is it just me or does the "outcast god" we keep hearing about for nightfall sound like Dhuum?
he was the old god of death, and grenth got rid of him, sounds to me like when that corrup ruler summons him, or his power, hes gonna be one pi**ed of god lookin for some awsome explosions and evil machinations.
info found at http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=646706, and on guildwiki
outcast god.
Devon Dawnwalker
Branskins
Where did you find this information?
Kha
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Originally Posted by Devon Dawnwalker
is it just me or does the "outcast god" we keep hearing about for nightfall sound like Dhuum?
he was the old god of death, and grenth got rid of him, sounds to me like when that corrup ruler summons him, or his power, hes gonna be one pi**ed of god lookin for some awsome explosions and evil machinations. |
Though as the lore says, Grenth destroyed Dhuum, but you never know.
"Before the time of Grenth, when death was ruled by a cruel and unjust god, there stood a tower and a throne on this very plain. But Grenth rose up and destroyed the one called Dhuum and shattered down his tower, leaving only these storms of chaos as a reminder of the power that once held dominion here. My vigil over these lands was broken for a time, and I can feel a resurgence of the old taint. Four horsemen approach, riders of Dhuum. Destroy them before they can reclaim this place and throw the underworld into chaos!"
Devon Dawnwalker
perhaps, if its not dhuum that comes back, its menzies, or the great destroyer that the great dwarf banished, i believe those two are still kickin around
no matter who it is, nightfall is gonna be on kick a** brawl
no matter who it is, nightfall is gonna be on kick a** brawl
Neriandal Freit
The Great Destroyer that the Great Dwarf banished?
The Great Dwarf soundsl ike a ritualist
And I feel it could be Dhuum.
The Great Dwarf soundsl ike a ritualist
And I feel it could be Dhuum.
samcobra
I would personally love to see the Great Dwarf. or the evil thingy whose name was in the book that we had to blow up and bury
Neriandal Freit
What book that we had to blow up and burry?
Devon Dawnwalker
the one in sorrows furnace that had the great destroyers true name in it
Neriandal Freit
Oh. I'm an elementalist, I'm not wanted there anymore. *tear*
nugzta
The outcast gods are trying to overthrow the Tyrian gods. Might as well give new professions based on these gods because more professions to be added but still have 5 gods.
Shadow Dragon
me thinks it might be Menzies.
GloryFox
It's gotta be Dhuum. Especialy after reading up on the underworld quests. Many of the creatures in Underworld are not really native to it.
GloryFox
OK ITS GOT TO BE DHUUM. I went to Guildwiki and re read the script for information on Dhuum to verify some things and found this. NOW its really beginning to make sense.
For those of you who remember the CHAOS that attacked ToPK and the Shing Jea monastery last year, this has got to make you wonder.
Also for my request campaign to add Jive to the list of languages available for GW here is the above quote in Jive.
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from Gwiki "Before the time of Grenth, when death was ruled by a cruel and unjust god, there stood a tower and a throne on this very plain. But Grenth rose up and destroyed the one called Dhuum and shattered down his tower, leaving only these storms of chaos as a reminder of the power that once held dominion here. My vigil over these lands was broken for a time, and I can feel a resurgence of the old taint. Four horsemen approach, riders of Dhuum. Destroy them before they can reclaim this place and throw the underworld into chaos!" |
Also for my request campaign to add Jive to the list of languages available for GW here is the above quote in Jive.
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Nevin
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OK ITS GOT TO BE DHUUM. I went to Guildwiki and re read the script for information on Dhuum to verify some things and found this. NOW its really beginning to make sense.
For those of you who remember the CHAOS that attacked ToPK and the Shing Jea monastery last year, this has got to make you wonder. Also for my request campaign to add Jive to the list of languages available for GW here is the above quote in Jive. |
GloryFox
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posted by Nevin That one guy near the door out of shing jea monistary... One of the horsemen? |
Tetris L
I'm sure it's Dhuum. He's the outcast god. He is the god of chaos. He is the one behind the attacks on the Tombs and on Shing Jea during the Dragon Festival. Furthermore he corrupted Shiro Tagachi. (The official Taiwanese GW website hints at that.)
The plot thickens. Somebody call Mulder & Scully!
The plot thickens. Somebody call Mulder & Scully!
=HT=Ingram
Dhuum was possessing the fortune teller. lol
ChuckNorrispwns
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Dhuum was possessing the fortune teller. lol
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Silver_Fang
Hehe, when playing Faction, i always think the fortune teller is the bad guy instead of shiro, she got a witch sound
Neriandal Freit
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I always though it was wierd that a home-less old woman would tell peoples fortunes for free......
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I'm sure the things we know now will be begging to reveal them selves in the following chapters, and the ties that bind these chapters together will be more appearant as the chapters come out.
