How do u make 60hp Axe???

Xunlai Master

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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I really need answer from some1 who knows wat they are talkin about..

I've already spent over 45 ectos on perfect axe upgrades. ><
I made two with 10/10 furious n 40% enchant by puting 10/10 furious n 2x 20% enchant on scavenger axe..

Then i made one with 55hp, by putting fiery n 30hp on scavenger axe.. then i put another 30hp n it removed previous 30hp n 25hp n gave me 30hp total(instead of 60hp). >< so i lost like 13ectos.

I bought another 10/10 furious n 30hp n made 55hp but i dont want to risk puttin another 30hp on it. unless for 100% im gonna get 60hp instead of 30hp.

How do i make 60hp axe??? i know its gonna get removed but i want to know.


Edit: can someone sell me 60hp axe, thats prob easier..

i just spoke to a person with 57hp(28, 29) axe.. n she said she made 60hp axe b4 by puttin 2x 30hp grip on.. why didnt it work for me?? i didnt put any other hp on just the 2x 30hp.. only thing i put was fiery but that shouldnt make any diff..
i have axe with 55hp, i only put 10/10 first then 30hp.. can i put 30hp n get 60hp or would it become 30hp only again?

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

These axes are being changed/deleted in the next day or 2 don't bother.

Xunlai Master

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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yer i know but im gonna gamble n customize them.. i dont wanna resell em.
already customized the 10/10 40% enchant and 10/10 55hp one.
worst case i still have plenty of ectos n hod swords.

Mrs Maxiemonster was nice n told me i can make 60hp by puttin two diff grips on first (defense, shelter, etc) then use 30hp. so i have to buy another 10/10 n 2x 30hps.. n customize it

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

If you really badly want to lose those axe grips/money (and you will it seems from Gaile's post) I'll gladly take them off your hands for free It's the same effect as this gamble you're planning...

chippxero

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

yeah if you feel the need to waste some money/upgrades? i have free slots.

Xunlai Master

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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well they are already customized.. nothing any1 can do about it.
maybe its a bad habit but i also customize the hod sword i use, perfect fellblades n storm bow.

anyway i just had an idea, can some1 help me with this;
i got the axe n put 10/10 n 30hp n customized it so its got 55hp.. now if i put another 30hp, ill only get 30hp in total.
but wat if i put like defense grip then put another 30hp on? would that give me 60hp??

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

.........
Why are you persistent to waste upgrades?

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Xunlai, it won't. The game overwrites all of the same type of grips on the axe when you try to replace one of them. So putting a grip on an axe with 2 Fortitude grips will erase both Fortitude grips.

NowTumi

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Xunlai , I heard you can only take 2 shots of applying grips. 3rd grip upgrading will overwrite both axe grips to 1. I dont know if its true.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...2&d=1134868430

Xunlai Master

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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lol yer thats wat i want.. i have 615hp with 55hp axe, even in town. more health than 11 monks.

edit:
u were right Maxiemonster.. i used defense grip on 10/10, 55hp axe n its removed 55hp..

so im makin new one now.

but i just met biggest weirdo i've seen in the game.
i said WTB 10/10 Furious n 30hp for Axe.. n xxx asked me are u makin 60hp axe? so i said yes. then he put me in his ignored list n said "Reported".. wtf did i do wrong?? wats wrong with makin 60hp axe??? i met heaps of noobs n scammers in the game, but this guy was the biggest weirdo by far.. is this guy in mission to save the world??? well he is gonna be only one in my ignored list..

edit:
woohoo i got my 60hp axe.. thanks again Maxiemonster.
hehe 620hp in town now.. hopefully they wont change the customized items.. i think thats fair im not gonna try to resell it for more profit.. im keepin it for good, cos i like this game. or atleast let me keep the 60hp axe pls.. i rather keep 60hp axe than 40% enchant axe. i can use hod sword for that. if they remove all, i used 62 ectos for nothing.

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

Of course they'll change the customized one, it doesn't make sense not to.

