3 Observer Mode Suggestions

Vusak

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

1. Display energy levels as well as health levels in the translucent party display and/or the opaque party windows.

2. Allow "save as.." or "save replay" etc. some kind of recording method or some such ability that can be used to watch the same thing later - maybe another heading in observer mode called "Saved Matches".

3. A standalone non-gaming functionality observer mode exe that is free. eg. you goto www.guildwars.com/Observer/ download the observer utility, all it does is give you access to currently running matches to watch - it provides no gaming capability - no other functionality other than to watch matches currently in progress - and matches saved/recorded.

i think i could easily get a bunch of friends playing guildwars instead if i could just link them to a demonstration of some high quality pvp action, without the tediousness of recording to avi, zipping, hosting, etc.

if you added a 'rate this match' type thing after a match is finished - ie. a popup says 'if you would like to rate this match plz press an option 1-5 where 5 is the best'. then each week have a 'match of the week' which is recorded and downloadable on the website or something, so potential gamers could see what its all about.

okay that was prolly closer to like 5 suggestions, but yeah, thats all i can think of for now.

Orbberius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

1 - meh
2 - yes
3 - yes

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

/signed

Nice ideas

Rico Carridan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Eternal Comrades

E/Mo

/signed

Great ideas.

Rico

toric brightblade

toric brightblade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Searching for EU farm guild

A/

/signed

btw.........how do u use observer mode?lol

Lampshade

Lampshade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Xen of Onslaught

Press B.

Tyrion

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Euro Trash [ET]

W/

/Signed

except for 3, thats just more work for designers and i dont find it usefull for myself. If those people are friends then you can aswell get them over to your house and watch the battle on your pc wich has GW installed.

Quote:
if you added a 'rate this match' type thing after a match is finished - ie. a popup says 'if you would like to rate this match plz press an option 1-5 where 5 is the best'. then each week have a 'match of the week' which is recorded and downloadable on the website or something, so potential gamers could see what its all about.
that would be cool

plastichead

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

/signed
they're all excellent suggestions

Alexi Zingforger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

England

[DW] Drunken Warriors

E/

Free cam would help also, unless it already exists and I'm too nooby to work it out.

tafy69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

N/Me

/signed

Number 3 is too much work I think tho

Arrow-bow

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Finland

Army Of Crusader Kings

R/Mo

No No NO! You said those matches must download for guildwars.com So thtahs not good i dea i thinks,i thinks thtah when u press b and see the matches u can see those matches what are Played unlike yesterday or something so u can see played matches too but u dotn need to download those For Guildwars.com.

Juballa

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vusak
2. Allow "save as.." or "save replay" etc. some kind of recording method or some such ability that can be used to watch the same thing later - maybe another heading in observer mode called "Saved Matches".
I actually came to the site this morning specifically to suggest something like 2.

So, /signed (for all suggestions here, not just 2).

However, I'd like to extend the suggestion.

What I'd like is the ability to save a replay of any match in which I participate.

A. This should work regardless of the venue - CA/TA/HoH/GvG.
B. I should be given the option to save once the match is over. And by 'match' I mean any single team fight - so if my team wins and we're waiting for the next match to begin, we'd need to option right then to save the previous match.
C. The entire match should be saved.
D. When viewing a replay, there should be basic VCR-like controls (start over, fast forward, etc). Something like what Warcraft III provides.

Personally, I'd find this more useful than the current Observer mode. Sure, it's fun, and you can learn from it, but I think we'd learn a lot more from studying matches we were in.

Thanks.

Thorivol Liadon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Imperial Fist

W/E

I like the idea, but why build a screen capture into the game? Just get a video capture tool and record it yourself.

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

wow...

you guys are never satisfied, are you? they just gave us observer mode, and you want more already?

/not signed
to give the devs a break.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

/not signed. You're asking for too much. Only way I'd see it possible is for it to record fights and save them to your computer seperately from their site. But then again, you can already get the stuff to do it, so why should they even bother? How about you get up off your fat ass and get the software to record this stuff if it's so important to you.

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Nui
/not signed. You're asking for too much. Only way I'd see it possible is for it to record fights and save them to your computer seperately from their site. But then again, you can already get the stuff to do it, so why should they even bother? How about you get up off your fat ass and get the software to record this stuff if it's so important to you.
You're gonna get a lump of coal in 2 days.



The Observer.exe could be used as a browser plugin. When your guild has a battle, you could show it on your website.

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Juballa
I actually came to the site this morning specifically to suggest something like 2.

So, /signed (for all suggestions here, not just 2).

However, I'd like to extend the suggestion.

What I'd like is the ability to save a replay of any match in which I participate.

A. This should work regardless of the venue - CA/TA/HoH/GvG.
B. I should be given the option to save once the match is over. And by 'match' I mean any single team fight - so if my team wins and we're waiting for the next match to begin, we'd need to option right then to save the previous match.
C. The entire match should be saved.
D. When viewing a replay, there should be basic VCR-like controls (start over, fast forward, etc). Something like what Warcraft III provides.

