Is It Possible To Install Guild Wars On Two Computers?
Grimdar
I'm interested in finding out if I can install GW on a second computer at home (same network/ip address) and having someone play at the same time? Or do I have to buy the game again?
decog
Buy again.
-Having it installed on two machines is called piracy.
-The machines do not have the same IP address. They might be on the same network, and your router might have one IP but your two machines have unique IPs designated by your router. You need to buy another game.
EDIT: the above response is what happens when you jump to conclusions...me=Arse on occasion.
-Having it installed on two machines is called piracy.
-The machines do not have the same IP address. They might be on the same network, and your router might have one IP but your two machines have unique IPs designated by your router. You need to buy another game.
EDIT: the above response is what happens when you jump to conclusions...me=Arse on occasion.
Grimdar
Quote:
Originally Posted by decog
Buy again.
-Having it installed on two machines is called piracy. -The machines do not have the same IP address. They might be on the same network, and your router might have one IP but your two machines have unique IPs designated by your router. You need to buy another game. |
Thanks
kalaris
Actually I have it installed on 3 computers, one of them being my laptop, that cannot possibly be considered Priacy, as they are all mine.
And Technically, to the outside they all have the same IP Adress =P
Router 4 Teh win.
But no if someone else tries to log on at the same time you do, with your account you get booted.
And Technically, to the outside they all have the same IP Adress =P
Router 4 Teh win.
But no if someone else tries to log on at the same time you do, with your account you get booted.
decog
semantics lol, sry about that. I'm gonna have to buy another copy myself, sounds like you and I have the same setup.
gluck
.d
gluck
.d
decog
Quote:
Originally Posted by kalaris
Actually I have it installed on 3 computers, one of them being my laptop, that cannot possibly be considered Priacy, as they are all mine.
And Technically, to the outside they all have the same IP Adress =P Router 4 Teh win. |
.d
kalaris
lol damn you're fast, I was editing my post =P
decog
Quote:
Originally Posted by kalaris
lol damn you're fast, I was editing my post =P
|
kalaris
Quote:
Originally Posted by decog
haha, I'd like to think I'm that fast!
|
Yeah we have the same setup, I let my roomie try it out on my laptop before buying it (as we've bought like 4 online games this year alone,) and he kept booting me off so I had to go smack him =P
The good news is if you've already installed it, when you buy another copy of the game you just have to open up the box, scratch off the CD key, and enter it in.
decog
Sweet good to know...although they have made the whole installation thing pretty painless. I looked at WoW and HL2 on my hard drive, both take up like 5+ Gigs...whereas GW takes like under 1gig...that rules.
.d
.d
EnDinG
You can buy a key off of the guild wars site. (The link is somewhere there, too lazy to look right now.)
Saves time, gas, and the chance they might not have any in.
Saves time, gas, and the chance they might not have any in.
kerpow
I wouldn't worry about piracy of the client too much since anyone can freely download the client without ever paying a penny.
http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html
Section 3 says that you pay for the "license to use the Software in connection with the Service" on an individual basis.
Basically, installing Guild Wars on several computers is okay. Letting multiple people share the same Guild Wars account is bad.
http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html
Section 3 says that you pay for the "license to use the Software in connection with the Service" on an individual basis.
Basically, installing Guild Wars on several computers is okay. Letting multiple people share the same Guild Wars account is bad.
Zogger
So I can install GW on my girlfriend's computer and play it while I'm at her place?
igormak
yup, you can
shazbawt
Most ppl never even touched the cds that came with the game and just entered the code.
Old Dood
We first bought ONE game. Then we found out we both can play a character but not at the same time. So I bought another game. No biggie. The point to having this game was so my daughter and I can play together. However, if we go over to a friends house that has this game installed it is nice to be able to just log in on your own account and play your character. That is not stealing. That is just plain smart. My Friend bought the game, I bought two games. I think Arenanet made thier money off us. It was a Fair Trade at the Merchant's Corner.
against
could i make a character on my account with a different cdkey to get say...an ithas bow, then switch back to my cdkey that has canthan targe?
Algren Cole
Quote:
Originally Posted by decog
Buy again.
