Seriously, judging from the threads in this forum, it seems loot is all it's about.
Or is it just that Guildwars runs so smooth there nothing else to discuss than how to farm, where to farm, how every single update affects farming, whether farming should be nerfed, if farming will be nerfed, if farming HAS been nerfed, if ANet is teh suck for nerfing farming, which items are rarest, the price of items, the look of items, which items are the most uber, how not to get scammed when running to get loot, if one should run to get loot, and "OMG how noob are YOU that you have THAT item?!"
Did GW turn in to an economy simulator where he who has the most gold, the rarest greens, and the most ecto in storage, wins?
What the heck happened?
This game is not about loot?
Numa Pompilius
aron searle
I can only speak for myselft but....
Ive played the game, ive done all the missions (several times, and still help guildees out alot), now im done with them i farm for items. I dont like PVP so its all thats left for me to do.
(not complaining i enjoy 5 man green farming/fow teams, solo farming and exploration ect).
And this will remain so untill i get bored of it (hahaha as if), or they introduce some new content to play.
I can only guess that farming is all some people talk about, as thats all that they do now.
Ive played the game, ive done all the missions (several times, and still help guildees out alot), now im done with them i farm for items. I dont like PVP so its all thats left for me to do.
(not complaining i enjoy 5 man green farming/fow teams, solo farming and exploration ect).
And this will remain so untill i get bored of it (hahaha as if), or they introduce some new content to play.
I can only guess that farming is all some people talk about, as thats all that they do now.
Turbo Wombat
After you unlock all the items & skills, do all the quests and explore all the areas, what else is there to do?
Tsunami Rain
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kvndoom
This quote says it best:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=151
For some of us, that's how we enjoy the game now. I have a lot of in-game currency (relative to most), but it's just a by-product of mindless killing to pass time.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=151
For some of us, that's how we enjoy the game now. I have a lot of in-game currency (relative to most), but it's just a by-product of mindless killing to pass time.
neoteo
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this game is really about skills , and faction is the short cut impov ...
i almost went to the dark side and unlocked some skills with faction , but then in pve , not being able to use them was anoying so i went back to skill caping and changing second profession , untill i have it all ... i think when im done with it , second chapter will be out , cose i dont have that much time to play.
aron searle
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did you unlock all skills for all you pve chars changing second profession , or with faction ?
this game is really about skills , and faction is the short cut impov ... i almost went to the dark side and unlocked some skills with faction , but then in pve , not being able to use them , i went back to skill caping and changing second profession , untill i have it all ... i think when im done with it , second chapter will be out , cose i dont have that much time to play. |
Turbo Wombat
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dance
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Seriously though, that is the whitest dance I have ever seen...
And I'm as white as they come.
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did you unlock all skills for all your pve chars changing second profession , or with faction ?
this game is really about skills , and faction is the short cut impov ... i almost went to the dark side and unlocked some skills with faction , but then in pve , not being able to use them was anoying so i went back to skill caping and changing second profession , untill i have it all ... i think when im done with it , second chapter will be out , cose i dont have that much time to play. |
neoteo
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But you can't kill stuff while dancing... Unless you are a male ele. Those homies are just too funky for their own good
Seriously though, that is the whitest dance I have ever seen... And I'm as white as they come. |
coolsti
After playing through the game with all its missions and quests a number of times with different characters, there certainly is no reason to discuss details about the PVE part of the game itself. Any new posts concerning the difficulties or needed strategies to beat a mission like Thunderkeep will just be met with "do a search, its been posted before".
So, uh, what else is there to talk about? For most people at this stage in this part of the forum, the only thing keeping them playing GW is the farming.
But there is another interesting topic, and there are a few threads about it, and that is the human factor of GW. Here I am talking about the "biggest jerk" thread and the related threads. For me, the human interaction side is the most rewarding, both the good and sometimes the bad experiences.
So, uh, what else is there to talk about? For most people at this stage in this part of the forum, the only thing keeping them playing GW is the farming.
