Increase the level cap to 100, 1000, whatever...

All for it, because with a high level you have to work to earn something; opposed to instant gratification.

Sorry I stopped reading at the first paragraph when you said to raise the level cap.

And ya know what I say now that youve spelled it out for me?



No.


Not sadly. They paid for the game and they dont pay a monthly fee, so it doesnt matter. This game is revolved around PvP (I'm not saying this is a PvP game, its just as much PvE) and so a level cap isnt nessicary at all. Your a power gamer? Go power level and get r6. Not a PvPer? Go farm for a perfect Fellblade in the Troll cave .

Worst recurring suggestion in GW history. No.

The only thing raising the level cap would do is bring more headaches, more balancing, more grinding, more crap. The level is perfect where it is. The game is set up fine.

Definitely not signed.

Another thing about these threads is it's amusing how many people are too lazy to level so they flame and cry about someone wanting to talk about and suggest raising the cap. Grow up people.

It's also funny how many people continue posting this without thinking how needless it is. There are so many things to work for in this game already yet a few are intent on grinding levels. They don't seem to realize that raising the level cap would require rebalancing the ENTIRE GAME. Had they had a higher cap in the beginning, it would be a different story. However, this game is not set up for grinding, nor was it intended; neither is it needed or wanted.

here are a few reasons why people are pissed at it coming up AGAIN

first page of the garbage idea.

Cough...off topic..cough..hypocrite...what? Oh, btw you saked for some links to other people complaining about this topic. I have given you link, but you've ignored it.

Yes, Tarun, we know you're a grindmonkey. You don't let us forget it. Thank you.

there is only one reason to raise a level number without increasing the power of the character is bragging rights of my character is higher level than yours so i am superior.

this is caused by elitests who find themselves surrounded by inferiors who are looking just as level 20 good as they are.

which leads to a mental syndrome commonly refered to as........

*OMG I AM SURROUNDED BY EQUAL LOOKING PEOPLE WITH NO WAY TO SHOW HOW SUPERIOR I REALLY AM TO THEM ALL*

EXCEPT TITLES!!!!

QFT

But titles don't affect game play. I can't whoop you with a title.

That is the part I was referring to.

when i get incorrigable ale hound you just watch me whoop.......and loop....and spin..and maybe visit the bushes real fast

Ah, I see. Though I think I'd rather have an elitist throw a title at me than a can of whoop a$$ because of him grinding to level "awesome".

Titles don't affect me; raising the level cap would.

LOL!

Whoops, double post. :P

Coherent, civil arguments don't seem to get anywhere with this argument, so I might as well have a little fun with it. I fully expect this post to get deleted, but I'd certainly resent it somewhat. As pointless as this contribution is, it was at least fun to write. And so, without further ado, let me present to you: Flames! Flames! Flames! Towering infernos of hate reaching towards the heavens! Ready and set and go!

Author's Note: The views expressed in the following post are not, strictly speaking, cjlr's, and are definately not be shared by some readers. Cjlr appologises in advance for any resentment and murderous hatred the reader may feel. Reader discretion is advised.

This thread and all of its ilk, festering cesspools of misinformation and blind idiocy that they are, only serve to make it abundantly clear that there are two kinds of guild wars players. Those that understand the game, and those that don't. The ones that understand also realize that the level cap is indeed arbitrary, but that there are some damn good reasons for it being in place. The ones that don't just blindly go through the motions, their vapid skulls filled with a thoughtless haze and their fingers stolidy manipulating their keyboards despite the total lack of direction being provided by that big empty thing upstairs.

Just because you're a pathetic little shitcock who needs to see big numbers flashing onscreen in order to give a little meaning to your empty life doesn't mean that all of us do.

Raising the level cap means either one of two things: either it affects stats, or it doesn't. If it does, the whole existing game goes out the window. All the mechanics currently in place are voided and everything needs to be rebalanced. And yet, the fundamentals are unchanged. For example: what we have now is level 20 players fighting level 24-28 mobs. Guess what would happen if we had level 30 players? Level 34-38 mobs! And it would be so completely different! I can sure imagine how different and new and exciting and completely revolutionary and not the same as before that would be! Can't you?

The other option, of course, is to remove that cap on progression but make it meaningless in terms of gameplay. I fail to see the point to that, but apparently some of you do. I would really love to be enlightened as to the point of this change, really I would. If someone can explain to me how changing the name only would affect your playing experience in any sort of significant fashion I'd love to hear it. I mean what, do you also smash your head against brick walls just because they're there? And if you don't, could you? An old dead guy once said (vicariously, of course), "a rose by any other name would smell as sweet". Well, guess what? Level 20 by any other name would have play the same. And an idiot by any other name would remain as foolish.

