Official GW Scams Thread (no posting names)

shawn23233

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Yeah scammer will be very common in guildwars soon. They were everywhere in Lineage2 and GW is hosted internationally by NCSoft who seem to have a knack for attracting these poeple.

I just hope they can avoid the hacks and botters that ruined Lineage2 it really was a great game, and I am dreading seeing that happen again in GW (

The IOU

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Guild of Night

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaos
LOL! I got scammed and bought those damn ashes not long ago. Oh well, 200gp lost. I just felt a little dumb for a minute.

But for the ones that scam, there are that many more that are cool. I was looking to buy one iron ignot, I just didn't want to wait and some guy took a minute to just give me one. He didn't ask for anything and still threw in 10 gp for him for the effort. I figure that's still cheaper than paying 200 for 10 when I only needed one. So props to him.

I know for a fact I'm totally underselling things, but I would rather just get rid of than try to get the highest price.
Surprised you only lost 200g, do you mean 2000? Lowest I saw scammers sell it was 2P. Either way I think they fixed this scam, the quest doesn't give you ashes at the end anymore I don't think.

Supervixen

Supervixen

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Asia

I'm not sure if you'd count this a scam but it has come to my attention that people are selling items given out by collectors later in the game to less knowledgeable players for exhorbitant prices.

One of those items being a
11-22 fire staff
20% faster cast 20% faster recharge both for fire skills
+10 energy (req. 9 fire magic)

If people are willing to pay 5k or 9k for it fine, but none of the sellers I've seen thus far have had the courtesy to inform bidders that upgrades used on the staff will have no chance at possible re-salvages.

Another item that's been making the rounds is a divine idol, +8 energy, +15 more energy, +30 health, requires 9 divine prayers (if I recall correctly).

If anyone has more collector given out items to add to the list for reference that would be much appreciated.

Svenn

Svenn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

near Atlanta, GA - USA

Dark Entities (DE)

R/Mo

From the GW site, check this out:
Quote:
Rules of Conduct Enforced24 May 2005
Due to the proliferation of casinos and their potential for player abuse, we will be blocking the accounts of those who advertise or operate casinos or other gambling schemes within the game, effective immediately. Players should be aware that casinos are a breach of the Rules of Conduct, as is the advertisement or promotion of cheats, hacks, of exploits. None of these things will be accepted within Guild Wars.
Yay!!! So freakin' sick of their shouted advertisements!

Keira Darkwind

Keira Darkwind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Clan Arthur

Mo/Me

I was broadcasting for a party for the ashes quest last night, and someone whispered me saying he had the ashes to sell for 1p. I declined as I don't have that kind of money and would prefer to do the quest for myself. Anyway, after doing the quest, I still had the urn in my inventory, now when I completed the quest I was rushing the altar and clicking like mental on it before I died (and got the ashes) Now I had wondered whether I had somehow got two due to a bug and whether it was possible to give the spare one to someone else to complete the quest. I'm glad I asked first as I wouldn't want to have inadvertently scammed anyone.

thegriffgeeks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

in the wild with Lion

Knights of the Old Republic

R/Mo

Could this be a potential scam. I joined a group going into the Fissure. Group was all in place, so the leader started collecting 125g from each player. He annouced he was 500g short. A few minutes later he left thge group AND the game. I tried hours later to contact him, but to no avail. What gives! Thank God it wasn't the whole 1p that I had given him.

Lasher Dragon

Lasher Dragon

Draconic Rage Incarnate

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Alphahive

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by thegriffgeeks
Could this be a potential scam. I joined a group going into the Fissure. Group was all in place, so the leader started collecting 125g from each player. He annouced he was 500g short. A few minutes later he left thge group AND the game. I tried hours later to contact him, but to no avail. What gives! Thank God it wasn't the whole 1p that I had given him.
Probably a scam, but could have been bad internet-connection day. My buddy was having one of those yesterday, which really sucked because we were trying to get him through Thirsty River.

momo2oo2

momo2oo2

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Zaragoza, Spain

[ODL]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
actually, yes there is a reason: belt pouches

won't go in the trade screen for some (no doubt, really stupid) reason.

so you have to into an instance and drop them to trade

of course usually i just sell fetid carapaces for the price of a belt pouch...but on occassion if you get stuck with a belt pouch, then you have no choice but to drop trade it
Is it true? I have 2 belt pouches (apart from the one i fill) and have tried to sell them for 50g (think its fair, they sell for 100g) but noone ever wanted it so I've never traded them

luis cruz99

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

if u have a free key i would love to have one plz send it to [email protected]

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

Um... about the above post...