-Having it installed on two machines is called piracy. -The machines do not have the same IP address. They might be on the same network, and your router might have one IP but your two machines have unique IPs designated by your router. You need to buy another game. EDIT: the above response is what happens when you jump to conclusions...me=Arse on occasion. |
that's not entirely true...you can spoof IP addresses so that two machines have the same internal and external IP address...and accept information coming in on mirror ports...according to the internet the two machines would appear to be one.....though I doubt you could get GW to funtion properly without some serious port forward scripting and UPnP.
Lorelei
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zogger
So I can install GW on my girlfriend's computer and play it while I'm at her place?
|
Lorelei
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Warrior Dood
We first bought ONE game. Then we found out we both can play a character but not at the same time. So I bought another game. No biggie. The point to having this game was so my daughter and I can play together. However, if we go over to a friends house that has this game installed it is nice to be able to just log in on your own account and play your character. That is not stealing. That is just plain smart. My Friend bought the game, I bought two games. I think Arenanet made thier money off us. It was a Fair Trade at the Merchant's Corner.
|
Even you can install the client in as many machine as you like. Just like MSN, you install it multiple times, but have only 1 account. No violation. It is actually said in the manual: you can play anywhere there is an internet connection and able to install the client.
Now, the EULA forbid sharing of account. All four characters are under one account. It is a violation of EULA to play with one character and allow another person to play a second character using the same account.
samarium
Quote:
It is a violation of EULA to play with one character and allow another person to play a second character using the same account. |
Don't worry too much about that section of the EULA. I don't think they'd really enforce it even if they DID know - I mean, think about it: They'd LIKE double money, but if they kill your account, they get no money at all. Very counterproductive, especially considering they rely on your satisfaction in order to make their money.
-sam
Accolon Pendragon
I was reading this topic and with all the playing here, there and elsewhere a question came to mind.
Where is the file with all the character info, stats and whatnot stored? It seems to me that this kind of information is stored on their servers but I would like to confirm it.
Where is the file with all the character info, stats and whatnot stored? It seems to me that this kind of information is stored on their servers but I would like to confirm it.
Numa Pompilius
1) Installing the game on two computers is NOT piracy. Guildwars is account-based, you can install it on as many computers as you like, because you'll only be able to play on one computer at a time. In fact the guild wars client is specifically designed to make it easy to move the game installation between computers. Installing on your GF's computer and playing on it when you're there is legal & AFAIK in accordance with Arena Nets intentions.
However, because you only have one account, guildwars will only let you play on one computer at a time. If you try to play on two computers at the same time, Guildwars will simply terminate the connection to the first one when you log in with the second (and tell you it has done so).
2) Your computers IP is completely irrelevant. What's important is your account name and password, because that's what your CD key is tied to, not your computer.
3) Arena Net apparently views the account as personal, ie you can play on it but noone else. That said, I don't think they'd care much if you let your friend play when you didn't, though you had better be very certain that friend will not steal your account or give out your account name and password to other people.
4) All the stats & info about your characters is stored on Arena Nets servers. This is a security precaution to make the game harder to hack.
However, because you only have one account, guildwars will only let you play on one computer at a time. If you try to play on two computers at the same time, Guildwars will simply terminate the connection to the first one when you log in with the second (and tell you it has done so).
2) Your computers IP is completely irrelevant. What's important is your account name and password, because that's what your CD key is tied to, not your computer.
3) Arena Net apparently views the account as personal, ie you can play on it but noone else. That said, I don't think they'd care much if you let your friend play when you didn't, though you had better be very certain that friend will not steal your account or give out your account name and password to other people.
4) All the stats & info about your characters is stored on Arena Nets servers. This is a security precaution to make the game harder to hack.
Sanity
Quote:
Originally Posted by EnDinG
You can buy a key off of the guild wars site. (The link is somewhere there, too lazy to look right now.)
|
Can you find that link? I've been trying to buy a key so my brother and i can play together. That would help a lot.
EternalTempest
I would install from the cd's. Saves you a large amount of downloading of the game while playing it and when it's done, everytime you go to a new zone, more downloads.
I tried looking for the key to buy directly abd having trouble finding it. It may be throught the client itself but not sure of that either.
