Is this a scam????

Sir Hadies

Sir Hadies

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

W/Mo

Ok my buddy who plays guild wars got kiced from it for 164 hours ok..Now he was doing the Elona run (he dose it under 10 min and he never scams ppl)any way he get the last crystal and says pay time.Well they all pay but one guy.That guy gives him 600g and he was doing the run for 1k.And my buddy says ok someone better give me 400g or i will not finiesh the mission....And thay say your a dick man..Ya its only 400g jsut give us the crystal..wtf man your and ashole..So my buddy says ok fine then noobs this is the way you treat me the one who is running you for a GREAT price ok...so he takes the crystal and runs to this place weres theres like 50 monsters and stuff puts it in the veary back and leves them.....3 min later he gets a Pm from them sasying hahahahahh we got the crystal..and my buddy says Ok like i care...And one of them said we have screen shots and were going to repot you for scaming!Then my buddy said I didnt scam you i was only doing bussiness...Next day he was kicked from Guild Wars for 164 hours.....Now i think that is BS he was only doing bissness you know thay dont pay he dont complete the mission..PS HE OFFERD TO DO A FUN FOR THE PPL WHO PAYED BUT THEY WERE SPAMING SO MUCH THEY COULDNT READ IT!Well what do you think about all this....

Caleb

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

I think your friend got what he deserved. He took the other party members money (and partial payment from the one nonpaying member) and then did not complete the service he had been paid for.

He did not refund their money, it is a clear case of him accepting and keeping funds for a service he then chose not to provide. It is the exact same thing as if 4 of 5 pay for a Droknar run and then you leave with all the money because you were only partially paid by the last. All he had to do was refund everyone else's money that had paid.

Interesting side note, your first ban is never 168 hours. Apparently your friend has had several of these "incidents".

Get new buddies.

rugal nuker

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

E/Mo

i think he is a real asshole,1.he did not return the other guys money b4 doing that, 2.he is a cheapstate(waste others time because of the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOin 400g),its not because the others did not pay,they did pay,and he did not finsh the mission for them,what an asshole.

Sir Hadies

Sir Hadies

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

W/Mo

OK first like i said he said he would do a another run but they were to busy talking crap also this was his first ban 164 hours witch is 1 week ans thay ban you for how ever long thaey want to maybe sepending on what they did now he did not scam them he was also going to give them a chance to get a run but he was on there ignor list.

Sir Hadies

Sir Hadies

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

W/Mo

they pay complete 4.6k and he is suspost to get 5k and he needs the money ok cuz for 1 he needs armor and its BUSINESS they dont complete the pay he dont complete the mission.

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

He totally deserves the ban from what you've wrote.

what would he have done if someone had err7'd out? just left the run?

rugal nuker

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Hadies
OK first like i said he said he would do a another run but they were to busy talking crap also this was his first ban 164 hours witch is 1 week ans thay ban you for how ever long thaey want to maybe sepending on what they did now he did not scam them he was also going to give them a chance to get a run but he was on there ignor list.
but its only 1 who did not pay,well he did not paid total,so if the guys did not wanted another run,he can always return their money to be fair,maybe that guy who paid 600g cant afford,so,he can always do a good deed by puting the last cystal(that don need much work as he has already reached)instead of being an asshole who ruin the whole mission and others ppl time whom they have paid.

Sir Hadies

Sir Hadies

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

W/Mo

Well i dont see why..

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

Reddit Guild

R/

I can barely understand the first post!

But that your 'friend' should have just finished the mission, then reported the person who wouldn't pay.

That would've been a better ending.

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

He scammed 4 people, i don't know how anyone can see it any other way.

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

Should ban him for good, running missions just makes it harder to find teams if you wanna actually play the game.

Nothin out of place there anyway, he took the cash, didint hand the goods over. scam.

Sir Hadies

Sir Hadies

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

W/Mo

Ok now read this """"HE SAID HE WOLD DO ANOTHER RUN BUT THEY WERE TO BUSY TALKING CRAP SO HE LEFT"""

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Simple, and totally legal way to do this:
Once last guy didn't pay - He refunds the others money and THEN offers them another run and leaves.

Just because they were talking trash doesn't have him some new right to take their mnoey and run.

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Hadies
Ok now read this """"HE SAID HE WOLD DO ANOTHER RUN BUT THEY WERE TO BUSY TALKING CRAP SO HE LEFT"""
that does not matter.
what he should have done was return the money to everyone there who did pay, then run the crystal into a place thats literally impossible to reach, then offer to re-run those who had initially paid, and simply not include the other guy.
OR
finish the run and report the guy who didnt pay all.

but, he took money form 4/5 people, and didnt finish the run, and to "offend" 4 people is a greater crime than to "offend" 1. the punishment fits the case.
if it had been me (and ive been ina similar situation numerous times) i usually just pay for the other guy, and tell him "this ones on me, the next time, you're getting reported."
but if i didnt have the money to pay for the other guy, and the runner refused to complete the run OR give me the money back (not everyone likes wasting thier time on being run twice) i would report the runner. plain and simple, while the other guy had a hand in the situation, you're friend was at greater fault.
its like with driving, if you rear end someone, your fault, but if you rea-r end the guy because he pulled out onto the street with a stop-sign, its his fault. its also your fault for not stoping in time, but the greater responsibility is thiers. and thats how this works. 4,600 gold vs 400 gold...your friend loses.

chosenbygod

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

California

[BC]Black Crescent

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Hadies
Ok now read this """"HE SAID HE WOLD DO ANOTHER RUN BUT THEY WERE TO BUSY TALKING CRAP SO HE LEFT"""
the thing is, he took their money and their time, why waste MORE of their time when he already shouldve finished the mission.

rugal nuker

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Hadies
Ok now read this """"HE SAID HE WOLD DO ANOTHER RUN BUT THEY WERE TO BUSY TALKING CRAP SO HE LEFT"""
HE SHOULD HAVE RETURN THE GUYS THEIR MONEY,HE LITTLE CHEAPSTATE ASSHOLE

rugal nuker

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

E/Mo

And another thing,the price for this run sld be 500g,dont know who is the idiot who rise the price to 1k and many start running for 1k for such a EASY RUN! this is gay.

Sir Hadies

Sir Hadies

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

W/Mo

Well whatever i still think he is not guilty..But whatever..

eom

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/N

yes45

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

Another hookt on fonnix thredd.....

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

This really isn't the place to try to convince others that he didn't scam or whatever. If anything, you can try getting a support ticket at http://support.guildwars.com/. As it is, I think this thread has run its course and people's general opinions have been shown. So to avoid any flames, closed.