My monk needed a run threw thristy river so I get in a group with these 2 warriors. One does the killing while the other one stays with the group and baby sits them and tells us to stay still. This runner was running for 5k. I acted before we started if i could pay with a ecto. Anyways when he got down to the last boss we all had to pay. I got to pay with my ecto that is worth 7k and Im suppose to get 2k back because the run is only 5k. Well he wouldn't take it from me so I got fed up with him trying to scam me. So i got my cap and left because his service was stupid.
Once I got back to Thristy River. I got whispers from him and his buddy saying I was the scammer. I soon put them both on my ignore list, and got another runner that got me threw the mission and i paid him my 1 ecto and he gave me 2k back.
Thristy River run turned bad....
toon-a-loon
knight kt
im srry u scamed me and that u dont think u did but dont use my service to cap your skills with out paying and i wont call u a scammer
btw nice call by cuttin out what was said in some of it very very nice job love the edit work
btw nice call by cuttin out what was said in some of it very very nice job love the edit work
Saphatorael
This looks to one huge misunderstanding to me. Moose couldn't pay upfront but was able to pay with an ecto, in return for 2k gold (simple math: 7-5=2!).
IMHO, the runners just didn't understand what Moose was trying to do, and didn't know how to respond to his offer.
Also, if you promise a run, then a run is what he's paying for. Anything done during the run is dependent on the person being run, he can kill all monsters he wants for all i know, but that's NOT what he's paying for.
Therefore, no one has been scammed, no one should be reported, and this issue should just be left alone. Moose got his run, the runners should realise they need to study their maths more.
End of discussion.
IMHO, the runners just didn't understand what Moose was trying to do, and didn't know how to respond to his offer.
Also, if you promise a run, then a run is what he's paying for. Anything done during the run is dependent on the person being run, he can kill all monsters he wants for all i know, but that's NOT what he's paying for.
Therefore, no one has been scammed, no one should be reported, and this issue should just be left alone. Moose got his run, the runners should realise they need to study their maths more.
End of discussion.
knight kt
well as i said she should not have used me to cap her skill if she was just goin to run off caping skills is part of the run and part of the payment and the payment was set as 1 ecto nothing else
Slainster
I dont see the problem here.. all the runs ive been on, peopl do their own thing, we pay for the RUN, not to be told we can't farm, cap skills etc etc.. do what you are paid to do, and leave the payers alone, without them you wouldnt be running anyway!
jmj102
Knight, listen very closely. Price of run = 5k, Ecto = 7k.
By you wanting the ecto which is worth 7k, 2k more than the price of the run meant you were trying to "scam" 2k from him. I don't see why you couldn't just give him the 2k and then sell the ecto for 7k.
By you wanting the ecto which is worth 7k, 2k more than the price of the run meant you were trying to "scam" 2k from him. I don't see why you couldn't just give him the 2k and then sell the ecto for 7k.
TheMadKingGeorge
the runner was greedy he couldnt take his ecto and give him 2k back the guy who wanted to be ran did that right thing. the runner thought yeah 7k but realised he was only gettting five the greedy bastard
TheMadKingGeorge
he capped so what you didnt finish mission so you expect him to pay 7k for a shitty skill
Saphatorael
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well as i said she should not have used me to cap her skill if she was just goin to run off caping skills is part of the run and part of the payment and the payment was set as 1 ecto nothing else
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Look... compare the run with a contract.
Your contract offered a run through the mission (finishing the mission by completing the OBJECTIVES).
Moose accepted these terms for 5k.
Just like in a store, when you buy something that costs 18 dollars, but the client pays 20 dollars, then 2 dollars will be refunded.
You didn't want to refund.
And saying that the capture of the skill was part of the run was NOT in the contract that was made on forehand.
So basically you never ran him through the mission (objectives weren't completed), and you shouldn't get paid for anything, as you were the person that made the contract. (Use 'small letters' in your contract next time if you intend to ask gold for a skill cap, or something.)
