Warriors Kill Stuff Like Whoaa

TopGun

TopGun

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

This may just be me, but I worked a warrior up to a whopping level two, and he is killing stuff WAY faster than ANY of my other Level 2 characters... is it just me, or do these things kill stuff way fast? I have a Necro who I just specced War as a 2nd prof (I've heard the bashing for this strat, don't bug me, my char reminds me of WCIII's Death Knight)... anyway, I find this Warrior to kill stuff WICKED fast, taking a sword and getting an enemy deeply wounded... does this balance out, or do Wars always kill stuff this fast?

KiRi

KiRi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

Grenths Rejects [GR]

warriors are good, but i still prefer my Necro/Warrior. I found that i was able to kill much easier with him then my Warrior

VividDream

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Enjoy it when you meet fleshless bad guys

Soul Monarch

Soul Monarch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the between.

Heros Etc.

Me/N

That's because Warrior's are easier to learn. Not more powerful, just easier.

Once you get really good, you'll see that other classes have benefits as well. Some, like the Mesmer, can be very subtle and dangerous.

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

or when you see an ele taking out 5 mobs while you are only on your 2nd one
or when the mob heal itself like crazy then a mesemer wipe it off the surface of the planet while the warrior are still there whacking away

anyway, different class do different stuffs... what's the best? All of them together.

Ramus

Ramus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Zero Tolerance

W/Mo

Its fine and dandy when you are a warrior taking out one or two at a time but if its more then that you are dead. Whereas an Elementalist can just blow up 5 things at a time while you mope at the respawn.

eventhorizen

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

What I think is funny though is seeing a big bad warrior giving it 'For Great Justice' etc. then rushing towards a mesmer, only to fall down dead after a couple of hits, if he makes it that far of course

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

lol... mesmers... are u talkin bout PC mesmers, or Skeleton Mesmers?

if its skele mesmers, then... well, they cant take out a warrior... at least not mine

besides, ill pwn a PC mesmer with my gold Fiery Dragon Sword of Deathbane...

Soul Monarch

Soul Monarch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the between.

Heros Etc.

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Elyas
lol... mesmers... are u talkin bout PC mesmers, or Skeleton Mesmers?

if its skele mesmers, then... well, they cant take out a warrior... at least not mine

besides, ill pwn a PC mesmer with my gold Fiery Dragon Sword of Deathbane...
Hmmm... you just haven't met the right Mesmer then.

Crito

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2005

down the street and take a left

aG

Me/

Balances really shift from the lower to upper levels. Wars are a great example because they own when lower levels, but not as much in the higher levels. Im a mes so i noticed it in conjure phantasm-its really awesome when your fighting low level enemies, but when im fighting lvl 20's it doesnt cut it. Now i'm not using it at all...so yea.

oh yea Mesmers OWN

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

lol... I probably havent yet... are you a mesmer Monarch? I'll gladly pwn you senseless if you want...


p.s.- I am trying to refrain from using "chat-speak"...

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

My friend is a 20 W/Mo, and he hates the little necro bettles in the Crystal Desert, because he cannot keep up any buffs at all against them, and they slaughter him XD. Of course, that's when my elementalist with AoE come to shine.

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

lol... i dont really use buffs... well, i use endure pain, and "Watch Yourself!", but thats all the buffs i have atm...

Ramus

Ramus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Zero Tolerance

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crito
Balances really shift from the lower to upper levels. Wars are a great example because they own when lower levels, but not as much in the higher levels. Im a mes so i noticed it in conjure phantasm-its really awesome when your fighting low level enemies, but when im fighting lvl 20's it doesnt cut it. Now i'm not using it at all...so yea.

oh yea Mesmers OWN
Don't know what kind of warriors you have played, but I have not been getting any weaker at level 16+

Then again, im not the average cookie cutter warrior/monk, so that may be it.

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

what type of W/Mo are u then? i dont think there is a average "cookie cutter" version anyway... everyone is different... unless you think the same, and build ur character exactly the same... or something...

mostro

mostro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Elyas
lol... mesmers... are u talkin bout PC mesmers, or Skeleton Mesmers?

if its skele mesmers, then... well, they cant take out a warrior... at least not mine

besides, ill pwn a PC mesmer with my gold Fiery Dragon Sword of Deathbane...
Try playing a low level mesmer with conjure phantasm that does -5 hp degen, and see if your warrior can match him That much of HP degen is just deadly at low levels.

