New Official Premades

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Silent Kitty
Silent Kitty
Desert Nomad
#2
Nice. I hope they'll be on the GW premades soon. We need more better premades. The current ones are no longer viable.
lyra_song
lyra_song
Hell's Protector
#3
Shock warrior premade!! yay!!

zomg nerf it!! ^^; lets hope the prebuilds survive the future skill balances.
Mr_T_bot
Mr_T_bot
Banned
#4
Frenzy? Seriously? Good way to get wasted quick, fast, and in a hurry - you take double damage from sources that ignore armor and thus have no variation in damage.

Frenzy in Final Master? Wtf? Why not "For Great Justice!"? The build isn't heavy on energy and "For Great Justice!" lasts longer and thus uses less energy than Frenzy anyway, and couple that with not turning you into a human pincussion just asking for it, it is hard to decide between it and FGJ!'s 45 second recharge.
xBakox
xBakox
Lion's Arch Merchant
#5
Awesome picks...but where is IWAY????? j/k

Cant wait to try them out.

Edit: T-Bot, every HA/GvG warrior uses frenzy...
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Empex
Academy Page
#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
Frenzy? Seriously? Good way to get wasted quick, fast, and in a hurry - you take double damage from sources that ignore armor and thus have no variation in damage.
1) Noone targets warriors in pvp - any decent player should be able to judge whenever he/she is going to be attacked. Hint, it's not while the mesmer or monk on your team is alive, and probably not until most other casters are down too.

2) The cover stance in that build can be activated whenever you start taking damage.
Mr_T_bot
Mr_T_bot
Banned
#7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empex
2) The cover stance in that build can be activated whenever you start taking damage.
Yes, run away!
Dr Strangelove
Dr Strangelove
Furnace Stoker
#8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empex
1) Noone targets warriors in pvp - any decent player should be able to judge whenever he/she is going to be attacked. Hint, it's not while the mesmer or monk on your team is alive, and probably not until most other casters are down too.
In arenas I take great pleasure in air spiking frenzy warriors. An orb hitting one of them using healing sig can easily get in the mid 200s. It's a good thing, and completely catches monks offguard.
Loch
Loch
Krytan Explorer
#9
Frenzy works fine if you're not a fool. It's that simple.

The premade lineup certainly looks to be good quality. Let's hope that new PvP players learn a thing or two from these. Like, for example, they can learn how to stance-cancel out of Frenzy when they're under fire.
The truth itself
The truth itself
Krytan Explorer
#10
Hot Stepper has no lead attack.


Frenzy is one of the best warrior skills. That is a fact.
Sekkira
Sekkira
Forge Runner
#11
Frenzy is not only a viable skill in pvp, but an essential one for a warrior to dish out massive damage to your target (be it a giant enemy crab or whatnot). It has no real drawbacks other than double damage which can be cured with another stance such as sprint, which also doubles to chase your target down and knock them over to finish them off (personally I prefer bull's strike, but I wont deny that shock is just as effective).

EDIT by Swehurn - Flame removed. Play nice.
Mysterial
Mysterial
Wilds Pathfinder
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Empex
1) Noone targets warriors in pvp - any decent player should be able to judge whenever he/she is going to be attacked. Hint, it's not while the mesmer or monk on your team is alive, and probably not until most other casters are down too.

2) The cover stance in that build can be activated whenever you start taking damage.
The problem is that premades are largely for newbies and most newbies probably do not understand stance cancelling and from how many of them take the Paladin premade, they probably don't understand that they aren't going to be targeted over a caster, either.

Also, I don't think Frenzy is a particularly good idea in RA, where a lot of those newbies play, both because there is often no monk and also because of the volume of damage causing warrior hate (e.g. Ineptitude) that's present.
Red Locust
Red Locust
Site Contributor
#13
Very nice. Finally, some actually good premades
Props to EW.

Myst: the only way to get better is to practice. If the newbies never get to use frenzy in pvp situations, they'll never learn how to use it and will be missing out on a huge skill. Better to learn the hard way than to never learn at all.
JR
JR
Re:tired
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by The truth itself
Hot Stepper has no lead attack.
Golden Phoenix Strike does not require a lead attack.

And Frenzy is good.
H
Hollerith
Lion's Arch Merchant
#15
I thought it was a well known fact that Frenzy was one of the best W skills in game. Guess that was my bad.

But even though the cover stance is a pretty good choice, that build seems too simple. I think Anet just wants to promote Charge!.

Nice to see the AoD build in there, and a bit ambivalent to see the AoE smite build.
Ray
Ray
Wilds Pathfinder
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by The truth itself
Hot Stepper has no lead attack.
It has an off-hand attack, that you can use in the same way as a 'Lead-attack', requires an enchantment though (Aura of Displacement).
Loch
Loch
Krytan Explorer
#17
Quote:
The problem is that premades are largely for newbies and most newbies probably do not understand stance cancelling and from how many of them take the Paladin premade, they probably don't understand that they aren't going to be targeted over a caster, either.

Also, I don't think Frenzy is a particularly good idea in RA, where a lot of those newbies play, both because there is often no monk and also because of the volume of damage causing warrior hate (e.g. Ineptitude) that's present.
I think it's good to teach new players how to actually play the game. Good players learn things by both successes and failures - I'm sure most players will eventually master their use of Frenzy, and they'll be better for it.
unholy guardian
unholy guardian
Jungle Guide
#18
some nice pre-builds although the aod thingy kina got nerfed already
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fallot
I'm the king
#19
Yay for premades that don't suck, now I can get friends to play the game and not be gimped from the start. I'm a little sad though that the Dervish, Paragon and Ritualist will remain in ANet's uh.. capable hands.
F
Former Ruling
Grotto Attendant
#20
They won't implement popular builds as direct premades.

Premades are ALWAYS gimped in some fashion, to promote having to buy/unlock further skills to tweak them with.