Robots In Underworld 2 Man?

YoNkErS 2k5

YoNkErS 2k5

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

New York, USA

Ominous Empire (Oe)

i ss and 55 for a 2 man uw run. but it seems all the 55s share similar characteristics:

they dont talk
they dont have a guild
they run the old monk solo [soj and zealots, not spellbreaker and signet]
they always pay to get in

are these true bots? has ne one else had these things? they arent korean, i know, but if these are bots they gonna mess up the whole game. anybody any comments?

Riken Chrono

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

around the corner and up the block

Hero

then jsut dont go with them. problem solved

Scavenger Rage

Scavenger Rage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Brazil

dTe - Do The Evolution

N/Mo

yeah...monks are anoying!

Whats EVEN MORE strange is that when i go as monk instead of my usual necro, i see that the necros are NOT like monks, they talk, they share experiences, they ask for 50-50 ectos and all...

But its just i try as a necro to get a random monk on TOA that things go different, monks are realy anti - social i guess, maybe they are mad because they gotta farm ectos and their fow armor sucks so much ^^

Later.

Shadow-Hunter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Denmark

[HH] [Hax]

Mo/

I dont belive its bots.. i Belive that its the Asian farmers.. Becouse: Some of them talk a little.. (Stuff like OK and some Draw on Minimap) .. While i dont think a Bot can be programmed to Hide behind benton and stuff to avoide being rended? Also alot of this monks is just trying to Scam off the necro and leave off to farm smiters by themself, witch is why most of em have SoJ i think..

~Shadow

mitch herbort

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

ohio

... idk

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scavenger Rage
yeah...monks are anoying!

Whats EVEN MORE strange is that when i go as monk instead of my usual necro, i see that the necros are NOT like monks, they talk, they share experiences, they ask for 50-50 ectos and all...

But its just i try as a necro to get a random monk on TOA that things go different, monks are realy anti - social i guess, maybe they are mad because they gotta farm ectos and their fow armor sucks so much ^^

Later.
im a 55 monk and it seems to me everywhere i go i run into robots wether its La, Toa ,UW ,Ascalon, Shingjea, Marketplace and definitly Droks, idk its wierd though they invite me in and dont say anything they get a full party and then we leave and they never speak a darn word...

Scavenger Rage

Scavenger Rage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Brazil

dTe - Do The Evolution

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow-Hunter
I dont belive its bots.. i Belive that its the Asian farmers.. Becouse: Some of them talk a little.. (Stuff like OK and some Draw on Minimap) .. While i dont think a Bot can be programmed to Hide behind benton and stuff to avoide being rended? Also alot of this monks is just trying to Scam off the necro and leave off to farm smiters by themself, witch is why most of em have SoJ i think..

~Shadow
Happened to me once...thats why now i bring distortion, no more scamms, i would simply folow them and avoid getting killed ^^

But i actualy dont see the central point in doin this...is it because of the 500g they save on the fee?!!? Because of the first few dying knights?!?! I mean, i can solo em ridiculously whith a mo/me....even w/out sb!

Anyway, monks in general have grown arrogant in this game, mainly because noone likes to play as one and every party needs em...

THERE ARE a few that are realy trustword and enjoyable as a party member, talking and making the game fun and all (i personaly dont think the game itself is fun anough w/ out the "human" component, i like to make jokes and stuff like that in the midle of the mish ^^)... and thats the reason why i keep a close track of trustfull 55 monks on my Flist, and now that i got about 3 of em i dont have to relly on "bots like" 55s to do my runs anymore

STILL, scams on spider runs are common, so i encourage u guys charge for it before you take the last quest or AT LEAST bring a Conjure Phantasm or sumthing like it, so you can kill the spider if the client attempts to charm it before u get paid (as i said....i LOVE off-topic chatp ;p).

Latter.

Across The Battle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Jersey

W/

That happened to my friend necro when he was farming for his FoW he got a guy that ran off to the smites, He carefully followed and after that guy got a large group of smites, he casted a hex on the smites and BOOM no more 55 monk :-p

Caethas Turan

Caethas Turan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Auckland, New Zealand

Reapers of Oblivion [Ruin]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scavenger Rage
Anyway, monks in general have grown arrogant in this game, mainly because noone likes to play as one and every party needs em...
I love my monk!!! I'd rather monk anyday then do anything else. I 55 monk all the time, and yet to have met a bot. So I think it's the attitude of other players. IMHO

I unfortunately went one day on my necro into ToA, thought I was lucky as heck to get a 55 monk to help me when they added another Monk, and I was like umm hmm. confused. Then all of a sudden we were in UW and I'm like, I wasn't ready, started talking to them, and they didn't say a word to me, then one dies and they yell at me to res him, and I just had to shrug, I was still sorting out my skillbar and forgot that .. res ... -hehe-

I got a kick out of that and left them both down there. Now I won't go as a ss with some random person, always a friend of guildie will get me as an ss. As a monk. Definitely only people I know. I have bad days down there, and need someone who will laugh at me not at me. lol

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

Whats a 55 monk? A monk that's 55 years old?