TheMadKingGeorge
oooh and btw if you have a movie or a screen shot liek you say in there why dont you post them or is that a lie
Azurewrath
No, this wasn't a misunderstanding, this was Super Moose's retarded attempt at framing us. Before the run was started, he asked if he could pay with an ecto, and never made mention of the ecto in exchange for 2k. So, when we get into the run, it came time for payment and he starts asking for 2k in return. If you tell us that you're paying an ecto before the run starts, don't start springing things on us when we're right in the middle of it. I realize that people pay 7k for ectos, and that our run is 5k, but if you expect 2k in return, at least tell us first.
Some of you may see through a different eye than what we did, but we were under the impression that we were receiving an ecto for payment. If he would've said that he wanted 2k in return at the beginning, I'm sure it would've been different.
I applaud you Super for your attempt at making us out to be thieves, but you didn't quite get it. How immature do you get to be a liar? Though it's your word against ours, you've faked your pictures horribly.
Moose never received his run, he never paid his ecto, he just left the game. My cousin and I prefer to have the people that are being run to remain out of sight; it's a privacy thing. Not so much as to conceal our build, it's already available on the internet for Christ's sake, but moreso to just have full control of the situation at hand. Opinions may conflict, and that's fine and well, but it's how we prefer things to be. We tell our people ahead of time and they all agree, so our aggravation when they deviate from that should be expected.
Some of you may see through a different eye than what we did, but we were under the impression that we were receiving an ecto for payment. If he would've said that he wanted 2k in return at the beginning, I'm sure it would've been different.
I applaud you Super for your attempt at making us out to be thieves, but you didn't quite get it. How immature do you get to be a liar? Though it's your word against ours, you've faked your pictures horribly.
Moose never received his run, he never paid his ecto, he just left the game. My cousin and I prefer to have the people that are being run to remain out of sight; it's a privacy thing. Not so much as to conceal our build, it's already available on the internet for Christ's sake, but moreso to just have full control of the situation at hand. Opinions may conflict, and that's fine and well, but it's how we prefer things to be. We tell our people ahead of time and they all agree, so our aggravation when they deviate from that should be expected.
The Herbalizer
Why should she pay more? She should not.
The charge everyone else paid was 5k why should she pay 2k more? She shouldnt.
You and your partner should have given him/her 2k back but you didnt.
The op wont get banned because the pair of people doing this were incompetant idiots to be perfectly honest.
The op was WANTING to pay exactly what they were charging everyone else but the runners/rushers thought they could scare the op into paying 2k more as they knew he/she could not pay the 5k and only had one ecto.
There is no scam because the rushers were being idiots and would not give 2k over. They set out to complete the mission not help people cap skills. The op left as they were being arses and would not stick to the agreement. The op did not receive the agreed service which was completing thirsty river.
Anet wont ban. The op you did the right thing by leaving although capping the skill is questionable. The person saying they did the mission, you wasted your own time from being a complete idiot. Everyone paid 5k so why the hell are you making someone pay 7k. The answer is you knew they could only pay by the ecto and you could force them into paying 2k more through threats of reporting them.
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Wow you are clearly lacking intelligence or something? WHY THE HELL SHOULD THE OP PAY 2K MORE THAN EVERYONE ELSE IN THE PARTY? There is no reason why other than you were trying to force him into paying more through threats of reporting him.
Ectos take no time to sell its not like you spend hours spamming to sell them. 5k is actually a pretty nice price. What do you want people to do it for 1k as you said 5k is WAY too much?
The charge everyone else paid was 5k why should she pay 2k more? She shouldnt.
You and your partner should have given him/her 2k back but you didnt.
The op wont get banned because the pair of people doing this were incompetant idiots to be perfectly honest.
The op was WANTING to pay exactly what they were charging everyone else but the runners/rushers thought they could scare the op into paying 2k more as they knew he/she could not pay the 5k and only had one ecto.
There is no scam because the rushers were being idiots and would not give 2k over. They set out to complete the mission not help people cap skills. The op left as they were being arses and would not stick to the agreement. The op did not receive the agreed service which was completing thirsty river.
Anet wont ban. The op you did the right thing by leaving although capping the skill is questionable. The person saying they did the mission, you wasted your own time from being a complete idiot. Everyone paid 5k so why the hell are you making someone pay 7k. The answer is you knew they could only pay by the ecto and you could force them into paying 2k more through threats of reporting them.
