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Senator Tom

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

[Dark]

W/

19 Dec 2005 at 23:47 - 1

this is currently untested...i just thought it up while i was supposed to be reading a book

W/Mo x4
R/Mo x1
N/Mo x1
Mo/Me x1
Mo/X x1

W/Mo - Sword Warrior I
Pure Strike
Savage Slash
Flurry
Warriors Endurance
Smite Hex
Symbol of Wrath
Live Vicariously/Mending
Resurection Signet

W/Mo - Sword Warrior II
Frenzy
Sprint
Sever Artery
Gash
Power Attack
Mend Ailment
Live Vicariously/Mending
Resurection Signet

W/Mo - Axe Warrior I
Charge!
Dismember
Disrupting Chop
Watch Yourself!
Shields Up!
Mend Ailment
Mending/Live Vicariously
Resurection Signet

W/Mo - Axe Warrior II
Frenzy
Rush
Eviscerate
Axe Rake
Symbol of Wrath
Smite Hex
Live Vicariously/Mending
Resurection Signet

R/Mo
Symbyosis
Not sure of skills yet, but a beastmaster that smites though the pet probably.

N/Mo
Tainted Flesh
Consume Corpse
Putrid Explosion
Orison of Healing
Dwaynas Kiss
Heal Party
Holy Veil
Resurection Signet

Mo/Me
Standard Bonder (Martyr/Restore Conditions)

Mo/X
Heal monk w/ more condition or hex removal

please comment, what do you guys think? you should be able to figure the jobs of each person by the skills listed

Scrubs Can Die

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

20 Dec 2005 at 01:16 - 2

Is this a joke or are you seriously using one of the worst skills in the entire game on not one, not two, not even three, but four people?

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

20 Dec 2005 at 01:21 - 3

I'd say test it as soon as you can, because holes in the stratagy/setup will become clear.

Senator Tom

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

[Dark]

W/

20 Dec 2005 at 01:36 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrubs Can Die

Is this a joke or are you seriously using one of the worst skills in the entire game on not one, not two, not even three, but four people? since when is mending one of the worst skills in the game? you just cant understand its power

Rico Carridan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Eternal Comrades

E/Mo

20 Dec 2005 at 01:49 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator Tom

since when is mending one of the worst skills in the game? you just cant understand its power Mending is basically useless in all situations except for solo play or running. Basically, the amount of health you regenerate with it is much too high to justify its energy cost. Simply put, 3 pips of regeneration is not going to make a huge difference keeping you alive, but -1 energy degeneration certainly will help keep you dead. I think this build might be far more interesting if you switched all of the mendings to life bonds.

[Edit] Also, enchantment removal is quite common in current metagame, so your mendings may end up working against you.

Rico

Scrubs Can Die

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

20 Dec 2005 at 02:00 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator Tom

since when is mending one of the worst skills in the game? you just cant understand its power Steps to killing this build:
1. Take down Symbiosis
2. Kill the bonder
3. Kill the healer
4. Kill someone
5. Repeat step 4 until team is dead

Mending is great alright, its 100+ damage for Shatter Enchantment.

OrangeArrow

Flame Bait

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mass

Mo/Me

20 Dec 2005 at 02:05 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator Tom

this is currently untested...i just thought it up while i was supposed to be reading a book

W/Mo x4
R/Mo x1
N/Mo x1
Mo/Me x1
Mo/X x1

W/Mo - Sword Warrior I
Hundred Blades
Savage Slash
Flurry
Warriors Endurance
Smite Hex
Symbol of Wrath
Live Vicariously/Mending
Resurection Signet this build will be killer only becauses he seems to have mastered putting two elite skills on one guy

Thock

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Achieving Deficiency [aD]

20 Dec 2005 at 02:07 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator Tom

since when is mending one of the worst skills in the game? you just cant understand its power Yeah...so......I guess I can see how 2-8 health per second is powerful.....you know....because getting more than 2-8dps is really hard to get.....Is it April 1st already?

