Paragon armor petition
k3nn3tH123
I'm going to be straightfoward, the new male paragons have really skimpy armor, and don't look like they give the 80 armor they're suppose to. Many people have referred to the profession as "male strippers" or "male hoes" simply because their armor doesn't cover all parts of the body like warriors. I know the paragon is suppose to be in an African/Roman theme, but the visual appearance makes this profession really unappealing.
This petition is to get ANet to add at least a few full body armor sets for the paragon males, or at least add full leggings and boots.
This petition is to get ANet to add at least a few full body armor sets for the paragon males, or at least add full leggings and boots.
Flabber Babble
Well, mostly a matter of opinion. I find the look very exotic, but still appealing. And it does cover more than the Male Gladiator armor (in fact this armor looks like true gladiator's armor) but I don't think full body sets / leggings would fit with the Paragon's theme (which as you are aware is a more Roman / Greek look)
Tetris L
/not signed
The light armor fits with the historical paradigm of Greek/Roman/Arab/... fighters.
Try to fight with heavy full body knight armor in a desert area. Good luck!
The light armor fits with the historical paradigm of Greek/Roman/Arab/... fighters.
Try to fight with heavy full body knight armor in a desert area. Good luck!
dreamhunk
pargons are divine beings! soarmors are not a problem!
Eclair
Plus, maybe a lot of female players like having a skimpily dressed male character for once <.< >.>
k3nn3tH123
I know the armor goes with the theme, that's why I said to add only a few sets of full body armor, while still keeping other sets the way they are. They don't have to make all the armors full body.
dreamhunk
I have to say I don't like the shields too thin
samifly
Why just for the males?
TreeDude
Funny I thought this thread would be to lower the armor stats. 80 armor for a ranged class seems too high to me. Then the dervish has 70 when they are melee? Doesn't make sence to me.
But on topic, its just cosmetic. Honestly some of the female armores are pretty skimpy and have the same stats as male. They look cool I don't think it needs to be to scale. It's just a game.
To samifly,
I love Skies of Arcadia, you rock.
But on topic, its just cosmetic. Honestly some of the female armores are pretty skimpy and have the same stats as male. They look cool I don't think it needs to be to scale. It's just a game.
To samifly,
I love Skies of Arcadia, you rock.
k3nn3tH123
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Originally Posted by samifly
Why just for the males?
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dreamhunk
pargons die easy turst me nothing like a devish LOL they are not made for front lind combat
about time they made cool good looking class! now the girls can be checking me out! for a change
about time they made cool good looking class! now the girls can be checking me out! for a change
Evilsod
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Originally Posted by TreeDude
Funny I thought this thread would be to lower the armor stats.
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Ranger
Less armour against ele
Less armour against physical
2 Handed weapon
Paragon
More armour against ele
More armour against physical
1 Handed weapon
Yeah sure... because that works.
Horseman Of War
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Originally Posted by k3nn3tH123
I'm going to be straightfoward, the new male paragons have really skimpy armor, and don't look like they give the 80 armor they're suppose to. Many people have referred to the profession as "male strippers" or "male hoes" simply because their armor doesn't cover all parts of the body like warriors. I know the paragon is suppose to be in an African/Roman theme, but the visual appearance makes this profession really unappealing.
This petition is to get ANet to add at least a few full body armor sets for the paragon males, or at least add full leggings and boots. |
YOU CANT WEAR FULL ARMOR IN THE DESERT.
Solar_Takfar
actually, based on the screenshots we had yesterday of the templar armor, I thought the Paras looked really effeminate (short blouse+short skirt+sandals+dislocated hip in standing position). I've been playing them now and I can say ingame it doesn't really fell that way, especially with the other armors, so, all the better.
Zoron Stormbringer
/not signed.
Someone said it, you can't wear full armor in the desert. Plus if they are divine beings, it makes sense.
In addition, if the armor is roman themed, then its perfect.
Someone said it, you can't wear full armor in the desert. Plus if they are divine beings, it makes sense.
In addition, if the armor is roman themed, then its perfect.
