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Lord Cooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Black Death Knights

E/

21 Apr 2006 at 11:24 - 41

id like to see a warrior with all the hammers axes swords and shields strapped to his back. that way he cant move because of all the weight and he is a sitting duck for my elementalist

or maybe all the hammers in your belt pouch pull your trousers down randomly in the middle of a fight causing you to fall over.. possibly impaling yourself on your sword?

seriously give rangers a cosmetic quiver. if they are using a longbow make it a back quiver.. short bows horn bows etc etc get hip quivers

MysticoN

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Lord of the guilds

N/R

21 Apr 2006 at 11:55 - 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Cooper

id like to see a warrior with all the hammers axes swords and shields strapped to his back. that way he cant move because of all the weight and he is a sitting duck for my elementalist

or maybe all the hammers in your belt pouch pull your trousers down randomly in the middle of a fight causing you to fall over.. possibly impaling yourself on your sword?

seriously give rangers a cosmetic quiver. if they are using a longbow make it a back quiver.. short bows horn bows etc etc get hip quivers

I also agree , I dont see why weapons cant be strapped on the back or on the side when not in combat ... its just weird to not see weapons when you dont use them ... they just suddently dissapear ? :P , I also think quivers is a great idea ... makes the looks on the characters better and more realistic

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

21 Apr 2006 at 12:05 - 43

It is a fantasy world with magic. Being able to stuff a couple of tons of crafting materials into a backpack (that doesn't even appear on your back) is not possible in real life. I tend to just think of it as some magical ability and just play and enjoy the game.

/not signed

Arknow

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Middle of Space, Corner of No and Where

Ell EFF GEE

R/

21 Apr 2006 at 13:10 - 44

agree with monty, its magic so let it look like magic, thoguh quivers would give a more solid :ranger: look,

how about this, just a plain ol quiver, nothing special but -maybe- a bit of atkspeed bonus,nothing crazy, cap at like 10%, after all, quivers are supposed to make it all easier right?

Sister Spice

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

Dracos Paladin

Mo/

21 Apr 2006 at 13:33 - 45

I dont see why Rangers couldnt have one handed bows. Short bows/ recurves could be one handed while long bows / flat bows could be two handed. Thus if you played with a one handed bow you could play with an offhand (ie quiver)

This is just the same as warriors having the option of swords (one handed) or hammers (two handed)

If that was done then perhaps the 'one handed' bows would only have one mod whereas the big bows would have two. The quiver could then add the equivalent of the missing mods (ie as someone suggested - sundering / poisonous etc arrows) while the bigger bows would have the option of having the mod added directly.

There are advantages and disadvantages about bows due to range - these could stay and so be part of the calculation people would need to make when deciding what to go for.

Spice

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

21 Apr 2006 at 13:45 - 46

I wonder why people complain about an unlimited supply of arrows.
Agreed, quivers would give more appearance to the ranger but still, if you want a quiver go outside of the house, grab a stick, string, a rock, and ta-da a QUIVER!

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

21 Apr 2006 at 13:53 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Spice

I dont see why Rangers couldnt have one handed bows. Short bows/ recurves could be one handed while long bows / flat bows could be two handed. Thus if you played with a one handed bow you could play with an offhand (ie quiver)

This is just the same as warriors having the option of swords (one handed) or hammers (two handed)

If that was done then perhaps the 'one handed' bows would only have one mod whereas the big bows would have two. The quiver could then add the equivalent of the missing mods (ie as someone suggested - sundering / poisonous etc arrows) while the bigger bows would have the option of having the mod added directly.

There are advantages and disadvantages about bows due to range - these could stay and so be part of the calculation people would need to make when deciding what to go for.

Spice

Ever try to fire a bow (other than a cross bow) with one hand? And no snide comments about using your teeth to draw the string.

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

21 Apr 2006 at 13:57 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiery

I wonder why people complain about an unlimited supply of arrows.
Agreed, quivers would give more appearance to the ranger but still, if you want a quiver go outside of the house, grab a stick, string, a rock, and ta-da a QUIVER!

If I'm going to make a quiver, what do I need the rock for?

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

21 Apr 2006 at 14:03 - 49

Well you need to make them yourself seeing your quiver is gunna be empty.

Dj Tano

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

21 Apr 2006 at 14:32 - 50

Actually it would be a nice thing to see candycane weapons shoot special candycane arrows/energy-balls

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

21 Apr 2006 at 16:22 - 51

/signed

Quivers would be great. I don't think we should just assume that it is 'magical' and 'doesn't have to be realistic' like the backpack. It would be a nice visual, and could be toggled on and off. Bow string visuals could also be added and have a toggle.

Indexed.

Hunter Sharparrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Jeepers Kreepers

R/Mo

21 Apr 2006 at 20:06 - 52

Quote:

Ever try to fire a bow (other than a cross bow) with one hand? And no snide comments about using your teeth to draw the string.

