Nightfall Pre-release bonus pack

By "special stuff", I assume you mean the Wallpapers, screenshots, etc., that will probably be found on the internet anyway.

Your bonus items and bonus slot (the main reason to buy the pre-release), will come in the form of a Code you enter into your GW account. Don't even need a CD to get those...

I think ppl should chill and go with the flow, to much talking about things that will come in the furture....uhhhhh just w8 and you will see, I think that A.net makes enough pre releas or pre order paks so every one could get one if they want and you will get enough time to find out what is inside that pack and if you want it or not, so just wait a bit longer .

And for "morte" and every 1 else, 1001 nights is an onld persian story and not arabian and there is no arabian nights. like Arabs have allmost no story that is good enough to remember. plz search on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page or google.com before you say something like that -.-, so are lost of other storys on the count of the arabians (in ppl mind) and not to ppl who made the story's that makes me sad.

sorry the last part was a bit off topic.

Last time around it was a pre-order pack, it cost 5 bucks. This time around it's the full price pre-release pack. To get the pre-release you have to pay the full price of the game. So really there is a pre-order for the pre-release pack, which automatically includes the final release. For 5 bucks you can pre-order the pre-release, then when the game ships you go and pick up (or have delivered to you) the final. This is my understanding of it anyway...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Arabian_Nights.jpg

I dont wanna start a fight, im just posting what i found following your suggestion of searching in wikipedia. 1001 nights and arabian nights are both names of the pretty same collection of neverending stories (the differences come from different compilers or english "translators").

Back to topic: i really dont know whats going on with pre, pre-pre and so on. Guess ill wait till september for clearer explanations. Please let me know if you figure out how does it work in Europe, UK in particular, because all i know is this from gameplay:

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/...rs_-_nightfall

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/...ectors_edition

As some have pointed out, it is far from clear what do you get.

HERE IS THE IMPORTANT PART FROM GW

that means whatever eb/gamestop/etc are doing now that RETAIL BOX will be for sale at all stores and we will finally find out how much it will cost and what all the different store conditions (preorder/no preorder) are

then we can decide where to buy it

yeah you can get them bundled by ordering the "retail+starter kit" according to EB and Gamestop... not sure if they split shipments tho...

i figure im safe, since Im getting the pre-release kit from amazon, and the CE from EB.... i might pay an extra 2 dollars shipping this way, but at least i know exactly what i can expect.

By the text itself though I get the impression you only get the slot when this is associated with an account with nightfall on it. Ie chp1+chp2+this alone, if I'm not reading too much into it, doesn't look like gets you anything outside a preview. Put it all together and you get slot + (useable) new class weapon.

Yeah; it's already been confirmed several times you don't get the bonus slot til you add your Nightfall retail key.

So does that mean if i preorder Nightfall i'll get all the extra things on the quote on the first page or do i have to preorder CE to get it? I'm confused i've never preorder GW before... >.<

Wow, let's take a look at this then.

Let's say you want the special items associated with the pre-release. The only way to get them is to pay the extra $5 for the pre-release box. Of course you are also getting a slot for cheaper than what ANET sells, but if you didn't want the slot, then you would have NO choice.

Unlike Factions, where there existed a 'pre-order' that included everything this NightFall 'pre-release' includes minus the slot, the Factions pre-order most importantly allowed you to basically put a downpayment on the retail Factions game (example: if you paid $5 for the 'pre-order box', it would take $5 off retail Factions game), whereas this NightFall release you are paying an extra $5.

Basically you are committed to paying $5, and that $5 becomes free to ANET if you decide NOT to purchase the retail NightFall game. Let's not kid ourselves. Take a look at the Factions pre-order box, which was available to buy for $1 free shipping at Amazon at the time of release. With this option, if you chose not to purchase the retail Factions game, you still would be able to access the preorder items by typing in 'preorder' command.

If you decide you will not be buying NightFall, due to a change of heart, via a PvE Weekend (if they even plan to have one) or some other measure, then you are pretty much screwed out of $4, since the bonus slot is not activated unless you have merged it with an existing NightFall retail release!

* Unless you are supremely positive you are purchasing the NightFall retail game, I strongly suggest not merging the 'pre-release' bonus slot key until your decision is confirmed. Also take into account that ANET/NCSoft are strongly against selling account keys, it would be difficult, but not impossible, to sell the bonus slot key. You have nothing to lose by waiting, unless you really must play around with the special weapons.*

(Of course information can change. They may allow the bonus slot key to be available during a PvE Weekend, and possibly ONLY during that timeframe, until a NF retail key has been merged.)

I will concede this: I think it does not cost NCSoft/ANET much to produce these 'pre-order/'pre-release' boxes. This is because I believe they are considered promotional items, which is why EBGames can practically 'give' them away with the purchase of the retail game. Adding the bonus key here is what drove the price ("value") up on these packages. The marketing team over at NCSoft/ANET really came up with a doozy of a plan to ensure their sales, and I believe we will NOT be seeing a 'pre-order box' (similar to the Factions release) after every GW chapter release anymore.