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No, this wasn't a misunderstanding, this was Super Moose's retarded attempt at framing us. Before the run was started, he asked if he could pay with an ecto, and never made mention of the ecto in exchange for 2k. So, when we get into the run, it came time for payment and he starts asking for 2k in return. If you tell us that you're paying an ecto before the run starts, don't start springing things on us when we're right in the middle of it. I realize that people pay 7k for ectos, and that our run is 5k, but if you expect 2k in return, at least tell us first.
Some of you may see through a different eye than what we did, but we were under the impression that we were receiving an ecto for payment. If he would've said that he wanted 2k in return at the beginning, I'm sure it would've been different. I applaud you Super for your attempt at making us out to be thieves, but you didn't quite get it. How immature do you get to be a liar? Though it's your word against ours, you've faked your pictures horribly. Moose never received his run, he never paid his ecto, he just left the game. My cousin and I prefer to have the people that are being run to remain out of sight; it's a privacy thing. Not so much as to conceal our build, it's already available on the internet for Christ's sake, but moreso to just have full control of the situation at hand. Opinions may conflict, and that's fine and well, but it's how we prefer things to be. We tell our people ahead of time and they all agree, so our aggravation when they deviate from that should be expected. |
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TBH if the OP hasnt got 5k to pay the runner (BTW waaaay overpriced run) he shouldnt ask for 2k back because the runner will have to go to all the trouble of selling the ecto.
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Tingi
TBH if the OP hasnt got 5k to pay the runner (BTW waaaay overpriced run) he shouldnt ask for 2k back because the runner will have to go to all the trouble of selling the ecto.
knight kt
wow your frineds must love u owell dont matter to me what u guys think ya scamed me by usin me as a way to cap your skill im srry u scammed me
RTSFirebat
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wow your frineds must love u owell dont matter to me what u guys think ya scamed me by usin me as a way to cap your skill im srry u scammed me
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Ok look Knight are you really not reading what everyone is saying or what?
1 Ecto = 7K (Appox)
Your Run was at a cost of 5K - Which was agreed
Super asked if he could pay with an Ecto... which you agreed.
And now the simple maths..
7K - 5K = 2K Remaining
All you had to do was give him 2K change... how is that hard to understand?
He was not trying to scam you... all he wanted was 2K change, which was his right to have!
The 5K was to run through the Mission. Capping was not dicussed in the agreement. If only you gave that 2K change lol
The Herbalizer
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wow your frineds must love u owell dont matter to me what u guys think ya scamed me by usin me as a way to cap your skill im srry u scammed me
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Mission rushing?
Or
Skill capping?
You messed up when it came to the payment. Only you and your partner are to blame. The op was more than willing to pay the 5k price everyone else paid. He did not scam you as skill capping is not mission rushing.
Capping a skill does not get the mission done. You wasted his time. You could have easily gave him 2k and would have got the 5k payment from him. You did not attempt to haggle in the slightest maybe 1.5k due to ecto prices changing. Making him pay 7k while everyone pays 5k is outrageous.
You have only yourself to blame. There would be no problem if you tried to come to some kind of arrangement.
knight kt
The 5K was to run through the Mission. Capping was not dicussed in the agreement. If only you gave that 2K change lol[/QUOTE]
capping was dicussed in the agreement but payin 2k to her for the ecto was not mine and her agreement was she would pay with a ecto that was all get your facts strait
capping was dicussed in the agreement but payin 2k to her for the ecto was not mine and her agreement was she would pay with a ecto that was all get your facts strait
The Herbalizer
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capping was dicussed in the agreement but payin 2k to her for the ecto was not mine and her agreement was she would pay with a ecto that was all get your facts strait
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O now after people mentioning it capping was discussed
I have done thirsty river mission rushers absolutely tons of times and not once have I ever mentioned capping. I offer a mission rush not a skill capping service.
Dr Strangelove
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The 5K was to run through the Mission. Capping was not dicussed in the agreement. If only you gave that 2K change lol
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Price of run: 5k
Offered item to pay for run: 1 glob of ectoplasm
Estimated value of said item: 7k
Difference between said item and cost of run = 7k-5k = 2k
Please explain why this was worth creating so much drama over. If you had just taken the ecto and given 2k you would have 5k more, moose would have his run, you woulnd't have made an idiot out of yourself on the forums, and lfie would go on quite merrily.
knight kt
lol i do tho
payment was 1 ecto not 1 ecto and i give 2k back caping is part of the 5k that was the agreement i run a mission/ caping service so where is my payment for caping the skill did not get one.
payment was 1 ecto not 1 ecto and i give 2k back caping is part of the 5k that was the agreement i run a mission/ caping service so where is my payment for caping the skill did not get one.