MalVeauX
I think the current armor is simply the way it is to simply "have" something ready to go. You'll notice it's not very detailed, simple, not that great. But the overall idea of it is nice. It's clean. Think about how good 15k or better Paragon armor will look. It will look fantastic.
Who's the first guy out there with "I am Sparticus!" name? I want him to post and say so. If not, hell, I'll make it! That's what it looks like!
Anyhow, I do have a complaint. The headpiece. What in the name of bloody cow milk is that thing? A centurion has a thick helmet. I want to see some cool sleek helmets with gold trim and all that. With simple, flexible armor, light spears and a shield. Very "Gladiator." The way I'd expect it, for a game.
Give us cool helments! None of this Ele-poo-crystal stuff!
Who's the first guy out there with "I am Sparticus!" name? I want him to post and say so. If not, hell, I'll make it! That's what it looks like!
Anyhow, I do have a complaint. The headpiece. What in the name of bloody cow milk is that thing? A centurion has a thick helmet. I want to see some cool sleek helmets with gold trim and all that. With simple, flexible armor, light spears and a shield. Very "Gladiator." The way I'd expect it, for a game.
Give us cool helments! None of this Ele-poo-crystal stuff!
Scutilla
If the female versions of 15k Gladiator and 15k Druid can give 100 AL versus physical and elemental respectively, I have no problem with the Paragon armor giving 80 AL.
Funny how everyone loves the skimpy female outfits, but there's all sorts of complaints when the males have light armor.
Funny how everyone loves the skimpy female outfits, but there's all sorts of complaints when the males have light armor.
Nevin
/notsigned
LaserLight
Agreed with the masses. The Paragon derives from an Africanized culture and seems to sport elements of Roman armor as well. Out in the hot and sweaty, wearing full plate armor will kill you in minutes. Hell, wearing what the Paragon does would do nasty things to your core temperature. African warriors wore zilch-all nothing for a reason, ye know .
Let the Paragons keep their light plate. They're a very interesting class right now, both play-wise and in appearance, a unique thing. I vote they stay that way.
Let the Paragons keep their light plate. They're a very interesting class right now, both play-wise and in appearance, a unique thing. I vote they stay that way.
Solar_Takfar
The armor doesn't have much to do with roman legionary armor, tho. Sure, he wears a skirt and sandals (which are very different from roman equivalents), but that's about it. None of the armors look like lorica hamata or lorica segmentata. You could compared some of them with muscled breastplates, used by most ancient mediterranean armies, but even then it's not quite the same.
Kha
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Originally Posted by Scutilla
If the female versions of 15k Gladiator and 15k Druid can give 100 AL versus physical and elemental respectively, I have no problem with the Paragon armor giving 80 AL.
Funny how everyone loves the skimpy female outfits, but there's all sorts of complaints when the males have light armor. |
Hidden in the Mist
/No
Deal with it.
Deal with it.
Caleb
wow... maybe wait to see the other armor choices upcoming before freaking out?
some guy
they look like roman legionaire armor which is pretty good looking, but i agree it needs to cover more skin
Vilaptca
How many armor sets do the Assassins and Ritualists have?
13.
How many were we shown during the previews?
3-4.
You have seen barely anything of what the Paragon is going to get in Nightfall. Look at armor sets like Druids, one is full body, but the 15k is all skin. The chances of there being at least a couple full body, or at least less skin sets is very high.
13.
How many were we shown during the previews?
3-4.
You have seen barely anything of what the Paragon is going to get in Nightfall. Look at armor sets like Druids, one is full body, but the 15k is all skin. The chances of there being at least a couple full body, or at least less skin sets is very high.
Quid Pro Quo
/notsigned
First off as other people have said you can't wear full armor in the desert and Paragons are a mix of roman and african. The armor fits perfectly. Besides the girls have to deal with always being nude and they don't complain.
First off as other people have said you can't wear full armor in the desert and Paragons are a mix of roman and african. The armor fits perfectly. Besides the girls have to deal with always being nude and they don't complain.
Magnus_1
/signed... sort of
I get the fact that these guys are in the desert, but it would be nice if their shirts covered their stomachs. I really don't think that would be too much too ask.