Now dont start going about on Gwen either. It is my suspisicioun that around Chapter Five we will begin to hear whispers of a beautiful woman who commands power unseen. Plus, we've also got the Seer's race, these demons the Luxons have, tons of stuff that can be better explained in due time..
Naqser
I want to see the embodiments of the gods, and see them fight, perhaps in the last mission if you kill Dhuum (if it is him) there, then they could come and help
Neriandal Freit
Such thing wont occur for much later in the chapters (Basically when they end Guildwars and begin Guildwars 2)
Or, it wont happen unill much later in thechapters but will only be a one-time occurance. In anycase people would feel disapointed with the chapter that follows it, I wouldn't, but I know others would.
But, think of it this way - If Grenth the Necromancer tooken down Dhuum the God, what is it, was it, that made Grenth the Necromancer powerful enough to take down a god? Meere mortals can not kill/banish a god (of any level, demi deity or one of the big five) with out having assitance in some way, some how.
It's my belife that we will eventually get to aid the gods v. something else war that we can finally see ("Little do they know their playing a part already...") and openly participate in. Tho personally I hope such thing will be much later in chapters and that we can how ever get a taste of this (IE: "Neriandal Freit, I need you to aid me" said Dwayna) and thats it for a couple oef chapters while we "build the blocks".
Or, it wont happen unill much later in thechapters but will only be a one-time occurance. In anycase people would feel disapointed with the chapter that follows it, I wouldn't, but I know others would.
But, think of it this way - If Grenth the Necromancer tooken down Dhuum the God, what is it, was it, that made Grenth the Necromancer powerful enough to take down a god? Meere mortals can not kill/banish a god (of any level, demi deity or one of the big five) with out having assitance in some way, some how.
It's my belife that we will eventually get to aid the gods v. something else war that we can finally see ("Little do they know their playing a part already...") and openly participate in. Tho personally I hope such thing will be much later in chapters and that we can how ever get a taste of this (IE: "Neriandal Freit, I need you to aid me" said Dwayna) and thats it for a couple oef chapters while we "build the blocks".
Hella Good
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I want to see the embodiments of the gods, and see them fight
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Omega X
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But, think of it this way - If Grenth the Necromancer tooken down Dhuum the God, what is it, was it, that made Grenth the Necromancer powerful enough to take down a god? Meere mortals can not kill/banish a god (of any level, demi deity or one of the big five) with out having assitance in some way, some how.
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And if the situation is based on real life myths, then Grenth being the son of Dhuum would actually make sense.
Neriandal Freit
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There is no information that suggests that Grenth was a simple Necromancer. For all we know, Dhuum could have been his father.
And if the situation is based on real life myths, then Grenth being the son of Dhuum would actually make sense. |
Shadow
I hope it's Dhuum. He should get more of a mention than a few references in Underworld. Plus it's sexy when things tie together. If it's just some new outcast god, I'll be disapointed.
Devon Dawnwalker
if dhuum has been doing all these crazy things, stirrin stuff up in the underworld, the choas corupting places and people, bringing out grasps, and probably a thing or two i havent mentioned, would it not be possible for him to be the cause of the charr comin down south to ascalon? perhaps bringing the same threats we have seen to them, who being charr, couldnt handle them and fled?
DOCB22
outcast god may be Shiro Tagachi just a thought
Omega X
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outcast god may be Shiro Tagachi just a thought
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He was NEVER a god, however there is some rumors flying around that Dhuum corrupted him in some way.
At the END of the story in Factions, the Envoys sent his soul to a special place in the Underworld since he no longer had any power.
Naqser
wow, this is very deep, if dhuum had something to do with the events in Tyria, like making the Charr move, maybe helping the lich, maybe he even created the titans. Not as deep as Halo is, but it's deep enough to start speculating
matthius
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I think it was the Lich that made the Charr attack Ascalon, there were burning titan statues to the North.
Shyft the Pyro
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these demons the Luxons have...
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Thallandor
would be very cool if it was so story driven and cooler still if the Cutscences further that story....maybe some CGIs cuts even would be also nice.
Neriandal Freit
dont forget about those thignies that Shiro was. i took screenshtos of them an dhave them on my other computer.
they could play a part in the next game.
they could play a part in the next game.
GloryFox
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posted by matthius I think it was the Lich that made the Charr attack Ascalon, there were burning titan statues to the North. |
Omega X
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dont forget about those thignies that Shiro was. i took screenshtos of them an dhave them on my other computer.
they could play a part in the next game. |
Energizer Deth Buni
Its so obivious... Shiro will be release from where ever by Gwen. But Gwen is not really Gwen. Gwen in actually Glint. Gwen-Glint. Sounds similar. Shiro and Gwen-Glint will bring Dhuum-Dhumm back into existance by sacrificing themselves to UW. All of this will be revealed by the now unemployed Infusioner who has been jobless since Factions came out. The Infusioner,who still has not made it back to the Protoss homeworld of Aiur, will begin us in the Nightfall campaign.
