Extra storage - penny for your thoughts
Slainster
Ok, Im quite happy for the extra storage for all my materials, I like the layout, got no problem paying the 50gold to activate it... but pray tell, why on earth do we have to activate for each character we play?? And for those of us still in Tyria that own factions, how come there is no upgrade agent? (Or did I just miss her?)
Gonzo
Because we had to pay 50 g with each of our characters for the normal access as well.
Because it's only for Factions buyers.
Because it's only for Factions buyers.
Nexus Icon
In their infinite wisdom (read: lust for cash and an effort to force Prophecies players to buy Factions), ANet have made it so that the storage expansion is only available to players who own Factions.
Slainster
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Originally Posted by Nexus Icon
In their infinite wisdom (read: lust for cash and an effort to force Prophecies players to buy Factions), ANet have made it so that the storage expansion is only available to players who own Factions.
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Xenrath
It's better than nothing but it's another example of saying one thing and doing another (please don't split hairs over how 50g is nothing. It is something, and that's not what was said)
Also, still hoping for storage for event items and other collectable stuff. Most people probably have several stacks of the common materials e.g. wood, iron, cloth etc. so while it helps free up one stack maybe, most who have materials still have a lot of the same material stored on their characters.
Also, still hoping for storage for event items and other collectable stuff. Most people probably have several stacks of the common materials e.g. wood, iron, cloth etc. so while it helps free up one stack maybe, most who have materials still have a lot of the same material stored on their characters.
-Loki-
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Originally Posted by Slainster
Which I find a little rude, how come phrophecies players are excluded? seems a little unreasonable
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Tainek
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Originally Posted by -Loki-
It is, and it's the srource of most of the complaints, even from people who own Factions. A new feature was added to Factions only owners after they said features would be regardless of how many expansions you own, they they said to everyone complaining that we don't know what we are talking about. Lie and insult the community. Winnar.
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They said interface changes and such i belive, The storage upgrade is what i would lable content, and not a Feature
There will always be people who nit pick
/Agreewithanet
0mar
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Originally Posted by Tainek
They said interface changes and such i belive, The storage upgrade is what i would lable content, and not a Feature
There will always be people who nit pick /Agreewithanet |
Look for reconnects to enabled for Chapter 3 people only and auction houses for Chapter 4 and so on and so on...
yeah_hi
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Originally Posted by Slainster
penny for your thoughts
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Well, I'm grateful for the extra storage, although it's a little frustrating that there's empty slots for things like Elonian Leather and Spiritwood Planks, whilst I've got stacks and stacks of Iron Ingots and Tanned Hides etc still clogging up my other storage tab.
I'm not surprised or particularly bothered that each character has to pay (a minimal amount) to upgrade - expected that. I am surprised that it's not been included for Prophecies though.
I quite like playing 'storage bingo' now - I'm nowhere near a 'full house', but I just need a Sapphire and a Bolt of Damask to complete the middle column - woo!
QuuTip
Maybe Anet's calculation went wrong somewhere along the way. Maybe NCSoft is trying to squeeze the last penny out of Anet (and us). Who really knows? Who wants to know?
What I see is a great game that comes without monthly fees and I would like Guild Wars to stay this way. A broken "promise" or two along the way do not hurt me as bad as monthly fees would.
The financing scheme of Guild Wars: People who buy the new chapters are paying the maintenance/bandwidth/upkeep costs for themselves AND the buyers of old chapters. Sooner or later Anet has to find ways to generate income from existing accounts and make new chapters more attractive. Purchasable character slots and material storage are indicators that Anet is going this way. I will go along with Anet, regardless of what has been "mentioned in some interview with some dev".
Lies and insults? A bit harsh, I think. Think of it more like a miscalculation that has been corrected and be glad that it has been corrected while the child was still alive and healthy.
What I see is a great game that comes without monthly fees and I would like Guild Wars to stay this way. A broken "promise" or two along the way do not hurt me as bad as monthly fees would.
