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The Son Of Morgoth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Maryland

The Servants Of Morgoth

N/

28 Jul 2006 at 01:51 - 1

Please do not make this thread into a Flamewars thread which is just Target practice for the Mods. Friendly Opinion/View sharing please.

What are all of your opinions on the latest update?

In my personal opinion i like some of the changes such as the trade window being a little more scam proof and the guild roster updates but the other updates i dont feel were needed. Well i guess i could adjust to the new login screens...

However i really do not like the new UI. The poison/disease/bleeding colors are so different they dont really stand out. I see no reason also to have changed how the hp bars/energy bars/party bars look. As a Monk its now even harder to target your party. The effects and bars are also a little dull colored, its harder to see the names of the people you are fighting and i know i will have a problem playing late and night now. Also the new "rainbow effect" when seeing other people cast spells is not something i enjoy very much. Though i know some people who like it, its just making things harder to read in pvp...for example i didnt realize that a monk was using energy drain until i hovered my icon over it, since the icon itself was so hard to see with rainbow effects everywhere. Hmmmmmmmm.......Now that i think about it........this new ui kind of reminds me of World of Warcraft's ui .....especially the colors....... anyone else notice this? A-net trying to woo the WoW crowd

I know many people like the new UI. But if you are going to keep it at least please make there an option under F11 to go back to the old settings?

In my opinion as with most of a-nets updates the update has been bittersweet. Some things are good and some bad. The lag is not a huge problem, its just the rush to download the update. O well please also share your views with us

In summary i believe the update was well made except for the UI changes (Ew have u noticed the Hex Degen color? Its barftastic Dull Purple now Yuck.)

TalonTheCat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Black Cat Guild

Mo/

28 Jul 2006 at 01:56 - 2

I like the UI changes - to each his/her own.

The Son Of Morgoth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Maryland

The Servants Of Morgoth

N/

28 Jul 2006 at 02:27 - 3

Yes to each his own....

Also with the discovery of the naked gw man i kinda like that update 2

Lots of fun abusing him tonight.

And i also really love the secondary profession changer in the temple of Balth now since even pvp chars can use it

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shadowfell

hamonite anur ruk

Join Date: Jan 2006

Echovald Forest

[PhD] Teh Academy

Me/A

28 Jul 2006 at 02:27 - 4

I like the trade window changes, hopefully this will help a lot of people.

I do not like the gui effects.. they're distracting.

I do not like the new and improved lag... impossible to get even a simple mission done now.

I did not like the sneaky hair changes.

I do not like how certain smite skills are only nerfed for weekend.. should be permanent ^^

Ozric

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

Phoolz Like Us

E/Me

28 Jul 2006 at 02:53 - 5

I don't care for the new GUI either, it's not easy on the eyes at all. I considered turning my Party window off just because I didn't like looking at it, just got a general 'yuk' feeling when I did. Also don't care for everything fading to black and white after a death, can't tell which monsters are the bosses until after I'm rezzed.

I'd agree with Morgoth in that since we've had several UI changes since GW was released, that having an option to choose one would seem a viable option at this point.

There seems to be a slight delay now when clicking to zoom out on the map,...maybe this has to do with the new key binding thing?

Saw a bit of lag,...maybe due to everyone downloading the update,...seems to get less noticeable after some playtime.

I do like that we now have the ability to select software/hardware sound rendering and EAX.

jaibas17

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tampico, Mexico

Blood Eagle [BE]

W/Mo

28 Jul 2006 at 03:06 - 6

shadowfell, can you post what you liked then?

Kuja

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

MA

Kame

Mo/W

28 Jul 2006 at 03:12 - 7

I Agree with everything... The Borders around the party window players hurts my eyes.

The Casting Bar though nicely coloured makes it harder to see when someone starts casting.

Everything is dull and hard to see..

There should be an option "Classic" simple colors easy to see.

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

28 Jul 2006 at 03:13 - 8

We should be able to customize elements of the UI colors rather than have them dictated to us. I didnt like the little triangle icon additions to some of the skills either, back when it happened. Totally unneccessary for me, and by and large, my UI philosophy is to have it as transparent visually during play as possible. Loud =/= better. Everyone is different so before implementing changes like these I also wish the customization option would be put into play as well.

DamFiNo

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Florida

28 Jul 2006 at 03:16 - 9

I like most of the changes and I will get used to the ones I don't like.

I absolutely abhor the lag! I am in the field looking around, running 35-60 fps, decide to move and within 3-4 steps my fps has dropped to less than 1. Sure hope this clears up. Soon.

