Can't something be done to make Rangers more acceptable to the game? It is SO unfair that Rangers can't go farming for green items because they CAN'T get on a Sorrows Furnace team. And no, it DOESN'T WORK to go farming with henches....
Fix Rangers so they contribute more to the teams success. Let them do more damge or help the team in some other measureable way.
Remeber when bows did 35 damage? Should have left then at 35 max damage...
Rhodamine Red
Fix Rangers
Rhodamine Red
Josh
If Ranger bows were 35 max dmg again, Rangers Spike teams would be even-more powerful.
FFF_WarRaven
i run with my guild and we takr rangers, sometimes we take more than 1, rangers are still powerfull, people are just prejudice against one type of toon or other....ever see a group of just rangers farm? 
, hell just 3 can do a run in uw, and my bows do anywhere from 25 to even up to 50+ dmg, their all 15^50 with 10/10 sundering + an extra mod etc.
Go try thunderhead with just rangers and 2 henchie monks, easist way i ever did that mission, everyone took 1 or 2 traps and just blockup the stairs, and a few people with poision arrow and some /mo to heal.
i remember when people didn't ever want a necro in thier group, the problem is people not knowing about certain types of chars, or people playing them don't know wth their doing.
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, hell just 3 can do a run in uw, and my bows do anywhere from 25 to even up to 50+ dmg, their all 15^50 with 10/10 sundering + an extra mod etc.Go try thunderhead with just rangers and 2 henchie monks, easist way i ever did that mission, everyone took 1 or 2 traps and just blockup the stairs, and a few people with poision arrow and some /mo to heal.
i remember when people didn't ever want a necro in thier group, the problem is people not knowing about certain types of chars, or people playing them don't know wth their doing.
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Thorivol Liadon
Well I have no problem bringing rangers with my team. They are very handy if their skill bar is set well for the missions they are doing. No fixes needed.
4runner
Make your own fA/sf farm team, you cant do 5 man like all the other but you can do 6man. Something like this\
1.barrage ranger
2.interupter(strictly) or barrage ranger
3.trapper x2
2 monks 1heal & 1 prot
The idea is to pull them towards the trapps using the barrage rangers, works but very tricky to pull off!! Alot of team cordination required have successfully farmed sf/fa with my guildies. F/a very difficult but can be done, you will have to take your time with this but you can do it with rangers only and 2 monks. LOL have fun and rangers FTW!!!!
1.barrage ranger
2.interupter(strictly) or barrage ranger
3.trapper x2
2 monks 1heal & 1 prot
The idea is to pull them towards the trapps using the barrage rangers, works but very tricky to pull off!! Alot of team cordination required have successfully farmed sf/fa with my guildies. F/a very difficult but can be done, you will have to take your time with this but you can do it with rangers only and 2 monks. LOL have fun and rangers FTW!!!!
agent of ascalon
a few lil things:
1. Trapper
2. Spiker
3. Barage
4. Long range sniping
5. Strong attacks
6. Interupts.
1. Trapper
2. Spiker
3. Barage
4. Long range sniping
5. Strong attacks
6. Interupts.
Asrial
Wouldn't a co-ordinated ranger spike group dominate PvE?
knives
Yes, lets fix rangers, and not any other class thats not widely accepted in the PvE areas. No, leave mesmers where they are, they get groups all the time. But oh, make rangers deal 100+dmg pershot, that will make everything better.
All people want now are Tank, Nuker (optional), Spiteful/Minion Master, Heal + Bonder Monk.
All people wanted were Tank, Nuker, Heal Monk.
Before necros weren't even considered (except for batteries on the rare occasion), and now look, EVERYONE wants atleast one in their group. They seem as vital as a monk nowadays.
All people want now are Tank, Nuker (optional), Spiteful/Minion Master, Heal + Bonder Monk.
All people wanted were Tank, Nuker, Heal Monk.
Before necros weren't even considered (except for batteries on the rare occasion), and now look, EVERYONE wants atleast one in their group. They seem as vital as a monk nowadays.
Jessyi
That's because necros are awesome (of course). They have so many normal skills that are just so freakin' elite. Spinal Shivers on a monk boss? Pffft - owned. I use Aura of the Lich/Aura of Restoration/Blood Renewal/Order of Pain/Dark Fury/Dark Pact/Dark Aura on my necro, keeping OoP on all the time for massive physical damage bonuses (with practically no life saccing). If any monsters are stupid enough to get in my face, Dark Pact and Dark Aura can deal about 90 dark damage every two seconds at a cost of 5 energy. Where else can you get that?
