I just posted our (Esoteric Warrior's) submissions for the new PVP premades on our website.
Direct link to all the builds:
All skills:
JR's Blessed Light Monk
Blinding Prodigy
Warrior's Anguish
Core skills:
Final Master
Energy Denied
Tainted Ally
Prophecies skills:
Hit Divine Boon
Frenzy Theory
Cripshot Ranger
Faction skills:
Hot Stepper
Air of Smite
The final build will be a ritualist courtecy of Arenanet.
New Official Premades
Furfoot
Silent Kitty
Nice. I hope they'll be on the GW premades soon. We need more better premades. The current ones are no longer viable.
lyra_song
Shock warrior premade!! yay!!
zomg nerf it!! ^^; lets hope the prebuilds survive the future skill balances.
zomg nerf it!! ^^; lets hope the prebuilds survive the future skill balances.
Mr_T_bot
Frenzy? Seriously? Good way to get wasted quick, fast, and in a hurry - you take double damage from sources that ignore armor and thus have no variation in damage.
Frenzy in Final Master? Wtf? Why not "For Great Justice!"? The build isn't heavy on energy and "For Great Justice!" lasts longer and thus uses less energy than Frenzy anyway, and couple that with not turning you into a human pincussion just asking for it, it is hard to decide between it and FGJ!'s 45 second recharge.
Frenzy in Final Master? Wtf? Why not "For Great Justice!"? The build isn't heavy on energy and "For Great Justice!" lasts longer and thus uses less energy than Frenzy anyway, and couple that with not turning you into a human pincussion just asking for it, it is hard to decide between it and FGJ!'s 45 second recharge.
xBakox
Awesome picks...but where is IWAY????? 
j/k
Cant wait to try them out.
Edit: T-Bot, every HA/GvG warrior uses frenzy...
j/kCant wait to try them out.
Edit: T-Bot, every HA/GvG warrior uses frenzy...
Empex
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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
Frenzy? Seriously? Good way to get wasted quick, fast, and in a hurry - you take double damage from sources that ignore armor and thus have no variation in damage.
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2) The cover stance in that build can be activated whenever you start taking damage.
Mr_T_bot
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Originally Posted by Empex
2) The cover stance in that build can be activated whenever you start taking damage.
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Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by Empex
1) Noone targets warriors in pvp - any decent player should be able to judge whenever he/she is going to be attacked. Hint, it's not while the mesmer or monk on your team is alive, and probably not until most other casters are down too.
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Loch
Frenzy works fine if you're not a fool. It's that simple.
The premade lineup certainly looks to be good quality. Let's hope that new PvP players learn a thing or two from these. Like, for example, they can learn how to stance-cancel out of Frenzy when they're under fire.
The premade lineup certainly looks to be good quality. Let's hope that new PvP players learn a thing or two from these. Like, for example, they can learn how to stance-cancel out of Frenzy when they're under fire.
The truth itself
Hot Stepper has no lead attack.
Frenzy is one of the best warrior skills. That is a fact.
Frenzy is one of the best warrior skills. That is a fact.
Sekkira
Frenzy is not only a viable skill in pvp, but an essential one for a warrior to dish out massive damage to your target (be it a giant enemy crab or whatnot). It has no real drawbacks other than double damage which can be cured with another stance such as sprint, which also doubles to chase your target down and knock them over to finish them off (personally I prefer bull's strike, but I wont deny that shock is just as effective).
EDIT by Swehurn - Flame removed. Play nice.
EDIT by Swehurn - Flame removed. Play nice.
Mysterial
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Originally Posted by Empex
1) Noone targets warriors in pvp - any decent player should be able to judge whenever he/she is going to be attacked. Hint, it's not while the mesmer or monk on your team is alive, and probably not until most other casters are down too.
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Also, I don't think Frenzy is a particularly good idea in RA, where a lot of those newbies play, both because there is often no monk and also because of the volume of damage causing warrior hate (e.g. Ineptitude) that's present.
