"New and Rare Equipment" (Scribe #11)

Acehigh

Acehigh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Steel Phoenix[StP]/Terror Of The Justice Salmon[FisH]

do u think the luring mobs to chest will apply to the wardens as well?

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

You can also easily farm chests in Unwaking waters explorable near Merki the reaver, 1 chest is there most the time but lately it's been a purple dropping spree for me XD
[6 purples in a row from that chest is no fun...]
didn't find a jade sword yet, but did find 15%>50 and a 15% stance jade hammers... just hoping for that sword now.

Guinevere Ac

Guinevere Ac

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Milano

Quote:
Originally Posted by Acehigh
do u think the luring mobs to chest will apply to the wardens as well?
never tried wardens if they are the ones dropping the hunt shield ... yes, luring them to a chest be4 opening will result in warden material = higher chances to drop that shield

reetkever

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/E

I found my golden Jade Sword today while chest running... but NOT from a chest, and NOT from Outcasts either. A Rot Wallow dropped it for me. (THe sword isn't very good, being req 10 and only having 1 mod (+15 dmg in stance))

Rok

Rok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Guild Wars

I got a jade sword yesterday finally after a bunch of runs in Rhea's Crater. From a chest.



and just an example of Anet's awesome random items



maybe one day i can make a Monk/Mesmer/Necro to use it

aunshi_tau

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

New skin for fire staff or not?

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Not new, sorry.

aunshi_tau

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

ok thanks

TheMadKingGeorge

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

Mo/W

if anyone wnats a good farming place for chests it has to be ********* theres 3 +/- before the shrine then past it theres another 3/+-

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

What?

EtherealByte

EtherealByte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

| | R E A P E R S | |

R/Rt

jade axe sure is a rare drop. but apparently people dont like the skin much and theres not much of a market for it. Also, i dont think anyone would want to buy a 20% while hexed req 10 jade axe :P


edit: theres only so many zones in kurz and luxon land with that many characters. im a work so i really cant consult a map (i think), but my frst guess... melandrus ...? everyone knows that though so there wudnt be any point in hiding it. btw... a melandru run takes 3-4 mins and u usually see 4 chests per run. Thats about 60-80 chests an hour, which someone in this thread mentioned was not possible. I do find luxon areas a bit harder to run with chests placed much further apart. Takes me about 1.5 times as much time as kurzick chest running does (40-50 chests an hour Max!) I have a question for G Ac or anyone else here. Does chest running the same area repeatedly worsen the drop rate? a lot of times my first two runs have been 50% droprates gold and 3rd 33% and 4th run being a full grape run. When i switch zones i get 50% again. Is that grape run in middle just my imagination or does the farm code really kick in 3-4 runs in.

The Warrior of Will

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Family Of Evil [TFOE]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros
I really wouldn't be surprised if the items update was saved for next week. It would be pretty foolish for anet to add double faction to the two areas its trying to get populated then turn around and go tell people to farm elsewhere. If they do release both of these things in this weeks update I think they'll be shooting themselves in the foot as Jade Quarry won't nearly be as populated as it could be.

There is still another event to look forward to after this weekend (25th-27th). Then after that it's PvE Nightfall style Sept 1-3!
I think what they're gonna try to do is make people decide between getting double faction points or get the new weapons. Remember, "You can't have your cake and eat it too."

Scutilla

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by brokenmonkey
I think there could be some awsome looking staffs.. icy dragon staff=D or wand i dotn care just give us some love
There's already a Dragon Staff... or do you mean they should make an Icy Staff Head so you can make it an Icy Dragon Staff?

Quote:
Originally Posted by EtherealByte
jade axe sure is a rare drop. but apparently people dont like the skin much and theres not much of a market for it. Also, i dont think anyone would want to buy a 20% while hexed req 10 jade axe :P
Really? I'm almost positive I've gotten white Jade Axes before...

brokenmonkey

brokenmonkey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

CA

[UC] Uber Crue

W/

[QUOTE=Scutilla]There's already a Dragon Staff... or do you mean they should make an Icy Staff Head so you can make it an Icy Dragon Staff?


Haha Not quite=D

Icy dragon staff ftw!!!

Ork Pride

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

i got a crystalline shield!!!!














hehe j/k

Nanood

Nanood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Supermans Crystal Palace

Legion Of The Dark Sun

I got a gold jade sword out of the first chest I opened

My lucky day.. Havent i'd it yet. Dont wanna spoil the moment.

sinican

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

SAW

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Warrior of Will
I think what they're gonna try to do is make people decide between getting double faction points or get the new weapons. Remember, "You can't have your cake and eat it too."
The new items will stay there has been no indication that is an event specific thing... the dbl factions however will end this weekend

so while most of you have been going googly over the new items which are here to stay, the smart people have been faction farming and will wait till the event is over to farm the new rares...

ALSO: the idea that the mobs surrounding chests affect what drops out of them is comletely coincidental.... I oni farm on a daily basis before and during this event there is ALWAYS at least 1 chest among the popup onis where i farm and I get all assortments of items... the mobs themselves though have thier own rare item drop... aka onis never drop jade daggers they always drop oni daggers the sometimes drop oni blades... the chest arround them drop anything specific to that area... jade items (yes even jade swords) as a mater of fact of the 200+ chests on my oni runs that i have hit NONE have been oni daggers (a common rare that oni's drop)

I also have gotten jade swords from chests miles away from any outcasts... the new items are location specific for chests and mob specific for drops...