BTW that advertisement said GW was a "roleplaying game"?
BTW that advertisement said GW was a "roleplaying game"?
Omega X
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Its so obivious... Shiro will be release from where ever by Gwen. But Gwen is not really Gwen. Gwen in actually Glint. Gwen-Glint. Sounds similar. Shiro and Gwen-Glint will bring Dhuum-Dhumm back into existance by sacrificing themselves to UW. All of this will be revealed by the now unemployed Infusioner who has been jobless since Factions came out. The Infusioner,who still has not made it back to the Protoss homeworld of Aiur, will begin us in the Nightfall campaign.
BTW that advertisement said GW was a "roleplaying game"? |
Roupe
Well, i kinda posted my speculation in another thread
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10011848
But here it is again. And a bit more
I think the Outcast God is Menzies. Dhuum is dead, Menzies seems to have been banished.
Menzies probably investigated the energies (Chaos storms) at Dhuums broken tower, in his pursuit of seeking something helpfull to defeat his Brother. He found something. Some of the remnant energies of Dhuum or something that allows him to masquerade as Dhuum. This something whatever it was has has made Menzies able to command & lead Dhuums remnant followers.
This significally strengthened the Menzies shadow army, and made it strong enough to go on offensive. At least Menzies think so.
Then Menzies just waited for something big & distracting / a disaster of some kind (*cough* Fall of Ascalon) to weaken the Gods. Perhaps Menzies orchestrated it, but its also likely that he just exploited the situation. Using that Disaster as a Distraction, Menzies launched his campaign erupting Chaos everywhere. Turning rather docile monsters all over the world into vicous & aggresive ones, perhaps using some help from a vengefull Envoy Shiro.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10011848
But here it is again. And a bit more
I think the Outcast God is Menzies. Dhuum is dead, Menzies seems to have been banished.
Menzies probably investigated the energies (Chaos storms) at Dhuums broken tower, in his pursuit of seeking something helpfull to defeat his Brother. He found something. Some of the remnant energies of Dhuum or something that allows him to masquerade as Dhuum. This something whatever it was has has made Menzies able to command & lead Dhuums remnant followers.
This significally strengthened the Menzies shadow army, and made it strong enough to go on offensive. At least Menzies think so.
Then Menzies just waited for something big & distracting / a disaster of some kind (*cough* Fall of Ascalon) to weaken the Gods. Perhaps Menzies orchestrated it, but its also likely that he just exploited the situation. Using that Disaster as a Distraction, Menzies launched his campaign erupting Chaos everywhere. Turning rather docile monsters all over the world into vicous & aggresive ones, perhaps using some help from a vengefull Envoy Shiro.
sabretalon
OK personal theory!
There will be a chapter for each of the gods although you don't know they are tied to a particular god as such! Then the final chapter is the making of the new gods i.e you truly ascend!
I think Nightfall will link more with the story of prophecies since it is that team working on it! Then "Dawnbreak" (I'll let you have that as next title idea anet! LOL) or whatever, ties the story of cantha up more with the others. Each chapter will have a thread through it all and the true story will become clearer.
I think it would be Dhuum in this one but I also think he is the puppet of someone else! Multiple stories, have multiple possabilities and plenty of room for surprises.
The other side to think on is the idea of balance, there will always be good v evil. There as always been chaos of some kind in GW so why would the god of chaos not be there, it does not fit in with the logic. I'm also thinking about the Paragon in this and them being "angel like" I did also think o fthe dervishes more like the grim reaper, providing the bodies for a powerfull necro master?
Hey you never know but they may even be a link to Diablo in this! The devil being an outcast and all that. LOL
I think all the end characters from the main chapters will reappear in a final battle!
I probably have a few more theories running round my head but I won't bore you all with those!
There will be a chapter for each of the gods although you don't know they are tied to a particular god as such! Then the final chapter is the making of the new gods i.e you truly ascend!
I think Nightfall will link more with the story of prophecies since it is that team working on it! Then "Dawnbreak" (I'll let you have that as next title idea anet! LOL) or whatever, ties the story of cantha up more with the others. Each chapter will have a thread through it all and the true story will become clearer.
I think it would be Dhuum in this one but I also think he is the puppet of someone else! Multiple stories, have multiple possabilities and plenty of room for surprises.
The other side to think on is the idea of balance, there will always be good v evil. There as always been chaos of some kind in GW so why would the god of chaos not be there, it does not fit in with the logic. I'm also thinking about the Paragon in this and them being "angel like" I did also think o fthe dervishes more like the grim reaper, providing the bodies for a powerfull necro master?
Hey you never know but they may even be a link to Diablo in this! The devil being an outcast and all that. LOL
I think all the end characters from the main chapters will reappear in a final battle!
I probably have a few more theories running round my head but I won't bore you all with those!