I tried looking for the key to buy directly abd having trouble finding it. It may be throught the client itself but not sure of that either.
Kamatsu
Here's the link to the site where you can purchase GW key's online w/o needing to buy another box:
http://www.plaync.com/store/gw_purchase.html
http://www.plaync.com/store/gw_purchase.html
Pale White Cracker
Usually online games won't let you run the programs at the same time anyways. If you don't plan to play them at the same time then why not install them on two different computers? Is there really anything stopping you?
SOT
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimdar
I'm interested in finding out if I can install GW on a second computer at home (same network/ip address) and having someone play at the same time? Or do I have to buy the game again?
|
Anyway, my point is, you can install the game on as many machines as you want, but like the post right beneath your initial one, you need a copy of the game legally bought per machine. It is called a end-user license. And that means one copy of the game or "software" per machine. I can access my account on GW from his installed copy, but it has to be installed from a legit cd or client grab from the site.
Numa Pompilius
Quote:
Originally Posted by SOT
Anyway, my point is, you can install the game on as many machines as you want, but like the post right beneath your initial one, you need a copy of the game legally bought per machine.
|
If you let a friend use your account while you're not playing, then you're breaking the EULA, as your account is personal. As I've said, I doubt ANet cares much about this type of violation.
Pale White Cracker
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
No, you don't. Your account is personal, so as long as it is only you playing it doesn't matter which machine you do it on. You can install it on 100 computers if you want - you can only log in and play with one of them at a time, so as long as it is you playing there's no violation of copyright or EULA.
If you let a friend use your account while you're not playing, then you're breaking the EULA, as your account is personal. As I've said, I doubt ANet cares much about this type of violation. |
Omega_2005
You CAN install it on another computer, and use the same account, but you CANNOT add new accounts or double-play (using 2 characters from one account on different computers at the same time), as you need an additional CD-key or game to play it on. And yes, SOME people actually use their characters per person on a single account (one person plays this character and another uses his character).
Numa Pompilius
Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega_2005
You CAN install it on another computer
|
Quote:
and use the same account |
Quote:
but you CANNOT add new accounts or double-play (using 2 characters from one account on different computers at the same time) |
Quote:
, as you need an additional CD-key or game to play it on. And yes, SOME people actually use their characters per person on a single account (one person plays this character and another uses his character). |
Try it, I did by mistake when I forgot to log out of my own computer and then showed Guildwars to a friend - the game informed me that the account was already in use and that it would disconnect my home computer, and then let me play from my friends computer.
The fact that only one person can be logged on to one account at any given time is why I don't think ANet cares very much about people sharing accounts, even though it is a violation of the EULA. They'd probably slap your fingers if they got told you shared your account, but they got bigger problems in the form of botters, hackers, and people stealing accounts through keyloggers.
rambis
Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
that's not entirely true...you can spoof IP addresses so that two machines have the same internal and external IP address...and accept information coming in on mirror ports...according to the internet the two machines would appear to be one.....though I doubt you could get GW to funtion properly without some serious port forward scripting and UPnP.
|
Now... if you want to talk about spoofing a MAC address, thats a completely different story, but would end in a much similar result. Don't mean to be rude about this reply or anything, but i would hate to see incorrect information get distributed in a technical forum.
terminalpariah
Hi everybody,
I've seen some posts in this thread talking about port forwarding and other fun activities.
Well, we had a mini Guild Wars "LAN party" last weekend. Just three of us behind one router, all with our own machines/accounts. Everything worked flawlessly.
I've seen some posts in this thread talking about port forwarding and other fun activities.
Well, we had a mini Guild Wars "LAN party" last weekend. Just three of us behind one router, all with our own machines/accounts. Everything worked flawlessly.
Algren Cole
Quote:
Originally Posted by rambis
Uhhh... no, you cannot have two machines on the same network with the same IP... trying to do that would stop you dead at your router. When any computer talks to a router (i.e. a DSL or Cable modem router) the mac address for that machine is registered in the ARP tables of the router. This registration identifies exactly where your machine is on the network. Trying to bring up another machine with the same IP on the same local network would essentially be ignored by that router. (i.e. the first one up gets the connection).
