Ecto anyone ?

Shadow-Hunter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Denmark

[HH] [Hax]

Mo/

Dahnel, if i Delete my Elementalist and Make a Ritualist, then its your foult!

Oh, and great guide btw.. Watched the UW Video.. Seems pretty fast for a Solo build to kill smiters..

::Clears out his ele and Deletes it::

~Shadow

Saider maul

Saider maul

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Baltimore, Maryland

nice video. As i said before I have been going in as 2 man with a 600 monk and splitting up after the aatxes. This build flies through the uw.

nothing like a 20 sec smite kill. lol

1 question,... Why not take out the 3 patrols of cold fires that force you to wait. the rit is easily capable of killing them if you stay out of the mail storm. ( take the 3 patrols of 2-3 each never take the patrols of 4-5 )

May offer one piece of personal experience. Physical resistance is never needed I have been going with channeling for that slot. the energy benifit is much better then the 8dmg reduction to you.

not a bad run though for 17 minutes. 40% of that time is screwing with the aatxes and getting grasps to pull right.

GJ on guide.

Zerimar

Zerimar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Rt/Me

Excited and and happy that you keep bring us these wonderful Vengful builds. Keep up the excellent work. =D

Titus Greylor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Abort, Retry, Fail

W/Mo

Sorry to wake up a dead thread, but I'm trying to save up for FOW armour and the 55 and SS dual UW Farming realy sucked in my opinion. Reason for this being that you always rely on the other guy not to die, and unless you wait for a friend or guildie to come online and actualy want to UW farm, you farm with unknowns in a 50/50, who have a habbit of dissapearing the moment the second ecto drops for them (and even if they dont, ectos are only worth half their value in a duo run anyway because you have to split).

Took me about 10 attempts to get this thing right (mostly because I kept forgetting to deselect the Lost Soul so I kept casting ancestral visage on him instead of myself, therefore getting pwnd by the grasping darknessess), but I made 2 ectos in my first successful run and 1 in each following run, and have now gotten the run sorted.

I'm never gonna duo farm again...this works so much better.

THANK YOU!!!!! If I could name my fissure armour after you I would

Jeff Highwind

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

Shit, I may do this just to fund my 15k Kurzick armor. Amber is so hard to come by.

And I am suprised as hell that aNet hasn't seen your exploits yet.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Highwind
Shit, I may do this just to fund my 15k Kurzick armor. Amber is so hard to come by.

And I am suprised as hell that aNet hasn't seen your exploits yet. excuse me ?

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Highwind
And I am suprised as hell that aNet hasn't seen your exploits yet. What 'exploit' are you talking about?

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

I think he's referring to the fact as soon as something like this becomes "known", the Nerf Team start polishing their bats.

Silver_Fang

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Manchester UK

Rt/

A-Net dont want people to solo farm elite and this is a solo farm build, so, they might try to nerf some skill. But tbh, the skill works fine and they are not overpower and situational, they opnly work on mobs that deal physical attack.

Or, they might just add more spellcaster in the area.

XanderWhilkes

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Perhaps he meant this definition:

An act or deed, especially a brilliant or heroic one. See Synonyms at feat1.


tr.v. ex·ploit·ed, ex·ploit·ing, ex·ploits (k-sploit, ksploit)

1. To employ to the greatest possible advantage: exploit one's talents.

Cirian

Cirian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European Union

The Amazon Basin

Aye, "exploits" aka "daring adventures", and not "exploits" aka "cheating hacks" It's all in the context!

Jeff Highwind

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackhawk
I think he's referring to the fact as soon as something like this becomes "known", the Nerf Team start polishing their bats. Bingo, from what I heard about in the past at least.

Deacon Roswell

Deacon Roswell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

San Diego

Absence of Evidence [AoE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saider maul
1 question,... Why not take out the 3 patrols of cold fires that force you to wait. the rit is easily capable of killing them if you stay out of the mail storm. ( take the 3 patrols of 2-3 each never take the patrols of 4-5 )

May offer one piece of personal experience. Physical resistance is never needed I have been going with channeling for that slot. the energy benifit is much better then the 8dmg reduction to you. Well I've never waited longer than about 10-15 seconds for a coldfire to be out of my way and they really don't drop anything worth the time it takes to kill them, BUT, how do you stay out of maelstrom when you're movement is slowed by shard storm?

Channeling over Physical Resistance is a personal preference. I've never had a need for Channeling while solo'n the UW with this build. I prefer Physical Resistance because I like to group 3 groups of smites (about 14 of them) and the extra damage reduction is very helpful while taking on that many. It all depends on your style of play though. Without Physical Resistance, I would have to spam vengeful weapon and possibly a soothing memories, which I would now have energy for if I sub in Channeling.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon Roswell
BUT, how do you stay out of maelstrom when you're movement is slowed by shard storm? Press the "S" key.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Just one thing that kinda annoys me about this build.

If you don't get an Ecto, you lose money (or gain very, very little)

The 1k fee makes me skeptical to try the build. If you make mistakes, it could be costly.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Just one thing that kinda annoys me about this build.

If you don't get an Ecto, you lose money (or gain very, very little)

The 1k fee makes me skeptical to try the build. If you make mistakes, it could be costly. It's very costly tbh. It'll take a few tries to make it out of the labrynth. You could waste even 20k at the beginning, but if you get good at it you'll make lots of money. You need money to make money. Waste money to get used to it, then make money from the ecto's you'll get.

icedutah

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

In that video. Is that the end or can you go farm more? I can do it up to the same point but the Cold Fires kill me.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

I did'nt kill all of the Smites in the video so no that was'nt the end (but the video was starting to get long )

Deacon Roswell

Deacon Roswell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

San Diego

Absence of Evidence [AoE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
I did'nt kill all of the Smites in the video so no that was'nt the end (but the video was starting to get long )
Try using the Windows Media Player 9 series codec. The video would be MUCH clearer and shorter.

