There's a collector that gives you a +25 hp axe outside Lion's Arch. Don't know if is fortitute stackable,though.
Stop Buying 55 Health Axe. Stop Being Uninformed
disarm76
chippxero
I checked that collectors weapon that disarm76 displayed and the HP doesn't stack it just over rights the current HP mod.
Racthoh
You're simply taking out the middleman with the amount that you pay, it's the same as paying a runner to get you from point A to point B. You don't want to fight all the way to some place, so you hire some muscle to get you through. Exact same thing in this situation, you have simply paid someone to do all of the work for you.
It would be the same as posting a thread "Stop paying runners, you're allowed to do missions".
55 health axes were advertised then sold, if the skin makes that much of a difference to you... well that's all gold is worth in this game anyway, so you got your money's worth.
It would be the same as posting a thread "Stop paying runners, you're allowed to do missions".
55 health axes were advertised then sold, if the skin makes that much of a difference to you... well that's all gold is worth in this game anyway, so you got your money's worth.
Divinus Stella
I'm gonna go pick one up for my monk, you think that you could shove +20%enchants and 55hp on this? would beat a wand by far, as thats 2 upgrades and 3 bonuses in total if you include the offhand.
Red Sonya
Heh I wonder how long before this item gets nerfed out of the game I better go get some. hehe
unienaule
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I'm gonna go pick one up for my monk, you think that you could shove +20%enchants and 55hp on this? would beat a wand by far, as thats 2 upgrades and 3 bonuses in total if you include the offhand.
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xxhell
thanks alot.. of course i dont got 200k + to spend on it anyway
Marik-Strife
Everybody the real HoD Axe Is the battle axe skin don't buy ANY OTHER SKIN BECAUSE IT ISN'T THE REAL THING!The damage on it is 6-26 it's not any lower it's 6-26!If ya'll got scammed buying the one that's still in the game that sucks for sure.
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Hope this info helps.
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Hope this info helps.
Jetdoc
Excellent job by Now Tumi in finding this axe and being brave enough to attempt to mod it.
Very interesting find to say the least...
Very interesting find to say the least...
Justin_GW
45 Min and 29k later:
2 +54HP Axes
temp
whats wrong with a 55hp axe???
faeth
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Originally Posted by Marik-Strife
Everybody the real HoD Axe Is the battle axe skin don't buy ANY OTHER SKIN BECAUSE IT ISN'T THE REAL THING!The damage on it is like 6-25 it's not any lower it's in the twenties. If ya'll got scammed buying the on that's still in the game that sucks for sure.
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SaintGreg
Thanks for posting this thread - Now when running I can get an extra 25 hp 
Marik-Strife
Here's a picture of what it should look like:
It should look like this with no damage mod enchanted,just +25 health and another health mod if it's the real thing.
Hope this helps.
-Marik.
It should look like this with no damage mod enchanted,just +25 health and another health mod if it's the real thing.
Hope this helps.
-Marik.
Sir Skullcrasher
Word of wisedom....
Scammer is out there with these type of axes.. hell since i'm poor i might craft one or two and sell it for 100k or more. But seriously, in all do respect, there two result for this axe scam. One is A-Net complete nerf this to depths of hell and never again you get a +health mod on a quest item such as these axes. Or two, they can make it so that you can't add any mod on collector items from now on.
Until than, people will be creative enough to sell these so called +55 mod health axe. Until people start reporting it to A-Net or monks or farmers start abusing the hell out of it, than it won't get remove.. period.
Sorry for the double post
I'm am so sick of this lies and craps that people said about 55 health axe.. i urge EVERYONE to post to A-Net about this possible scam or abuse. I myself have done it already.. so do it now and let us burn these crappy axe straight to hell.
Scammer is out there with these type of axes.. hell since i'm poor i might craft one or two and sell it for 100k or more. But seriously, in all do respect, there two result for this axe scam. One is A-Net complete nerf this to depths of hell and never again you get a +health mod on a quest item such as these axes. Or two, they can make it so that you can't add any mod on collector items from now on.