-Jessyi
-Jessyi
Michael Relaeh
So its common for rangers to get left behind in a team? I thought people only hated me cause I have a lvl 16 pet Wolf (named Demon Hunter) I am even regected by my fellow rangers 
I am a sad depressed person
I am a sad depressed person
mortalis doleo
stick it to the man by getting:
3 conjure+barrage rangers with interrupt
1 tank (gear tank if you insist)
1 heal monk
1 prot
you can even replace the tank with a ranger using stances with qz if you really must, but that's pushing it
3 conjure+barrage rangers with interrupt
1 tank (gear tank if you insist)
1 heal monk
1 prot
you can even replace the tank with a ranger using stances with qz if you really must, but that's pushing it
Flame
The thing is, a Ranger can pretty much kill anything. Interrupts will kill any casters, Throw Dirt and Stances kill Warriors and Rangers. The problem is that people are stupid. The majority of Rangers, rather than playing something intelligent, get a pet with no Beast Mastery and then just use Power Shot, and other damage-dealing skills. This makes others think Rangers are useless, and those kind are.
In PvP, I use a Ranger, and one team I fought said I was the best they had seen. I never got parties going through the missions. It was the same build. And while I'm not claiming to be amazing, I've never been a drag on my team.
In PvP, I use a Ranger, and one team I fought said I was the best they had seen. I never got parties going through the missions. It was the same build. And while I'm not claiming to be amazing, I've never been a drag on my team.
Age
My Bow can do more than 35 damage as I have seen tell them you are trappper and some groups don't like have pets along.
Lord Of Losers
people just dont see the benefits of rangers.
give it some time and you might see ppl calling out for rangers as much as you see ppl looking for MM/SS necros for SF farming.
give it some time and you might see ppl calling out for rangers as much as you see ppl looking for MM/SS necros for SF farming.
dargon
like everyone else has basically said, rangers aren't broken, they don't need fixing, peoples perceptions of them are what needs fixing.
Orbberius
In PvP, Rangers are actually too powerful at the moment.
VGJustice
Rangers have *been* overpowered for a while. Just, only when they're run correctly. Or when they have good co-ordination.
Sk8tborderx
Rangers need no fix at all, the fastest way to clear FoW/UW/GF/SF is with one team build, 6 barrage rangers, 1 trapper, 1 orders necro. (IWAY could clear faster in pve but you have to rez ur pets and get them killed again). All you have to do is have everyone go as r/mo and bring heal area and stay close together, just have a rotation planned out so 5 are spamming barrage after 1 person uses heal area when needed it wil be the next person turn, I'm sure the orders necro would love to not worry about healing himself.
Guardian of the Light
Rangers and Warriors are a bit over powered after all look at IWAY its made of W/R
Sk8tborderx
Warriors are not nearly as powerful as rangers, yes you can clear very quickly with 7 W/R's but you can do a smite run in UW with 2 rangers that just set traps, pull the enemy, stand back and /dance until they drop.
Sagaris
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Originally Posted by Flame
The thing is, a Ranger can pretty much kill anything. Interrupts will kill any casters, Throw Dirt and Stances kill Warriors and Rangers. The problem is that people are stupid. The majority of Rangers, rather than playing something intelligent, get a pet with no Beast Mastery and then just use Power Shot, and other damage-dealing skills. This makes others think Rangers are useless, and those kind are.
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VGJustice
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Originally Posted by Jessyi
If any monsters are stupid enough to get in my face, Dark Pact and Dark Aura can deal about 90 dark damage every two seconds at a cost of 5 energy. Where else can you get that?
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Orbberius
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Originally Posted by Sagaris
I am a Ranger wit pet, and I do have Beastmastery at 15! Doesn't mean I get picked.
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And yeah, one of these days Anet has to tone done Ranger spike a little bit. It's simply too overpowered as it is.
Takeko Nakano
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Originally Posted by Josh
If Ranger bows were 35 max dmg again, Rangers Spike teams would be even-more powerful.
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There is nothing wrong with rangers - they're an excellent contribution to any team. The problem is a lack of information - people are just stupid and assume that a ranger is crap. But that doesn't mean rangers need a buff.
Funk_Styles
figures the person whining about rangers not being accepted is a town dweller, and prolly cant make a decent ranger. perhaps this is the reason HE cant get into a group, i have absolutely no problem finding a group for farming
dargon
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Originally Posted by Orbberius
Hahahahaha there's your problem right there. Beastmastery is only useful for its non-pet skills. Seriously, pets are the crappiest things ever. Even in IWAY, they're only good for DYING.
And yeah, one of these days Anet has to tone done Ranger spike a little bit. It's simply too overpowered as it is. |
As for ranger spike, my guild went up against a ranger spike guild team and we flawlessed them, spike isn't overpowered, no moreso than air, blood or earth.
Flame
And there is your misconception. Rangers aren't about damage. Rangers are about conditions (Poison Arrow, Throw Dirt, Pin Down, Barbed Trap, et cetera), Interrupt (Savage Shot, Distracting Shot, Concussion Shot, Punishing Shot), and surviving (Whirling Defense, Lightning Reflexes, Escape). People who play Rangers just to do damage, unless the team is built for that, generally are not good Rangers. Because frankly, there are other classes that do a lot more damage.