I just don't understand why it is in the game right now.
- You can buy better armor at any of the cities right now.
- It encourages farming to get the armor. Chest armor in Ascalon area requires 5 Leathery Claws which drop from Hydras, but we all know how frequent of a drop that is.
I would suggest a change in the Collector's Armor. Make it +1 - 3 better than the armor in the cities. Or just drop it. I would bet it isn't even used that much in the game.
Other than for the looks, it just doesn't make sense to get it. And yes, right now I am trying to collect the Ascalon Collector's Armor just to see what it takes to get Collector's Armor.
Collector's Armor - What's the point?
Badenstein
Rabid Weasel
Because it's free! That's why. Also i like getting collectors armour for my charecters just so I have some more clothes to go around in. Also there's an area in Ascalon past the Charr Flame corridor that has tons of hydras, so yes they are frequent.
Isn't used?? I see people wearing collectors armour all over the place...
Isn't used?? I see people wearing collectors armour all over the place...
skull
if you got the right collectors item (e.g. Leathery Claws) it is free!
I don't farm, I have finished the game and I am still using 2-items of Collective Armor for my ELEM build and it has the same AL as the 1.5k and 15k Droknars armor and doesn't require any other materials that you have to collect anyway to craft the armor.
Doesn't look too nice but I dont care.
skull
I don't farm, I have finished the game and I am still using 2-items of Collective Armor for my ELEM build and it has the same AL as the 1.5k and 15k Droknars armor and doesn't require any other materials that you have to collect anyway to craft the armor.
Doesn't look too nice but I dont care.
skull
aron searle
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I just don't understand why it is in the game right now.
- You can buy better armor at any of the cities right now. |
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its almost (almost) as good as droks armour and again for free. (again desert armour as an example)
Pevil Lihatuh
it encourages farming far less than 15k armour does. 3 hydra claws are far easier to get than 60k gold + ~350 of two types of material.
Hiryu
It's often cheaper to obtain Collectors' armor by trading with other players for the Collectors' items desired. Said items often sell for 100g each, and are often sold by more casual PvE players.
Plus, a lot of the Collectors' armor looks just plain better than the more expensive ones. Personally, I prefer the look of the Collectors' Female Elementalist Armor to any of the 15k Female Elementalist Armor or even the Fissure Armor, and since it's for a PvE character, I'm not as concerned about the +15 armor boost to a specific element like I would be for a competitive PvP character. I'll be spending more time gawking at my PvE character than I will be with my PvP character where I'm focused more on the intense action than the scenery.
Plus, a lot of the Collectors' armor looks just plain better than the more expensive ones. Personally, I prefer the look of the Collectors' Female Elementalist Armor to any of the 15k Female Elementalist Armor or even the Fissure Armor, and since it's for a PvE character, I'm not as concerned about the +15 armor boost to a specific element like I would be for a competitive PvP character. I'll be spending more time gawking at my PvE character than I will be with my PvP character where I'm focused more on the intense action than the scenery.
Rabid Weasel
The 15k Aeromancer and the Collectors armour look almost the same, well, for the female ele anyway.
Hiryu
Well, they're both transparent, but one looks like an elegant dress, while the other looks like a glamourous-sparkly-skirt thing.
wilebill
I've acquired collector's armor for all my characters. Not that much trouble. Trade for or buy rare needed trade items, pretty easy in the desert. The Crystal Desert ranger armor was so good that all Droknar's could do was add five energy. Mostly, though, for me it is fun to get the collector's armor. What is fun for me might be tedium for others.
2_fingers
Some instances, the collectors item looks better than the 15k version. i.e. Female necro. (*/rant where's that tormentor armour *)
Looks *is* something major to alot of people - i mean if ur going to be staring at ur charac butt for so long, at least looking at something that looks good makes sense.
Looks *is* something major to alot of people - i mean if ur going to be staring at ur charac butt for so long, at least looking at something that looks good makes sense.
SaintGreg
And in some cases they look almost the same. My friend cried when we stood side by side, me with pre-searing collector's monk armor (its the same style as later collectors) him with 15k...
I also did notice that superior vigor's have been sliding back on price. I think you're right having an abundance of items does help make them cheaper, the problem is that for the new people to the game, they don't get dropped as good of items, so they still don't have the gold to benefit.
I also did notice that superior vigor's have been sliding back on price. I think you're right having an abundance of items does help make them cheaper, the problem is that for the new people to the game, they don't get dropped as good of items, so they still don't have the gold to benefit.
