What the update DIDN'T say..
Cybah
I never saw a strength +45 -2 stance shield. And I got a hexed from shiverpeaks months ago... strange. are u sure there was a +45 -2 for req strength?
Shyft the Pyro
The problem is not with this part of the update:
it's with this part:
The Crimson Carapace Shields were collector shields, so when all collector shields needed to be 'fixed' to perform in the new way, we got a global update that changed all items ever obtained from a collector into the new versions of themselves rather than 'fixed' versions of their old selves.
It's a shame and a waste, but it's not coming back since it seems all Rankor CCS need to be updated at the same time, and rolling them back to +45/-2 stats would mean 'breaking' some +60/-3 shields people may have gotten legitimately after the collector was changed.
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| Updated shields, armors, and runes with damage reduction abilities so that they only reduce physical damage. |
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| Increased the inherent armor level on all unique (green text), promotional, crafted, and collector shields so that they behave the same way as other shields when the characters equipping them do not meet the necessary attribute requirement. |
It's a shame and a waste, but it's not coming back since it seems all Rankor CCS need to be updated at the same time, and rolling them back to +45/-2 stats would mean 'breaking' some +60/-3 shields people may have gotten legitimately after the collector was changed.
Former Ruling
Exactly, its in the way they updated the collector's shields.
In common man terms, they probably just 'deleted' all collectors stuff and replaced it with the new versions of that collectors shield. And all shields from that Camp Collector were grouped together as the "shield from that collector" and were all changed to the current version of that shield when the text and no req functions were updated.
In common man terms, they probably just 'deleted' all collectors stuff and replaced it with the new versions of that collectors shield. And all shields from that Camp Collector were grouped together as the "shield from that collector" and were all changed to the current version of that shield when the text and no req functions were updated.
Aramaki
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Originally Posted by Cybah
I never saw a strength +45 -2 stance shield. And I got a hexed from shiverpeaks months ago... strange. are u sure there was a +45 -2 for req strength?
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Guard Captain Mirkoz
Location: Saint Anjeka's Shrine
Collects: 5 Dredge Incisors
* Wooden Buckler, Armor: 16 (req. 9 Strength)
Health +45 (while in a Stance)
Reduces physical damage by 2 (while in a Stance)
Lets Get to Healing
Desert ones were kept the same.
Rankor ones were changed.
It is the most obvious thing ever.
Rankor ones were changed.
It is the most obvious thing ever.
Seissor
The shield you posted loveably known as the runners shield got switched a long time ago to the hex shield. The stats you displayed. This switch is old.
But whats happened is this. You got your runners shield from the shiverpeaks and not the desert. So you got the original shield.
They updated the collector outside rankor so his shield now says -3 PHYSICAL dmg. And ANET bungled it up, so all pre-nerf runner shields acquired north of rankor magically turned into the collector shield you got there.
I bet anyone with a runner shield acquired in the desert still has the same stance stats.
Expect this screw up to be fixed.
But whats happened is this. You got your runners shield from the shiverpeaks and not the desert. So you got the original shield.
They updated the collector outside rankor so his shield now says -3 PHYSICAL dmg. And ANET bungled it up, so all pre-nerf runner shields acquired north of rankor magically turned into the collector shield you got there.
I bet anyone with a runner shield acquired in the desert still has the same stance stats.
Expect this screw up to be fixed.
NekoZ
We all know that, but I highly doubt they will fix it.
Jetdoc
Honestly, both shields are pretty much terrible now. The true value of the stance shield was the -2 damage reduction while you were tanking or running.
Now, that -2 damage reduction is only against physical damage, which makes them much less desireable.
The +45 Health is nice, but I'd much rather have the +30 Health always than the very conditional +15 Health.
Now, that -2 damage reduction is only against physical damage, which makes them much less desireable.
The +45 Health is nice, but I'd much rather have the +30 Health always than the very conditional +15 Health.
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Honestly, both shields are pretty much terrible now. The true value of the stance shield was the -2 damage reduction while you were tanking or running.