In the case this isn’t a joke:

Honestly, mending really isn’t that great, especially with the maintain cost. Not to mention the massive amount of enchant removal running around in GvG/Tombs. It has its uses for farming/running, but it does not counter enough damage to warrant taking up one slot on a serious 8-man team build, let alone four. The only way I can see this winning against a serious team, is if they are laughing too hard at you over Vent/TS to concentrate.

E Power

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New York City

Wisdom of the Raven [MyM]

20 Dec 2005 at 02:12 - 9

Flame fest, why do you insist on flaming a build. Maybe he is interested in trying new builds, is that justification for you flaming on how bad mending is. Mending is by far one of the more powerful combo of skills when paired up with healing breeze, 10 pips of degen at all times never hurts anyone nor will it downplay anyone's build. I mean, 8 people with mending is a bit excessive. Exigous skills like mending can be paired up with other skills to become more powerful.

Ignorance is a key thing here, just because a skill alone doesn't work that well, doesn't mean it is complete garbage.

Senator Tom

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

[Dark]

W/

20 Dec 2005 at 03:45 - 10

well guys mending was mainly to get more health from symbyosis, and notice that i had either mending or live vicarioulsy up there, not just mending.
i just put 'mending tombs build' cause i thought it would get more people to look
mending also helps to counter degen
and i was looking for some constructive criticism to help make this build better

reboot

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

20 Dec 2005 at 09:14 - 11

mending is 1337sauce pvp.
you should try arcane echo + mending on your monks it poons!

Nice build, dont listen to the hate.

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

20 Dec 2005 at 09:22 - 12

Mending sucks anywhere outside farming/running.
Also, there are currently far too many enchant removers/Edenial running around to make this build worthwhile. Some of your warriors have some energy attacks, and with the already crappy energy pool of Warriors and only 1 regen, they'll run into a lot of trouble fast.
Also, you seem to have corpse denial somewhat covered, but if the opponent manages to get 1 Well of the Profane up, it's gg for you.

mortalis doleo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

my house

The Cutting Edge [TCE]

N/

20 Dec 2005 at 11:16 - 13

you cant rely on a spirit to win, they are killed REALLY easilly...
i can say though, that this buld might win against IWAY!!!

my suggestion, use 8 w/mo with mending, healing breeze, healing hands and balthasar's spirit for energy management... no need for res, since you wont be dying with those enchantements up.

Dmitri3

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada, almost got to see a polar bear... :P

20 Dec 2005 at 12:03 - 14

Suggestions? Ok, here they are:
- Use succor on casters instead of mending. (warrior 1 and 2)
- Use holy veil on monks as a cover enchant. (warrior 3)
- Use 2 monks... one prot with martyr and one healer with WoH.
- Use battle rage for warrior's elite.
- Swap necro for smiter.
- Swap beast master for trapper.
- Swap warrior 4 for curses necro (I recommend necro) or domination mesmer.

Battle Torn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scotland

W/Mo

20 Dec 2005 at 12:16 - 15

Mending is good if you use a vamp mod as it counters the degen, a shield with -2dm etc while enchanted and it also stacks with healing breeze although many will argue those reasons are not enough to warrant using mending, but I do. epople have bad experiences with mending but some builds work better than others with it.

Dmitri3

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada, almost got to see a polar bear... :P

20 Dec 2005 at 12:33 - 16

I am certain that most of the experienced players will agree that having +1 energy regen and +1 hp regen (and some hex protection for monks) is a lot better that having +3 hp regen (for a caster, that is).

judge1121

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Outlaws Of Ascalon

Mo/

20 Dec 2005 at 13:36 - 17

personally i dont think it would be that good. IWAY would even be better than this. if u haven't looked at tombs either u see IWAY or balance and usually they both do spikes. so any heal regen wont work. and y would u want mending it only kills ur energy and if u get spiked well it wouldnt help a lot would it. and im telling u mending can be easily countered. and if u taking healing breeze where u gonna get the energy from. a warrior should only try to take either 1 healing skill or none.
also ur warriors all depend on energy. they need also a fourth attribute. u have them with swds, str, healing and a fourth attibute (either smiting, protection, tactics) so im not sure u can do dmg but im sure u can tank it for a while. with -1 energy regen how are u gonna do ur soj smite hex mend ailment and all that stuff i u are getting either energy negated or u have to keep casting them cause they are always being put on u. u dont need healing let ur monks heal instead. Instead take a dmg skill. A great defense makes a great offense, but ur monks are the defense. they can minimizes dmg, stop dmg, and heal it off. In other words since u have few of them u dont have a great defense. u just got defense with a lot of health. since u taking so many warriors is better if u have a big offense to have a good defense. this then makes u kill them b4 they kill u.