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

28 Jul 2006 at 03:19 - 10

I think the party menu needs to be colored a bit more brightly, right now it's too dark.

Phrozen_

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Hi Tech Nednecks [HTR]

28 Jul 2006 at 03:24 - 11

I only mind the rainbow effect - it has to go.. or an option should be implemented which would allow us to go back to the old one

hobbitshd

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Florida

Vandal Hearts [VH]

R/Mo

28 Jul 2006 at 03:30 - 12

the new options screen is good.
switching 2nd for pvp char's is nice too.

i like the fact that they have NEVER nerfed 'iway' but find it necessary to nerf any other build that comes about... hmmmm a bit of sarcasm there?

anyway...seems like a huge download for minor graphic 'improvements'. maybe should have held off on the graphic stuff and just set up for the pvp event because of the serious lag everyone seems to be having.

did i mention that i dont like the fact that they try and puss every build except iway - simply amazing.. and yet it happens again!!!

would love to have seen some improvement to the economy/store/selling/buying ... not sure what i want but a perfect green that sells for 1k is not what i want..

bilbo

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

28 Jul 2006 at 03:48 - 13

Im just skimming through. I do NOT LIKE THE HEX COLOR, Nor the green thing with long spell casts. Hexes are too lightish pink and i think it needs adjusting.

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

28 Jul 2006 at 04:25 - 14

give us back the old UI. don't fix what's not broken~

The Son Of Morgoth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Maryland

The Servants Of Morgoth

N/

28 Jul 2006 at 04:31 - 15

Nice to see other people agreeing with my point ^_^. Yes please A-net give us back the old UI or give us an option to revert to "classic" This new one really hurts my eyes its not about adapting its just truthfully giving me an iffy feeling.

Shigernafy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Temple of the Ages

R/

28 Jul 2006 at 04:31 - 16

I liked the death effect and...
Nope, thats about it.
Im hoping for:
1. Mix and Match the new and old UI
2. Switch back and forth between UI
3. Completely revert back to old UI

All the bars, effects, fonts, and even some of the colours are a major step-down for me.

Kula

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

West Coast, USA

Mo/E

28 Jul 2006 at 04:35 - 17

When a party member disconnected it was easier to tell since their lifebar was all greyed out on the party menu when they left. Now it's harder for me to make out with the color changes if they left or if they are just out of compass range.

The rest will take time getting used to... not as easy on the eyes, but meh.

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

28 Jul 2006 at 04:38 - 18

From 30min experience with new UI, I like it quite a lot. Maybe the colours in the party window when you're dead or left the game are bit too similars but otherwise everything feels more beautiful.

But yes, option to change UI would be nice. Maybe manual colour adjustment or templates.

Legendary Necromancer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/Me

28 Jul 2006 at 05:09 - 19

I love the new colors, one of my characters is an interrupt ranger.. and man it gets close sometimes to the point that I don't know if it succeeded, so I can't accurately form a strategy. The colors are very vivid and clear too!

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

28 Jul 2006 at 05:19 - 20

OH GOD, THE PURPLE O.O

It burns ;_;

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

28 Jul 2006 at 05:58 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowfell

I do not like how certain smite skills are only nerfed for weekend.. should be permanent ^^

hrmm mah wah wah?

Kruzing Low

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

28 Jul 2006 at 06:22 - 22

i like everything
the hair, classes, skills, interface, tweaked options, etc
the only thing that bothers me and thats major is the intense lag im getting in RA during battle

The Ice Master

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Step On Puppies [PuP]

E/Me

28 Jul 2006 at 06:30 - 23

Keep in mind the lag issue comes from people in mass numbers downloading the update. The same thing happened during the factions preview weekend event.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

28 Jul 2006 at 06:30 - 24

Could be my imagination, or perhaps a simple lag issue, but it seems that since this update, there is a slight delay between when I hit my hotkey, and when my skill actually is activated. The delay at times seems to be around 1 second... which can be very costly.

Like I said, I could be wrong, but that's how it seems, very frustrating.

carbajac

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Medicine Cabinet [PILL]

E/

28 Jul 2006 at 06:39 - 25

I don't mind so much the rainbow bar as a character is using a skill. I think it looks kinda neat.

