Remember also that skill changes are happening all the time, and right now those changes are often considered leaks. Stone Daggers is one of those cases, as is the elite status of Marksman's Wager. Those particular tidbits might be perfectly ok, and they might not be. The point is that our admins can't just hop in game and check a skill for you like they could a month ago. Now skill updates are done during BWEs, and from questionable leaks. You don't have to like that policy, but that's what Gaile has decreed, and since people with original access to the information are under NDA we don't have a choice in this matter.
Basically, just look at the skill lists to get a general idea of what a skill does, but don't trust the numbers, because they very well could have changed but no one can tell you.
Peace,
-CxE
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I think a great additon would to put
"The release date is "Early 2005"! Any other dates are guesses"
In big, bold, rainbow-y, size 72, flashing letters.
... you know someones going to ask sooner or later. and then you can go "woohoo! our site is prospering! Even people that are asking about the release date know about it!"
"The release date is "Early 2005"! Any other dates are guesses"
In big, bold, rainbow-y, size 72, flashing letters.
... you know someones going to ask sooner or later. and then you can go "woohoo! our site is prospering! Even people that are asking about the release date know about it!"T
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Fie. I take it that wondering what the NDA looks like is even a no-no.
Ah well, I suppose that compiling said list and tossing up in two weeks is acceptable too. Though you've already likely compiled the list. Hrm. *dig* *dig* Is it even possible to say whether such a list is already compiled? [And save myself the foraging about for data during the BWE]
~Kui
Ah well, I suppose that compiling said list and tossing up in two weeks is acceptable too. Though you've already likely compiled the list. Hrm. *dig* *dig* Is it even possible to say whether such a list is already compiled? [And save myself the foraging about for data during the BWE]
~Kui
It is just so hard to talk about *anything* at the moment. So many posts I think "if only they knew" or "gee it's a shame they don't know that it's pointless to argue about that" or "wow that guess was right on target". I've edited many posts due to getting worried - I've even posted something, switched off the computer, gone to bed, gotten worried, gotten back up and edited my post.
One thing I will say is that I get more and more impressed with the art department as the weeks go by.
One thing I will say is that I get more and more impressed with the art department as the weeks go by.
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Fie. I take it that wondering what the NDA looks like is even a no-no.
The NDA looks like a sheet of paper with some words on it and your signature at the bottom. It's nothing really unusual, it's just a matter of how it's interpreted, really. In the past it was okay to talk about nearly *everything*. Then, when the content for the BWEs was introduced you couldn't "spoil" things by talking about them beforehand. Then, when content outside the BWEs was introduced you couldn't talk about that. Now, it's very difficult to talk about any concrete details from within the game so much so that we won't. Including what it is we can and can't talk about because people might be able to piece something together from a list of dos and don'ts.
Quote: Originally Posted by Kui Ah well, I suppose that compiling said list and tossing up in two weeks is acceptable too. Though you've already likely compiled the list. Hrm. *dig* *dig* Is it even possible to say whether such a list is already compiled? [And save myself the foraging about for data during the BWE] We're in the process of compiling a list. We're probably also going to have to recruit "volunteers" to help us out with the gathering of data because of how much their likely is. But, in general there are a few things we're going to want :
Screenshots. The more the better of everything and anything that might be useful. Skills. We'll want to try and track down every skill and get the most current information about it as well as the graphical icon (At least, I'm sure a few of us wouldn't mind seeing a few casting animations for one project or another). Armor. We'll want to try and track down every set of armor as well as a picture of the male and female sets (Fortunately, most armors don't change as you level so you just need the 2 times the 30 odd lv20 armors, for the most part and you can reuse things). Pictures of how dyes affect armor would be nice to have, too. Areas. We'll want to find out the relevant information about all the publically available areas as well as try and get screenshots of what they look like, what the maps look like, and probably even a world map, as well. Monsters. We'll want to try and track down as many monsters as we can to see if our information is up to date and to try and get a picture of them. Runes. We'll want to try and track down as many runes as possible so we can get pictures and see if our information is still accurate. Weapons. We'll want an example of each weapon "type" (Ie the long sword, the short sword, the scimitar, whatever the sword category breaks down into) for the images and probably a lot of them to see if they have any interesting wrinkles (do long swords average more damage than scimitars but have a different chance for mods? Who knows? But we'd like to.) as well as what sort of additional benefits you can get from mods and upgrades so we can compile a list of those. Salvage Items. We'll want pictures and info about all the coal and iron and wood and whatever else there is. We'd also like to know the chances of an item salvaging into a specific salvaged item. Equations. We'd like to test out our understanding of the damage equations and other formula like Fast Casting or Expertise's progression or how a height advantage affects your bow shot or whether enchantments are FIFO or LIFO and lots of other small but important details.