And honestly, the Dervish armor is more like what people actually wear in North Africa anyways. Bedouins don't wear skimpy clothes because it's hot; they are covered from head to toe. I'm not a fan of the Paragon look, but I guess I'm in the minority.
And like Solar_Takfar said: there is no resemblance to Roman Legionaire armor. If Paragon armor did look more Roman, that would be pretty nice.
I get the fact that these guys are in the desert, but it would be nice if their shirts covered their stomachs. I really don't think that would be too much too ask.
And honestly, the Dervish armor is more like what people actually wear in North Africa anyways. Bedouins don't wear skimpy clothes because it's hot; they are covered from head to toe. I'm not a fan of the Paragon look, but I guess I'm in the minority.
And like Solar_Takfar said: there is no resemblance to Roman Legionaire armor. If Paragon armor did look more Roman, that would be pretty nice.
Quid Pro Quo
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Originally Posted by Magnus_1
/signed... sort of
I get the fact that these guys are in the desert, but it would be nice if their shirts covered their stomachs. I really don't think that would be too much too ask. And like Solar_Takfar said: there is no resemblance to Roman Legionaire armor. If Paragon armor did look more Roman, that would be pretty nice. |
African warrior mixed with
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Roman armor
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So to me it would seem Nightfall is going to take place in an African area along with the Dervish who seem to have an Arabian Knights feel to them. So African/Arabian theme.
Markaedw
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
That was what i thought too actually. It has ALOT better protection against elemental attack than a ranger and better protection against physical too. It has a 1handed ranged weapon... Sorry but this is just not balanced.
Ranger Less armour against ele Less armour against physical 2 Handed weapon Paragon More armour against ele More armour against physical 1 Handed weapon Yeah sure... because that works. |
Rangers have a base 70 and +30 vs ele attack +15 vs specific element
Cathan armor also has a set with +10 while in stance, with Dryders defense rangers can go over 180 armor against ele attack.
The only thing Paragons have over ranger is the base, which can be countered with Sentry armor base 70 +30 vs ele +10 while in stance
Paragons have a base 80 and +10 vs ele and +10 vs specific elememnt.
Face it these new guys got nothing
AW Lore
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Originally Posted by Scutilla
Funny how everyone loves the skimpy female outfits, but there's all sorts of complaints when the males have light armor.
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leave the armor as they are.
dreamhunk
yup the style is good I like it, Now all the girls can check out the sexy pargon LOL
GQ all the way
GQ all the way
Fluffyx
I believe the paragon armor should not even be 80, first of all its mostly a support class. Another large reason is that it is a ranged fighter. Why would a ranged support role class need 80 armor in the first place. I believe that it should be more like 70 armor, and the dervish 60 armor.
Markaedw
/not signed, there is nothing wrong with the look of the armor, but it should be more along the lines of warrior armor, same goes to dervish
MMSDome
/not signed
Umm how do memser armors like enchanters armor give anything at all. Also how does glads armor give 80 armor when you can stuick a sword right in the stomach because nothing covers it...
You have really no case in comparison with the other armors. I myself am already saving up for Paragon Obsidian armor because i love the class and the armor i think its awsome.
Umm how do memser armors like enchanters armor give anything at all. Also how does glads armor give 80 armor when you can stuick a sword right in the stomach because nothing covers it...
You have really no case in comparison with the other armors. I myself am already saving up for Paragon Obsidian armor because i love the class and the armor i think its awsome.
LordLucifer
honestly i dont see anything wrong with it, like som1 said, try wearing a full plate in the desert, i give you less than 15 mins of life...
besides ranger base armor=70 and its like leather and stuff
paragon is a lil heavier and its 80, looks fine to me (not to mention rangers monster bonuses against elemental and the stances.. warriors got 100 physical base+good armor boosting skills and stances)
bw any1 checked spears range? (really didnt have time to play it yet..)
oh and dont think warriors armor should be seen as 80+20 against physical, but as 100-20 against elemental (most cases)
they wear heavy stuff, just wouldnt be so effective against fire melting you inside...or a lightning all over your metal armor...or ice doing the oposite of fire (brrrr) maybe hearth since it could be considered physical dmg, but then again, fill the empty spots in your armor with loads of sand or stuff like that and you would move like a rock lol..
