What the update DIDN'T say..

NekoZ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Long Island

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

Remember the shield you used to get from the collector outside of rankor for Frosted Griffon Wings but then they moved it and made it available only for Bleached Shells?

Crimson Carapace Shield
Armor: 16 (Req. 9 Tactics)
Health +45 (while in a Stance)
Reduced Damage -2 (while in a Stance)

Well I got one, before the switched it, for my ranger while running or whatnot.. now I log on today and see what used to be that awesome shield turn into this:



Did I miss something here..?

Shyft the Pyro

Shyft the Pyro

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

NYC, USA

E/Mo

My guess is this: the update 'fixed' old items to be in line with their newer counterparts (ala Rockmolder). Since it also 'updated' all shields to use correct 'base' (no attribute) +AL, it probably changed all shields obtained from the same location to identical stats. If you had gotten your +45/-2 shield in the desert the way my R/W did, you would still have the stats you quote. Since you got your shield before the collector was changed, your shield was updated in the same fashion the Rockmolder was.

On the plus side, you only need 2 Bleached Shells to get your copy of the +45/-2 shield and the shells don't cost nearly as much as they did when it took 5 of them.

NekoZ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Long Island

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

Figured that much.. kind of cheating me in a way but hey that's anet =p. Oh well, it's wurm hunting I go!

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Not sure what has happened to your shield... mine is still like this:

Crimson Carapace Shield
Armor: 16 (Req. 9 Tactics)
Health +45 (while in a Stance)
Reduced Damage -2 (while in a Stance)

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

A lot of people had their shield change, so I'm sure it'll be addressed in another patch soon. Email support to get it fixed faster.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Aww I liked my 20/20 rockmolder, it was a cool collector item

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

your lookin at the wrong shield, they didnt change the whole shield, its -2 vs physical attacks only now, and if it didnt change some ppl's shields, im pretty mad, cuz i want it all changed now. all the same boat pls.

pork soldier

pork soldier

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

My housemate's +45/-2 stance shield from camp rankor changed into a +60/-3 hexed shield when the patch landed.

Shyft the Pyro

Shyft the Pyro

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

NYC, USA

E/Mo

You're saying some of the -2 stance shields didn't update to the new stats/new wording? That would be the bug then, because the current update seems to have 'fixed' all existing items it 'updated.' My R/W has a +45/-2 stance shield from the desert but the wording has changed to reflect -2 is against physical only, and my N/Me's +5 energy wand from outside Nolani Academy no longer has other cool stats :_(

shadykay

shadykay

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS]

yea....i got the same crap....gj arena net?!!?!?!

dantheman5415

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Order of Dii [Dii]

W/E

I think only the Crimson Carapace shields from Rankor (before they were changed initially to 60hp/-3 dmg when hexed) have been fixed.

Caleb

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

My Stance Carapace shield was also changed to a hexed version.

I never had the hexed version of this shield, so I am not looking at the wrong shield.

I can only assume they changed any that were purchased outside of Camp Ranknor to their Hexed replacements. I've had the shield for almost a year, and remember specifically getting it outside Ranknor.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

yea, they changed the ones purchased at Camp, before the ones at Camp were changed. They changed them to reflect the current Camp shields I seems.

Another silent update, is the change in wording on shouts.

nebuchanezzar

nebuchanezzar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

功夫之王

N/

Yes I got my Crimson outside Rankor long ago and it now is a hexed version....they ruined my shields...

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by pork soldier
My housemate's +45/-2 stance shield from camp rankor changed into a +60/-3 hexed shield when the patch landed.
uh no it didnt, there never was a +45/-2 shield there... do you live in a cave?

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

uh ok fine, i guess it might have been there at some point, then thats one old shield. i guess they wanted to make it only avaliable from desert then. heh

no big deal anyway, who cares?

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

I got my stance shield from the dessert collector, did they change it? I was thinking of getting the hex version, should check it out once i get home.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gonzo
I got my stance shield from the dessert collector, did they change it? I was thinking of getting the hex version, should check it out once i get home.
My stance shield from the desert collector is fine.

Lord Oranos

Lord Oranos

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fort Aspenwood

Quote:
Originally Posted by floppinghog
no big deal anyway, who cares?
Alot of people do, there was no sense in changing those shields, it just pissed everyone off...well not everyone, just the people that got that shield before the location to get it was changed.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by floppinghog
uh no it didnt, there never was a +45/-2 shield there... do you live in a cave?
Don't start flaming people because you haven't played the game as long as they have. Yes there was a 45/-2 shield there, but it was changed months ago in an update. I suggest you get your facts right before you make even more of a fool of yourself.

Ulivious The Reaper

Ulivious The Reaper

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Shadowed Assassins

W/Mo

maybe you got the wrong CCS mines still sexy

Zakarr

Zakarr

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

Don't understand why they had to change damage mods from the shields. I understand mods like -2 stance -2 ench combos especially in PvP but this was just too much.