Personally, I'd find this more useful than the current Observer mode. Sure, it's fun, and you can learn from it, but I think we'd learn a lot more from studying matches we were in.

Thanks.
/signed to those might req some work but if Anet is willing to do it ok

Also I really want the ability to watch my guildies fight in gvg but we're not Rank +100 so I can't

Mybe an option for joining as an observer should be included.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sereng Amaranth
You're gonna get a lump of coal in 2 days.



The Observer.exe could be used as a browser plugin. When your guild has a battle, you could show it on your website.
Does this mean you're also getting me the hat and pipe aswell? I need to give them to scrappy jhim.

Chev of Hardass

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

1. I would like this, but it is not really needed
2. FRAPs will do this. I have recorded a couple of good matches EnS vs iQ last night, woot!! We do not need to take up bandwidth for this thing. Let's keep it simple.
3. I like the idea, but I am greedy and do not want to give up bandwith for it. If anyone wants to be convinced to buy this game send them to me , unless the do not fix the bridges.


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Bridge Bugs, let's fix them:
Guild-Hall
http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/showthread.php?t=34103

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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...997#post813997

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Allow observance of Hall of Heroes battles even when a rank 100 or below guild isn't there. That's my only complaint :/

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

Wow...people are never satifised...

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

No, I just think its kind of dumb that you have to wait for crappy balance groups to get to the HoH just to watch what battles are altering the "War of the Worlds".

Rank 100 and below guilds hardly ever make it to the Halls, they're too attached to GvG thinking.

Hells Vengeance

Hells Vengeance

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Eight Deadly Sins

W/Mo

Thats just human nature be satisfied with it

Chev of Hardass

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

I agree, HoH is often held by guilds that specialize in winning and holding the halls. It is an entirely different game from GvG and requires a completely different sort of tactics. These teams often can wipe out and IWAY team while holding off a spike team.

HoH is not a joke, it is incredibly different and amazing thing.

/signed.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Funny that no one made the 'never satisfied' comments when everyone was having a fit over the improved AI or the low prices on runes, but somehow they always make them when it comes to PvP.

Juballa

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorivol Liadon
I like the idea, but why build a screen capture into the game? Just get a video capture tool and record it yourself.
Well, I've never used a video capture program, but I suspect it won't let me do the things that are truly useful in a replay - in short, all the things that Observer mode lets us do (change which character has the focus, etc).

I don't want a saved replay just so I can watch the same thing I saw while I was fighting. I want to view the other parts of the battlefield, observe what skills a character used, etc.

Chev of Hardass

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Juballa
Well, I've never used a video capture program, but I suspect it won't let me do the things that are truly useful in a replay - in short, all the things that Observer mode lets us do (change which character has the focus, etc).

I don't want a saved replay just so I can watch the same thing I saw while I was fighting. I want to view the other parts of the battlefield, observe what skills a character used, etc.
I don't understand wht you are after here. Wou can do all these things far easier than a football coach can. I think I know what you need, here is how to fix your problem.

-unclick the stupid autocamera thing at the top right
-hit "P" to bring up the party window
-on the party window, click the grey button to make another party window
-hit the colored button by the grey one that is not highlighted

You now have a party window for both teams and can actually see what they are doing.

In my opinion A.Net is retarded for making the obwerver mode start up in something that would be considered a nice demo for the game. Auto-camera is terrible.

darkMishkin

darkMishkin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Wow...people are never satifised...
Calm down, this whole section is just a wish-list. Nothing wrong with that.

I particularly like the idea of posting matches of the week on a website, great promotion for GW pvp.

Nigy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Seattle

/signed all the way.

BTW signed is kinda like singed

Tailon

Tailon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europe

Frozen Soil [soil]

For those of you naging about Fraps and similar software, I have a feeling the original poster is talking about replay files *not* movie files in the OP.

Beeing able to save replays and share them with people on the internet would be a very very good idea. It would deffinatly strenghten the PvP community in GuildWars, particulary if the replays could be rated by users like the OP mentions. I don't think it should be limited to beeing hosted on GuildWars.com though. Using the "save as" function should just download the replay file to your computer, which you could then upload somewhere.

And it wouldn't be too much work for the devs either. ANet obviously have some way of storing matches in a replay format which the observer engine is able to play back, so the functionality is allready there. The stand-alone observer client is also a great idea, and once again it would use functionality allready there.

/signed

Juballa

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass
I don't understand wht you are after here. Wou can do all these things far easier than a football coach can. I think I know what you need, here is how to fix your problem.
Um, no.

- I can't do these things for a match that happened last week, but that I want to review now.
- I can't do these things for any match (only matches that have a highly-ranked guild in them, or whatever the criteria for inclusion in Observer mode morph into).

Let's be clear - I think Observer mode is wonderful. It just doesn't do enough. Yep, I'm being picky. Yep, I'd be shocked if the company hadn't already thought of my suggestion. But, I'm also indicating my interest in their developing a tool for saving and viewing matches 'offline,' so to speak.

Such a tool would be great for the community, as others have stated, and would increase my interest in PvP. Sounds like a good thing for anet.

Thanks.