Now... if you want to talk about spoofing a MAC address, thats a completely different story, but would end in a much similar result. Don't mean to be rude about this reply or anything, but i would hate to see incorrect information get distributed in a technical forum. |
I'd hate to see it done as well...which is why you should do some research before you comment.
http://www.leg.uct.ac.za/mirrors/LDP.../IP-Alias.html
the link above will give you a brief introduction on IP Aliasing....or as it's commonly refered to IP Spoofing. Basically it allows you to assign multiple IP addresses to a single NIC...and yes you can Alias an IP address that is already connected to a router, then refer to that IP when making outgoing connections...essentially creating two machines using the same IP address.
Numa Pompilius
Terminalpariah: yes of course you can play when you've all three got different accounts.
Algren Cole: assigning a fake IP to your machine doesn't really help, as you can't assign the _SAME_ IP to different machines and use them all at once, and even if you could, you couldn't play different chars in GW. Spoofing IP wont magically get the server to let you run several instances on one GW account.
Algren Cole: assigning a fake IP to your machine doesn't really help, as you can't assign the _SAME_ IP to different machines and use them all at once, and even if you could, you couldn't play different chars in GW. Spoofing IP wont magically get the server to let you run several instances on one GW account.
Algren Cole
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Terminalpariah: yes of course you can play when you've all three got different accounts.
Algren Cole: assigning a fake IP to your machine doesn't really help, as you can't assign the _SAME_ IP to different machines and use them all at once, and even if you could, you couldn't play different chars in GW. Spoofing IP wont magically get the server to let you run several instances on one GW account. |
wow...even when I link you to the relevant information you still can't even read....
IP Aliasing allows you to assign multiple IPs to a single NIC.. you assign IP1 to the first NIC then you assign IP 1 & IP 2 to the second NIC. You have the outbound go out on the IP1 alias for the second NIC programmed to re-route back to IP2 for the second NIC. You then connect to your router(both machines appear to have the same IP)...this would allow you to log into and run GW on two seperate machines....what side-effects it would have I don't know...though I'm sure whatever you did on one machine would be mimicked on the second. No it wouldnt allow you to "play" on two machines...it would however allow you to log in on two machines and be in-game on two machines(though I'm sure due to server side checking you'd only be able to play on one character and that character would only be instanced once in-game...both machines would be able to control that character). Though that really didn't have anything to do with my original post...as my original post was specific to the poster that said computers on a network can't share an IP address....when in reality they very much can.
jedispiderman
i dont know
Numa Pompilius
Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
wow...even when I link you to the relevant information you still can't even read....
IP Aliasing allows you to assign multiple IPs to a single NIC.. you assign IP1 to the first NIC then you assign IP 1 & IP 2 to the second NIC. You have the outbound go out on the IP1 alias for the second NIC programmed to re-route back to IP2 for the second NIC. You then connect to your router(both machines appear to have the same IP)...this would allow you to log into and run GW on two seperate machines.... |
It doesn't matter what your IP is; even if you trick the server that two computers are the same computer (have the same IP), that only means that both computers can send commands to ONE CHAR. It does not give you access to your other chars.
You can not party with more than one of your chars at the same time by spoofing your IP.
If you don't believe me, feel free to try.
Algren Cole
Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
No, YOU still don't get it. You can't log in more than once to your account, therefore you can't run different chars at the same time!
It doesn't matter what your IP is; even if you trick the server that two computers are the same computer (have the same IP), that only means that both computers can send commands to ONE CHAR. It does not give you access to your other chars. You can not party with more than one of your chars at the same time by spoofing your IP. If you don't believe me, feel free to try. |
you should probably take up classes on reading comprehension...as that's exactly what I said. My reply was in reference to someone saying "two comptuers on the same LAN can't share an IP"...and they can. That's all I was pointing out.
BTW: if you were splitting an IP via IP-Aliasing and switched it up so that bot the NICs were sending out on seperate IPs but accepting in on the same IP...you'd be able to log into ONE GW account on two machines. As soon as you logged in on one it would force a login on the other as the login packets would be mirrored to the second machine.