Agreed. Even cross bows still need two hands to load.

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

21 Apr 2006 at 20:23 - 53

Visual quiver /signed

Now off to get some ecto and shards, to get me a FoW-armor-quiver

R A C

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

In my parent's basement

R/Mo

21 Apr 2006 at 20:23 - 54

/signed for quiver for cosmetic purposes.
But gimmie string first. Would a string be that hard? I mean, seriously. It's not like "OH NOES! The performance drop from bowstrings will kill the game!" or anything.

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

21 Apr 2006 at 20:25 - 55

/signed

Lepton CFd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Pantheon of Shadows [dei]

Mo/Me

07 May 2006 at 14:24 - 56

/mostdefinitelysigned

When I first started playing GW during May Preview Event, whatever it was, I created a Ranger. One of the first things I noticed was that I didn't have a quiver! =( I wouldn't mind if ANet just added a standard quiver to every ranger, or if they actually made it a true part of the game (such as different types of quivers with different stats...I believe someone mentioned hip/back quivers and such). Either way, show us where the Rangers are getting their arrows from! It's annoying!!!

As for having to buy arrows, I wouldn't care if you had to or not. But a quiver is NECESSARY.

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

07 May 2006 at 14:36 - 57

Quivers and bow strings.... that's all we need.

As much as id like to see a ranger run out of arrows in mid PvP, I don't plan on seeing that happening.

Hunter Sharparrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Jeepers Kreepers

R/Mo

07 May 2006 at 14:44 - 58

In the end the best option would be just a cosmetic change. It has no impact on the game play as in it won't increase or decrease or even change the rangers class in any way. Seeing your previously used weapon slung on you back (as long as you still have it on you person) would be nice as well. It would work for those that have multiple weapon sets and for when you enter a town. What ever weapon you were holding when you or your party enters a town would either be strapped to your back or hooked at your side.

Reminds me of BoodRayne.

God's Will

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Rogues of Bastion

R/E

07 May 2006 at 17:12 - 59

For cosmetic purposes shure.
Perhaps you could buy different types of quivers for fashion and such (fow quiver?). For bowstrings i would love to be able to see a visual difference btw the different strings. For example, a fire string would have a think line of flame, poison would be green mist, bleeding would be red mist, and so on.

bringer di morte

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

My house

The True Oni [Oni]

07 May 2006 at 18:36 - 60

/signed

They just shouldn't give any bonuses or armor, or they would be disrupting the balance. Otherwise they would have to replace a piece of already existing ranger armor.

Meneldil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

United States [KS]

[none]

R/W

08 May 2006 at 23:27 - 61

what?? Factions has been released, but still NO QUIVERS!!

Vermilion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

NY

08 May 2006 at 23:31 - 62

Maybe its been said, but I don't see why Rangers should have quivers and other classes nada. I wouldn't mind if all classes got something. (sheaths, etc)

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

08 May 2006 at 23:41 - 63

Why? What possible purpose could it serve? Haven't you noticed? This is the magical land of Tyria and in Tyria the magical arrow faeries bring you arrows as you need them. Quivers will anger the arrow faeries and then rangers will become nerfed as they futiley try to beat enemies to death with their bows.

/not signed in order to avoid the faeries' wrath

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

09 May 2006 at 01:12 - 64

ok this all goes back to the bow strings and fuzzy armor conversations, and theres simple reasons:

1) GW is meant for the community people, some who dont have highpowered comps and stuff like that so they take out the unnecasary little things, and make armor of other chars in outposts a little less defined than yours, bow strings would also be taxing on these people's computers *ddep breath*. This makes for less comp power

2) If GW added some of these, as said above, some people would just lag out all the time and GW would lose some of their costumers, and yes that would be bad

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PureEvilYak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Somewhere Luxon Alignment: Chaos

The Dark Fortress

R/

09 May 2006 at 03:17 - 65

I can see why having bowstrings and stuff would be laggy, but a quiver is just a quiver! The arrows could just be stationary, and you wouldn't actually see one pulled out when you attack with a bow. It would just be an addition to the armor, like assassins have thousands of knives.

The only problem is when you get, say, a monk or an ele using a bow. But they can just conjure up an arrow fairy. I'm a ranger. I deserve somewhere else to store my arrows except... there...

/signed

Dark Suoon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Organization of Dawn [DAWN]

W/D

09 May 2006 at 03:26 - 66

quivers would be pretty cool
o and i was thinking about that like a couple months ago... lol
/signed

unda dawg

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Narnia

Twilight Saraphim [TS]

E/Me

09 May 2006 at 03:31 - 67

not only quivers...i think u shood ahve to buy arrows like 100g for 1000 arrows so like cheap but u still have to buy them cuz even if u have a quiver they still wood pop out of no where. quivers shood also have stats like part of an armor set.