Red Locust
Very nice. Finally, some actually good premades 
Props to EW.
Myst: the only way to get better is to practice. If the newbies never get to use frenzy in pvp situations, they'll never learn how to use it and will be missing out on a huge skill. Better to learn the hard way than to never learn at all.
Props to EW.
Myst: the only way to get better is to practice. If the newbies never get to use frenzy in pvp situations, they'll never learn how to use it and will be missing out on a huge skill. Better to learn the hard way than to never learn at all.
JR
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Originally Posted by The truth itself
Hot Stepper has no lead attack.
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And Frenzy is good.
Hollerith
I thought it was a well known fact that Frenzy was one of the best W skills in game. Guess that was my bad.
But even though the cover stance is a pretty good choice, that build seems too simple. I think Anet just wants to promote Charge!.
Nice to see the AoD build in there, and a bit ambivalent to see the AoE smite build.
But even though the cover stance is a pretty good choice, that build seems too simple. I think Anet just wants to promote Charge!.
Nice to see the AoD build in there, and a bit ambivalent to see the AoE smite build.
Ray
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Originally Posted by The truth itself
Hot Stepper has no lead attack.
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Loch
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The problem is that premades are largely for newbies and most newbies probably do not understand stance cancelling and from how many of them take the Paladin premade, they probably don't understand that they aren't going to be targeted over a caster, either. Also, I don't think Frenzy is a particularly good idea in RA, where a lot of those newbies play, both because there is often no monk and also because of the volume of damage causing warrior hate (e.g. Ineptitude) that's present. |
unholy guardian
some nice pre-builds although the aod thingy kina got nerfed already
fallot
Yay for premades that don't suck, now I can get friends to play the game and not be gimped from the start. I'm a little sad though that the Dervish, Paragon and Ritualist will remain in ANet's uh.. capable hands.
Former Ruling
They won't implement popular builds as direct premades.
Premades are ALWAYS gimped in some fashion, to promote having to buy/unlock further skills to tweak them with.
Premades are ALWAYS gimped in some fashion, to promote having to buy/unlock further skills to tweak them with.
B Ephekt
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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
Frenzy? Seriously? Good way to get wasted quick, fast, and in a hurry - you take double damage from sources that ignore armor and thus have no variation in damage.
Frenzy in Final Master? Wtf? Why not "For Great Justice!"? The build isn't heavy on energy and "For Great Justice!" lasts longer and thus uses less energy than Frenzy anyway, and couple that with not turning you into a human pincussion just asking for it, it is hard to decide between it and FGJ!'s 45 second recharge. |
Nice builds, this will help out newer players a lot.
fallot
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Originally Posted by Former Ruling
They won't implement popular builds as direct premades
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Metanoia
Heh, I was just playing a Hex-Breaker/"Charge!" Sword Warrior last week. I was feeling all smug about being somewhat original, too. Then I see it in an obs match.... and then I see it's one of the new pre-mades. 
How long has it been common knowledge?
Ps.
<--- Tool.
How long has it been common knowledge?
Ps.
<--- Tool.
lyra_song
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Originally Posted by Metanoia
Heh, I was just playing a Hex-Breaker/"Charge!" Sword Warrior last week. I was feeling all smug about being somewhat original, too. Then I see it in an obs match.... and then I see it's one of the new pre-mades.
How long has it been common knowledge? Ps. <--- Tool. |
Amity and Truth
Nice builds.
The "Blinding Prodigy" and the "Warrior's Anquish" will cause a serious decline of PVP Warriors though as soon as they're Premade Builds ^^
The "Blinding Prodigy" and the "Warrior's Anquish" will cause a serious decline of PVP Warriors though as soon as they're Premade Builds ^^
Count to Potato
Easy builds for everyone to use, yay
Skuld
Cripshots are gonna be evil
Sai of Winter
Finally, some new premades and nice ones too for the newcomers to PvP and the game.
gamemagus
Wow, looks like a good line up.. can't wait!