Xunlai Master

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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Well i hope they'll let us keep the ones with double hp, especially if they are customized.

HOD axe has double hp, n they are still around, aren't they???

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

"All I can say is, do not spend a lot of money or a lot of time trying to get this axe, for it will be gone shortly. And yes, speaking to Mike O'Brien tonight, I believe that "gone" means both newly generated as well as previously generated versions. In other words, this Uber Axe of Doooom will turn into a Nice But Normal-ish Axe in the very near (I'd say within 24-48 hours) future."

~Gaile Gray

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

I don't think that they will allow two grips to placed on the same axe, so I'm pretty sure that to fix this they are going to make the "of fortitude" suffix of this axe a grip. So, you replace the grip, and the bonus +25 HP is gone.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Why waste your money for an extra 5 health. if you need that extra 5 health, youre dead anyway.

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xunlai Master
or atleast let me keep the 60hp axe pls.. i rather keep 60hp axe than 40% enchant axe. i can use hod sword for that. if they remove all, i used 62 ectos for nothing.
The thing is not only this axe is/will be gone completely, Anet can choose to ban the accounts that have the axe. Since if you read the ULA you will find out that this is against it same thing like way back in the day when people exploited the fighting your mirror bug and kept getting XP over and over.
Their accounts got banned.

I would watch out if I was you...

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
The thing is not only this axe is/will be gone completely, Anet can choose to ban the accounts that have the axe. Since if you read the ULA you will find out that this is against it same thing like way back in the day when people exploited the fighting your mirror bug and kept getting XP over and over.
Their accounts got banned.

I would watch out if I was you...
I'd say that atleast half of all PvPers that are rich have the axe, maybe multiples. They'd basically bring their player counts to zip if they deleted that many accounts.

As for how you get 60hp axe, This is how I was told: You have to put garbage grips in first ot repalce the defaults, thne you can add the 30hp ones.

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

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Good time to buy HoD Axes for cheap now isn't it?

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
I'd say that atleast half of all PvPers that are rich have the axe, maybe multiples. They'd basically bring their player counts to zip if they deleted that many accounts.
A lesson to learn for them then, having 2 spellbreaker monks with 40% axes is not fair to others also.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
A lesson to learn for them then, having 2 spellbreaker monks with 40% axes is not fair to others also.
i await the results with anticipa.......tion.

i have 10 (unmodded for free)

the yelling that will ensue

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
i await the results with anticipa.......tion.

i have 10 (unmodded for free)

the yelling that will ensue
I know tell me about it, I just want to see what happens. Would the axes just dissappear from the inventory or what.

The next couple of days are going to be very interesting especially for people who spent tons of ectos on mods.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Luckily I didn't mod any of mine yet. I had 2 Pre-Searing days the last 2 days (finally got to lvl 16! ) so I didn't have time to buy those mods, phew..

SirJackassIII

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

Well, I for one am going to enjoy it. A lot of rich farmers spent a lot on something that would make them even more rich. They've spent a lot of money and Ecto that was just lying in their storage, gathering dust, and now, they can't even get the upgrade partss from the axe
Almost like ANet intended this money sink.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
I know tell me about it, I just want to see what happens. Would the axes just dissappear from the inventory or what.

The next couple of days are going to be very interesting especially for people who spent tons of ectos on mods.
based on the post from Gaile i anticipate that the axe will turn into just what was intended.

a nice axe for that level with the double mod feature removed (along with whatever extra mod is on it.

EDIT

i am baseing my assumption on this part

Quote:
In other words, this Uber Axe of Doooom will turn into a Nice But Normal-ish Axe in the very near (I'd say within 24-48 hours) future.

Xunlai Master

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
The thing is not only this axe is/will be gone completely, Anet can choose to ban the accounts that have the axe. Since if you read the ULA you will find out that this is against it same thing like way back in the day when people exploited the fighting your mirror bug and kept getting XP over and over.
Their accounts got banned.