Aramaki

Aramaki

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Yes I can confirmed this too, how can they change our existing shields just like that? I already have another collector wooden buckler with +60 -3 while hexed. Darn pissed.

penguo

penguo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Abaddons Bane

N/

My sheild was changed to while hexed, now i need to find a new one, because my recent farm has all physical attackers with the occasional ritualist.

Aramaki

Aramaki

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

We still can get the stance shield from

Lord Dorn Lendrigen
Location: North of Thirsty River along the eastern edge of The Scar across the teleporter
Collecting: 2 Bleached Shells

Crimson Carapace Shield
Armor: 16 (Requires 9 Tactics)
Health +45 (while in a stance)
Received damage -2 (while in a stance)

But Im still pissed, cos I dyed my old Crimson Carapace Shield black. Also have a same stats Wooden Buckler and Baubao's Shell.

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Its right in the update notes, midway down:

Quote:
Updated shields, armors, and runes with damage reduction abilities so that they only reduce physical damage.
They try and distract us with new storage only to seriously nerf absorbtion... definately not cool.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

My desert collectors' shield is still the same. Unless they mean to remove this shield from the game entirely (or change it) you should still be able to get this from the desert collector near Thirsty River.

Unless this is an unintentional change i.e. bug, it should have been mentioned in the update notes too... stealth updates are not a good idea at all (loss of faith/trust in the company anyone?)

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Oranos
.. there was no sense in changing those shields, it just pissed everyone off...
Obviously that was the only reason why they changed it, now take your meds

milias

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

Me/E

Sigh...I so want to check my shields right now, but I won't be able to do it till Sunday, cos I'm going to be away >.<

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by milias
Sigh...I so want to check my shields right now, but I won't be able to do it till Sunday, cos I'm going to be away >.<
don't. it will only make you sad.

Nexus Icon

Nexus Icon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

I feel really guilty now, as just a couple of days ago I gave my Snake Dance Crimson Carapace shield (+45 in stance, -2 received damage in stance) to a Shing Jea noob

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

/goes shell farming >.>

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

I sure am glad that my CCS is still the same, considering that I'm currently selling it in the Guru auction.

The truth itself

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

First Degree

Mo/

I don't think they thought of this, when they executed the update, it was just a thing that got along, when they changed the unferfed rockmolders.

Aramaki

Aramaki

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rathcail
I sure am glad that my CCS is still the same, considering that I'm currently selling it in the Guru auction.
Your CCS is still the same cos you got it from Lord Dorn Lendrigen. Those who got their old stance Crimson Carapace Shield from Hagnon Warblade outside of Camp Rankor(before the move to Lord Dorn Lendrigen in The Scar near Thirsty River) found it changed to a hexed verion.

eudas

eudas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tx, USA

The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE]

W/

Actually, if you think about it, making absorption apply only to physical damage doesn't "weaken warriors", it "strengthens elementalists". It's a subtle, but clever, way to make ellies more worthwhile as better damage-dealers.

eudas

shmek

shmek

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Not sure what has happened to your shield... mine is still like this:

Crimson Carapace Shield
Armor: 16 (Req. 9 Tactics)
Health +45 (while in a Stance)
Reduced Damage -2 (while in a Stance)
Notice that his above was STENGTH based. It was nice to have one of each tact and str.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

On another note spike+barbed trap are broken - dealing 20 dmg in most cases

Cash

Cash

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Bound By Wild Desire [Wild]

wow, 5 rockmolders nerfed into crap, nolani wands on 5 characters nerfed into crap, 45k and 30 amber nerfed into crap (knights boots on warrior 15k and 2 virtuoso gloves with different runes on mesmer 15k). very nice collection of shields nerfed into crap along with pretty much all absorption (hows that -2stance, -3hexed gonna stand up against titans now, eh?).

you know, we all take our chances holding onto extinct items - the rockmolder thing doesnt make me too angry. the knights/virtuoso armor issues have always been kind of iffy - so that doesnt make me too angry either. nolani wands and just a minor annoyance too.

but this: "Updated shields, armors, and runes with damage reduction abilities so that they only reduce physical damage." that is ...dare i say ... BULLSHIT. why physical only? realistically (in a non-real game) shouldnt a shield with damage prevention mods help prevent things like stone daggers, fireball, etc? while the AoE nerf pissed off a lot of people, at least it MADE SENSE. this makes no sense whatsoever.

and this: Weapon upgrades and Runes now indicate which kind of weapon/armor they attach to. For example, a dagger tang will have the text "Attaches to: Dagger". wow, thanks ever so much for this! im sure most of us were lost as to why our AXE hafts wouldnt fit on our HAMMERS.

well, we got the ability to split stacks- that was needed. we can now see what kind of ascalon bow we have- that was needed too. and we got new material storage. but in all honestly, this update has hit me so hard in terms of loss of money/item value and item utility that i just cant bring myself to even be happy about it. heck, i dont even want to log into the game again at this point after just looking through my characters inventories and seeing how much damage was done.

well, its just a game- but its a game i probably wont bother playing again until new character slots are enabled.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuld
On another note spike+barbed trap are broken - dealing 20 dmg in most cases
Just tested this, and yea..Barbed did much less dmg than a spell that deals the same number of dmg (or supposed to)