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

every time i have ever been a 55 the necro i have gone with iv always added to freinds and we have chats and stil do runs together maybe im just a specail monk

leeky

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiery
Whats a 55 monk? A monk that's 55 years old?
Obviously a monk with 55 armor. DUH

Riken Chrono

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

around the corner and up the block

Hero

no monk thats level 55 DUH. GG

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

I have a sixth sense about Asian gold farmers. I can sniff them out from miles by looking at:

Their name,
Their armour,
The spacing in their text,
The overuse of the word 'ok',
Their lack of guild or guild tag "[love]' (not to say that all [love] tags are farmers)

I recommend having a short rendez-vous with them and if they can't string a sentence together, the chances are they are not playing for the fun of it.

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riken Chrono
no monk thats level 55 DUH. GG
No such thing, monks range from level 1-54, then skip 55 and head right on to 60. What game are you playing? GUILD WARS? LOLOLOLOLOL

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

I think Fiery knows what a 55hp monk is on account of the fact he's a Grotto Attendent. You might be laughing at him, but he's laughing twice as hard at you all getting your knickers in a twist about it.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

I've never been with a 55 monk that talks. And when I monk, the necro's dont shutup. I find it odd...

I teamed with a 55 monk once, and I could of sworn they were a bot. Whenever I logged onto my necro, she'd say uw ok? over and over and over.

Sphinx2k

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by YoNkErS 2k5

they dont talk
they dont have a guild
they run the old monk solo [soj and zealots, not spellbreaker and signet]
they always pay to get in
i 55 somtimes when im board and I don't talk to the necro most of the time, i don't have a guild, i usally always pay for the trip. Only thing i don't meet on your list is running the old solo build but i also don't run with signet, whew 3/4 guess im not a bot hehe.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
she'd say uw ok? over and over and over.
That "ok" thing is a classic bot/farmer sign. Like i said, just chat with them and as if they want Blod Ritual or something. If you don't get a reply or they reply "ok", leave the party and move on.

Killaya

Killaya

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ohio

Fabric of Existence [ohGr]

N/Mo

I noticed this too whenever I went 2 manning on my necro. When I go on my 55, I make sure to communicate with the necro, ask them for a 50/50 on ectos, and offer to pay my 500g for the entrance cost. I prefer going to UW as a SS, but I often get non-english speaking monks who run off, aggro a bunch of shite, train them on me, I die, and they go farm smites. Jolly good!

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Dont see why they would run bots with a random person... itd be a much simpler affair to have 2 bots farm (or alternateively solo it).

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by YoNkErS 2k5
...
they run the old monk solo [soj and zealots, not spellbreaker and signet]
they always pay to get in
...
I don't get it...

You can't get any ectos in UW without sb, if they always pay to get in, they're really losing money and not gaining

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Met a few who speak very very poor english and dont speak much. One I eventually got to speak and I think he was either very young/ didnt know much english. Maybe they are just people who cant speak english well hence why they only use basic english.

To bot uw would be impossible due to the random nightmare spawn locations etc. I remember back in the days of the apple farmers (red apple, yellow apple, golden apple) and how they used to daily spam in la. They also had apple named uw farmers as I remember some person saying how a farmer named something apple stole his ecto lol.

Ive met a few who pay to go in aggro everything then die lol. Pretty weird tbh.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
I don't get it...

You can't get any ectos in UW without sb, if they always pay to get in, they're really losing money and not gaining
I used to solo it but it takes forever. I found pulling mods with longbows doesnt trigger nightmares. You use balth spirit (the aoe one), symbol of wrath, soj and normal 55 monk skills. Like I said it takes forever and is a pain. Two man is faster and much easier imo.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killaya
I often get non-english speaking monks who run off, aggro a bunch of shite, train them on me, I die, and they go farm smites. Jolly good!
They do that so they only have to pay 500g to get in. The same thing with spider farmers in FoW, they go with chest run groups to save money.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

There are Asian N/Me farmers out there too. I haven't seen or heard of any in UW but they're selling all sorts of golds and selling/buying ectos.

