Enlighten Me, Mobs Holding Weapons Means They Drop It?

Mother_Goose

Mother_Goose

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

Anzac Army Corps [ANZ]

Mo/

Just a small question. Not really sure if this is the right forum or not, just looked like it should be.

If a mob is holding a certain weapon, will that increase the chances of dropping? If a mob isn't holding a certain weapon, will it drop at all?

Personally, I've never really noticed a difference if they are or not. But just from reading around, I've noticed others think otherwise.

Got any theories? Evidence anyone?

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

I have killed Sskai (for example) many times while he's holding his sword, and yet it never drops.

I have seen posts on GuildWiki in areas stating that if they have the weapon they will drop it. However I don't fully believe them. Also, I heard something about the mobs beign changed so that you can no longer tell if they will drop a weapon by just looking.

Edit: I was just reminded of one time when I was killing my Dopple, it had a shield. When I killed it, the sheild dropped for me.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Sometimes an enemy will drop the item it's holding. You get a chance of the drop being:

1) money
2) the weapon or offhand that it's using
3) a trophy (hydra claws, bleached shells, etc)
4) an armor (not all drop armors, and some have multiple armors they can drop, like Sand Giants)
5) some totally random item, including keys and crafting materials
6) nothing at all

So it is possible, but there's a percentage involved. I was farming Grawl yesterday and 2 of them had Righteous Mauls, and you know I was hoping really hard. Well one did drop, but it was a +15% vs hexed, merchant fodder. Ugh.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

before bosses used to drop their greenies only when they have them equiped. anet changed that tho, now bosses have greenies equiped all the time, yet dont drop them all that often .

as for regular monsters, i have had times, when for example, i get hit with an obviously vampiric weapon (that particular time was from a Jade brotherhood knight or whatever they are called), which turned out to be a vampiric halo axe or seomthin (gold one).
also you can see it on smite runs a lot, sometimes smite crawlers have say a divine icon equiped, 100% of the time ive seen it, they drop the same item.

so yes, sometimes

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

R/

If you take bosses who drop green weapons as an example, as far as I have seen a boss that wields a certain weapon will only drop that weapon if he is wielding it. Take Sskai and his sword. It is easy to tell if he is actually wielding the sword or if he is not. Personally I have only seen him drop the sword if it is in his hands.

Of course with some other bosses you cannot tell if they are wielding their green weapon or not.

If this really does apply to bosses and their green weapons, then it should also apply to other mobs too.

This is only my personal observation though and as drops in this game are so totally and utterly random.

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

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The changes are higher is they hold it. Once in a while I see an enemy with FDS and afterwards I see them drop it (not everytime though).

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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This should have been posted in the Q&A fourm, not riverside. Make sure to use to the correct on next time please

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

What exactly makes you sure its his sword? If you want to stand in front of Sskai and get wailed on for a bit to check if his damage matches a 15^50 sword be my guest.
This has worked quite alot vs Milthuran. He either holds a sword and staff, a sword and rod or just a sword. If he doesn't attack you with a staff... he has never dropped it for me. The first run he attacked with a staff, low and behold i got his staff.

While Forest farming i could see 1 of the Spirit Shephards holding a Storm Artifact... it dropped. I just doubt this applies as much to warriors or Chaos Axes and Shadow Blades would be the most common drops in FoW (considering they have crappy Shadow Staffs to contend with, thats saying somet).

Kit Engel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Lords of the Sacred Chao

E/Me

I'm not sure if it applies universally, but sometimes in Perdition Rock, you see a phantom with a chakram or something like that floating around it, or a dryder with a wand floating (I assume it's because they don't actually have arms to hold it with, but the item is still animated). As far as I can tell, they always drop that item if you see that.

Haven't seen any like that recently though. Kinda weird. It might apply to the bosses.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

I laugh every time I see a jade scarab attack me with a focus equipped. =)

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

sometimes they drop what they have-----other times, well, I am wondering how the ice imps have fire wands and how the warriors I kill have caster weapons.....but who knows? You never know what will drop (like the armor from the sand giants---major ILLUSION magic?)

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

It always seem to be that way during SF Farming. If Brohn was carrying his Staff or Holy Rod, it would always drop.

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

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Sometimes i see casters drop hammers or swords so i belive it is totallly random