Chris_nin00's Vicious Monk Butt Biter Beast Build
chris_nin00
Hello Ranger Goers!
I now present the Vicious Monk Butt Biter Beast Build!
Profession: Ranger / Anything
Name: Chris_nin00's Vicious Monk Butt Biter Beast Build
Type: General PvP
Category: Damage / Echantment Monk Butt Biter
Attributes:
Beast Mastery - 10 + 3
Expertise - 10 + 3 + 1
Wilderness Survival - 7 + 1
Marksmanship - 9 + 1
Skills Set:
Melandru's Assault
Ferocious Strike {Elite}
Disrupting Lunge / Maiming Strike
Call of Haste
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Troll Unguent / Anything else if you have a healer
Ressurection Signet
Summary: Have you ever wanted to have a pet? A vicious pet? One that you can command to bite a monks butt? Well now you can, with the Vicious Monk Butt Biter Beast Build! What's it for? Basicly its for anyone that wants to give enchantment users what they deserve; a bite in the butt. My warthog, Pikachu, likes to bite monk butts the most. It still does a good amount of damage to anybody, including none echantment users.
Battle Preperations: Name your pet using the /namepet command (Optional). Team arena: Have a healer in your team? Throw out Troll Unguent and Wilderness Survival All together. Put the remaining attribute points in Beast Mastery and/or Marksmanship. Once you're done, get in that arena.
Battle! Run out into the battlefield. Make sure your pet is with you. Choose a target, preferably a monk. Use Call of Haste when ready to attack. When the standoff is over and the battle ensues, use Melandru's Assault, Ferocious Strike, and Disrupting Lunge. Be careful not to hit them all at the same time. Judge when to hit the skill when they attack. Comfort Animal when it needs to be healed. Troll Unguent when you need to be healed. Res Sig when someone is dead.
Notes & Concerns: Ah, the joy of having a pet to call your own feels phenomenal. This build is one of favorite builds next to the Fireslinger. It's easy to run. Some pros and cons will let you decide if this build is right for you.
Pros:
- You have a pet!
- Easy to run
- Deals a good amount of damage to monks
- Can chase runners and take them down. Maybe
- Ranger and pet are usually the last targets
- Good energy management
- Damage Melandru's makes spreads to adjacent foes. The special effects are nice too.
Cons
- Bad Hog! Bad A.I.! Really BIG Con. The reason why people don't do beast mastery in the first place.
- Disrupting Lunge doesn't hit at the right time
- Timing the skills out so that you don't waste a pet attack.
This build is fun. Good luck.
Credit:
Guild Wars Guru Ranger Goers
Guild Wars / Arena Net
PvE Beast Masters
Warthog Lovers
Final Fantasy X
Star Was Episode 4
ME!
Chris_nin00
Edited:
12-18-2005: Added Seal of Quality
I now present the Vicious Monk Butt Biter Beast Build!
Profession: Ranger / Anything
Name: Chris_nin00's Vicious Monk Butt Biter Beast Build
Type: General PvP
Category: Damage / Echantment Monk Butt Biter
Attributes:
Beast Mastery - 10 + 3
Expertise - 10 + 3 + 1
Wilderness Survival - 7 + 1
Marksmanship - 9 + 1
Skills Set:
Melandru's Assault
Ferocious Strike {Elite}
Disrupting Lunge / Maiming Strike
Call of Haste
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Troll Unguent / Anything else if you have a healer
Ressurection Signet
Summary: Have you ever wanted to have a pet? A vicious pet? One that you can command to bite a monks butt? Well now you can, with the Vicious Monk Butt Biter Beast Build! What's it for? Basicly its for anyone that wants to give enchantment users what they deserve; a bite in the butt. My warthog, Pikachu, likes to bite monk butts the most. It still does a good amount of damage to anybody, including none echantment users.
Battle Preperations: Name your pet using the /namepet command (Optional). Team arena: Have a healer in your team? Throw out Troll Unguent and Wilderness Survival All together. Put the remaining attribute points in Beast Mastery and/or Marksmanship. Once you're done, get in that arena.