PureEvilYak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Somewhere Luxon Alignment: Chaos

The Dark Fortress

R/

09 May 2006 at 03:40 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by unda dawg

not only quivers...i think u shood ahve to buy arrows like 100g for 1000 arrows so like cheap but u still have to buy them cuz even if u have a quiver they still wood pop out of no where. quivers shood also have stats like part of an armor set.

If you did that, you would have to give rangers a dramatic power boost. Really, I mean, if you didn't, rangers would suck so badly. And I probably use about 500 arrows a mission, what if I ran out? And even if they we're that cheap, in PVP would would make no gain in money, so rangers would always be strapped for cash. And in PVP? You couldn't physically use rangers as PVP only. And also, if I did run out, it would make me useless, and allies would complain. Then if you did give rangers a power boost, they would overpower other races, as long as they were well equipped. Which would suck for other classes. So no, having to buy arrows would be a really bad idea.

Meneldil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

United States [KS]

[none]

R/W

12 Jun 2006 at 03:19 - 69

still waiting for my quiver, arena net.....

BigTru

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

12 Jun 2006 at 04:42 - 70

Make quivers for rnagers, A.net. gogogogoogogogogogooogogoogogogogogogogoogogogoogo ogoo

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

12 Jun 2006 at 04:45 - 71

You sure have been waiting for a while.

Embodiment Of Gaia

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Netherlands

Djisora No Mon [DjiM]

W/E

12 Jun 2006 at 08:21 - 72

/signed for quivers (for cosmetic purposes)

The Afflicted Rangers have quivers, so why not us Anet? Check their animation, it's just the way it should be for rangers imo.

/signed for bowstrings

The animation on the bows are very nice (the way they bend), but why no bowstrings? I can't imagine that it really will cause lag issues.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trylo

2) If GW added some of these, as said above, some people would just lag out all the time and GW would lose some of their costumers, and yes that would be bad

.

Hmm, and the animating glowing stuff on certain weapon skins and for example the piece of cloth that hangs from the broadsword (moves like a cape), will also cause lag?

I'm no expert on this but I don't think this will be a big issue.

Shadow Dragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Harrismith, South Africa

[SAGA]

W/Mo

12 Jun 2006 at 08:38 - 73

While on that subject i'd like to see the sheath for that massive fellblade i'm wielding

/signed

BeowulfKamdas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

none atm

W/E

12 Jun 2006 at 11:24 - 74

it would be cool but I doubt ANet will go through all the trouble to adding the quiver graphic which would cost time and make them no money XD

Iago Di LeMoix

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Louisiana

Mystic Forerunners

Rt/Mo

12 Jun 2006 at 18:52 - 75

I noticed this thread as i was reading through stuff (my first post here, just signed up) and thought i'd add my own lil 2 cents. My very first character was a ranger, the day my small town actually got Guild Wars (about 2 weeks after it came out). Yes, i believe a quiver should be equipted with the bow in the second hand slot. there should be a cosmetic image for any character armed with a bow, however, there should also be items that are "magical" that can be placed in the secondhand slot. now, before i go confusing myself and others, allow me to explain jsut a little bit. If you're going to use a bow... you're going to have a quiver.. period. So all bows will give you the "basic" quiver grafic. quiver "items" should be items that will replace the "basic" quiver. These items could have very minor bonuses on them. Nothing like an energy focus mind you, a ranger with a +12 energy quiver would just be slightly painful.. I'd say the quiver should be upgraded with the different condition lengthening types of arrows "poison, bleeding, etc.." however, due to anet already doing it with the strings, it would be a giant pain for them to do that. so just make them give a minor bonus... default being half of a focus, ei +6 energy (req 9 marksmanship). blue, purple, gold, or green quivers could give bonuses such as (max suggestions here) +15 health, +6 armor (to all, phyiscal, or elemental), or possibly Attack Skill (and only BOW attacks) recharge time (not more than 1 or 2 seconds for any skill, and no skill can be lowered below 1 second recharge). Basically, put a quiver image, but also allow that image to be changed with the quiver item, and allow minor bonuses for the quiver.

Sir Velron Rosemoon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

W/Mo

23 Jun 2006 at 04:09 - 76

Quivers.... Gotta wanna needa bo.... I mean quiver....

/signed with john handcock

X I

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Austin, Texas

23 Jun 2006 at 04:21 - 77

It should be just an appearance on leggings.

/signed

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

23 Jun 2006 at 06:22 - 78

/not signed

I'm not up for cosmetical changes until some gameplay things are fixed. I would much rather have an auction house or a rejoin feature then something as miniscule as a quiver. I mean come on, does it matter?

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

23 Jun 2006 at 07:01 - 79

I if A.net created a extra slot to put Quivers on your back, then yes.

If it changed the limit of arrows then no.

At the end of the day it really doesn't matter. As long as there is balance.

CmOo_WtFaCk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Warriors of Apathy

R/

23 Jun 2006 at 14:50 - 80

/signed

i like the idea of having quivers seems awkward without one