Dr Strangelove
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lol i do tho
payment was 1 ecto not 1 ecto and i give 2k back caping is part of the 5k that was the agreement i run a mission/ caping service so where is my payment for caping the skill did not get one. |
Suggested trade spam: Rushing mission, 5k +2k for every cap sig you have on your bar.
The Herbalizer
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lol i do tho
payment was 1 ecto not 1 ecto and i give 2k back caping is part of the 5k that was the agreement i run a mission/ caping service so where is my payment for caping the skill did not get one. |
baz777
Why pay at all? 
It's an easy mission!
It's an easy mission!
TheMadKingGeorge
noones agreeing with the runners i like it i like it
knight kt
lol wow i love how u guys just type and type rofl owell i dont even care the movie and ss are gone its over done dead and im laughin so hard dont tell me your goin to give me a ecto for payment then turn around and say well i want 2k back and then dont cap your skill witch is part of the 5k payment and leave with out even payin anything she scamed me im srry u her friends dont see it idc if anet says anything ill just tell them to for get about it god these posts are flipin great ahahahahahaha best laugh all night
paradoxz
All I have to say to most of you is BULLSHIT!!
We all know that when you dont have gold/platinum and you really want a service, you tend to exchange an item of the service. Hell, I've done it tons of times. In these instances the item, in this case an ecto, is valued at the cost of the run. So, for all you RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing MATH GENIUSES that seem to want to post your great arguements that 7k-5k=2k, well....
Run=5k
I offer an ecto in exchange for said run. Nothing mentioned about getting any money in return. Just that I'll give him an ecto for the run. This means that I just valued the ecto in question @ 5k.
so....Ecto=5k
now, if the Run=5k and Ecto=5k seems like an even trade to me.
Also, since it was not determined that the Runner would basically BUY an ecto, its a little unfair for the person requesting the service to FORCE a price on him. Since the value of the ECTO was not predetermined, other than in a general sense that it would be offered in trade for the run, and the runner was charging everyone else 5k....seems to me that the RUNNERS were in the right here, not the moron that was attempting to FORCE his price for ecto on the runner.
I mean, come on, what if I said, nah....I think ecto is only worth 6.5k because thats all you could sell it to the trader for? Sure, someone, somewhere is probably more than willing to pay 7k for it, but that person might not be me. Its just plain rude for the person to DEMAND 2k back.
We all know that when you dont have gold/platinum and you really want a service, you tend to exchange an item of the service. Hell, I've done it tons of times. In these instances the item, in this case an ecto, is valued at the cost of the run. So, for all you RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing MATH GENIUSES that seem to want to post your great arguements that 7k-5k=2k, well....
Run=5k
I offer an ecto in exchange for said run. Nothing mentioned about getting any money in return. Just that I'll give him an ecto for the run. This means that I just valued the ecto in question @ 5k.
so....Ecto=5k
now, if the Run=5k and Ecto=5k seems like an even trade to me.
Also, since it was not determined that the Runner would basically BUY an ecto, its a little unfair for the person requesting the service to FORCE a price on him. Since the value of the ECTO was not predetermined, other than in a general sense that it would be offered in trade for the run, and the runner was charging everyone else 5k....seems to me that the RUNNERS were in the right here, not the moron that was attempting to FORCE his price for ecto on the runner.
I mean, come on, what if I said, nah....I think ecto is only worth 6.5k because thats all you could sell it to the trader for? Sure, someone, somewhere is probably more than willing to pay 7k for it, but that person might not be me. Its just plain rude for the person to DEMAND 2k back.
Azurewrath
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Why should she pay more? She should not.