Moderators, please, if you will...?

Poppinjay

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

14 purple items and one yellow in ONE RUN?

I barely see a purple item every three days. Where are you guys hunting for this stuff???

Pop

kbuegel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Is there a thread, or better yet a web page or maybe spreadsheet download, that lists what items can be traded or used at collectors, and what you can get for them. Seems like there are a few popular collector items, and dozens of unpopular ones, and it would be great to know when you get a drop what it might be used for.

thegriffgeeks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

in the wild with Lion

Knights of the Old Republic

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by kbuegel
Is there a thread, or better yet a web page or maybe spreadsheet download, that lists what items can be traded or used at collectors, and what you can get for them. Seems like there are a few popular collector items, and dozens of unpopular ones, and it would be great to know when you get a drop what it might be used for.
Try this thread http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=9187

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
i got scammed like this today

i posted screenshots proving the whole scam to the devs. here is the response i got from a GM:



which basically is just a polite way to say that NCSoft knows this is a scam, but doesn't care. NCSoft clearly has has a pro-scammer policy when it comes to Guild Wars.

perhaps scamming should be promoted on the GW boards as a way to make gold, since NCSoft is fine with it and it's totally legal according to them
have you ever heard of a game that replaces items if you say you lost them cause someone cheated you?

No offense. but there is nothing they can do about it. if people are stupid enough to get scammed. they deserve it. we all know people are out there scamming people for a living. which is why you allways check what items you re recieving. and what items you are giving. do not trust anybody you don't know. they might be good 99.9% of the time. but what if you encounter an evil person that one time where you're buying your uber pwning long sword of doom and you get a worthless 2-3 damage starters sword?

"don't trust anybody" sounds harsh. but it is the only way to be sure!.. usually i trust the ones i'm dealing with. but thats mainly because its guildmates 99% of the time. or people form other guilds who happens to be on the same vent server as i am.. and if their scamming. people will know.. anyway.. don't trust people. allways check what you're getting in return

lVlercenary

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

If you have not already checked the update, this had to be my favorite one

Removed the "/roll" command from towns and outposts.

The casions are effectively dead.

Yay for NCsoft!

Jumbo-Shrimp

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

i'd agree the casions were geting very OLD. i played a few times, but that was with my friend and i. so no thieft going on :-D. well i'm out like a light in the ghetto.. yeah bye

Garias Whitanian

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

THE BLACK DYE SCAM

the thread got closed and I just wanted to say that I saw someone selling black dyes, 10 for 1k each as well, I was mithering him to sell them me but he just ignored me I presume he'd sold them, sounds like the black dye scam man could be true, although i saw and heard nothing of any real value... I still have his name on my friends list though, because you cant delete people, another oversight, anyway there you go.

Garias Whitanian

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edge Martinez
I have a really simple way of not getting scammed. I don't buy stuff from people. We have one guy in our guild who enjoys selling things and he's fair. When I run across black dye or anything valuable, he gets it. And yes, we trust him. Furthermore, if I didn't find it or it wasn't given to me, I give it to guild members who need it. "You need a sword, but have two kick butt pommels and can't decide? Here... I found 2 15-22 swords. Take both." And if no one in the guild can use something? It's given away.

The only time I sell things is when they're too valuable to give away to someone not in the guild. Minor runes are 100, Major are 200, Superior are 300. If I am getting ripped off, so be it. 30 minutes of farming and getting 2 plat is time better spent than selling something in town for 30 minutes.

This game works alot better when you help folks out. At least that's been my experience.

Although its nice to be nice, surely giving stuff away to new players cant be good for the economy, imagine if everyone started it.....







go on, imagine

Spartan2

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

The Intarweb

Wrath of Nature [WoN]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garias Whitanian
THE BLACK DYE SCAM

the thread got closed and I just wanted to say that I saw someone selling black dyes, 10 for 1k each as well, I was mithering him to sell them me but he just ignored me I presume he'd sold them, sounds like the black dye scam man could be true, although i saw and heard nothing of any real value... I still have his name on my friends list though, because you cant delete people, another oversight, anyway there you go.
Garias, you can delete people off of you friends list. Click on the Profile or Face to the left of their name and then click on the option to remove from your friends list.

Swarnt Brightstar

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

At the black dye scam area once a player gave me a black dye and a few days later it dissapeared! Thank god the player didnt make me pay for it

Xandria Necromancer

Xandria Necromancer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Georgia

LoSs

N/R

There are two players going around and trying to sell "glowing dyes." Can someone tell me how I can properly report these people? I have screen shots showing them trying to sell their fake dyes for 1k and 999.