Another thing to keep in mind is that any sort of leveling would naturally need to be based on experience. And in that case... What happens to the people who already have 10,000,000+ experience? Instant level 100+ as soon as the cap is removed. Yeah, that'd be fulfulling. People who've been level 20 for any significant amount of time would be instantly kicked up to the new limit. And it would just be more grind for new players before they reached an "acceptable" level to participate in end-game content. A perfect and flawless solution from only the brightest of pundits, I'm sure.

In conclusion, I hate you all.

PS: I was not completely serious in the above. I hope it shows.
PS Redux: I found about a million threads about this already. How did the OP manage not to see any of them?

You missed the fact that they were talking about raising lvl cap Without increasing the power of the character.

So, raising the lvl cap without it increasing the power of the character would in fact be the same thing as titles. Just another way to show off how much you play the game.

I hate to say it, but that's what a lot people like about games. So, what would raising the lvl cap do to the game? Imo it would just add another way for ppl to boast about themselves. Just as adding titles to a game does. :P

And that's very sad.

That boggles my mind even more! What a waste of time! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

True... a waste of time. Just as much as the fight for titles. Yet, people love them, and waste their gaming time chasing after them. Probably just as many people love titles as would love to fight for a higher lvl title. :O

seriously

since grinding levels is simply an indicator of time spent the following could be put in the game


emote of a clock which has a glowing green age over your character showing hours played

you can toggle it off or on to impress the people who will be impressed by time grinded

Go and play wow if you feel like killing rats.
Guild wars is a pvp game and nothing can change that fact.

That sounds like a much better solution. Would the OP agree?

doods now your making fun of people who like to show accomplishments in game. be careful... you might be called out as a Hypocrite for your love of titles, which is there as a way to show accomplishments.

Makes me wonder, why didn't they just make the level cap at 60. I'll explain what I mean by a ratio.

Every 1-20 = 3-60, So basically every 3 levels you'd get Health/Energy + Attribute Points and what not. With the 3-60 ratio, each level would still take just as long as a level from 1-20. But this is primarly for grinders who enjoy difficulty in their leveling.

So the OP wants your titles to be rolled up into your level number, but a higher level doesn't actually do anything.

First problem - counter intuitive. In every other RPG on earth, higher level means higher power. And for monsters, higher level would still mean higher power, making it more confusing.

Second problem - unskilled players can buy themselves preferential acceptance into PUGS by being hapless drunkards.

It's astonishing you couldn't find another thread on this subject, since this subject has seen more reincarnations then Bush goofs up in speeches.

No, it does not.
we agree here.
And exactly why do those towns need to be filled up with power gamers and not players that enjoy other things?
It's also the no.1 reason why people stay in GuildWars and not leave for other games.

so you would suggest that levelgaining takes place 4 times as fast, and the 'XXX is now level XX' messages fly around your ears in towns (and let it rain skillpoints which personally i have no problems with), or that GuildWars becomes a bigger grindfest?
Not starting to talk about leveldiscrimination. ("glf lvl 80+, joo lvl 60 scrubs go away").

You're friend informed you wrong, and definetely hasn't got his sources right.
ANet must have told over a hunderd times now that they would never raise the levelcap.

Clearly, those people never bothered to inform themselves on the ideas ANet had/ has for GuildWars, as the levelcap policy is as old as the game itself.

You assumed wrongly obviously, because you and your friends didn't bother to check the information out on the game. To now try to change the original game philosophy to match your wrongfully build-up expectations is simply ridiculous.

Ehr...okay? So you're 1337?
*hand a cookie*

wait, you are losing me here. you ask for more to display your leetness in the form of levelcap, but now talk about 'har to max out' titles?
Quite contradicting.

one word: game-balance.
Yeah. Titles. very complicated.
checkbox.... *click*. done.
Yup, that's way to complicated.

start a petition and get your arguments straight before trying cheap tricks like this.

It's against EULA to sell your account.

And you say you aren't a powergamer?
Well, maybe you can brag your e-pride with a Zodiac Sundering Sword of Fortitude, a Celestial Shield and FoW armor on all your characters?

it should not be raised. it will not be raised. game over.

power gamers want an advantage not just recognition?
So you're basicly saying that the complete game balance should be put aside for Power Gamers?

Wow. That's the most retarded thing I've heard / read the past month.

If you want to impress your friends give them your XP as Lvl, that should solve that problem.

GLF mission +1mil xp only
thats my new group requirement everyone else is a "noob"
and if you play or have ever played WOW don't even bother to apply

/ notsigned (same as every raise lvl cap thread)

where people can see your level, why not have a thing where people can see how much skill points earned, if this is really to show how powerful you are.

Just because some of the moderators are on a little hiatus for the time being, that doesn't mean we don't check back now and then. There is no reason to start this flame war.

And yes, it's been suggested hundreds of times.

You are so closed it's not even funny. (Maybe a little funny.)