Battle! Run out into the battlefield. Make sure your pet is with you. Choose a target, preferably a monk. Use Call of Haste when ready to attack. When the standoff is over and the battle ensues, use Melandru's Assault, Ferocious Strike, and Disrupting Lunge. Be careful not to hit them all at the same time. Judge when to hit the skill when they attack. Comfort Animal when it needs to be healed. Troll Unguent when you need to be healed. Res Sig when someone is dead.
Notes & Concerns: Ah, the joy of having a pet to call your own feels phenomenal. This build is one of favorite builds next to the Fireslinger. It's easy to run. Some pros and cons will let you decide if this build is right for you.
Pros:
- You have a pet!
- Easy to run
- Deals a good amount of damage to monks
- Can chase runners and take them down. Maybe
- Ranger and pet are usually the last targets
- Good energy management
- Damage Melandru's makes spreads to adjacent foes. The special effects are nice too.
Cons
- Bad Hog! Bad A.I.! Really BIG Con. The reason why people don't do beast mastery in the first place.
- Disrupting Lunge doesn't hit at the right time
- Timing the skills out so that you don't waste a pet attack.
This build is fun. Good luck.
Credit:
Guild Wars Guru Ranger Goers
Guild Wars / Arena Net
PvE Beast Masters
Warthog Lovers
Final Fantasy X
Star Was Episode 4
ME!
Chris_nin00
Edited:
12-18-2005: Added Seal of Quality
Mercenary662
hmm...but how does this differ from any other kind of beast mastery build?
Kurow
Ive always had my doubts about beast mastery... but i think it could be done really well. Peer reviews?
Ashleigh McMahon
Wow- Chris. You have some excellent build ideas. I wish I had your talent!
Do you find pets usefull in pve, aswell?
Thanks Alot!
Ash.
Do you find pets usefull in pve, aswell?
Thanks Alot!
Ash.
ecirbaf
Questions from a former ahem.. Monk player.. heheh.. if you create a PvP Ranger can you get a pet ?
Can you expand on the problematic pet AI ? So you tell pet to bite monk's butt, and then what happens ? Does it drop its target, run back, what is the problematic aspect ?
As a Prot/Healer monk I only once saw a pet attack me. He wasn't really stressing me much, but I assume the Ranger didn't use the pet for that purpose. I checked out a ranger guide and I was wondering do you want to make a 'ferocious/dire' kind of pet for this ? (might be too much time investment I don't know).
Also, as a Prot/Healer monk I've noticed Rangers can be nasty with interrupts, I would have imagined you do that as well in this build ? Does the pet do any interrupts ?
Can you expand on the problematic pet AI ? So you tell pet to bite monk's butt, and then what happens ? Does it drop its target, run back, what is the problematic aspect ?
As a Prot/Healer monk I only once saw a pet attack me. He wasn't really stressing me much, but I assume the Ranger didn't use the pet for that purpose. I checked out a ranger guide and I was wondering do you want to make a 'ferocious/dire' kind of pet for this ? (might be too much time investment I don't know).
Also, as a Prot/Healer monk I've noticed Rangers can be nasty with interrupts, I would have imagined you do that as well in this build ? Does the pet do any interrupts ?
Ashleigh McMahon
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Originally Posted by ecirbaf
Questions from a former ahem.. Monk player.. heheh.. if you create a PvP Ranger can you get a pet ?
Can you expand on the problematic pet AI ? So you tell pet to bite monk's butt, and then what happens ? Does it drop its target, run back, what is the problematic aspect ?
As a Prot/Healer monk I only once saw a pet attack me. He wasn't really stressing me much, but I assume the Ranger didn't use the pet for that purpose. I checked out a ranger guide and I was wondering do you want to make a 'ferocious/dire' kind of pet for this ? (might be too much time investment I don't know).
Also, as a Prot/Healer monk I've noticed Rangers can be nasty with interrupts, I would have imagined you do that as well in this build ? Does the pet do any interrupts ? Q1: Yes, You automatically get a small sized elder wolf.