Until than, people will be creative enough to sell these so called +55 mod health axe. Until people start reporting it to A-Net or monks or farmers start abusing the hell out of it, than it won't get remove.. period.
Sorry for the double post
I'm am so sick of this lies and craps that people said about 55 health axe.. i urge EVERYONE to post to A-Net about this possible scam or abuse. I myself have done it already.. so do it now and let us burn these crappy axe straight to hell.
Inde
All right, I just went on a deleting frenzy for this thread. Before I get anymore drama, do a little research and see why (because I've been at this all morning so I'm not asking much). I am not trying to "silence" anyone. If you have any questions or comments PM me please.
Loviatar
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lol, well at least I only paid 10k for my +5 energy always wand
(worst part about it is that I was offered 80k before I knew what it was) |
i have 3 types of +5 energy always wands (7 total)
Sir Skullcrasher
question.. i'm curious
55+ health.. i mean damn that lots of health to be added on you. But why can't it be sold 100k or more? Is there such things as Moraility in a online game? I would think no right, i mean the online world is fake, its not real life. You have to admit +55 health is the best damn combo mod out there. Unless you get a regular weapon and add two health mod on it (althought it will ruin it's value since it might take out a decent mod)
Don't want to start a flame war but.. +55 health mod, should it worth 100k if it's remove or can a regular collector item but sold for that much?
55+ health.. i mean damn that lots of health to be added on you. But why can't it be sold 100k or more? Is there such things as Moraility in a online game? I would think no right, i mean the online world is fake, its not real life. You have to admit +55 health is the best damn combo mod out there. Unless you get a regular weapon and add two health mod on it (althought it will ruin it's value since it might take out a decent mod)
Don't want to start a flame war but.. +55 health mod, should it worth 100k if it's remove or can a regular collector item but sold for that much?
Slade xTekno
There is not problem with an item being sold for an excess of 100k gold. I believe the issue many had was the price came from the withholding of information that would have benefitted the community as a whole.
Think about it.
First, a WTB for HoD Axes was made. Since the axe is something not many people remember, it is pointed out that it has an inherent +25 Health mod that can be stacked with the Fortitude suffix. If you think about it, the chances of anyone have the axe is very slim due to the exceptional popularity of the sword at the same crafter.
Next, a WTB for +30 Axe mods is made.
Finally, a WTS +55 Health Axes thread is made. What does everyone assume? That's right, HoD Axe + max Fortitude mod. But, what is an HoD axe? No one has a clue what it looks like or what it's specs are, but simply that it has a +25 health mod. The authenticity of the Axes is bolstered by the high price.
It's not the price I have an issue with; it's the dishonesty.
Think about it.
First, a WTB for HoD Axes was made. Since the axe is something not many people remember, it is pointed out that it has an inherent +25 Health mod that can be stacked with the Fortitude suffix. If you think about it, the chances of anyone have the axe is very slim due to the exceptional popularity of the sword at the same crafter.
Next, a WTB for +30 Axe mods is made.
Finally, a WTS +55 Health Axes thread is made. What does everyone assume? That's right, HoD Axe + max Fortitude mod. But, what is an HoD axe? No one has a clue what it looks like or what it's specs are, but simply that it has a +25 health mod. The authenticity of the Axes is bolstered by the high price.
It's not the price I have an issue with; it's the dishonesty.
NowTumi
Taking advantage of uninformed people is unethical, it is criminal in real life.
Great knowledge should be used in a proper way instead of hidden from public to make unmoral profit.
Its my point of view on this matter.
Great knowledge should be used in a proper way instead of hidden from public to make unmoral profit.
Its my point of view on this matter.
Rid Dic K
That is the thing I hated, I bought and resold these, and didn't find out what the quest was untill I saw this post today. Now I'm going to stock up on these before they nerf them. I recomend you guys do the same, its going to happen and everyone knows it.