But there is another interesting topic, and there are a few threads about it, and that is the human factor of GW. Here I am talking about the "biggest jerk" thread and the related threads. For me, the human interaction side is the most rewarding, both the good and sometimes the bad experiences.
Tsunami Rain
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After playing through the game with all its missions and quests a number of times with different characters, there certainly is no reason to discuss details about the PVE part of the game itself. Any new posts concerning the difficulties or needed strategies to beat a mission like Thunderkeep will just be met with "do a search, its been posted before".
So, uh, what else is there to talk about? For most people at this stage in this part of the forum, the only thing keeping them playing GW is the farming. But there is another interesting topic, and there are a few threads about it, and that is the human factor of GW. Here I am talking about the "biggest jerk" thread and the related threads. For me, the human interaction side is the most rewarding, both the good and sometimes the bad experiences. |
guess we're in the christmas spirit already
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The two things I haven't done is complete all the UW quests in one run and the Final Assualt mission in SF. Not for lack of trying, but no one is interested. All they want to do is farm smites in UW and Greens in SF.
A questor can't get an legitimate party for these two areas.
Its crazy to map into these zones and hundreds of people are in ToA and War Camp only to farm, havent completed the quests and could care less about them. Many don't even complete the storyline and are only there to farm they are not just killing time between chapters. They brought the game to farm, they get ran to a farming location and camp there for the duration. They don't care about quests or skills or XP only items and loot. I think the OP is asking where did these people come from (some other loot driven game?)and what is driving this mentality?
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ocoini
Eh, ye.. you guys are still playing this game?
shame shame...
Look its snowing!
shame shame...
Look its snowing!
AxeMe
At the risk of sounding like too much of a GW fan, I enjoy the diversity of the game. So - sure - acquiring hard-to-get items is part of the enjoyment for me. And since my FOW armor and nice axe can easily be duplicated - as far as effectiveness - with something a lot cheaper, it seems harmless. It gives me something to do after finishing the game with several characters.
That's my big surprise. I'm still playing after 7 months and enjoying it. I keep waiting for the clock to run out.
But lately I've been spending more time with PvP and enjoying that too. So, much to my wife's regret, I'm still spending a lot of time in the game.
And each new item (hey I need one of those Icy Dragon Swords and will head to Mineral Springs when I get home today) adds to the fun.
That's my big surprise. I'm still playing after 7 months and enjoying it. I keep waiting for the clock to run out.
But lately I've been spending more time with PvP and enjoying that too. So, much to my wife's regret, I'm still spending a lot of time in the game.
And each new item (hey I need one of those Icy Dragon Swords and will head to Mineral Springs when I get home today) adds to the fun.
Hell Marauder
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Did GW turn in to an economy simulator where he who has the most gold, the rarest greens, and the most ecto in storage, wins?
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Kakumei
People misunderstand exactly what kind of game Guild Wars is.
It is not an MMO.
As such, it is not to be treated like an MMO. You are not supposed to play it sixteen hours a day for five months straight. GW is not World of Warcraft.
The game is more suited a conservative playing style. Don't play it constantly. Play it every now and then, pick it up when you feel like it. If you play it all the time, you will get sick of it. It's how it is.
I'm content to set the game aside and patiently wait for Chapter 2 (which I will certainly be buying the day it is released) and play other games in the meantime. Of course, when the mood strikes me, I log on and do whatever I feel like doing. I still find enjoyment with certain aspects of PVE.
It is not an MMO.
As such, it is not to be treated like an MMO. You are not supposed to play it sixteen hours a day for five months straight. GW is not World of Warcraft.
The game is more suited a conservative playing style. Don't play it constantly. Play it every now and then, pick it up when you feel like it. If you play it all the time, you will get sick of it. It's how it is.
I'm content to set the game aside and patiently wait for Chapter 2 (which I will certainly be buying the day it is released) and play other games in the meantime. Of course, when the mood strikes me, I log on and do whatever I feel like doing. I still find enjoyment with certain aspects of PVE.