-cko
consumer adovate-

Well it will probably cost for this bonus pack, since it has an extra character slot and all.. we'll see what happens..

I'm not seeing why anyone wouldn't want to buy Nightfall, or for that matter why they would preorder a game they weren't sure they wanted.

You guys are lucky, nowhere over here I have found is selling, or going to be selling the Pre-release pack, just orders on CE or SE. Also the good store which sold factions CE for a lowly £29 (thats $55 roughly) isnt listing it yet.

Guess im gonna be buying £49 CE :-S

The pre-release pack doesn't go on sale til September 15. The hapless clerks might not know about it now but it's possible they will carry it.

As far as I know, I put down a deposit for AU$10.00 per copy of nightfall, which, as far as I'm aware, will get me the pre-order when it comes out. course, there's the whole thing where I ordered it shortly after hearing talk about preorders and EB's had to actually check that nightfall will exist.

So now I'm just waiting to haunt them on the 15th to see if the 'little' hickup that happened last time here is sorted out this time and we get our preorde.

Well, at least here in Finland we don't have to pay anything for preordering Nightfall and we still do get that pre-release pack w/slot.

Where are you pre-ordering from, Crusnk?

HERE IS WHERE YOU (AND EVERYBODY WHO THINKS THE SAME) ARE WRONG AND CRUSING FOR A BRUSING

you put down a DEPOSIT which RESERVES you a copy of the retail game when it is released and NOTHING beyond that

note that the GW official press announcement states very clearly that the so called bonus pack is a RETAIL package you will be able to BUY on the shelves sept 15 th

if the store wants to play around and add it as an extra cost so called starter kit like gamestop/eb games that is the stores business but it is available as a 5 dollar (plus s/h) purchase from Amazon

So you pay 5 dollars for the bonus pack and put down 10 dollars deposit to preorder GW nightfall? If thats the case, ill only buy the bonus pack and not preorder Nightfall.

or you can wait until sept 15 th when it is available at stores to decide which store is giving the best deal on a package deal.

I more meant in searching US online game shops you can already order the pre-release, whereas here you can't.

clerk? are you implying I would get off my fat ass and go to a shop!?

Sorry if my post was a bit confusing. ><

Verkkokauppa.com; finnish ppl, just pre-order from there.

With Amazon, didn't you have to buy the full game as well?

If not, they took a hit on that, cause I'm sure it costs more than $1 to ship.

I've theorized before this new "pre-release pack" is a direct answer to companies different wants and needs.

Example: EB Games (and I assume Gamestop), sold the Factions pre-order for $5, which was then deductable off the full game price. You were pre-ordering the game. I suppose you could cancel, get your $5 back (or have it as store credit), and keep the pre-order box, that that seems a pretty lame thing to do. I pre-ordered and bought Factions from EB Games cause I had a gift card there, so it made sense for me.

Best Buy sold their pre-order for $10 (which in my impatience, I bought and ate the cost. Silly me ). You could take the reciept in later to get $10 off Faction if you want.

As for Nightfall pre-release, we don't know for sure how each individual store will handle it. In a game chat, Gaile said each store would sell the pre-release at their discretion, either by itself, or give a deal with the Retail version.

But, I agree with CKO, the best thing to do with Nightfall is the same as Factions, find the best deal out there and buyer beware.

Ok Ok all of this thread is good information. But what I really want to know is:


Is it confirmed that there will be a 24hr preview when the game is about to be released? I partook of the Factions preview and had so much fun getting to cavalon before most ppl even got their copy of the game. can anyone quote someone on this topic?

The haven't released any information on early access yet. But they did it for the last two campaigns so I wouldn't be surprised.

hugs Knightsaber for his calm, collected answer in my time of crisis.

i did that, but the price i found was about £44 for the CE of nightfall. but the description and the picture was the pre-order pack. does this mean that the CE is now the pre order pack? cause i don't think many people will pay £44 for a game they can play for 10 hours and that doesnt include the real game.

didnt you say you were through with this forum and left in a bitter huff?

its not a good grace from anet, in fact youre all payin for the slot on the preorder, since all the other preorder were refundable, so if you get the preorder you pay 9.95 less for full game, now the preorder is not refundable, witch is said since ill pay ten bucks more for a slot i dont need anymore, i bought 3 more for my acount, why do they change this ?
just makes me regret the slots o bought before lol
as anet makes more money kinda looks more and more like a regular like blizzard, lol.

sad sad sad

Hey, can't be free forever, right?

Please be aware that there is the Pre-order (where you put money down for a reserve copy of the game) and the pre-sell (which is a preview copy, trial key, and extra character slot). Money for the pre-sell will go to the the pre-sell only (mainly for the character slot). Money for the pre-order will go towards the cost of the game.