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Elyas
lol... mesmers... are u talkin bout PC mesmers, or Skeleton Mesmers?

if its skele mesmers, then... well, they cant take out a warrior... at least not mine

besides, ill pwn a PC mesmer with my gold Fiery Dragon Sword of Deathbane...
I am so looking forward to you meeting a mes/nec who is out to mess with warriors

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

lol, so am i Epinephrine... so am i...

and mostro, my bro plays a mesmer... i dont really like them, but thats just my opinion.. ive seen their damage, and i did more when i was that lvl...

well, i was in Old Ascalon at lvl 4, so yea...

Rellok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Madison, WI

W/Mo

At low levels and in pre-sear especially you are at the mercy of the skills available to you. The sword line is gifted with a combination that is great at low levels, and that many people continue to use to lvl 20. Bleeding is incredibly effective against low hp enemies, and a deep wound is a 20% off sale.

If you judge your character by how fast they kill at level 2, you will misjudge many class combinations just because of the skills available to them.

Matt

Ramus

Ramus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Zero Tolerance

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Elyas
what type of W/Mo are u then? i dont think there is a average "cookie cutter" version anyway... everyone is different... unless you think the same, and build ur character exactly the same... or something...
Yes, there is a cookie cutter. Mostly is a sword/shield build.

Right now at 16 im 10(9 +1) strength, 9 hammer, 4 healing.
I love it. I tank for level 18+ groups all the time.

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

nice... im lvl 15 9 str, 10 sword, 3 smiting, 2 tactics

or, at least i think so... ill check when i get home

i need 1 more swordsmanship...

Valarian of Ascalon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

The bane of all frenzy warriors is Empathy, it just let's you kill yourself if you are not careful, and Pacifism, takes your warrior right out of the game for a bit until you can get rid of the effect. Ward against Melee is no fun either. Many good builds and many excellent counters in this game. Valarian.

femto

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

E/Me is where its at I just switched from fire magic to earth and man-o-man I had no idea what I was missin! that in conjunction with my domination mesmer magic makes for a pretty well rounded build

Soul Monarch

Soul Monarch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the between.

Heros Etc.

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epinephrine
I am so looking forward to you meeting a mes/nec who is out to mess with warriors
I... you mean like me?

Commonly heard quote during Arena matches:
"OFMG - Someone kill the Mesmer!"

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

i had a level 20 Warrior/Mesmer party with me yesterday for the "Althea's Ashes" quest. he was not killing stuff fast at all. it was slow as molasses. and he was only fighting level 6-8 Charr.

i was kind of shocked at just how long it took him to kill stuff. not at all like in Diablo 2, where high level characters kill low level monsters at lightning speed

Ramus

Ramus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Zero Tolerance

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul Monarch
I... you mean like me?

Commonly heard quote during Arena matches:
"OFMG - Someone kill the Mesmer!"
Shouldn't it be SKTM then?

Ephraim Lionheart

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

My L 17 War / Mo was tearing through Charr on my way to get Hundred Blades. Using Balthazars (sp?) Spirit, they were just feeding my adrenaline and energy :P

Valsalis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

In my experiance, my Necro/Mesmer (I like th Necro look better, never putting points in SR) has been every limited by the skills avalable. My endgame build and my current PvP build are totaly diffrent and i'm 18! I can't wait to test out my end game Warrior killer/anti-caster support (backfire/mana drains).
FYI, untill 15 when i left the shiver peaks arena I was able to kill any warrior one on one (loved killing cookie cutter W/Mo's), but if they had Mesmer (backfire on me) or Monk (healing them) support they'd win regularly. I could also quickly kill dumb casters (most of them) with backfire and mana burn, but If the enemy caster didn't cast I couldn't deal enough damage to kill them in a reasonable amount of time.

Jericho

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Elyas
and mostro, my bro plays a mesmer... i dont really like them, but thats just my opinion.. ive seen their damage, and i did more when i was that lvl...
This is probably why a smart mesmer would mop the floor with you. The mesmer class is designed to totally pwninate a single opponent, and someone good at the class can usually keep several locked down at once. If all you're thinking about is straight damage output, you're almost guaranteed to lose.

WraithlordGV

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

This is sad.

HelioTheGreat

HelioTheGreat

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Roman Empire

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W/N

Hey guys I have a W/N I use the Axe but I am not sure how to distribute my points between either blood-death or curses and tactics and strength..:: plEASE HELP!!

THANK YOU

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Synthos

Synthos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Yeah you just wait till the right elementalist comes by and consistantly blinds you and makes it so you only hit 50% of the time, Theeen lets see how much you like warrior

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Synthos
Yeah you just wait till the right elementalist comes by and consistantly blinds you and makes it so you only hit 50% of the time, Theeen lets see how much you like warrior
Or throws so many quick casting AoE's at you while bashing away with a element sword with enchantments present and you watch your health go down like a rocket. Even a proper W/Mo build should think twice about taking on an E/W that uses close combat, regardless of armour class.