I would watch out if I was you...
U must be jokin??? wat did i do wrong?? all i did was use the upgrades(which are available in game) to use on the axe which i got from the game. I didn't see anything in game manual sayin u can't use certain upgrades on certain weapons, or u'll get banned. It not like i hack the game n made something that doesnt exist. If they erase my char cos i have this axe i dont think i'll wanna play this game anymore.. i didn't buy gw gold from ebay to get fissure, perfect fellblades, storm bow, shield, etc.

Plus i dont think 60hp axe is big deal.. its not like my warrior is gonna be unstoppable with little extra hp..

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xunlai Master
U must be jokin???

Plus i dont think 60hp axe is big deal.. its not like my warrior is gonna be unstoppable with little extra hp..
actually she is not joking and they have banned accounts for using exploit before.

the last one was the interrupted ascention trick to get the uber exp repeatedly which caused several accounts to be lost.

i dont think that will happen in this case to small time offenders like you.

the +60 is a huge advantage considering people are fighting for every extra individual point they can get .

the HOD sword gives +5 to energy beyond expected and goes for up to and over 250k (250k for 5 points)

i wouldnt worry and i have 10 of them with 2 of the old skin ones besides

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

I got one of these axe with my elementlist (it only got a +25 health with a +20 health grip on it) and i don't see why this can't be kept in game as it is. Look at HoD swords and axes, those thing give you + energy yet it still remain in the game (althought you can't craft it anymore). Removing this axe on anyone who has modded it is a bad idea.

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

Well, personally I think it was a tool ... handed down by Santa Claus himself, to determine who in GW has been naughty and nice ... all of you axe exploiters are getting a lump of coal in your stocking (and i'm not talking the rare crafting material, either!)

Ho ho ho!

The Yoink

The Yoink

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Knights of the Ring

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher
I got one of these axe with my elementlist (it only got a +25 health with a +20 health grip on it) and i don't see why this can't be kept in game as it is. Look at HoD swords and axes, those thing give you + energy yet it still remain in the game (althought you can't craft it anymore). Removing this axe on anyone who has modded it is a bad idea.
putting two hp mods on the axe (though still exploiting a bug) isn't nearly as over-powered as putting on two enchant mods... as everyone has said, it adds a VERY unfair element in PvP (giving those PvP monks w/ the $$ to spend unfair advantages over those who can't afford it) as well as making solo-farming all the easier... and A-net is definately doing the right thing by nerfing it...

it's a glitch, folks, let it go... everyone (whether they're willing to admit it or not) knew the risk of dropping $$$ into a glitched item.. just hope you enjoyed it while it lasted

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher
I got one of these axe with my elementlist (it only got a +25 health with a +20 health grip on it) and i don't see why this can't be kept in game as it is. Look at HoD swords and axes, those thing give you + energy yet it still remain in the game (althought you can't craft it anymore). Removing this axe on anyone who has modded it is a bad idea.
I disagree. Whilst it is unfair that the HoD sword still remains in the game, having an extra five energy isn't the same as being able to keep enchantments up for an indefinite period of time.

Caleb

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

5 energy means absolutely nothing in comparison to 40% longer enchants.

2 MO/Mes can spellbreaker an entire team for 35 seconds in tombs. Arcane mimicry, arcane echo, and echo plus spellbreaker = an entire team being impervious to any spell for 35 seconds at a time.

Add in a 3rd monk to cover the minimal downtime and you have a team completely immune to spellcasters.

How people can compare a sword that was designed to be the way it is, and a broken item that accepts dual suffix modification as an obvious exploit is beyond me.

Look up how many enchantments there are in the game, and then try to convince yourself that 5 energy from a sword made the same impact as double modding enchantment extensions.

Amazing.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Than answer this riddle, how did adding 5 energy to your character improve that much compare to two enchantment mods on this axe or +60 health?

If thats the case, bring my HoD swords and axes since it causing a gold sink and it doesn't do much PvP-wise. I mean 5 energy, you can waste it all in few spells.