The financing scheme of Guild Wars: People who buy the new chapters are paying the maintenance/bandwidth/upkeep costs for themselves AND the buyers of old chapters. Sooner or later Anet has to find ways to generate income from existing accounts and make new chapters more attractive. Purchasable character slots and material storage are indicators that Anet is going this way. I will go along with Anet, regardless of what has been "mentioned in some interview with some dev".
Lies and insults? A bit harsh, I think. Think of it more like a miscalculation that has been corrected and be glad that it has been corrected while the child was still alive and healthy.
majoho
You don't have to buy the extra storage for more than one char, it's your choice.
RTSFirebat
Really now, everything here has already been dicussed time and time again in other threads.
While I'm sure its unfair that only Factions owners can get the new storage (As there is no Storage reps in Tyria), it was stated at the beginning that was going to be the case.
Also while a.net did say it was free 50g is nothing, you can get 50g within 10 secs by kill one or two mobs
As for the type and size of the storage? Well it allows me to storage items I normally wouldn't be able to, and has freed up space for me, so I'd call this new storage a complete success.
While I'm sure its unfair that only Factions owners can get the new storage (As there is no Storage reps in Tyria), it was stated at the beginning that was going to be the case.
Also while a.net did say it was free 50g is nothing, you can get 50g within 10 secs by kill one or two mobs
As for the type and size of the storage? Well it allows me to storage items I normally wouldn't be able to, and has freed up space for me, so I'd call this new storage a complete success.
Orbberius
Love the extra storage. I have storage space for the first time since I started playing.
Vermilion
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Originally Posted by Tainek
They said interface changes and such i belive, The storage upgrade is what i would lable content, and not a Feature
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/meh idk
And yes, the storage is awesome..and I have good timing since I sold all my materials the day before.
gg
razorbladesmiles
Paying 50g per char is fine with me and I really like the look of the new storage too, just a shame Prophecies hasn't got the feature. I play a car over there and would have really liked a little more room, but hey, maybe in time they will implement it - I mean the technology is there right? So... maybe... 'hint hint' it'll happen.
And I mean char not car
And I mean char not car
frickett
I am happy with the upgraded storage, It got one of my characters pretty well cleaned out, Now I just need to sell some of the items my modmule is carrying around.
sassoonssamson
it would have been better if there was additional tab to keep festival items like dragon mask tengu mask etc
Snowman
I was a little suprised by the pay-per-character. but no biggy, 50gold is nothing.
As for its actual usefullness... well, I never really used storage for materials, but I have found that I have some shards to go in, so thats one space saved!
Ive gone around and pooled together materials from other characters..so ive saved some space on some of the characters. But thats a bit pointless because when your out adventuring the spaces are immeditaly taken up again as you salavage!
So I guess overall Its given me some more temporary space, and one or two slots freed up in the storage.
so for me, as I expected its made very little difference. We now we need a dye storage, a key storage and Scrolls Storage then I may start having the space I need.
As for its actual usefullness... well, I never really used storage for materials, but I have found that I have some shards to go in, so thats one space saved!
Ive gone around and pooled together materials from other characters..so ive saved some space on some of the characters. But thats a bit pointless because when your out adventuring the spaces are immeditaly taken up again as you salavage!
So I guess overall Its given me some more temporary space, and one or two slots freed up in the storage.
so for me, as I expected its made very little difference. We now we need a dye storage, a key storage and Scrolls Storage then I may start having the space I need.
jimmy_logic
Almost happy with what we got... wish there would be tabs for Holiday Items and Armors. Otherwise this freed up 10 slots for me.
Grasping Darkness
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Which I find a little rude, how come phrophecies players are excluded? seems a little unreasonable
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You get what you pay for.