Sofonisba
The collectors armor is usually higher level than the stuff you can craft in any particular area. Why spend thousands on materials and crafting when you can spend hundreds instead on the way to Droknar's Forge? Also if you take the trouble to get decent armor, your monk in the ascension missions will thank you instead of cursing you...
fgarvin
Collector's + Necro + Female = Best looking armor in the game.
And for some folks, looks matter more than armor bonuses.
And for some folks, looks matter more than armor bonuses.
Greygon
The Warrior Collector armor is actually very good armor. It is Armor 80 with a +20 against physical I think. I would have never switched to Drok's armor if it weren't for the energy bonus of Glads. In my opinion, the max collector armor is the same quality of protection as Drok's in all classes. There may be some added bonus that comes with Drok's, but in many cases the collector armor is as good or better depending on your style of play or your build.
EagleEye33
its exactly for looks, the whole reason for the 15k armor, yea ther the same specs as droknars but we get it for the different look so that theres not every1 running around with the same crap on, It may or may not look as good as other armors but if it go for it. Its just there to give u something different to do. Giving ppl a nice selection is good, thats all ppl want 
ShotGunBunny
Here's what i did with my most recent char:
I bought the Ascalon City Post-Searing armor set and stuck with that untill the desert (yes, indeed) The desert collecter set is just as good as the Drokky armor and look better IMO(for male warrior, that is)
While that desert collecter set is usefull, the rest isn't, not for me at least, since i don't stay in one area for too long and so i never get all the items together.
I bought the Ascalon City Post-Searing armor set and stuck with that untill the desert (yes, indeed) The desert collecter set is just as good as the Drokky armor and look better IMO(for male warrior, that is)
While that desert collecter set is usefull, the rest isn't, not for me at least, since i don't stay in one area for too long and so i never get all the items together.
Lasher Dragon
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Here's what i did with my most recent char:
I bought the Ascalon City Post-Searing armor set and stuck with that untill the desert (yes, indeed) The desert collecter set is just as good as the Drokky armor and look better IMO(for male warrior, that is) While that desert collecter set is usefull, the rest isn't, not for me at least, since i don't stay in one area for too long and so i never get all the items together. |
ecirbaf
Other than the different armor graphics, the collectors are there mainly to add some incentive to explore the areas.
Face it : with 'instanced' zones, areas are totally empty of ANY sort of interaction whatsoever EXCEPT for the occasional collector, and the NPC's for quests.
Face it : with 'instanced' zones, areas are totally empty of ANY sort of interaction whatsoever EXCEPT for the occasional collector, and the NPC's for quests.
Arcanis the Omnipotent
My main dislike of collectors armor is that it is different armor level than what's available in the area.
Collecting armor anywhere but the desert is pointless, except for newbies who are broke and need better armor as they go. But still, even at that point it is better to sell off the collector items and get money to go toward buying better armor, even from the cheapo guy in Ascalon.
Collector Armor should atleast be the same level as the nearest city until the desert.
Collecting armor anywhere but the desert is pointless, except for newbies who are broke and need better armor as they go. But still, even at that point it is better to sell off the collector items and get money to go toward buying better armor, even from the cheapo guy in Ascalon.
Collector Armor should atleast be the same level as the nearest city until the desert.
hidden_agenda
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My main dislike of collectors armor is that it is different armor level than what's available in the area.
Collecting armor anywhere but the desert is pointless, except for newbies who are broke and need better armor as they go. But still, even at that point it is better to sell off the collector items and get money to go toward buying better armor, even from the cheapo guy in Ascalon. Collector Armor should atleast be the same level as the nearest city until the desert. |
For many professions, the Maguuma Collector armor is only 1-notch below Droknar -- i.e. until you either do the collector in the desert or pass ascension, you will not find better armor. This is why the Maguuma armor is actually fairly good and I see people who want to buy the components for them all the time.
The maguuma armor will also last you a fair lenght of time -- if you think about it -- through both the maguuma jungle and big chunks of the desert.
DeanBB
The collector armor is actually BETTER than what you can buy in some locations (examples use warrior armor):
- Desert (buy 71 collect 80)
- Jungle (buy 59/65 collect 71)
- Beetletun (buy 59 collect 59)
- Lions Arch (buy 50 collect 59)
- Yaks bend (buy 50 collect 47)
- Ascalon (buy 50 collect 41)
So really only the Ascalon collector armor stinks and could use improvement.
[edit] Bah, Hidden beat me to it! I agree with his statement that the jungle armor is well worth the time collecting it, but I'm not known to race through any areas of the game.
- Desert (buy 71 collect 80)
- Jungle (buy 59/65 collect 71)
- Beetletun (buy 59 collect 59)
- Lions Arch (buy 50 collect 59)
- Yaks bend (buy 50 collect 47)
- Ascalon (buy 50 collect 41)
So really only the Ascalon collector armor stinks and could use improvement.