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher
Than answer this riddle, how did adding 5 energy to your character improve that much compare to two enchantment mods on this axe or +60 health?
I think what you mean is, what's the point of the HoD sword? Not much, it's just nice to have that extra five energy.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

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W/Mo

Than why did A-Net remove it in the first place? They should bring it back!

jet_striker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada

Protectors

W/Mo

There is a large comparison

Why is the HOD sword being sold for 250K... Bc it is an advantage and bc they nerfed it...
Why is the Rockmolder being sold for 50K+ and soon who knows.... Bc they nerfed it...

ppl that dont have either are at a great disadvantage before they even start the game...

Now we find another weapon that will help us and maybe bring us MAD money like those items did.
The weapons got nerfed bc the Developers messed up... They were a glitch and ppl exploited them.. and still do

This is the same case... They messed up... I have had this weapon for a while... and more in inventory

U have a HOD sword or can afford one, Good For You.
This is my Axe and I dont want it to get nerfed.

U want to delete the Axe, Delete the HOD and Rockmolder
TO MAKE IT BALANCED

twicefeuled

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

I personally don't give a rat's about PVP; all A-net has to do is prevent it from being used in PVP and both sides are happy. If they do decide to pull it, then the Rockmolder and HoD sword should be pulled as well. All of these items can affect the outcome of a PVP battle. It doesn't matter by how much per item, only the fact that it could affect the outcome is relevant. It's the 'I'm just a little bit pregnant' argument. No, you're pregnant, only in this case, it's no, you're bugged.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicefeuled
I It doesn't matter by how much per item, only the fact that it could affect the outcome is relevant. .
if you dont actually see the difference between a few extra points of energy and increasing the power of enchantments by 40% you have a interesting mindset.

the comparison in this case would be

*I JUST FOUND OUT I AM PREGNANT* compared to

* I AM GOING INTO LABOR CALL THE DOCTOR* (it has only been 9.5 months coming)

there is a quality/quantity difference that is that big

jet_striker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada

Protectors

W/Mo

Why was the Rockmolder and HOD removed....... Nerfed
Tell me....

And is there a difference... I agree with you, yes there is a large difference in power

But Compare the HOD sword to any other sword
There is also a large difference in power level

I would love an HOD sword for 100K... not gonna happen
So the game for me is unbalanced and for all the new players.

How do u make the game BALANCED
REMOVE THE WEAPONS U NERFED

Greygon

Greygon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Arkansas

Knights of the Republic (KOTR)

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
The thing is not only this axe is/will be gone completely, Anet can choose to ban the accounts that have the axe. Since if you read the ULA you will find out that this is against it same thing like way back in the day when people exploited the fighting your mirror bug and kept getting XP over and over.
Their accounts got banned.

I would watch out if I was you...
It's against the EULA to put available mods on an available item? If this is true then every time you mod something you are breaking the EULA. That's like saying that it is against the EULA to buy an item that you know to be worth a lot from someone who is spamming "WTS XXXITEM 1k". If you are doing something to circumvent a rule that is one thing, but putting a mod on a weapon is not breaking the EULA in my opinion. It may be an exploit, but it is a known exploit that has been in the game since day one and ANET hasn't done anything to stop it. If they were so worried about it why didn't they fix it earlier. I say SELL THOSE AXES! If ANET wants to change the axes then they should, but the ones that are in circulation should not be changed.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
if you dont actually see the difference between a few extra points of energy and increasing the power of enchantments by 40% you have a interesting mindset.

the comparison in this case would be

*I JUST FOUND OUT I AM PREGNANT* compared to

* I AM GOING INTO LABOR CALL THE DOCTOR* (it has only been 9.5 months coming)

there is a quality/quantity difference that is that big
Actually, you aren't increasing the power of enchantments by 40%. You aren't even increasing the length of the enchants by 40%... You are increasing the enchants by 24% (120% x 20%) It IS a big deal, but lets not make it bigger than it is.