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kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

28 Dec 2005 at 11:17 - 721

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hodor

You can survive 7 Signets Of Judgement for @ 400hp followed by Retribution etc + Imps assorted dmg + Ice Beast doing 60hp now and then? Bullshit

A few Azures at a time, sure, not 7, not solo...

I've survived 5 at a time before, so don't be too quick to raise the BS flag. It's NOT a cakewalk, by any standards. More or less: Heal signet, Desparation Blow, Heal Signet, Heal Signet, Desperation Blow, Heal Signet, Heal Signet, Dolyak Signet, Desparation Blow, ad infinitum. Each one you kill makes it a little less intense. 6 Shadows at once got the better of me, but I'm sure had I been prepared (i.e. full health from the start), I might have survived. I didn't have the Mending from favor either, which makes a huge difference. With Dolyak, Watch Yourself, and Elemental Resistance up, nothing but the Sig of Judgement does any notable damage. Physical attacks, ice attacks, all 0's and 1's and 2's.

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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28 Dec 2005 at 11:19 - 722

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvndoom

The very definition of "mob" implies a group that works together, so you shouldn't be surprised that attacking one monster causes several to come after you. Every troll is part of a larger group. And um, the Ice golems are level 10. You can laugh off the "damage" they do to you. I leave them for last and then go to the bathroom or eat while they attack, just so my adrenaline stays up for the next group.

You speak from a Ranger's perspective, when this run is geared primarily towards Warriors. It had been done by Rangers, and even by Monks, but no other class is going to solo this run as quickly and easily as a Warrior. That's just the truth, and nothing can change it.

Not true...I've seen Ranger/Mez do the run easier then me...read into that as you will.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hodor

You can survive 7 Signets Of Judgement for @ 400hp followed by Retribution etc + Imps assorted dmg + Ice Beast doing 60hp now and then? Bullshit

A few Azures at a time, sure, not 7, not solo...

I'm sure, don't just rush into it and stay there, run in and draw them out...it staggers the damage, since as you run(not with sprint) away some are able to hit you with sigs(usually their first attack) as you run and mobs don't coordinate really once they have started battle. I can give names of people who've watched me...I don't post bullshit. Most of the damage as stated is zero with the shadows being smite, if you are taking damage DON'T attack...it really is easy...sloooooow as hell, with me not attack at all for say 3 rounds as I spam heal sig. Only real annoying thing is the ice beast takes up so much room, so it's hard to manuever, otherwise it might as well not be there it has no effect for me at all.

With the mending blessing I might use heal sig twice in that battle total...just focus on defense...it isn't about doing it fast imo just doing it.

Samueldg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Colorado

N/Mo

28 Dec 2005 at 11:30 - 723

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

The drop rate is adjusted by how many people visit the area. More visits = lowered drops for everyone. This is not just drops for you. The drops are lowered across the board.

I farmed ettins for 3 months and always found at least 1 gold armor every run. Once people caught on to and more farmed there the drops lowered.

If you know a secret farming spots its best just to keep your mouth shut. Either the drops will be lowered or your build will be nerfed.

wheres this info at? cause I know for certain the dessert was farmed heavily before I even began farming and only tapered off for me after id farmed around 20 hours there..

I tend to think drop rate is lowered across the board for all your toons when you farm solo or repeat visit the same area consistantly.

what other people do I dont think effects your drops until you do it as well..

Ive farmed ettins forever and still get decent drops in relation to filling my whole inventory. Its just not as immediate then it used to be. (aka your first run you may score a few purple armors, turn around and go back through and the drops increase a bit and you get a gold etc etc)

there is no place ive found that drops solid golds and purples anymore ( thanks aholnet, nerf more plz increase future sales....)

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

28 Dec 2005 at 12:23 - 724

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samueldg

there is no place ive found that drops solid golds and purples anymore ( thanks aholnet, nerf more plz increase future sales....)