Now, that -2 damage reduction is only against physical damage, which makes them much less desireable. The +45 Health is nice, but I'd much rather have the +30 Health always than the very conditional +15 Health. |
So it's a nerf, and potentially one that could lead a lot of people to stop using the shield altogether and reduce the market for it tremendously, but there will still be people willing to use it and it will still carry some value.
toon-a-loon
God damnit. I didn't want my sheild to change. There was a reason why I had a stance shield. So when i go running I can -2 dmg. This is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing annoying.
Andy_M
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Originally Posted by eudas
Actually, if you think about it, making absorption apply only to physical damage doesn't "weaken warriors", it "strengthens elementalists". It's a subtle, but clever, way to make ellies more worthwhile as better damage-dealers.
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Gaile Gray
Good catch. I just heard from two designers, and they told me this: We messed up and we'll be doing a live build this afternoon to furnish you the mean to make an exchange. After the live build goes up, look for a collector in Snakedance who will allow you to exchange the Hex shield for a Stance shield.
There will be no cost for this. (Yes, I asked twice to be really sure.
) Just talk to the new guy and he'll make the swap!
Thanks for pointing out the error and stop by Snakedance to make the exchange at your convenience.
There will be no cost for this. (Yes, I asked twice to be really sure.
) Just talk to the new guy and he'll make the swap!Thanks for pointing out the error and stop by Snakedance to make the exchange at your convenience.
snikerz
i can confirm @ OP, this also happened to me
edit. i shoulda skipped to the end, gj gail, appreciate it, i dyed my shield black even
edit. i shoulda skipped to the end, gj gail, appreciate it, i dyed my shield black even
Fyre Brand
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Good catch. I just heard from two designers, and they told me this: We messed up and we'll be doing a live build this afternoon to furnish you the mean to make an exchange. After the live build goes up, look for a collector in Snakedance who will allow you to exchange the Hex shield for a Stance shield.
There will be no cost for this. (Yes, I asked twice to be really sure. ) Just talk to the new guy and he'll make the swap!Thanks for pointing out the error and stop by Snakedance to make the exchange at your convenience. |
VitisVinifera
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Good catch. I just heard from two designers, and they told me this: We messed up and we'll be doing a live build this afternoon to furnish you the mean to make an exchange. After the live build goes up, look for a collector in Snakedance who will allow you to exchange the Hex shield for a Stance shield.
There will be no cost for this. (Yes, I asked twice to be really sure. ) Just talk to the new guy and he'll make the swap!Thanks for pointing out the error and stop by Snakedance to make the exchange at your convenience. |
Former Ruling
Of course the cost will be 50gp per shield swap.
(yes, I read Gaile's post...don't even quote this post, just playing off the cost thing).
(yes, I read Gaile's post...don't even quote this post, just playing off the cost thing).
Silabus The Rebirth
The update was only supposed to change the shield from this guy:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hagnon_Warblade
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hagnon_Warblade
Mr D J
>_> Good thing I sold mine about 7 months ago 
Gaile Gray
More good news. If you shield is dyed, you should see the same colour on your replacement, according to our Items Expert.
Xenrath
Hope you brought your rune of superior fire absorption Gaile hehe some mighty annoyed people on the forums today 
viper008
Update - Friday July 14
Added a new collector in Snake Dance, just outside Camp Rankor. This collector exchanges the Carapace Shields given out by Hagnon Warblade that were incorrectly modified by the last update. Shield dye color is unaffected by this exchange.
Fixed a bug in the Assassin Moebius Strike skill. It no longer recharges itself.
www.guildwars.com
Added a new collector in Snake Dance, just outside Camp Rankor. This collector exchanges the Carapace Shields given out by Hagnon Warblade that were incorrectly modified by the last update. Shield dye color is unaffected by this exchange.
Fixed a bug in the Assassin Moebius Strike skill. It no longer recharges itself.
www.guildwars.com
Markaedw
Gaile will be fine remeber Ranger have the best elemental defense
VitisVinifera
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
More good news.
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was the previous good news that you made this mistake in the first place?
Caleb
My shield did indeed transfer flawlessly to the new stalwart, and the dye color was intact!
Aramaki
Many thanks to Gaile and the devs for the swift reponse and action! Ya I got my black dyed Carapace Shield back!