But, I did tell people they wern't the HoD axes.
But, I did tell people they wern't the HoD axes.
Sir Skullcrasher
of course its going to get nerfed, i told people to report it to A-Net now its up to them to setup the patch to remove it for good.
Or the better suggestion (peoples going to hate me for this) is to make ALL collector items to be unmodable. Meaning the mods and stats is what you can get, you can't change it or add to it.
Let see what A-Net decide to do with these collector stuffs.
Or the better suggestion (peoples going to hate me for this) is to make ALL collector items to be unmodable. Meaning the mods and stats is what you can get, you can't change it or add to it.
Let see what A-Net decide to do with these collector stuffs.
Rid Dic K
That would be a good thing, the collector weapons are better then the drops, its kindof stupid! Makes it where people take advantage of having information.
AncientPC
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Taking advantage of uninformed people is unethical, it is criminal in real life.
Great knowledge should be used in a proper way instead of hidden from public to make unmoral profit. Its my point of view on this matter. |
I know players who have sold collector weapons at outrageous prices, but I personally view it as an ethical grey area.
Rid Dic K
I can understand being mad if you said, "This is the HoD axe", and sell it for anything over 50k, it can be called a scam. Those people deserve what they get in the long run. For one, noone will speak highly of them.
NowTumi
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Taking advantage of uniformed people may or may not be unethical, but it is not criminal. It is up to consumer groups and invidual research to protect themselves from scams or abuse.
I know players who have sold collector weapons at outrageous prices, but I personally view it as an ethical grey area. |
Taking advantage of uniformed people is criminal.
That's why laws obligate food companies must put Nutrition Facts on food boxes and drug companies put Drug facts on drugs.
Its also why car companies have to take sold cars back from consumers when they find flaws in their products.
wiz12268
People that have that much plat should have played the game long enough to know the difference.
If you don't know the diference, and do have that much money, you probably got it off Ebay, so whatever.
If you don't know the diference, and do have that much money, you probably got it off Ebay, so whatever.
AncientPC
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Originally Posted by NowTumi
Taking advantage of uniformed people is criminal.
That's why laws obligate food companies must put Nutrition Facts on food boxes and drug companies put Drug facts on drugs. Its also why car companies have to take sold cars back from consumers when they find flaws in their products. |
A baseball card is worth $5 and I sell it to some 10 year old rich kid for $100. I can't be taken to jail for that.
Likewise if I buy your $10,000 car for $5,000 I won't be taken to jail either.
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People that have that much plat should have played the game long enough to know the difference.
If you don't know the diference, and do have that much money, you probably got it off Ebay, so whatever. |
1) Lots of money = long time playing = knowledgeable about everything. Wrong.
2) Lots of money = eBay. Wrong.
NowTumi
[QUOTE=AncientPC]Wrong, there are consumer rights groups that initiate those bills that eventually become those laws.
There are laws already. This is critical.
So you have to inform ppl about what you selling here.
Like a realtor must tell housebuyers everything about the house he/she is selling, must tell every good history and bad history of this house even buyers never asked. Or he/she lose license
I will stop here since its not a legal issue debate forum, PMs welcome
There are laws already. This is critical.
So you have to inform ppl about what you selling here.
Like a realtor must tell housebuyers everything about the house he/she is selling, must tell every good history and bad history of this house even buyers never asked. Or he/she lose license
I will stop here since its not a legal issue debate forum, PMs welcome
temp
so im asuming people are trying to pas off that they have an HoD axe that gave +55 hp whch is now nerfed..and all it really is..is an axe with mods(+25 and +30 health mods?) on it........or is something else on it????
krammit
Hey guys I just bought a 55hp battle pic
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=91237
what's all this commotion about?
ohhh.... Oh.
btw temp, ur avatar FTW
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=91237
what's all this commotion about?
ohhh.... Oh.
btw temp, ur avatar FTW
AncientPC
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Originally Posted by NowTumi
There are laws already.