Q2:Your pet attacks your target, and your pet will follow your targets, with a short delay.
Q3:A dire pet would work best for this, although it doesn't make much difference.
Q4:Yes- Disrupting Lunge & Bestial Pounce.
Can you expand on the problematic pet AI ? So you tell pet to bite monk's butt, and then what happens ? Does it drop its target, run back, what is the problematic aspect ?
As a Prot/Healer monk I only once saw a pet attack me. He wasn't really stressing me much, but I assume the Ranger didn't use the pet for that purpose. I checked out a ranger guide and I was wondering do you want to make a 'ferocious/dire' kind of pet for this ? (might be too much time investment I don't know).
Also, as a Prot/Healer monk I've noticed Rangers can be nasty with interrupts, I would have imagined you do that as well in this build ? Does the pet do any interrupts ? Q1: Yes, You automatically get a small sized elder wolf.
Q2:Your pet attacks your target, and your pet will follow your targets, with a short delay.
Q3:A dire pet would work best for this, although it doesn't make much difference.
Q4:Yes- Disrupting Lunge & Bestial Pounce.
Jenosavel
Disclaimer: I am an artist and used to the cold, hard truth being thrown in my face. I know its good for me, and I know its good for others. If you're not strong of heart and can't take critique, close your eyes now.
There are so many weak points to this build that I really don't know where to start. I'm not trying to be mean here, so please don't take it that way. I just really see things that I can't keep quiet about, especially not with people raining praise on this build and most likely believing it to me as good as it's being peddled as.
First things first, why take so many points in WS just to have a good Troll Unguent when Troll is the only thing you're using WS for? The idea is to survive longer via Troll Unguent. However, with the points being spent in WS you've now required yourself to use a second Sup. rune to have your other attributes where you want them. Personally, I'd rather have one less Sup. rune than Troll Unguent. That hit to your health can really make a difference.
Secondly, no offense, but Melandru's Assault is a really weak skill. I've played many a PvP build trying to make it work, but unfortunately, you can't fight the math. It simply doesn't compare to other options. The problem with it is, against an enchanted foe it's not too bad, but your foe must be enchanted for this skill to even remotely worth its place. I understand that you're making this build to go after monks, who are greatly likely to have enchantments on them, but the fact that this build is only good for dealing with enchanted foes really weakens it. You'd be much better off switching out Melandru's Assault for Scavenger's Strike to make your build able to deal damage more reliably, especially with 13 expertise you shouldn't be bothered by the additional 2 pips of energy that Scavenger's demands over Melandru's.
Also, the splash damage from Melandru's Assault with almost never hit another person, especially since this build is designed for Competition Arenas and Team Arenas.
For a little fixing (bolded to show the changes):
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Pros:There are so many weak points to this build that I really don't know where to start. I'm not trying to be mean here, so please don't take it that way. I just really see things that I can't keep quiet about, especially not with people raining praise on this build and most likely believing it to me as good as it's being peddled as.
First things first, why take so many points in WS just to have a good Troll Unguent when Troll is the only thing you're using WS for? The idea is to survive longer via Troll Unguent. However, with the points being spent in WS you've now required yourself to use a second Sup. rune to have your other attributes where you want them. Personally, I'd rather have one less Sup. rune than Troll Unguent. That hit to your health can really make a difference.
Secondly, no offense, but Melandru's Assault is a really weak skill. I've played many a PvP build trying to make it work, but unfortunately, you can't fight the math. It simply doesn't compare to other options. The problem with it is, against an enchanted foe it's not too bad, but your foe must be enchanted for this skill to even remotely worth its place. I understand that you're making this build to go after monks, who are greatly likely to have enchantments on them, but the fact that this build is only good for dealing with enchanted foes really weakens it. You'd be much better off switching out Melandru's Assault for Scavenger's Strike to make your build able to deal damage more reliably, especially with 13 expertise you shouldn't be bothered by the additional 2 pips of energy that Scavenger's demands over Melandru's.
Also, the splash damage from Melandru's Assault with almost never hit another person, especially since this build is designed for Competition Arenas and Team Arenas.