The charge everyone else paid was 5k why should she pay 2k more? She shouldnt. You and your partner should have given him/her 2k back but you didnt. The op wont get banned because the pair of people doing this were incompetant idiots to be perfectly honest. The op was WANTING to pay exactly what they were charging everyone else but the runners/rushers thought they could scare the op into paying 2k more as they knew he/she could not pay the 5k and only had one ecto. There is no scam because the rushers were being idiots and would not give 2k over. They set out to complete the mission not help people cap skills. The op left as they were being arses and would not stick to the agreement. The op did not receive the agreed service which was completing thirsty river. Anet wont ban. The op you did the right thing by leaving although capping the skill is questionable. The person saying they did the mission, you wasted your own time from being a complete idiot. Everyone paid 5k so why the hell are you making someone pay 7k. The answer is you knew they could only pay by the ecto and you could force them into paying 2k more through threats of reporting them. Edit: Wow you are clearly lacking intelligence or something? WHY THE HELL SHOULD THE OP PAY 2K MORE THAN EVERYONE ELSE IN THE PARTY? There is no reason why other than you were trying to force him into paying more through threats of reporting him. Ectos take no time to sell its not like you spend hours spamming to sell them. 5k is actually a pretty nice price. What do you want people to do it for 1k as you said 5k is WAY too much? |
knight kt
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All I have to say to most of you is BULLSHIT!!
We all know that when you dont have gold/platinum and you really want a service, you tend to exchange an item of the service. Hell, I've done it tons of times. In these instances the item, in this case an ecto, is valued at the cost of the run. So, for all you RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing MATH GENIUSES that seem to want to post your great arguements that 7k-5k=2k, well.... Run=5k I offer an ecto in exchange for said run. Nothing mentioned about getting any money in return. Just that I'll give him an ecto for the run. This means that I just valued the ecto in question @ 5k. so....Ecto=5k now, if the Run=5k and Ecto=5k seems like an even trade to me. Also, since it was not determined that the Runner would basically BUY an ecto, its a little unfair for the person requesting the service to FORCE a price on him. Since the value of the ECTO was not predetermined, other than in a general sense that it would be offered in trade for the run, and the runner was charging everyone else 5k....seems to me that the RUNNERS were in the right here, not the moron that was attempting to FORCE his price for ecto on the runner. I mean, come on, what if I said, nah....I think ecto is only worth 6.5k because thats all you could sell it to the trader for? Sure, someone, somewhere is probably more than willing to pay 7k for it, but that person might not be me. Its just plain rude for the person to DEMAND 2k back. |
TheMadKingGeorge
hes laughing cos he knows hes wrong all he does is bull shit us capping wasnt part of running as you say running mission for 5k he capped you didnt do mission for him he didnt pay so bye bye
The Herbalizer
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All I have to say to most of you is BULLSHIT!!
We all know that when you dont have gold/platinum and you really want a service, you tend to exchange an item of the service. Hell, I've done it tons of times. In these instances the item, in this case an ecto, is valued at the cost of the run. So, for all you RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing MATH GENIUSES that seem to want to post your great arguements that 7k-5k=2k, well.... Run=5k I offer an ecto in exchange for said run. Nothing mentioned about getting any money in return. Just that I'll give him an ecto for the run. This means that I just valued the ecto in question @ 5k. so....Ecto=5k now, if the Run=5k and Ecto=5k seems like an even trade to me. Also, since it was not determined that the Runner would basically BUY an ecto, its a little unfair for the person requesting the service to FORCE a price on him. Since the value of the ECTO was not predetermined, other than in a general sense that it would be offered in trade for the run, and the runner was charging everyone else 5k....seems to me that the RUNNERS were in the right here, not the moron that was attempting to FORCE his price for ecto on the runner. I mean, come on, what if I said, nah....I think ecto is only worth 6.5k because thats all you could sell it to the trader for? Sure, someone, somewhere is probably more than willing to pay 7k for it, but that person might not be me. Its just plain rude for the person to DEMAND 2k back. |
When i used to do drok runs if someone suddenly didnt have the 3k I would try and get as much from them possible. The rushers did not attempt to do this at all.
Nexus Icon
See, this is why I never run anywhere for cash or pay to get ran anywhere. It just gets nasty.
Besides, isn't it more fun to play the game rather than rush through it or spend all your time running instead of actually playing?