So you have to inform ppl about what you selling here. Like a realtor must tell housebuyers everything about the house he/she is selling, must tell every good history and bad history of this house even buyers never asked. Or he/she lose license |
A realtor must pass a real estate exam and be licensed. There are laws and regulations in place. Trades on these forums or within GW are not between licensed professionals, they are between person to person and therefore these laws do not apply.
If I sell you a piece of crap baseball card for $100, I am not guilty of any criminal act.
Now replace piece of crap baseball card with HoD imitation axe and $100 with 200k, you have our current dillema.
We are arguing whether or not it is ethical to sell imitation axes for 200k each.
If you need more explanation as to the difference between whether something is ethical and/or legal, please refer to:
http://www.dictionary.com/
http://www.m-w.com/
Apple
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Taking advantage of uniformed people
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Sounds like you're into some scary shit :P
NowTumi
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What a fantastic typo!
Sounds like you're into some scary shit :P |
Knightmayre
Hmmmm... the -50 Grim Cesta from AC still sells for 3-10k, depending on the buyer, and is still available from a quest. Yet selling it for 3-10k does not mean scamming.
Now, the way I see it, someone willing to pay 200k for any axe that ain't even max dmg is out of their gourd.
Now, the way I see it, someone willing to pay 200k for any axe that ain't even max dmg is out of their gourd.
Nefastaru
Well seeing as most of this thread was about me I figured I post something.
For one I had no clue where these axes came from. I had been looking for quite some time for 55 life axes for pvp and someone in my guild got ahold of me and let me know he had a ton of them. I bought them from him for 10 ecto's a piece and decided to sell the leftovers here to help better the other pvpr's in the community.
I knew they were not the Henge Axe and as such never advertised them as such. Every single person who bought one was also informed that they were not the HOD axe and that from what I knew they were a nerf from per-searing. I never had any reason to doubt what my guildee said. As for the screeenshot posted in my thread, that was added by Savio not me , without my permission and I removed when I noticed it sitting there so to anyone who was mislead by that I am sorry.
As far as scamming people, you all know very well that I don;t need to do that, and *IF* I wanted to scam I could ahve gotten some of the best items and or insane ammounts of gold from the trades I moderated so again I say I am no scammer.
To the people who bought axes and want to say I lied/scammed or whatever I say to you the following:
1.) I never said it was a HOD axe.
2.) You saw the item before you bought it
3.)I was just as mis-informed as you and as such am pissed off as well
I know the few people who sent pm's off to the Admins as well as a few others here will be extremely happy to see that I am no longer a Moderator. Congradulations guys you finally won! The forums are in good hands and hopefully you guys don;t make the remaining moderators jobs to hard
~Nef~
For one I had no clue where these axes came from. I had been looking for quite some time for 55 life axes for pvp and someone in my guild got ahold of me and let me know he had a ton of them. I bought them from him for 10 ecto's a piece and decided to sell the leftovers here to help better the other pvpr's in the community.
I knew they were not the Henge Axe and as such never advertised them as such. Every single person who bought one was also informed that they were not the HOD axe and that from what I knew they were a nerf from per-searing. I never had any reason to doubt what my guildee said. As for the screeenshot posted in my thread, that was added by Savio not me , without my permission and I removed when I noticed it sitting there so to anyone who was mislead by that I am sorry.
As far as scamming people, you all know very well that I don;t need to do that, and *IF* I wanted to scam I could ahve gotten some of the best items and or insane ammounts of gold from the trades I moderated so again I say I am no scammer.
To the people who bought axes and want to say I lied/scammed or whatever I say to you the following:
1.) I never said it was a HOD axe.
2.) You saw the item before you bought it
3.)I was just as mis-informed as you and as such am pissed off as well
I know the few people who sent pm's off to the Admins as well as a few others here will be extremely happy to see that I am no longer a Moderator. Congradulations guys you finally won! The forums are in good hands and hopefully you guys don;t make the remaining moderators jobs to hard
~Nef~
Sir Skullcrasher
I don't want to sound like i'm defending Nef for this but...