Quoted from EBgames.com::

So far as i can tell, there is NO news on whether or not the CE will have ANY additional in game content like the other chapters had for their CE's. If this is the case i will be purchasing the basic Nightfall game with the Bonus Pack. This combo is not only cheaper then the CE, but i also get additional in game content: a third character slot, trial key for a friend and 2 in-game items. As far as other things, you can see you get tons of other stuff too!

From what is listed, all i get with the CE are non-in-game...JUNK!! Skill pins, who cares? Soundtrack CD, umm, just play the game? Behind the Scenes: Making of the Game DVD, i'd rather play the game, k thx. Map, poster, art book, umm pretty much the same as offered with the Bonus Pack. So tell me again, why the CRAP would i wanna spend more money on the CE then the Game + Bonus Pack combo?!?!?!?! If they don't release news real soon about the CE in-game features, then they will lose a LOT of potential pre-order CE buyers, since they offer little/pitiful incentive. YA, so ill be pre-ording the Combo pack unless i hear other things...

So whatcha all gonna be doing? Cheers!
(EDIT:: I posted this also in the CE thread rather then create a whole new thread for my rant. LoL)

It really went for that much??? I got mine for $0.99 at Target...

I agree, if CE didn't have anything new in game what is the point of getting it.

Whether you can 'see' it or not, there invariably will be some that will not purchase NightFall for one reason or another. Open yourself to all scenarios.

One reason someone may want that 'pre-release' pack is for the special weapons, which I had already stated in the post I had made. People can change their minds on their experience with a trial, or through a PvE weekend event. Thus, we have the matter of the unused bonus key slot leaving the consumer in a tight predicament.

No - for either the pre-order box for Factions or as currently, the 'pre-release' box for NightFall, you are not obligated to purchase the retail game. In fact, I believe if you bought the 'pre' for both GW games at any retailer, you are not obligated to buy the full retail game.

You are correct. It might be lame, but I admit I have done such a thing before, but with a different game. [Harvest Moon -> Cow stuffed animal]

The main point I am trying to get across is that they have limited our consumer options a bit in favor for them selling NightFall retail units. If we EVER decide from the time now to the NightFall release date that we will not buy the game, from disappointment to monetary reasons, and you merged the bonus key, you are screwed unless you buy that retail game. It is a $4 investment that will not return (you lose, ANET/NCS has your $$$) unless you also purchase the retail copy. It would seem that we are getting a bonus slot at a nice half-off price, but they are willing to provide us this slot in order to sell a retail unit (which will return more profit).

This of course will not apply to ignorant fanboys that will purchase every chapter of GW regardless of gross errors, low quality content, broken gameplay mechanics, etc.
Then there are also those that PvP and feel they need every chapter to keep up on the skills or new professions. This reasoning I completely understand.
I on the other hand particularly enjoy keeping a close eye on how I spend my money, and the options that are available to me. I make it a point to inform others as well, since having more choices empowers the consumer, the paramount force all consumers have.

-cko

Hey, I resemble that remark!


And I agree with you. I'm sure when the pre-release is released, someone will find a great deal out there for it, and most of us will pounce on it.

Just to be clear, I have not heard officially that the money we put down for the pre-release will not count towards the Purchase price, or that the pre-release is non-refundable at all stores.

At this point in time, it appears each individual retailer can make that decision.

Oh, and thanks VGameAddict7, I'll check Target for Nightfall deals.

i guess this question/suggestion belongs in this thread. i ask it in the hope that gaile will come along and see it, perhaps enlighten me, and take the suggestion to higher authority ;P

hailing from australia, i was unable to get a preorder key for factions. im sure anet know about the whole australia hubbub.. it was pretty disorganised and sloppy, the underlying reasons for which i can understand.

my question/suggestion is this: is there any way for the ncsoft gw store to 'take preorders' as it were? for example, if i bought nightfall through the ingame store from sept 15th onward (if it is up as early as then), would the interface back there at HQ be able to

A) send me the prerelease keys for the extra character slot and the preorder items immediately, and
B) be able to send me a nightfall access key come release (or a day before, if there is a 'headstart')

being able to preorder via the store would be a great help for international players who simply cant get hold of a preorder package any other way. perhaps if preorders are impossible to take via the store, the prerelease pack could be bundled with orders of nightfall before release. just a few thoughts ;P

The GW store is basically just like the PlayNC store, all you get are the codes, nothing else. You can already buy a slot without having to wait for Nightfall. I'm sure they will offer Nightfall codes once the game is released. Maybe they will offer prerelease codes on the 15th of sept, wait and see.

Check out this thread about Australia and pre-orders and a reply from one of the Anet reps

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s... ht=australia

I don't know about you, but I didn't have to pay any extra for the Factions Pre-order pack... if you really spent $5 extra the store you went to ripped you off. I went to Game Stop, by the way.

Really? Couple of questions to clarify.

Did you get the pre-order for Factions when it came out, or with the actual game?

Did you have to reserve a copy of Factions, or did you literally just walk in the store, pick up the pre-order pack, and walk out?