There is one, and I can easily get 10+ golds a day playing casually, but unfortunately the drops almost all consist of the single most undesirable weapon in the game, so they still mostly get sold to the dealer.

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

28 Dec 2005 at 12:24 - 725

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

The drop rate is adjusted by how many people visit the area. More visits = lowered drops for everyone. This is not just drops for you. The drops are lowered across the board.

I farmed ettins for 3 months and always found at least 1 gold armor every run. Once people caught on to and more farmed there the drops lowered.

If you know a secret farming spots its best just to keep your mouth shut. Either the drops will be lowered or your build will be nerfed.

Quoted for common sense

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

28 Dec 2005 at 15:03 - 726

Bliss is having 2 drop in a row...

[Chapelle] I'm RIYOTCH, BIYOTCH!!! [/Chapelle]

badd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Philly

W/Mo

28 Dec 2005 at 16:59 - 727

wow yesterday was a bad day

Sunday:1
Monday: 3
Tuesday: 1

seem to get alot of bad spawns yesterday

gona keep track of # of runs today

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

28 Dec 2005 at 17:13 - 728

oh yeah.. you have 6 IDS but i got 150 Candy Cane.. beat that... BIYOTCH!!!

Zeroo

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

28 Dec 2005 at 17:39 - 729

Wow i geuss i'm so unlucky. I made 15 runs today, 10 were bad spawns and in the other 5 not a single IDS dropped.
I'm starting to lose hope :'(

skitzinoc

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

PoB

E/

28 Dec 2005 at 17:50 - 730

I have made 5 runs to the cave now and not single time have there been ice imps. I'm going to the cave at the upper right hand corner of Mineral Springs. It has a status and some glowing orb things. That is the correct cave right?

There are always Frost titans and Dark Titans. I go through the cave and see the statue, go up a snow covered ramp type thing and ti leads me out of the cave. Then there is an opening to a lake. Is this the correct cave?

Beqxter

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Berkeley, CA

28 Dec 2005 at 17:54 - 731

Abandon your Defend Droknars Forge quest - the imps will never spawn as long as you have that quest active.

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

28 Dec 2005 at 17:55 - 732

Quote:

Originally Posted by skitzinoc

There are always Frost titans and Dark Titans. I go through the cave and see the statue, go up a snow covered ramp type thing and ti leads me out of the cave. Then there is an opening to a lake. Is this the correct cave?

Get rid of the Defend Droknars quest, thats whats causing the problems.

skitzinoc

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

PoB

E/

28 Dec 2005 at 17:58 - 733

Awesome, thank you!!!

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

28 Dec 2005 at 18:01 - 734

a monk can clear the whole thing back to the seer in one swoop.. even the ice beast is doable with blessed sig- not sure if a warrior can do it any faster have'nt tried yet.. but a monk with -60 dp can do the whole cave front to back pretty wrecklessly.. you need the dp to keep your hp < 40 (preferably 10-29)- use offhands and different armors to adjust your hp as you lose the dp back to the seer

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

28 Dec 2005 at 18:26 - 735

Well, I just got my 4th one for today, I'm taking a break for a while, let the rest of you guys deal with that drudgery. Damn, I'm gonna have nightmares about overgrown chickens, imps and shadows...

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

East Coast US

28 Dec 2005 at 18:31 - 736

Hey - big thanks to Racthoh for posting the first build for IDS solo farming. I tweaked it slightly for my taste, but for once, at least until it lasts, I have a way to make a little gold without having to make a huge investment in superior runes for a monk.

I guess the swords will either go away or drop in value after 12/31, but I'll take it, even if temporary. I needed money for capture sigs.

Thank you, thank you - Racthoh.

Loralai

Purveyor of Useless Info

Join Date: Oct 2005

Perpetual Motion Squad [PMS]

Mo/

28 Dec 2005 at 18:47 - 737

Quote:

Originally Posted by badd

wow yesterday was a bad day

Sunday:1
Monday: 3
Tuesday: 1

seem to get alot of bad spawns yesterday

gona keep track of # of runs today

Hmp...at least you get one. I would consider that a good day.

Woutsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

28 Dec 2005 at 19:40 - 738

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reks

More character slots ftw.

is that for chapter 1 or 2?

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

28 Dec 2005 at 19:43 - 739

I agree. I've given up trying to get one on my Mesmer and am just leveling up my warrior now so I can use him to do solo runs. Unless it turns out that IDSs actually ARE only for the Wintersday duration, in which case I'll be fricking pissed.

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

28 Dec 2005 at 23:14 - 740

I love how all the newbies in GC are asking "Does IDS still drop?!" and you get the farmers who tell them that it stopped dropping or only drops when the Americans (in my case) have favor.

It's pretty fun to solo though. I managed to race through pretty quick. I just hate the bad spawns. :/

xcrafter2

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hands Of The Devil

W/Mo

29 Dec 2005 at 01:47 - 741

every1 keeps saying it cant be blue it cant be blue it shuld be gold or this or that... collectors here and there... isn't there a sword pommel or blade that can have that? i dont really care all that much bcuz im not a pro at this game but i think there is a pommel/blade no?

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

29 Dec 2005 at 03:35 - 742

agh... 20 runs and i havent even seen an ids drop (4man)

badd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Philly

W/Mo

29 Dec 2005 at 04:25 - 743

bah update:
5runs today no ids. gona go for 5 more b4 i sleep zzz

Kaiser

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Philippines

House Of Ancient Dragons [WYRM]

W/Mo

29 Dec 2005 at 05:18 - 744

Can a solod IDS farming be done with a W/Mo class? If so can you guys tell me what skills I should be using?

Ellix Cantero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

29 Dec 2005 at 07:37 - 745

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiser

Can a solod IDS farming be done with a W/Mo class? If so can you guys tell me what skills I should be using?

You really don't need mending to stay alive. Do the mesmer secondary quest and purchase elemental resistance.

A friend of mine tried to convince me he could handle it as a wa/mo, so I took him along a few times--he hasn't survived the entire cave once. He did manage to get a sword and was quite handy dealing with a couple of horrible spawns (we took out two full groups of avrica that spawned at the mouth of the cave with about 16 imps).

badd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Philly

W/Mo

29 Dec 2005 at 07:49 - 746

stick to w/me
update: finally got 1 for today off to bed.
total 5 6 runs today , outcome 1

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

East Coast US

29 Dec 2005 at 14:46 - 747

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

The drop rate is adjusted by how many people visit the area. More visits = lowered drops for everyone. This is not just drops for you. The drops are lowered across the board.

I farmed ettins for 3 months and always found at least 1 gold armor every run. Once people caught on to and more farmed there the drops lowered.

If you know a secret farming spots its best just to keep your mouth shut. Either the drops will be lowered or your build will be nerfed.

I just tested this theory, and I don't think your drop rate is affected by how many others are also doing the run. I did three runs last night, with five districts at the citadel - got no swords.

Did two runs early this morning, with just two districts - still no sword.

Granted, in an ideal world I would have tried to do ten runs each time so I'd have a larger sample size, but it's not like the swords suddenly started dropping when I did runs at a different time.

I've gotten two swords, so this wasn't intended to be a complaint - just an observation.

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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29 Dec 2005 at 14:58 - 748

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevilStick

I just tested this theory, and I don't think your drop rate is affected by how many others are also doing the run. I did three runs last night, with five districts at the citadel - got no swords.

Did two runs early this morning, with just two districts - still no sword.

Granted, in an ideal world I would have tried to do ten runs each time so I'd have a larger sample size, but it's not like the swords suddenly started dropping when I did runs at a different time.

I've gotten two swords, so this wasn't intended to be a complaint - just an observation.

You assume too few variables...I'm pretty sure the "cool down" rate is not instantanious...people would have to not farm the area for a while.