Who's to say Anet works for free.
when my craft mat storage is completely full i want to unlock the title "Full of S@%*"
hehehe
Aramaki
Hey Xunlai agent, can I paid another 200g but store 1000 of each material?
No? But a full set of armor for eg. 15k warrior requires like more than 250 iron Ingots ya know? Still no? Oh ok...
No? But a full set of armor for eg. 15k warrior requires like more than 250 iron Ingots ya know? Still no? Oh ok...
RTSFirebat
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Originally Posted by Aramaki
Hey Xunlai agent, can I paid another 200g but store 1000 of each material?
No? But a full set of armor for eg. 15k warrior requires like more than 250 iron Ingots ya know? Still no? Oh ok... |
But yes it's a bit annoying but what to do.
Loki Seiguro
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Originally Posted by Xenrath
It's better than nothing but it's another example of saying one thing and doing another (please don't split hairs over how 50g is nothing. It is something, and that's not what was said)
Also, still hoping for storage for event items and other collectable stuff. Most people probably have several stacks of the common materials e.g. wood, iron, cloth etc. so while it helps free up one stack maybe, most who have materials still have a lot of the same material stored on their characters. |
RTSFirebat
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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro
thats true for me i had 1000 of every mat in my storage now i have 250 of every mat in my storage.... WOW big difference ANET!!....anyway anet is just too money hungry so they allow onyln facctions buyers to have it i bet if ppl dont buy GW3 they will do the same thing but with something differnt.....
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A.net didn't have to give us more storage, they didn't have to give us anything. But they did...
However small the new storage maybe, it extra storage. A.net promised "extra" storage which has been added in. Seems fair to me.
As for those calling A.net greedy, well they are a company out to make a profit, if you were working for them you'd think the same.
Anyways you don't NEED to by Factions anyhow. I lived with the normal storage for 1 year, using my warrior character as a mule, so its not like anything will change for people who still refuse to pay the small fee to buy factions.
Factions costs only £17.99 here in the UK, that is hardly anything at all.
So less of the A.net bashing
lyra_song
I really think its a nice upgrade, but in the long run its a very very minor upgrade. The only real use for me for it is holding ecto, shards, jade and amber. It freed up a few slots on my chars, but i still have a few stacks in regular storage.
I do find it disheartening that our prophecies brothers and sisters cannot benefit at the same time as us but at the same time, i see Anet's logic in making it "exclusive content", even if minor.
I really feel torn at this issue.
I do find it disheartening that our prophecies brothers and sisters cannot benefit at the same time as us but at the same time, i see Anet's logic in making it "exclusive content", even if minor.
I really feel torn at this issue.
Omega X
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Originally Posted by Grasping Darkness
thats what i was thinking til i thought this.
You get what you pay for. Who's to say Anet works for free. when my craft mat storage is completely full i want to unlock the title "Full of S@%*" hehehe |
bpphantom
I love the extra storage. I almost emptied my normal storage and my materials mule has room left to go farm 
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro
thats true for me i had 1000 of every mat in my storage now i have 250 of every mat in my storage.... WOW big difference ANET!!....
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sinican
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Bigger than you realize. Do you have any clue as to the difference in the amount of data required to store the two? If I'm not mistaken... it's double the amount of bytespace taken up. Multiplied for every character in the game... massive amounts of data storage.
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im not complainning because its something for nothing really it didnt come with faction nor with prophacies t was ADDED out of no where...
i do wish it held more than it does considering i have an upgraded account and my 6 chracters have to share the same storage... i wish each had an individual storage as well as the general storage to transfer items to your other characters...
GUE Tech
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Bigger than you realize. Do you have any clue as to the difference in the amount of data required to store the two? If I'm not mistaken... it's double the amount of bytespace taken up. Multiplied for every character in the game... massive amounts of data storage.
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A terabyte is approx. 1 trillion bytes. If it is in that general area, heck, I will buy Anet a drive or two.
Pillz_veritas
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Can anyone be specific about the actual storage size?