That's a lot of things - and I'm sure the list will only grow - and we'd *like* to get to all of them but we'd like to play the game and have fun, too. The BWEs are a blast for us alphas, too, you know. And there's only so many of us, there's only so much we can do. We've been busy launching and all so we haven't had much thought devoted to it just yet (we're more concerned with what we can do just now and in-between the BWEs to provide content and interesting things) but as the BWE draws nearer we'll likely draw up a list and prioritize and start asking who wants to do what. Anyone who'd like to help us out is more than welcome to, of course.
Quote: Originally Posted by Kui Ah well, I suppose that compiling said list and tossing up in two weeks is acceptable too. Though you've already likely compiled the list. Hrm. *dig* *dig* Is it even possible to say whether such a list is already compiled? [And save myself the foraging about for data during the BWE] We're in the process of compiling a list. We're probably also going to have to recruit "volunteers" to help us out with the gathering of data because of how much their likely is. But, in general there are a few things we're going to want :
Screenshots. The more the better of everything and anything that might be useful. Skills. We'll want to try and track down every skill and get the most current information about it as well as the graphical icon (At least, I'm sure a few of us wouldn't mind seeing a few casting animations for one project or another). Armor. We'll want to try and track down every set of armor as well as a picture of the male and female sets (Fortunately, most armors don't change as you level so you just need the 2 times the 30 odd lv20 armors, for the most part and you can reuse things). Pictures of how dyes affect armor would be nice to have, too. Areas. We'll want to find out the relevant information about all the publically available areas as well as try and get screenshots of what they look like, what the maps look like, and probably even a world map, as well. Monsters. We'll want to try and track down as many monsters as we can to see if our information is up to date and to try and get a picture of them. Runes. We'll want to try and track down as many runes as possible so we can get pictures and see if our information is still accurate. Weapons. We'll want an example of each weapon "type" (Ie the long sword, the short sword, the scimitar, whatever the sword category breaks down into) for the images and probably a lot of them to see if they have any interesting wrinkles (do long swords average more damage than scimitars but have a different chance for mods? Who knows? But we'd like to.) as well as what sort of additional benefits you can get from mods and upgrades so we can compile a list of those. Salvage Items. We'll want pictures and info about all the coal and iron and wood and whatever else there is. We'd also like to know the chances of an item salvaging into a specific salvaged item. Equations. We'd like to test out our understanding of the damage equations and other formula like Fast Casting or Expertise's progression or how a height advantage affects your bow shot or whether enchantments are FIFO or LIFO and lots of other small but important details.
That's a lot of things - and I'm sure the list will only grow - and we'd *like* to get to all of them but we'd like to play the game and have fun, too. The BWEs are a blast for us alphas, too, you know. And there's only so many of us, there's only so much we can do. We've been busy launching and all so we haven't had much thought devoted to it just yet (we're more concerned with what we can do just now and in-between the BWEs to provide content and interesting things) but as the BWE draws nearer we'll likely draw up a list and prioritize and start asking who wants to do what. Anyone who'd like to help us out is more than welcome to, of course.
I'd like to see more Kitty Ears around the place- really, Spooky, I expected better of you.
Um, just something to be really lazy- if you could have a link in the bosses' pages from the skills they have to the page about that skill, that would save me the trouble- oh the pain! The agony!- of opening another tab and going through the skills listings.
Just a suggestion if you want to appeal to the truly lazy.
Oh, and nice spot y'all have around here.
Um, just something to be really lazy- if you could have a link in the bosses' pages from the skills they have to the page about that skill, that would save me the trouble- oh the pain! The agony!- of opening another tab and going through the skills listings.
Just a suggestion if you want to appeal to the truly lazy.
Oh, and nice spot y'all have around here.
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We're in the process of compiling a list. We're probably also going to have to recruit "volunteers" to help us out with the gathering of data because of how much their likely is.
I'm sure it goes without saying, but I favor redundancy whenever it doesn't hurt - Post said list when it's all hashed out. I'll be mining information when the BWE rolls around on my own and I'd be pleased to contribute my findings. Suppose I'll work on those already posted for now.
~Kui
~Kui
About posting weapon modifiers - I've got a bunch of these, and I believe Freyas has an even more comprehensive listing of them available, we just need to wait until the BWE to double check that our information is still accurate before we can add them.
About bosses / skills - all of their seperate, more detailed pages should include links to the skills they use. Are some of these missing? If so, it won't take much to get them fixed.
About bosses / skills - all of their seperate, more detailed pages should include links to the skills they use. Are some of these missing? If so, it won't take much to get them fixed.