For a little fixing (bolded to show the changes):
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- You have a pet!
- Only deals a good amount of damage to monks
- Can chase runners but will only take them down if they're W/Mo's with mending
- Ranger and pet are usually the last targets
- Good energy management like almost any build that uses Ferocious Strike
- Damage Melandru's makes spreads to adjacent foes even though no one ever balls up for you to take advantage of this. The special effects are nice too.
- Disrupting Lunge doesn't hit at the right time, but can be reused so frequently that it really doesn't matter
Cons
- Bad Hog! Bad A.I.! Really BIG Con. The reason why people don't do beast mastery in the first place.
- Two Superior runes are being used just so that we can have Troll Unguent on board It amazes me how people continuously underestimate the disabling power of Disrupting Lunge This is a disabling interrupt that refreshes every two seconds. Your target will never get off a res sig will ever again. Never will his Meteor Shower complete. No hard res he tries has any hope of finishing its casting time. The sheer number of times you can use this skill makes it an incredibly powerhouse of a skill. I have honest disabled 5 skills in a row from one unlucky fellow in a PvP match with Disrupting Lunge. One guess as to who was cursing out my pet in the all channel.
If this were me? I would drop the Wilderness Survival points and the extra Sup. rune. Use the points from WS in Expertise instead. Then I'd put in Whirling Defense in place of Troll Unguent, use Predator's Pounce in place of Melandru's Assault, use Disrupting Lunge over Maiming Strike, and possibly switch out Comfort Animal for Pin Down. But that would make it an entirely different build.
arrowlord
Nothing new, such build was posted n-1 times.
Anyway it sux everywhere exept Random Arenas with newbies.
Anyway it sux everywhere exept Random Arenas with newbies.
chris_nin00
We have the Beast Master himself come inside! Take a seat, take a seat!
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Originally Posted by Jenosavel
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jenosavel Secondly, no offense, but Melandru's Assault is a really weak skill. I've played many a PvP build trying to make it work, but unfortunately, you can't fight the math. It simply doesn't compare to other options. The problem with it is, against an enchanted foe it's not too bad, but your foe must be enchanted for this skill to even remotely worth its place. I understand that you're making this build to go after monks, who are greatly likely to have enchantments on them, but the fact that this build is only good for dealing with enchanted foes really weakens it. You'd be much better off switching out Melandru's Assault for Scavenger's Strike to make your build able to deal damage more reliably, especially with 13 expertise you shouldn't be bothered by the additional 2 pips of energy that Scavenger's demands over Melandru's. The damage is +18 in this build with a 10 second recharge.
It may be a weak skill but Melandru's only requires one slot in your skill bar to work and a foe's enchantment, while Scavenger's relies on two skills, scavenger itself and a condition skill. A Monk may bring a mend ailment skill but a monk that brings enchantments needs enchantments . Remember that its your choice this is a basis build.
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Also, the splash damage from Melandru's Assault with almost never hit another person, especially since this build is designed for Competition Arenas and Team Arenas.
Try Thursdays
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Originally Posted by Jenosavel
It amazes me how people continuously underestimate the disabling power of Disrupting Lunge This is a disabling interrupt that refreshes every two seconds. Your target will never get off a res sig will ever again. Never will his Meteor Shower complete. No hard res he tries has any hope of finishing its casting time. The sheer number of times you can use this skill makes it an incredibly powerhouse of a skill. I have honest disabled 5 skills in a row from one unlucky fellow in a PvP match with Disrupting Lunge.
Recharge time is five seconds. And yes, Disrupting Lunge is a powerful skill. Way better than distracting shot. Just remember to focus your build.
Thanks Beast Master Jenosavel! Any others? Kurow
Mmmmm.... im not convinced this build really does enough good at what its supposed to do.
Wretchman Drake
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Originally Posted by Kurow
Mmmmm.... im not convinced this build really does enough good at what its supposed to do.
same here
moonos
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Originally Posted by Mercenary662
hmm...but how does this differ from any other kind of beast mastery build?
lol it doesnt, it is the same
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