Pandora's box
I think the real item hunters (those who actually want to use items rather than skills to improve their chr) all left after the summer. What you see now, well I don't know why they are so exited about some low level stuff. Take this perfect dragon sword thread. Is'nt that hillarious? You will hardly notice any difference with 15% extra dmg when hexed, or whatever. Perhaps if the dmg was doubled it would sort some noticable effect. I guess its more about finding the best possible, rather than the usage. And there's nothing else to do...
Loviatar
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The game is more suited a conservative playing style. Don't play it constantly. Play it every now and then, pick it up when you feel like it. If you play it all the time, you will get sick of it. It's how it is. I'm content to set the game aside and patiently wait for Chapter 2 (which I will certainly be buying the day it is released) and play other games in the meantime. Of course, when the mood strikes me, I log on and do whatever I feel like doing. I still find enjoyment with certain aspects of PVE. |
and i read a good bookgarden
talk with friends (real not internet)
play another game
that is when i have time for games.
my cat wanting to play takes precidence there.
will get OBLIVION if it ever comes out
and chapter 2 guaranteed
IT IS A GAME PEOPLE.
PUT IT ON THE SHELF IF YOU FIND THAT YOU ARE FORCING YOURSELF TO PLAY
ryguy
The developers need to spend some time developing the game INSTEAD of nerfing it to bits and bits:
When we get disconnected and reconnect (especially when in Thunderhead), you start all over again and lose your group. That is a waste of time and needs to be looked at before ANY nerfs or updates go into effect.
We still can't link items in trade channel.
New weapons and quests. Green items tied people over for a month.
The unrealistic nature of the game. Yea the graphics are lovely. But in this huge world we have to explore, we don't see anything except for enemies and the people we are grouped with. That whole 'instanced world system' needs to go.
Expand storage. I have two accounts and all 6 toons are nearly full.
1 on 1 dueling. You can aruge the unbalances but there is always a way on EACH class to dispel or stop a particular build. 1 on 1 is useful for those nubs whom won't shut up. So you simply go over and ask for a duel and see if they can walk the walk.
When we get disconnected and reconnect (especially when in Thunderhead), you start all over again and lose your group. That is a waste of time and needs to be looked at before ANY nerfs or updates go into effect.
We still can't link items in trade channel.
New weapons and quests. Green items tied people over for a month.
The unrealistic nature of the game. Yea the graphics are lovely. But in this huge world we have to explore, we don't see anything except for enemies and the people we are grouped with. That whole 'instanced world system' needs to go.
Expand storage. I have two accounts and all 6 toons are nearly full.
1 on 1 dueling. You can aruge the unbalances but there is always a way on EACH class to dispel or stop a particular build. 1 on 1 is useful for those nubs whom won't shut up. So you simply go over and ask for a duel and see if they can walk the walk.
Age
No this game isn't about Loot unless you just PvP and don't have to think of 15 K armor or those expensive runes and materials on the flipside in PvE it definetly about loot and I don't have a lot of it.
Jetdoc
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Former Ruling
And one reason it is free.
People think they came up with instances as a new concept - Well maybe - but its also why we can have GW free - Servers that could support showing the thousands of players online all the time would cost more...
Thats actually why you pay for MMO's - for use of their Server space - not for your character.
People think they came up with instances as a new concept - Well maybe - but its also why we can have GW free - Servers that could support showing the thousands of players online all the time would cost more...
Thats actually why you pay for MMO's - for use of their Server space - not for your character.
Crotalus
This game was advertised as a game more about skill than items or time. Unfortunately, it has turned out this was a lie. This game is all about loot and time spent.
I think that should read 'The developers need to spend some time fixing the game INSTEAD or adding reskins of weapons or hosting a Christmas/Holiday event'. These are all diversions away from the problems.