[edit] Bah, Hidden beat me to it! I agree with his statement that the jungle armor is well worth the time collecting it, but I'm not known to race through any areas of the game.
Greygon
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The collector armor is actually BETTER than what you can buy in some locations (examples use warrior armor):
- Desert (buy 71 collect 80) - Jungle (buy 59/65 collect 71) - Beetletun (buy 59 collect 59) - Lions Arch (buy 50 collect 59) - Yaks bend (buy 50 collect 47) - Ascalon (buy 50 collect 41) So really only the Ascalon collector armor stinks and could use improvement. [edit] Bah, Hidden beat me to it! I agree with his statement that the jungle armor is well worth the time collecting it, but I'm not known to race through any areas of the game. |
Guardian of the Light
unless you get a run to drokar's 
Teufel Eldritch
Desert collector armor is just as good as Droknar's armor, & in at least one way better.... it's cheaper.
Red Sonya
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Sereng Amaranth
I recently farmed the materials for an AR21 set for my male necro. He's ugly, but its a nice set to load with superior runes. Now I'm a saccer. 
Why do they make the 2 versions of the necro collector armor the best and the worst?
Why do they make the 2 versions of the necro collector armor the best and the worst?
EF2NYD
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Collector's + Necro + Female = Best looking armor in the game.
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2_fingers
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I got all my characters desert collectors armor, and when my necro came along, what a disappointment that was after getting monk and rangers.
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Many people do like the necro female collector's armour though. (for those who have got no idea how the female nec collector's armour looks like, the search function is ur friend)
Yichi
My first time playing through, my monk and warrior both had desert collectors armor until i could afford better armor once i got things setteled money wise in the game. My monk now still runs around in her presear armor. i forgot to switch it last night and did the first 10 minutes of THK in it.....
DeanBB
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Man, if I was a monk on that mission I'd have told him, "If you're so 1337 that you don't need armor then you obviously don't need any healing from me!"
I wish I'd had the time to see what he was doing, but THK isn't the place for that.
Yichi
for the starting GW player, the collectors are your BEST friend. the armor is easily accessable and cheap, weapons and offhands/shields the same. some of my best weapons have been collector weapons.
Badenstein
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for the starting GW player, the collectors are your BEST friend. the armor is easily accessable
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Yichi
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I disagree on that. The chest armor for Ascalon requires Leathery Claws from Hydra. He is in the same area as Grendich Courthouse. I don't call that easily accessable for the new player.
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Hiryu
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Monica Angelina
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That reminds me! This weekend I did Thunderhead with a PUG and another elementalist went thru the whole mission with just his head piece (fire eye maybe?), shield and *I think* a cane (definitely a "wand" though). No armor. He was asked about it and said he had armor, but never put it on.
Man, if I was a monk on that mission I'd have told him, "If you're so 1337 that you don't need armor then you obviously don't need any healing from me!" I wish I'd had the time to see what he was doing, but THK isn't the place for that. |
Kinetic Armor
Armor of Earth
to a less extent and you should easily have noticed:
Ward against x...
and the best one:
Obsidian Flesh
Of course, if he's a truly good caster, he's letting the tank drawing the aggro focus and is therefore rarely hit at all.
And an earth head piece does look kinda like a Flame Eye if you're not paying attention...
Yichi
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Hehehehe... When I was a monk, I was always extremely bored (PvE monking is cakewalk compared to PvP). So when I played with my Ele, I always went "Leroy Jenkins" with my Pre-searing armor in the Ring of Fire. Good times
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Monica Angelina
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I got all my characters desert collectors armor, and when my necro came along, what a disappointment that was after getting monk and rangers.
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Monica Angelina
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The 15k Aeromancer and the Collectors armour look almost the same, well, for the female ele anyway.
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15k Aeromancer is totally different, even dyed the same color!!
I'd be more than happy to model for you if you like as I like them both and use them both for switching between different builds.
Rhys ap Llysgwr
Beofe I got my fissure, I used the desert colelctors armor for my male ele. Thats is because fissure and coll armor are the only male ele armor that don't look like you're wearing a dress. Fissure armor allowed me to have some stat bonusese besides.
Monica Angelina
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Unless you "cheat" you mean.
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(And why is there always at least one person that does it?) Is it cheating playing it the second or more times around since you already know the location of things and the types of mobs that you will be facing? Is it cheating when you yell out I'll kill you later Rurik and spoil it for others that don't yet know the story line?Being purist the first time around through the game is one thing, anal, yes, and understandable
Wanting to repeat the same pain over and over (you do want to explore other profession, don't you?) is just massochism.