A terabyte is approx. 1 trillion bytes. If it is in that general area, heck, I will buy Anet a drive or two. |
no one realy knows how much info each character requires storage wise on there servers... :-/
Nexus Icon
I'd hazard a guess and say that the reason stacks are limited to 250 is that that fits quite snugly into 8 bits or 1 Byte. 8 bits allows for 256 combinations.
What are there, 31 materials spaces? So that's 31 Bytes of information per account. That's about 60MB for 2 million accounts.
Hell, let's be generous and give each account 1KB of storage space. That's 1,024 Bytes or 8,192 bits.
That's about 2GB of storage.
Oooooooo, scary huge!
What are there, 31 materials spaces? So that's 31 Bytes of information per account. That's about 60MB for 2 million accounts.
Hell, let's be generous and give each account 1KB of storage space. That's 1,024 Bytes or 8,192 bits.
That's about 2GB of storage.
Oooooooo, scary huge!
GUE Tech
That's what I mean. Storage is cheap, so I don't see that as the bottleneck. I would welcome any proof otherwise.
I think the issue is "hoarding" not storage capacity of the servers.
I think the issue is "hoarding" not storage capacity of the servers.
thrashbasket
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Originally Posted by 0mar
There's a developer interview where he mentions storage (along with reconnects, improved trading etc etc) as being features and therefore, enabled for all.
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raven214
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no one realy knows how much info each character requires storage wise on there servers... :-/
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(<-- tongue in cheek here, I realize they have no obligation/reason to give out that sort of information)Don't get me wrong though, I do appreciate ANet's effort. But unless they're planning to make additional storage tabs for dyes, trophies, and what not, it seems a rather token gesture at best -- certainly not in the effort to make it, but in its impact. When you think about it, they had to create the tab system, add in slots for each type of material with counters for each, and so on... A second tab of general storage would have been more useful and easier to impliment IMHO, unless they are planning to add more (hint, hint ANet
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Slainster
actually.. dont get me wrong here completely.. while it would have been "nice"to add the feature to prohecies, I can kinda understand the mentalitly, even if it is meant to be the same game... what would be nice though is to have an agent upgrade "option" in Tyria, maybe in Ascalon to allow those of us with factions to be able to open the extra storage, without having to trek all the way to the otherside (and I guess this only really affects those of us that have started new Tyrian characters recently )... ^^ rant over!
Sir Skullcrasher
I wouldn't mind paying more for extra storage.
bobrath
Next up, I want a "closet" where I can only put things that are customized for that specific character - so festival gear, farming outfit, my showoff 15k sets. :P
I really do appreciate the addition to storage. Completely freed my original storage up. I don't see a huge need for more then 250 per slot. Sure full armor sets can take more then 250 of one of the common items, but they're common! Its not like you'd have to spend hours getting that missing 50 iron ingots...
I really do appreciate the addition to storage. Completely freed my original storage up. I don't see a huge need for more then 250 per slot. Sure full armor sets can take more then 250 of one of the common items, but they're common! Its not like you'd have to spend hours getting that missing 50 iron ingots...
Loki Seiguro
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I'm sorry, but that is plain ungrateful.
A.net didn't have to give us more storage, they didn't have to give us anything. But they did... However small the new storage maybe, it extra storage. A.net promised "extra" storage which has been added in. Seems fair to me. As for those calling A.net greedy, well they are a company out to make a profit, if you were working for them you'd think the same. Anyways you don't NEED to by Factions anyhow. I lived with the normal storage for 1 year, using my warrior character as a mule, so its not like anything will change for people who still refuse to pay the small fee to buy factions. Factions costs only £17.99 here in the UK, that is hardly anything at all. So less of the A.net bashing |
eternal pho
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Which I find a little rude, how come phrophecies players are excluded? seems a little unreasonable
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It's all about business and Anet will want as much sales as possible =D