minor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

In da islands mon

20 Dec 2005 at 13:48 - 18

FYI natures renewal is used alot it will give u major problems besides the other stuff that ppl have mentioned...
However don't get mad at the ppl here making fun go back to the drawing board we all have to learn along the way.

NFiNiTE

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

E/N

20 Dec 2005 at 14:49 - 19

Aside from the Mending flaming posts, a lot of the criticisms on the build are valid. But hey, what build doesn't have a downside? (maybe some more than others... but that's beside the point

)

I'd say, try it for kicks. If it doesn't work out, then... maybe you wasted an hour or two, no biggie. If you win some, then you get to say "J00 g0t pwned by mendingz warrrrrriorzz"

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

20 Dec 2005 at 14:59 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by E Power

Flame fest, why do you insist on flaming a build. Maybe he is interested in trying new builds, is that justification for you flaming on how bad mending is. Mending is by far one of the more powerful combo of skills when paired up with healing breeze, 10 pips of degen at all times never hurts anyone nor will it downplay anyone's build. I mean, 8 people with mending is a bit excessive. Exigous skills like mending can be paired up with other skills to become more powerful.

Ignorance is a key thing here, just because a skill alone doesn't work that well, doesn't mean it is complete garbage. Wow, you are actually trying to suggest mending is good? And yet you apparently have the intelligence to type out a post? Thats astonishing!

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

20 Dec 2005 at 15:02 - 21

This build just screams Shatter Enchantments and do lots of damage to me please.

E Power

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New York City

Wisdom of the Raven [MyM]

20 Dec 2005 at 15:03 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR-

Wow, you are actually trying to suggest mending is good? And yet you apparently have the intelligence to type out a post? Thats astonishing! Did I implie mending is good? No... I didn't, I said once paired up with different skills it is not that bad. Who are you to judge my intelligence, Im concerned why people think mending is such a bad spell... Maybe others like it, is it your decision whether they would like to use it or not? No, it isn't so mind your own buisness; don't flame this post... It was a post for an idea of a new build. There is nothing wrong with build suggestions.

How dare you mock my intelligence when you speak with three sentences trying to put someone's post down.

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

20 Dec 2005 at 15:03 - 23

if henchway is possible...anything is.. 16 in healing.. mending FTW!

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

20 Dec 2005 at 15:08 - 24

We've run TA using 4 Wa/Mo doing mending/Vital Blessing for fun - and flawlessed people. It's actually humourous to charge in and kill folks with an all Wa/Mo party :P

It also proves that sometimes people just can't play. The worst was being recognised by someone who laughed at us, we had to explain that we were just messing around, and having fun... it's a little embarassing to be caught with a mending Wa/Mo otherwise :P

Senator Tom

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

[Dark]

W/

20 Dec 2005 at 16:11 - 25

well thanks everyone for the helpful stuff
and remember, i'm not trying to hold the halls for two hours with this build, i just wanna go out and have some fun, kill some people with a wammo

judge1121

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Outlaws Of Ascalon

Mo/

20 Dec 2005 at 16:45 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epinephrine

We've run TA using 4 Wa/Mo doing mending/Vital Blessing for fun - and flawlessed people. It's actually humourous to charge in and kill folks with an all Wa/Mo party :P

It also proves that sometimes people just can't play. The worst was being recognised by someone who laughed at us, we had to explain that we were just messing around, and having fun... it's a little embarassing to be caught with a mending Wa/Mo otherwise :P well i did as well but that is in TA. also i saw a pic of a tombz team doing a full wa/mo team. the thing is the build that is posted has too much defense and not enough atk. the wa/mo is all balance since they have ok atk and ok def so they overal are all around.

wa/mo are fun, depending on the build u use.