Currently, one can take Drok's armor and elites in to the low level arena. Just do a search on this forum and you will see why this is bad.
After finishing the game and doing the Sorrow's Furnace quests, i still need to grind out some skill points. Either through faction or XP. I believe as many others that one should have all skills for those two classses unlocked at the completion of the game. No, I dont want UAS but i don't want to grind out the last few skill points. A quest for each non-elite skills or being liberal with the skill points would be helpful. I still need to farm faction to unlock my items/runes.
As we saw this past week, some items are broke or are still broke. Skills are about the only thing not broke and that isn't saying too much compared to the things it is held against.
Can Arenanet fix these? Yes. They just need to focus on getting the little things fixed first and then worry about a Christmas/Holiday event.
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Currently, one can take Drok's armor and elites in to the low level arena. Just do a search on this forum and you will see why this is bad.
After finishing the game and doing the Sorrow's Furnace quests, i still need to grind out some skill points. Either through faction or XP. I believe as many others that one should have all skills for those two classses unlocked at the completion of the game. No, I dont want UAS but i don't want to grind out the last few skill points. A quest for each non-elite skills or being liberal with the skill points would be helpful. I still need to farm faction to unlock my items/runes.
As we saw this past week, some items are broke or are still broke. Skills are about the only thing not broke and that isn't saying too much compared to the things it is held against.
Can Arenanet fix these? Yes. They just need to focus on getting the little things fixed first and then worry about a Christmas/Holiday event.
/rant
Loviatar
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I think that should read 'The developers need to spend some time fixing the game INSTEAD or adding reskins of weapons or hosting a Christmas/Holiday event'. These are all diversions away from the problems. , i still need to grind out some skill points. Either through faction or XP. . Can Arenanet fix these? Yes. They just need to focus on getting the little things fixed first and then worry about a Christmas/Holiday event. /rant |
/INVALID RANTyou are having fun doing your pvp thing not grinding.
as for the little fun events most people will have fun.
if it grinds your gears to see them avoid the areas where they are.
ryguy
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*i dont like it so start over*
go play wow and get ganked for fun
Ultimate_Gaara
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Ive managed to beat the game twice without farming or buying expencive armor or items. Infact when i beat the game i was still wearing LA armor...
While items are nice they are not the main focus of the game, when i feel like finding a rad item i normaly play d2
Caged Fury
To some people, this game is about loot and to others it isn't.
I'm too busy with working my way through the PvE story and enjoying it. Farming for rare, fantastic items or to make loads of gold isn't the reason why or how I play GW.
The story itself is quite linear, it's pretty easy to follow. And if I need to know something about PvE, it's more-than-likely, it can be found with a simple search on this site - so there isn't very much for me to ask or discuss.
If people enjoy and want to farm for rare items, and to make money then that's up to them. What they do don't really affect my progress through the story. The only thing that does get on my nerves is the constant spamming of Local chat channel by people with loads of things to sell or wanting to buy things. Asking them to use the Trade channel is a waste of time as they're too busy spamming their wares, or too selfish to notice such request. Switching off Local chat is a possible way for me to avoid the trade spams, but that would mean missing out on some decent non-trade talk.
In-game, if loot is your only objective in GW then please have some consideration for those who have a different aim. Use the Trade channel, it's what it's there for.
I'm too busy with working my way through the PvE story and enjoying it. Farming for rare, fantastic items or to make loads of gold isn't the reason why or how I play GW.
The story itself is quite linear, it's pretty easy to follow. And if I need to know something about PvE, it's more-than-likely, it can be found with a simple search on this site - so there isn't very much for me to ask or discuss.
If people enjoy and want to farm for rare items, and to make money then that's up to them. What they do don't really affect my progress through the story. The only thing that does get on my nerves is the constant spamming of Local chat channel by people with loads of things to sell or wanting to buy things. Asking them to use the Trade channel is a waste of time as they're too busy spamming their wares, or too selfish to notice such request. Switching off Local chat is a possible way for me to avoid the trade spams, but that would mean missing out on some decent non-trade talk.