Ellix Cantero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

29 Dec 2005 at 15:10 - 749

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic Smile

You assume too few variables...I'm pretty sure the "cool down" rate is not instantanious...people would have to not farm the area for a while.

I'm thinking it has more to do with how much time that character has spent in the area recently. I seem a lot more likely to get an IDS if I go farm for candy canes for an hour or two before a run.

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

29 Dec 2005 at 15:42 - 750

Quote:

Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher

oh yeah.. you have 6 IDS but i got 150 Candy Cane.. beat that... BIYOTCH!!!

i have right at 2000 candy canes

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

East Coast US

29 Dec 2005 at 15:42 - 751

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic Smile

You assume too few variables...I'm pretty sure the "cool down" rate is not instantanious...people would have to not farm the area for a while.

It had the whole night to "cool down" - my last two runs were early in the morning. The citadel won't cool down any more unless the swords go away and people completely stop going after them.

I think I agree with Ellix right now - I think it's more affected by the time your character has spent there. Time to go farm candy canes somewhere for a while....

Theos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

River Dancing

Eternal Treachery [TimE]

Me/E

29 Dec 2005 at 15:51 - 752

See it doesn't matter how little you personally farm it, even when you're not on people are mapping into Tasca's Demise and running off to farm. The cooldown never even gets a chance to occur.

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

29 Dec 2005 at 15:54 - 753

Anyone else noticed the slight increase in Sword 20% Enchantment pommels? they seem to be around 60-65k now were as a week ago i saw some going for 40-45k tops.

I'm assuming it's the IW players with the IDS.

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

East Coast US

29 Dec 2005 at 15:55 - 754

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theos

See it doesn't matter how little you personally farm it, even when you're not on people are mapping into Tasca's Demise and running off to farm. The cooldown never even gets a chance to occur.

Since I'm on the East Coast, there's a period of time where the farming is primarily of the European and Korean servers. The morning my time is as "cool" as it will get on the American servers unless the swords go completely away.

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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29 Dec 2005 at 16:14 - 755

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevilStick

It had the whole night to "cool down" - my last two runs were early in the morning. The citadel won't cool down any more unless the swords go away and people completely stop going after them.

I think I agree with Ellix right now - I think it's more affected by the time your character has spent there. Time to go farm candy canes somewhere for a while....

I'm just guessing but somehow I doubt the cool down time would be minutes or hours...try days.

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

29 Dec 2005 at 16:15 - 756

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistressYichi

i have right at 2000 candy canes

do they stack on top of each other , HOW WOULD U FIT THEM OTHERWISE!

AxeMe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Atlanta

HEX

W/

29 Dec 2005 at 16:17 - 757

Quote:

Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

do they stack on top of each other , HOW WOULD U FIT THEM OTHERWISE!

250 fit in one inventory slot. 8 slots hold 2000.

badd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Philly

W/Mo

29 Dec 2005 at 16:34 - 758

he was joking...

Beqxter

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Berkeley, CA

29 Dec 2005 at 18:57 - 759

Quote:

Originally Posted by chippxero

Anyone else noticed the slight increase in Sword 20% Enchantment pommels? they seem to be around 60-65k now were as a week ago i saw some going for 40-45k tops.

I'm assuming it's the IW players with the IDS.

What a terrible IW weapon - nothing screams "IW" more than a mesmer bearing a huge glowing blue sword - and since stats mean nothing when you're running IW, I'd think you'd want the smallest, cheapest most inconspicuous sword you could find...

I suspect it's all the Wamo's who want to make their mending last longer.

chippxero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

Mo/Me

29 Dec 2005 at 20:02 - 760

A mesmer with any melee weapon is going to stand out as a IW, i'm guessing they would be chancing the 'look cool' factor. I haven't seen it of course as i don't play PvP but it just seemed to be lately that the price and increased a bit and it's the only reason i could think of.