Quote: Originally Posted by ICEDUTAH I can do it up to the same point but the Cold Fires kill me. Wait for the patrol to pass then walk around. There's no need to fight the coldfires at all. They very rarely drop anything of value and you can kill all the smites without fighting a single cold.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
Press the "S" key. Thanks smartass but backing up is also affected by shard storm.
It works sometimes but when there are 3 of them, mutiple maelstroms makes it tough. I still stick to avoiding the colds since, as stated above, they don't drop much.

Shadow-Hunter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Denmark

[HH] [Hax]

Mo/

Pressing S out of Malestorm will work.. Watch what skills they use and make sure you aint casting when it hits.. And then Walk out of it when it lands.. If you got Shard storm on you you will just get 1-2 Malestorm hits, witch wont kill you anyway

Btw im beginning to use Channeling instead of Soothing memorys... This way i keep Vengeful weapon.. And Soothing memorys dident have much use anyway :P Channeling + Vengeful weapon spam ftw >_>

~Shadow

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
It's very costly tbh. It'll take a few tries to make it out of the labrynth. You could waste even 20k at the beginning, but if you get good at it you'll make lots of money. You need money to make money. Waste money to get used to it, then make money from the ecto's you'll get. Well, I could just go farm Wardens for materials or Minos for horns. Doesn't cost a fee there. But I see what you are saying.

Still, I plan to get Ecto for my future Paragon's FoW. So I guess it'll be inevitably worthwile.

Saider maul

Saider maul

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Baltimore, Maryland

the only thing i have issues with is occasionally the aatxes dont want to cooperate with the agro limitations. They will follow me to the safe zone.lol
I have had only 1 run without an ecto. The rest yeilded 2.
I still find it so much faster going with a guildie SB monk and he takes aatxes, i take grasps, and we split on smites and cold fires for quick clearing.

All in all i luv the build. Thanks for sharing it with us. By far the fastest solo farmer avalible today.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Well, I could just go farm Wardens for materials or Minos for horns. Doesn't cost a fee there. But I see what you are saying.

Still, I plan to get Ecto for my future Paragon's FoW. So I guess it'll be inevitably worthwile. In the long run, you'll probably get more money from this build for uw. The only thing that will screw you up is getting out of the labrynth, but once your out as long as you stay away from coldfires you'll make money, It's honestly impossible to die against the smites.

Deacon Roswell

Deacon Roswell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

San Diego

Absence of Evidence [AoE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Just one thing that kinda annoys me about this build.

If you don't get an Ecto, you lose money (or gain very, very little)

The 1k fee makes me skeptical to try the build. If you make mistakes, it could be costly. Just try it. You're a competent player and you'll see it's very easy. Sure you'll die a few times when you first attempt the grasps and running around the aatxe but once you've done it a few times, it's a piece of cake. Just watch Dahnel's video carefully. He shows everyone exactly how to clear the first room. After a few runs you'll be completing the full run in about 15 minutes. I've done about 30 solo runs now and I average at least 1 ecto per run over those 30 runs so I definitely think it's worth it. You get some good gold drops and chests too, so you never know what you can potentially end up with.

A little side note for everyone trying this build: Don't be afraid to tweak it to fit your needs and style of play. I see so many people get builds from the forums and fail with them, but never try to adapt the build to their style of play. Dahnel was generous enough to post a build that works very well. If it doesn't work for you, determine what's not working and substitute skills. A few have already posted Channeling for energy management. I don't think it's necessary but that's my style of play. Once you've used the build a few times and understand the basics, you'll know what skills are a "must have" and you'll also know if the remaining skills fit your style of play.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon Roswell
Just try it. You're a competent player and you'll see it's very easy. Sure you'll die a few times when you first attempt the grasps and running around the aatxe but once you've done it a few times, it's a piece of cake. Just watch Dahnel's video carefully. He shows everyone exactly how to clear the first room. After a few runs you'll be completing the full run in about 15 minutes. I've done about 30 solo runs now and I average at least 1 ecto per run over those 30 runs so I definitely think it's worth it. You get some good gold drops and chests too, so you never know what you can potentially end up with.

A little side note for everyone trying this build: Don't be afraid to tweak it to fit your needs and style of play. I see so many people get builds from the forums and fail with them, but never try to adapt the build to their style of play. Dahnel was generous enough to post a build that works very well. If it doesn't work for you, determine what's not working and substitute skills. A few have already posted Channeling for energy management. I don't think it's necessary but that's my style of play. Once you've used the build a few times and understand the basics, you'll know what skills are a "must have" and you'll also know if the remaining skills fit your style of play. well said

icedutah

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

I killed all the Smites in the first area. Now what? Are there more after this point where I died trying to run past the Coldfires? BTW...This is the furthest I've ever been in UW so I don't know what is ahead. Pic is attached of where I died and can't seem to get past.

Shadow-Hunter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Denmark

[HH] [Hax]

Mo/

heh, after you have killed all the smiters there aint really much to do other than killing the coldfires.. The place you was on your way is just some wierd place with no monsters or anything..

~Shadow

icedutah

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

ok, thanks