In-game, if loot is your only objective in GW then please have some consideration for those who have a different aim. Use the Trade channel, it's what it's there for.
Shadowspawn X
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LuLu
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cash > items
ghostlyranger
anet had do their job well,
some ppl enjoy looting the best shit outthere, some ppl enjoy pvp.
if one feel unconfortable just becoz other ppl like to farm, then i think he/she need to learn how to "enjoy" a game.
some ppl enjoy looting the best shit outthere, some ppl enjoy pvp.
if one feel unconfortable just becoz other ppl like to farm, then i think he/she need to learn how to "enjoy" a game.
ryguy
"go play wow and get ganked for fun"
Cliche, we've heard that before.
The instanced deal with the game makes it unreal and empty. A whole world and it's not even populated.
ZUB ZUB.
Cliche, we've heard that before.
The instanced deal with the game makes it unreal and empty. A whole world and it's not even populated.
ZUB ZUB.
Andy_M
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"go play wow and get ganked for fun"
Cliche, we've heard that before. The instanced deal with the game makes it unreal and empty. A whole world and it's not even populated. ZUB ZUB. |
Isn't the 'gank' npc south of ToA now ?
Lord Iowerth
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Apart from all the npc's and monsters that is.... Oh, and the henchies/pug you are currently in.
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And I, for one, love instance ... no more lines at certain monsters, running into idiots that steal your kills, not having to hear "haha you suck" when you die if you're by yourself or with hench. If it's the social interaction you like, take a group out with you or stay in town!
Honestly ... like you can carry on meaningful conversation with more than 6-8 people at a time ... puh-leeze.
Goonter
Ive noticed a number of online games that offer esthetic ingame items for real money.
People will take any shortcut availauble to get what they are told is a special item, virtual or whatever.
There is something there in the minds of gamers that needs to be addressed in all future games as this is the reality of what well happen in most cases.
Id agree that this game is not focuses for treasure hunting. But because it does exsist in its own fashion, some will play for that.
Then to them, this game is about loot.
I must admit, even though Im not trying to get fissure armor and only use collectors items, I wish I could have better. Im just to lazy to work for it when something less appealing works just as well most of the time.
Ive got my own ideas of what would work in GWs in the case of whats gone wrong. But, I just hope the developers are working towards a solution that benifits a majority of their players.
People will take any shortcut availauble to get what they are told is a special item, virtual or whatever.
There is something there in the minds of gamers that needs to be addressed in all future games as this is the reality of what well happen in most cases.
Id agree that this game is not focuses for treasure hunting. But because it does exsist in its own fashion, some will play for that.
Then to them, this game is about loot.
I must admit, even though Im not trying to get fissure armor and only use collectors items, I wish I could have better. Im just to lazy to work for it when something less appealing works just as well most of the time.
Ive got my own ideas of what would work in GWs in the case of whats gone wrong. But, I just hope the developers are working towards a solution that benifits a majority of their players.
MMSDome
Yes Guild Wars is about loot, everything boils down to money no matter how you look at it.
Sagius Truthbarron
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"go play wow and get ganked for fun"
Cliche, we've heard that before. The instanced deal with the game makes it unreal and empty. A whole world and it's not even populated. ZUB ZUB. |
The last thing we need is 15 people standing on the spawning point of every stone summit boss and blowing them up instantly as they spawn.
Why do you come to this thread to complain? Its about why people talk about money so often and farming, not ideas of how to 'fix' the game.
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Anyway, this whole farming binge was going on with people before they beat the game and completed most of the content. I remember around the time the game came out there were like level 14 W/mo solo farming etons around Kryta.
Its was probably just feedback from the slew of other MMORPGs that required you to grind for hour on end on a bunch of rats as opposed to doing missions and quests for that expirience and that money. Games like Diablo made them long for U83rl3W7 constantly.
GW is MMORPG rehab