Old Dood

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

That is real sad that people have to scam. Wait, call it what it is CHEATING. I have given more away then sold to people. Call me Stoopid...but I like to have fun. I have given away dyes all the time. Now Silver is one I want to collect. I have given away leather,scales,linen,etc. Weapons, Runes, etc I have sold at a fair price. No need to be greedy...it is only a game. I enjoy stunning players by being generous. Hopefully it will catch on.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

It's getting silly in pre-searing ascalon now, dozens of people trying to get the noobs to sell them dye for a few gold. I warned the noobs in chat and said these people were scam artists, and one of the scammers called me a liar, because "black only cost at most 200 gold post-searing". LOL!

Corwin_Andros

Corwin_Andros

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

W/E

If you spot a scam or someone doing something blatantly against the Rules of Conduct (i.e. promoting out of game websites, harrassment or abuse of players in towns, illegal activities, etc..) go to Guild Wars Support and file a report.

You will probably have to register with the site, but if something really needs reported then it is worth it.

Spartan2

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

The Intarweb

Wrath of Nature [WoN]

E/Mo

Just had a bad experience with an individual trying to sell a "Gold dye" for 2k. He stated that the dye was Black + Silver + Yellow and that it was a great deal!
Well, when I called him out on it in public chat, things became very interesting. I explained to him that Yellow(150g) + Orange(150g) =! Gold(2,000g) , so he told me that it was the former B+S+Y combination. I then told him Black(3,300g - now 3,700g last time I checked) + Silver(700g) + Yellow(150g) =! Gold(2,000g)
Well the scam turned to whisper spam, so now I have this kid on multiple breaches of the RoC instead of just 1. Reporting this kid as I speak. Just giving everyone a concurrent report on Dye scams as of today: They are still going on. I suggest ANet could have a list underneath the Mixed dyes of what is actually in it, that way these scams are broken and lay dying in a scammer's inventory.

TheIrishman

TheIrishman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Currently: NJ

Wanderers of YS

N/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manderlock
Haha, the old drop trade. Didnt think people were idiotic enough to still try that old as dirt scam.
I pulled a drop scam on someone the other day. The trade window wasnt working, so I asked him to come outside and we would walk about 50 paces from eachother, drop our stuff, then walk to the middle.

Everything worked out fine for me. His inventory was full, so he couldnt get his item. Unfortunately for him, Im a N/W. Sprinted over and grabbed my dye, did a lil dance, then dropped it again. After that, I explained to him "Not everyone is just gonna do a silly dance at your expense, then return the goods. Do Not Trade Goods Out Doors By Dropping. Es un Naughty No No". After a good laugh and a farewell, I discovered that helping the world, one nooby at a time, is not quite as gratifying as I'd hoped.

At least he overpayed. : D

dbgtboy

dbgtboy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

irl

i quit playing

deldrmor steel being sold for over 500g is a scam, they only cost 450 at the material trader in arid sea (1 charcoal = 100g, 10 iron = 100g, 5 dust = 50g, 200 for buying, 450g total)

Valin

Valin

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Order of the Stick

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by dbgtboy
deldrmor steel being sold for over 500g is a scam, they only cost 450 at the material trader in arid sea (1 charcoal = 100g, 10 iron = 100g, 5 dust = 50g, 200 for buying, 450g total)
If you don't know where to get them crafted it's not a scam.

xakia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

not mexico

laaaaa

E/Me

Another scam sort of...

Someone replies to your trade info and offers the amount you asked for it. After its in the window they say, "sorry I thought it was this and that" then offers half the amount for it.

This happens to me every time in LA. I've sold enough there to start remembering the names of these people and have seen them try it on me again and again.

Be stubborn and they'll move on.

Ascended Sleeper

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

///////

[ROFL]

R/Me

They closed down my thread so I copy my case here.
I just had a very unpleasant situation in GW. I met a guy in Ascalon (Bancario Precario) who wanted to sell a sup. vigor rune. I met him at storage and there he shows me the sup. vigor rune, I pay him the offered price (30k) and then he cancels the trade (he refered to it as "lag"), afterwards he opens the trade window again and I accept. When I checked my inventory afterwards I see that he sold me a minor vigor rune instead of a sup. and that I spend all my cash on such rune. I know sure this wasn't his first case of abuse AND CERTAINLY not his last. He doesn't answer the messages I send. I just lost 30k and I "worked" for that a full month or more. Is it possible to do anything about this abuser? I just want my money back from him nothing more.
I tested him out afterwards on my brothers account and he does the exact same thing (you can even test it out yourself), he shows you the rune and then he closes the window ("due to lag") and when the window pops up again, there is a minor vigor rune.
Maybe some of the forum members can talk in to him and convince him to give me my money back (maybe if not 1 but 50 guys talk to him he will listen at last)
I also posted a mail to the GW community email service and also a complain on the GW contact page.
I hope some of you can talk to him and bring him to reason