besides ranger base armor=70 and its like leather and stuff
paragon is a lil heavier and its 80, looks fine to me (not to mention rangers monster bonuses against elemental and the stances.. warriors got 100 physical base+good armor boosting skills and stances)
bw any1 checked spears range? (really didnt have time to play it yet..)
oh and dont think warriors armor should be seen as 80+20 against physical, but as 100-20 against elemental (most cases)
they wear heavy stuff, just wouldnt be so effective against fire melting you inside...or a lightning all over your metal armor...or ice doing the oposite of fire (brrrr) maybe hearth since it could be considered physical dmg, but then again, fill the empty spots in your armor with loads of sand or stuff like that and you would move like a rock lol..
Jin Of Stealth
Just be glad that the paragons arent wearing just loincloths or even worse....the tribal version of the g-string....O.o
LaserLight
Granted, bedouin wear all sorts of clothes, but those cloths are robes made of very light, breathable material, in an exceedingly dry heat. Their clothing is more meant to hold moisture than to protect from heat.
The Paragons aren't wearing full robes, but what they are wearing is a combination of leather and metal plate. NOT desert clothes. Besides, the things are slightly more than human, remember. The Paragon is just that - an icon of Elonian culture. Impressive counts for more than practical here
The Paragons aren't wearing full robes, but what they are wearing is a combination of leather and metal plate. NOT desert clothes. Besides, the things are slightly more than human, remember. The Paragon is just that - an icon of Elonian culture. Impressive counts for more than practical here
clarianaeneas
/signed....the paragons look like they're wearing female aeromancer skirts. They're supposed to be ANGELIC, not look like fairies.
for those who said it matches the theme....roman warriors/spearmen look like this....
Do you see a sparkly semi-transparent skirt with a huge opening in the front? No. I didn't think so. I wouldn't mind the Paragons looking like that.
for those who said it matches the theme....roman warriors/spearmen look like this....
Do you see a sparkly semi-transparent skirt with a huge opening in the front? No. I didn't think so. I wouldn't mind the Paragons looking like that.
Goonter
Ill agree that the armor avalivable is sort of feminin especally for todays standard. Its the most man hoeish outfits ive seen yet.
But its pretty cool looking too. In fact, there armor is much more "lovely" than just about anything else in the game, imo.
I can go with the flow with the elona culture.
Im just glad that while looking androgenous they do so looking absolutly FABULOOOOUS! lol
by the way, the idea that armor protects how it looks is extemely loose in gw costume design
But its pretty cool looking too. In fact, there armor is much more "lovely" than just about anything else in the game, imo.
I can go with the flow with the elona culture.
Im just glad that while looking androgenous they do so looking absolutly FABULOOOOUS! lol
by the way, the idea that armor protects how it looks is extemely loose in gw costume design
TGgold
TOTALL UNSIGNED
I enjoy looking at my Para, thank you, and if you want a shirt that completely covers, look at the third armor choice. It covers the tummy all the way :P
I like the armors ANET, and for the guys complaining.....they're probably going to make girls to oogle at anyways. Let's do the girls (and gay guys) a favor!
Also...they look holy, and pretty, and heavenly, and whatnot. I think it suits the characters just fine. I just get so angry when so many people complain about this...and ignore the Glads armor on guys O___O At least the Para is HOT, not BIG AND UGLY.
Plus...my Mesmer could use a boyfriend xD
MY ONLY CHANGE would be their underwear. It's like...lacy O_O
I enjoy looking at my Para, thank you, and if you want a shirt that completely covers, look at the third armor choice. It covers the tummy all the way :P
I like the armors ANET, and for the guys complaining.....they're probably going to make girls to oogle at anyways. Let's do the girls (and gay guys) a favor!
Also...they look holy, and pretty, and heavenly, and whatnot. I think it suits the characters just fine. I just get so angry when so many people complain about this...and ignore the Glads armor on guys O___O At least the Para is HOT, not BIG AND UGLY.
Plus...my Mesmer could use a boyfriend xD
MY ONLY CHANGE would be their underwear. It's like...lacy O_O