fire when you Barrage at a clump of enemies, instead of hexes, which usually only affect one target. Mark of Pain is a nice idea, but I think that its best used with a quick-firing build like a Quick Shot or interrupt-chain build so that you can trigger Mark as many times as you can in a short period.
A nice hex from the necro line to use might be Weaken Armor for single target damage. My opinion, for a Barrage-er, is that a self-enchantment is the best way to go, like Conjure or Judge's Insight, as it will add its buff to all the arrows you fire when you Barrage at a clump of enemies, instead of hexes, which usually only affect one target. Mark of Pain is a nice idea, but I think that its best used with a quick-firing build like a Quick Shot or interrupt-chain build so that you can trigger Mark as many times as you can in a short period.
ghezbora
You can't use Kindle + Conjure with Barrage, because Barrage will remove Kindle.
Former Ruling
^ Got to it first.
How can you prefer Kindle+Conjure in barrage build.
Also...Energy management on a Bow Ranger? Add a Zealous string if you need energy..you hit upto 6 energy for a barrage hit.
How can you prefer Kindle+Conjure in barrage build.
Also...Energy management on a Bow Ranger? Add a Zealous string if you need energy..you hit upto 6 energy for a barrage hit.
Pardoz
The real problem with JI is the downtime - even with a decent Enchanting grip it won't last more than about 15-20 secs before you have to recast.
krnkrackmonkey
so JI+barrage is most recommended?
{IceFire}
conjure flame ownz imo, my ranger does perdition with henches (barrage, conjure flame, glyph of lesser eng, asteroid shower) and gg, usually...
krnkrackmonkey
well im reluctant to use conjure flame. cus then i have to replace my 5/1 vamp string with a fiery string. with vamp string i can deal +5 dmg and get healed a fair amount. so whats better, fiery+conjure+barrage? or vampstring + barrage + judges insight?
LightningHell
I thought vampiric string only stealed health from the damage you dealt, therefore resolving in no more extra damage dealt, just that you gain 5 life per hit from it. Zealous, that's another matter.
It's Meteor Shower, not Asteroid Shower. And it causes exhaustion, and it has a 25 energy cost. Far too much for a ranger.
"You can if you use kindle arrows and conjure flame.
I know that the kindle arrows says an 'additional' fire __ damage but there is some bug that makes conjure flame go into affect.
If you don't use kindle arrows Kaospryx is right. "
Too lazy to quote.
It's been stated over and over and over and over again that Barrage removes all preperations. Thanks.
It's Meteor Shower, not Asteroid Shower. And it causes exhaustion, and it has a 25 energy cost. Far too much for a ranger.
"You can if you use kindle arrows and conjure flame.
I know that the kindle arrows says an 'additional' fire __ damage but there is some bug that makes conjure flame go into affect.
If you don't use kindle arrows Kaospryx is right. "
Too lazy to quote.
It's been stated over and over and over and over again that Barrage removes all preperations. Thanks.
heist23
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Originally Posted by krnkrackmonkey
well im reluctant to use conjure flame. cus then i have to replace my 5/1 vamp string with a fiery string. with vamp string i can deal +5 dmg and get healed a fair amount. so whats better, fiery+conjure+barrage? or vampstring + barrage + judges insight?
i'd like to say vamp+JI is better because of the +10% AP and the holy damage, not to mention the added +5 from the vamp. i'm not too sure about the conjure, but in my experience it's not quite worth it because the conjure and the fiery bowstring both get mitigated by armor. whenever i go up against any armored enemies (i.e. ranger and warrior enemies) my DPS drops using an elemental bowstring. that needs to be confirmed, so don't take my word for it.
krnkrackmonkey
k thanks for all the feedback. i decided to go with 5/1 vamp + barrage + Judges Insight.
Bane of Mortality
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Originally Posted by chippxero
Barrage is best used with a 5/1 vampric shortbow imo due to it not working with preparations extra 5 damage and health from every arrow, good when your doing low level farming.
Do vampiric bowstrings do extra damage? I thought they just gave you some of the damage you normally do...
Emerald_Dream
i think they add the 5 damage
LaserLight
I checked GuildWiki. It says that Vampy strings do life stealing, like Vampiric Gaze and Vapiric Touch. So yes, they tack on +1-5 damage to your attacks. This is probably why everyone wants them so badly, and why they cost a mint and a half.
Sereng Amaranth
yes it adds damage, have you ever been hit with one? it doesn't take 5 off the regular dmg and put it under LS...LS is additional
and armor pen on JI is 20%
and armor pen on JI is 20%
lasteele
the whole combo for barrage is use a vamp bow and a pet.thats all it is there is no skills that work well with it but that.using barrage makes you a lite support mortar position.if everyone dies you are screwd big time.
Fenix Swiftblade
Barrage + Zealous + Judge's is probably the best combo, especially if you can find someone else to put JI on you. Without the Zealous you're really going to run into energy problems, with zealous, you can barrage almost every shot. Also remember that Favorable winds give each barrage arrow +6 damage, so don't overlook it.
lasteele
i have used barrage alot and fire it all the time the only time i run into energy problems is when the battle lasts over 2 minutes
marzabadjeh
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Originally Posted by chris_nin00
Fire works well with kindle arrows. Otherwise it really doesn't matter.
u only get +dmg from conjure when you do fire dmg.. so you nee a fire string