Besides, isn't it more fun to play the game rather than rush through it or spend all your time running instead of actually playing?
paradoxz
So what, the OP is FORCING a price on the RUNNERS, the Runners are the ones offering the service. The OP offered 1 Ecto in Exchange for the Run. Setting an Equal Value of Item to Service. If they hadn't thought about preforming it in that manner to begin with, why would they not have simply 1)exchanged beforehand for gold and paid at mission end or 2)Sold the Ecto to a Third Party before the mission was run 3)Have stated before the run that "Hey can I trade you an ecto for the run and you just give me 2k back?"
All those things are nessasary from the person REQUESTING the service, not from the RUNNER. The Runner is basically running a buisness, and if I'm running a coffee shop, and someone says hey...I'll trade you a 10lbs Chicken for a cup of coffee and say....a $2.99 breakfast....I agree and make everything.....set it down on the table, and then they say...btw...the Chicken is worth $25, so you need to give me $20 back, I would tell them to GET THE HELL OUT!
Dont be dumb....just dont.
All those things are nessasary from the person REQUESTING the service, not from the RUNNER. The Runner is basically running a buisness, and if I'm running a coffee shop, and someone says hey...I'll trade you a 10lbs Chicken for a cup of coffee and say....a $2.99 breakfast....I agree and make everything.....set it down on the table, and then they say...btw...the Chicken is worth $25, so you need to give me $20 back, I would tell them to GET THE HELL OUT!
Dont be dumb....just dont.
knight kt
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See, this is why I never run anywhere for cash or pay to get ran anywhere. It just gets nasty.
Besides, isn't it more fun to play the game rather than rush through it or spend all your time running instead of actually playing? |
so ture man but i offer my service to people that 1 dont have the time or 2 have had problems with groups and jsut want to see it finshed i make cash and over half of it gets given away to my couin or a friend i have a few friends that have helped me in differnt games and so i repay them with this cash that i make i dont really care any more i just dont want to get scamed for something i did i did nothing wrong she agreed to the payment and then tryed to change the agreement after the run was almost over just dont do that to me if she would have said ill give u a ecto but i want 2k back before the run even started everything would have been ok and btw no i dont go see what the trader is sellin and go o im goin to get 100g more thats not me and thats awaste of your time 100g big deal... 2k know what wdf ever i call u a scammer and will keep doin it becouse u took your cap sig after u made up in your mind that u where goin to leave
majoho
I have to say it seems like a misuderstanding.
runner: running mission for 5K
OP: can I pay with an ecto
runner: sure
If that is how it went I'm totally agreeing with the runner, UNLESS it was agreed upon that he should give 2K back for the ecto the deal was the ecto for the run - and it doesn't matter if the ecto is worth more or that other people payed less - the deal was ecto for the run.
..again unless the OP explicitly said that he would need 2k back.
I can't really see how this can even be debated, and certainly it's no reason for reporting the runner.
Btw. "running" is retarded
runner: running mission for 5K
OP: can I pay with an ecto
runner: sure
If that is how it went I'm totally agreeing with the runner, UNLESS it was agreed upon that he should give 2K back for the ecto the deal was the ecto for the run - and it doesn't matter if the ecto is worth more or that other people payed less - the deal was ecto for the run.
..again unless the OP explicitly said that he would need 2k back.
I can't really see how this can even be debated, and certainly it's no reason for reporting the runner.
Btw. "running" is retarded
TheMadKingGeorge
ectos regulary shoot up to 9 k and peopel will buy them for atleast 7k so of course youwasnt displeased
knight kt
and again if she would have said 2k back plz for my ecto np but that was not the agreement stick to your agreement or leave dont use me and go ahead and cap then leave and its kinda funny how people are starting to see wdf im sayin man themadking dont u fell stupid.. ahahaha
Raxxman
arguing over 2k of game money is retarded.
Gli
If the OP offered to pay an ecto and that was agreed upon, he should pay the damn ecto. It's not rocket science.
If you think an ecto is too much, don't offer an ecto.
If you think an ecto is too much, don't offer an ecto.
paradoxz
Its not the money really to me, its the point of the matter really. Runners get screwed and everyone jumps on a bandwagon calling the runners 'greedy' ect...they are offering a service to people that request it, and some of those people are jerks. Its jacked of them to try and change the deal at the moment of payment.