Caethas Turan

Caethas Turan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Auckland, New Zealand

Reapers of Oblivion [Ruin]

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
I don't get it...

You can't get any ectos in UW without sb, if they always pay to get in, they're really losing money and not gaining
Umm you can ...

I in my noob state a few months back had a 55 monk without sb. With a good ss who killed all the nightmares for me, and only ever had my enchants stripped a few times

Soloing, done it without sb as well and it takes forever.

But ...

I've gotten ecto without SB.

Riken Chrono

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

around the corner and up the block

Hero

pointless thread still. just another rant about botters or such. if you dont like asian botters, simply try to start a convo with them and if they dont talk then leave! no point in starting more threads about it

TheMadKingGeorge

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

Mo/W

i 55 i talk i also ss and i talk

im talking to my ss necro when im luring 6 ataxes and killing 4 nightgmares

Captain Roberts

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Celestial Guard

W/

george has a point, 55 monking is much more difficult than ss necroing...you cant exactly talk while hittin all your skills with good timing

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Uh, Captain Roberts, TheMadKingGeorge in his scenario is the 55 monk because he mentions talking to his SS necro while working.

Why do I bring that up? You say that monking is more difficult than using the SS because you don't have the freedom to talk. The example shows otherwise.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

Me and my girlfriend have the guild tag [Love] never knew asian gold farmers used the same thing.

I don't know, some people could be bots. I went in with a monk who was american, or knew how to speak english anyways. His exact words were "what?! how did I die I was casting protective spirit at exactly x seconds(I think 3 or something)". I wasn't thinking at the time and I should of screen shotted it.

If you need to make a script to press protective spirit and healing breeze, you shouldn't be in the underworld.

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
To bot uw would be impossible due to the random nightmare spawn locations etc.
It might be adventageous to learn something about coding before you speak about it.

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

i am a 55 monk in UW

when i go in, i do talk alittle only if necro talks to me amd ONLY if theres no aggro on me

if im gonna start typing and chatting no Spell breaker will save me from a dead Protective spirit. and imagine someone whos not that good in english?

so they are not bots... just monks that are concentrated on not dying

|pyro|

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

I usaly talk a lot in real life and in GW.
but I have meet a lot of these 55hp monks that invite and go to UW, then they dont say a word then draw on the mini map and you need to figure it out what does it means.

Did one run with this monk and I and he got an ecto, then we came out and in crapy enhlish he wantet my ecto for 3k. :S

Charqus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

Why do they have to be korean?!?
It is abit strange but do they kind of co-operate with you or just do as they pls on there own?

s t o m p y

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

FoW

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I'll admit that I talk when I am aggroing SOmthing just to show off....Kinda sad really..

I also use a Spirit Bond build so If I do get striped I have enough time to put sprit Bond back on and prot sprit...

If I am 55'ing I usually dont talk because If I do Die then most of the time i got to listen to the necro Curse at me and say its my fault.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
It might be adventageous to learn something about coding before you speak about it.
I fail to see how it is bottable. There are tons of different locations a nightmare could spawn so unless the program relies on the necro to wand them i cannot see how it can be done. The first aatxe mob alone has three different spawn locations. If there is a way it would be nice to explain it as im not an expert on it like you clearly seem to be. I made my statement based on the fact that the bots in elona cannot run up to the merchant to sell their stuff and have to use the wall trick so I cannot see how the same bot owners can make programs to wand random spawns. I knew a person who made a bot program and it seemed to be programmed through key strokes i.e. move forward so much then change direction then use this skill etc. Maybe there is some uber program/method of doing it but it would be nice for you to state how it does it

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

ive farmed with the chinese/koren gold farmers before they are very good, made some ok cash with a few of them

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

Quote:
Why do I bring that up? You say that monking is more difficult than using the SS because you don't have the freedom to talk. The example shows otherwise.
Err actually it's the contrary: monking is more difficult than using the SS so you don't have the freedom to talk - and more stresfull I may add: as a 55 hp, if you don't hit the right skill at the right time, you die, that's it.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

I can't type and tank at the same time and I wouldn't expect anybody to be able to do so. Talk to them beforehand and at the intervals in between.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
I don't get it...

You can't get any ectos in UW without sb, if they always pay to get in, they're really losing money and not gaining
And your profession is Me/Mo... for shame...

I can talk while tanking between SoDs (I'm not a monk, my build is different ) but it has to be very short bursts... I wouldn't expect anyone to try, more important to stay alive.