I said before i say again.... For god sake we have eyes... peoples.. EYES! We look before we trade things is that hard to asked? Are we that lazy of a generation, we just put in the items and golds into the trade windows and hit accept.. if you do that and got scammed, i won't give a damn or pity for you since its your fault for not looking before trade is finished.
Now for this axe situtation
He didn't posted this as a HoD axes (from looking at Nef's sell post) secondly, i see more morons selling this type of axes on different places as HoD axes. Shouldn't those idiots get reported? why are we bashing on nef just because someone found out what this axe is made from? So we're going to blame one person for scammed while others out there is selling this as a HoD axe?
But i have to agree, some people just want certain type of weapons or mods and if they got money to spend they'll do it. So you can't blame them for buying a collector axe with +55 health mod for 200k or more.
*end ranting*
I said before i say again.... For god sake we have eyes... peoples.. EYES! We look before we trade things is that hard to asked? Are we that lazy of a generation, we just put in the items and golds into the trade windows and hit accept.. if you do that and got scammed, i won't give a damn or pity for you since its your fault for not looking before trade is finished.
Now for this axe situtation
He didn't posted this as a HoD axes (from looking at Nef's sell post) secondly, i see more morons selling this type of axes on different places as HoD axes. Shouldn't those idiots get reported? why are we bashing on nef just because someone found out what this axe is made from? So we're going to blame one person for scammed while others out there is selling this as a HoD axe?
But i have to agree, some people just want certain type of weapons or mods and if they got money to spend they'll do it. So you can't blame them for buying a collector axe with +55 health mod for 200k or more.
*end ranting*
Marik-Strife
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Originally Posted by Nefastaru
Well seeing as most of this thread was about me I figured I post something.
For one I had no clue where these axes came from. I had been looking for quite some time for 55 life axes for pvp and someone in my guild got ahold of me and let me know he had a ton of them. I bought them from him for 10 ecto's a piece and decided to sell the leftovers here to help better the other pvpr's in the community. I knew they were not the Henge Axe and as such never advertised them as such. Every single person who bought one was also informed that they were not the HOD axe and that from what I knew they were a nerf from per-searing. I never had any reason to doubt what my guildee said. As for the screeenshot posted in my thread, that was added by Savio not me , without my permission and I removed when I noticed it sitting there so to anyone who was mislead by that I am sorry. As far as scamming people, you all know very well that I don;t need to do that, and *IF* I wanted to scam I could ahve gotten some of the best items and or insane ammounts of gold from the trades I moderated so again I say I am no scammer. To the people who bought axes and want to say I lied/scammed or whatever I say to you the following: 1.) I never said it was a HOD axe. 2.) You saw the item before you bought it 3.)I was just as mis-informed as you and as such am pissed off as well I know the few people who sent pm's off to the Admins as well as a few others here will be extremely happy to see that I am no longer a Moderator. Congradulations guys you finally won! The forums are in good hands and hopefully you guys don;t make the remaining moderators jobs to hard ~Nef~ |
People need to remember this:Money Changes Everything.
Jayfung
I am not entirely clear about this situation with Nef and his guildie. But I can say for sure, that when I bought the axe from Nef, he did NOT inform me it was not the HoD axe (as mentioned above in his post).
Then I was told that his guildie "picked the over-powered stuff up" before the update and that he made a fortune. Again I have no reason to doubt Nef.
In the end, 200k to me is not a lot. And I have not ranted yet, I am just stating the contridictions I see in this so called, "scam".
Then I was told that his guildie "picked the over-powered stuff up" before the update and that he made a fortune. Again I have no reason to doubt Nef.
In the end, 200k to me is not a lot. And I have not ranted yet, I am just stating the contridictions I see in this so called, "scam".
stefan16
If you got alot of them and buying alot of +30 grips, something smelly i'd say, simple as that..