Loch
I can't wait to see "Bring Back The Old Premades" petitions in the suggestions forum. We'll see plenty of idiots complaining about how the new warriors can't survive nearly as long as the paladin, and therefore, the new warriors are inferior.
Age
So are these officail?I don't mind some of them but they are more to a median type player not beginner.I am glad I do have lots of skil unloced to make up my own as I am not a big fan of the shock warrior.The Crip Ranger I would rather use punishing shot.
crimsonfilms
If you are a warrior and you don't know how to use Frenzy + Sprint/Rush/etc... Press F12.
TadaceAce
These prebuilds are roughly better than I thought they would be. Remember when they removed flame slinger prebuild when they changed kindle arrows? Keep that in mind.
I was hoping for a medium between god awful (current prebuilds) and relatively good (your average RA players comprehension of a really good build).
Crippling shot ranger is going to really be annoying. As if enough sadistic newbs don't use the trapper prebuild for griefing.. here comes griefing build 2.0
These builds are also going to take more of the skill out of RA and add more luck. With these prebuilds everybody is going to be using tham now instead of their current incredibly bad, crappy build and make for more of an even playing field for better players.
Once these prebuilds are released if I EVER have another wammo on my team I will be highly pissed.
I was hoping for a medium between god awful (current prebuilds) and relatively good (your average RA players comprehension of a really good build).
Crippling shot ranger is going to really be annoying. As if enough sadistic newbs don't use the trapper prebuild for griefing.. here comes griefing build 2.0
These builds are also going to take more of the skill out of RA and add more luck. With these prebuilds everybody is going to be using tham now instead of their current incredibly bad, crappy build and make for more of an even playing field for better players.
Once these prebuilds are released if I EVER have another wammo on my team I will be highly pissed.
TheOneMephisto
Some of these premades seem a little too oriented towards GvG or HA. For instance, HP in RA? please. Also, ressurect is generally a bad idea outside of GvG.
Besides a couple minor complaints (including the fact that yes these should be slightly gimped IMO), nice. Basically, can see the major parts of the metagame (or the recent metagame) in these premades.
Besides a couple minor complaints (including the fact that yes these should be slightly gimped IMO), nice. Basically, can see the major parts of the metagame (or the recent metagame) in these premades.
linh
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If you are a warrior and you don't know how to use Frenzy + Sprint/Rush/etc... Press F12.
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And T-Bot, your avatar is good for you.
Divinus Stella
Well, the frenzy/healsig shock warrior could be an amusing replacement to wammos in RA, for tombs its not bad tho, just drop out the axe rake and heal sig and put in an interrupt or two.
SaGGGan
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The Crip Ranger I would rather use punishing shot.
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I like those new premades.
Those are very good builds i think, and imo it's better for a newbie to start with a new build, with which you learn more about pvp then to start with a paladin.
Mercury Angel
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Once these prebuilds are released if I EVER have another wammo on my team I will be highly pissed.
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That is to say, they willingly choose to use W/Mo tank builds, rather than having limited choice due to the premades.
I have nothing against the paladin variant builds personally, and while I question their value in any form of PvP, I don't think they'll ever truly vanish so long as the concept of 'tanking' exists in PvP, and so long as people feel that as long as THEY are alive, they're doing well.
As for these builds... None contain skills I have yet to unlock, so none of them help me. However, they look solid for use in a variety of PvP types, so even the newest player should be able to jump in and try Team, Random, HoH and GvG competitively. Obviously, practice will help significantly, in addition to rune and equipment unlocks, but all in due time.
Rukmedes
Frenzy is pretty much the best warrior skill. If you die while using it, there is only one reason for that, you suck nuts at this game.
Warskull
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Originally Posted by Metanoia
Heh, I was just playing a Hex-Breaker/"Charge!" Sword Warrior last week. I was feeling all smug about being somewhat original, too. Then I see it in an obs match.... and then I see it's one of the new pre-mades.
How long has it been common knowledge? Ps. <--- Tool. |