But the colors when a degen hex or condition come up, they are duller than they were before, I agree. That was the first thing I noticed since I monk most of the time. I mean, I can still tell that there is something wrong with my team-mate, I guess it's just something I have to get used to.

angshuman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

28 Jul 2006 at 06:55 - 26

I definitely like the new colors. Overall the game looks a little more slick and polished (which it was already, but Anet's UI guys keep outdoing themselves). It might seem a bit distracting at first but I'm sure we'll get used to the changes, they're not that radical anyway.

The only thing I don't like are the minimize/maximize/exit buttons that they carried over from the Factions interface. The Prophecies buttons were OK, then they brought in the dull blue ones that look like something straight out of Windows 3.11. The new UI is all slick and glassy and shiny, but those 3 dull, ugly buttons remain at the top right corner of the screen and in some dialog boxes. The color scheme used on Slider controls (e.g., in the Sound Quality slider) is also similar: dull with huge ugly bevels.

Celios

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Black Crescent [BC]

28 Jul 2006 at 06:58 - 27

Could we please stop screwing unnecessarily with the GUI already? All it does is make things harder to use. It's good already, stop "fixing" it. -_-

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

28 Jul 2006 at 07:01 - 28

My main gripe with the new UI is that it was different and not what I was used to. It didn't take long to adjust, and once I did it was fine. I just don't understand why it needed to be changed when it was fine before.

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

28 Jul 2006 at 07:16 - 29

I love the new GUI, think it looks way better than before

prodigy ming

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

28 Jul 2006 at 07:26 - 30

What is the sneaky hair change...?

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

28 Jul 2006 at 07:42 - 31

I think ANet should distribute tranquilizer, preferrably something based on diazepine, as it's addictive and a lot of people here really need to keep taking chill pills on a regular basis, with each update.

BowLad21

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

28 Jul 2006 at 07:43 - 32

I can't interrupt any more. When I see the colors changing I think that I have already interrupted, but I end up throwing down my interrupts while he's sitting around. Please, remove the pain.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

28 Jul 2006 at 07:48 - 33

I'll get used to the new GUI I guess. I just don't want to get used to it. I don't like it.

Sister Brianne

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Twisted Misfits

Mo/Me

28 Jul 2006 at 10:08 - 34

I love the fact that you can tell when a skill finnishes casting. That way you can tell weather or not you got eh inturrupt in at the last second.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

28 Jul 2006 at 11:23 - 35

People cant seem to take change it seems, always something to complain about when something is changed. I like the new GUI, I was getting tired of the same old interface. But yeah, it would be nice to be able to pick your style of GUI. Then maybe people will stop complaining everytime ANET changes the look.

Smoke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Down Under

Rt/

28 Jul 2006 at 12:53 - 36

I dont mind the update, the worst things i can think of is the server lag, casting lag, and "targeting" key is gone. IE:

Im targeting "xxxxxxx"

only thing thats left is:

Im attacking "xxxxxxx"
Im talking to "xxxxxxx"

im sure the targeting was explained on 1 of the missons on the noob island, now no one can even execute it, hope its just a bug and will be fixed soon.

otherwise im looking to further updates

The Son Of Morgoth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Maryland

The Servants Of Morgoth

N/

28 Jul 2006 at 13:11 - 37

Most of the discussion seems to be about the UI

Anyone have any comments on the other updates?

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

28 Jul 2006 at 13:17 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Could be my imagination, or perhaps a simple lag issue, but it seems that since this update, there is a slight delay between when I hit my hotkey, and when my skill actually is activated. The delay at times seems to be around 1 second... which can be very costly.

Like I said, I could be wrong, but that's how it seems, very frustrating.

I've noticed that as well, been pressing keys twice as it looks like it didnt activate on the first press - fix this plz!!!

The best thing about the original update before the "fix" was the Naked Dude in Bukdek Byway, whats the story behind that then, who was he?, where did he come from? and what was his purpose apart from scaring Canthan Children, perhaps someone could elaborate on this and come up with a story relating to him

Aerian_Skybane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

House of Caeruleous [HoC]

R/E

28 Jul 2006 at 13:27 - 39

Hey everyone, I have not been able to play with the new ui/pvp weekend, anyone mind showin me some screenies of the new UI effects as im sitting here anxious to play but at work

Thanks in advance.

Im just reading this and proof would be nice to view to sway my opinion so i can flame too!

swiftygem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

28 Jul 2006 at 13:32 - 40

I noticed the lag in skills activation too, I hope it's just a generic lag caused by high traffic during the event. As for the UI look, I find it quite good, and the fact that teams with MMs dont have to skip cinematics anymore even better.