Thx in advance,
Ascended Sleeper

DavenXion

DavenXion

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Huntsville, AL

Xion Nights

W/N

Not really a scam....taking someone's gold for a good or service that is not needed, or useless, defined that way I guess it could be.

In pre-sear Ascalon, there was a person spamming for 'guide' services. Pay me XX gold and I'll take you here or do this mission with you. I just think of it as a scam because:
1. most missions (especially there) have green arrows and are easy for 1 person.
2. it takes away from people teaming up for a mutual need.
3. who's to say he didn't just take the gold and run?

jdwoody

jdwoody

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Austin

Quote:
I tested him out afterwards on my brothers account and he does the exact same thing (you can even test it out yourself), he shows you the rune and then he closes the window ("due to lag") and when the window pops up again, there is a minor vigor rune.
Try again from your brother's account and give him 30 gold for the minor rune...

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Seriously guys, charging "too much" for something isn't a scam. The seller is free to charge whatever he wants, he doesn't have to sell, and the buyer doesn't have to buy.

Technically preying on noobs in pre-searing, getting them to sell their dye for 10-20 gold, isn't scamming either, but it sure is dishonest.

Bait-and-switch like happened to Ascended Sleeper is a clear scam, and he should report it to anet.

Lasher Dragon

Lasher Dragon

Draconic Rage Incarnate

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Alphahive

R/A

Really, people, check before you accept - Always! Why be in such a hurry? It takes 1 second to hover your mouse cursor over the item in trade! If you then notice that the scammer has switched items, call him out! Make fun of him in the public and/or the trade channel.

I mean, if you were out looking to buy a car, and the salesman showed you a nice lamborghini and told you it's gonna cost you $175k, you are damn sure going to check the invoice to make sure it doesn't say "1974 AMC Pacer" before you sign the deal.

MyNameIsNe0

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

[AK]

E/Mo

Heres a new scam for you guys.

Someone was shouting in Lions Arch selling an "unsalvaged sigil," and charging 50k. He made a PvP char called "A Silver Sigil" so it said "Customized for A Silver Sigil." He tried to make us pay 1/2 up front so be careful

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsNe0
Heres a new scam for you guys.

Someone was shouting in Lions Arch selling an "unsalvaged sigil," and charging 50k. He made a PvP char called "A Silver Sigil" so it said "Customized for A Silver Sigil." He tried to make us pay 1/2 up front so be careful
Not necessarily new, as i believe someone else mentioned something similar the other day regarding a Sigil. I think the name may have changed though.
Can't remember where. May even be in this very thread.

KuTeBaka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

another one is when people take a unid rune, and compare it to a sup of the same type and they try to sell it.

Awol Duteq

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirkiess
Not necessarily new, as i believe someone else mentioned something similar the other day regarding a Sigil. I think the name may have changed though.
Can't remember where. May even be in this very thread.
Same guy up to his old tricks again I presume. Crazyass Mofo by chance?

TChrono90

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

yeah this scamming biz on rpgs are nothing new at all. I remember back in the Diablo 2 days "FREE SOJS MEET IN CHANNEL FOR FREE DUPE OR SOJS" then some guy would ask for a "rare" item and u would give it to him/her and that person would just walk away with it. Of course at the time you couldnt report to game officials because YOU were part of the scam wanted to get a dupe of an item considered "cheating" on most part on the aspect of the game. So obviously that makes you no worse than the person that stole your item
But scamming i have heard of many people getting scammed on channels and public guild chat complaining about his/her loss. of course im not saying you shouldnt be posting this, just that this scamming biz on rpgs have been around since ive been playing Cammy, EQ, and of course diablo 2.

Flee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me/Mo

I registered just to say this.
This is for all the people that made suggestions about modifying the game. i.e. Making text different colours, increasing the size of the trade window, etc...

Modify the game to help protect you from scams? I have a better idea for you...

Don't be lazy and/or stupid and not check items you trade for. The game is designed so that you have to submit, then accept. Once you click accept, the responsibility is 100% yours. No one clicked the accept button but you.

Stop blaming others or suggesting the game be modified....