Guinevere Ac

Guinevere Ac

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Milano

Quote:
Originally Posted by sinican
The new items will stay there has been no indication that is an event specific thing... the dbl factions however will end this weekend

so while most of you have been going googly over the new items which are here to stay, the smart people have been faction farming and will wait till the event is over to farm the new rares...

ALSO: the idea that the mobs surrounding chests affect what drops out of them is comletely coincidental.... I oni farm on a daily basis before and during this event there is ALWAYS at least 1 chest among the popup onis where i farm and I get all assortments of items... the mobs themselves though have thier own rare item drop... aka onis never drop jade daggers they always drop oni daggers the sometimes drop oni blades... the chest arround them drop anything specific to that area... jade items (yes even jade swords) as a mater of fact of the 200+ chests on my oni runs that i have hit NONE have been oni daggers (a common rare that oni's drop)

I also have gotten jade swords from chests miles away from any outcasts... the new items are location specific for chests and mob specific for drops...
i opened more then 8000 chests and developed this theory a lot more deeply than i posted here. there's truly no doubt that is correct. u just have understood it badly:

just a few points.

- in a given map, chests can drop the equipment related to the foes that spawn in the map.
Example: Arcipelagos - chests can drop oni equipment, naga equipment, wallow and trees equipment, etc. u open a chest there, u can't have dredge or warrens only drops, guess i't pretty obvious.
- luring foes near a chest result in higher chances of drop that foes related equipment from the chest u're about to open. doesnt mean every single chest opened this way will be an oni chest if u lure onis. simply oni equipment drop a lot more often then in lone chests, in which the global % of the area applies.

example really really clear is silent surf. the chances to drop plague items in the jade sea are nearly 0%. i personaly never found a single plague item from chests spawned in the jade sea... but in silent surf there's a nice hill with assassin construct and a nice group of afflicted... sometimes a chest spawns there. try it yourself, go there and see how many times u find plague items, only from that given chest, no other chest will ever drop plague items there. try it.
even better. lure that group of afflicted away, and kill them, then lure a group of leviathans or outcasts on that hill. tadaah, pretty magically that chest doesn't drop plague items anymore.

i tracked statistics about this chests behaviour, more then sure of what i say.
already writing a community work project i'll publish when i reach max tier for chestrunner title, u'll see how useful this is

dr1zz one

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Is the Colassal(sp) Pick a new weapon?

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

@dr1zz: No

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guinevere Ac
i tracked statistics about this chests behaviour, more then sure of what i say.
already writing a community work project i'll publish when i reach max tier for chestrunner title, u'll see how useful this is
I'll be really interested to see that!

TheMadKingGeorge

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

Mo/W

i thought it would be easy getting max chest and wisdom titles but i seen blacks post and ouch its gonna hit my pockets

chichory

chichory

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guinevere Ac
never tried wardens if they are the ones dropping the hunt shield ... yes, luring them to a chest be4 opening will result in warden material = higher chances to drop that shield
Hi, if you don't mind me asking, have the 8000 odd chests you have opened payed for themelves? As in, do you think you have profited from the drops vs price of keys?

Hexum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

MxG

N/Mo

Doubt it.

TheMadKingGeorge

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

Mo/W

same her i doubt it too :P

Guinevere Ac

Guinevere Ac

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Milano

Quote:
Originally Posted by chichory
Hi, if you don't mind me asking, have the 8000 odd chests you have opened payed for themelves? As in, do you think you have profited from the drops vs price of keys?
always answered this anywhere ppl asked or ingame. a lot, huge lot.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Short term chest running is not profitable unless you get super lucky. But if you keep at it, eventually you'll find that rare treasure you can sell for more than the cost of your keys. So long term, like Guin said, chest running can be quite profitable.

Vincaro

Vincaro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by beanerman_99
Wonder if they will be skins from the previous 'create a weapon' contest, maybe of runners-up those that didn't win?
That's what the last batch was, but that was only a few of them. These will probably be more. Please be MINE!

Finally read through the thread... sigh, no sign of mine... I entered a design for each type of weapon and I don't know which got me into the runner ups, but I think it was either my sword or bow...

sinican

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

SAW

D/

@Guinevere... like i said area specific... those items do drop from any of the chests in that map location whether or not they where lured to any chest or not... i spoke from a single reference of my current favorite casual farming place... (onis lvl 28 mobs drop some nice crap better than any of the mobs in other areas i have encounted other than the deep) i am a very observant player... and yet i still do not buy into your theory and for that i appologize, i believe that you are reading way to far into things... i have gotten those drops before and after slaying those mobs you are talking about in cest on the other side of that "map area" i have observed that the items ARE area specific.... just as in Breaker Hollow near onis have a tendancy to drop oni blades near the yettis they have the same chance to drop oni blades (yetti's are located on the western side of the map near aspenwood yet all the onis are on the east side of the map near breaker hollow) i have not however noticed oni blades drop from chests in other map areas that did not have onis in the map area somewhere... i still think you are misinterpretting.... i dont believe at all the mob near the chest increses any chance in what that chest is going to drop but rather what mobs are in the map area does affect what the chests tend to drop as far as rare items go... every area with lux chests always seems to have jade wands and crap like tht.. also this observation has been confirmed with gayla hatchery explorable... from leviathan pits there are outcast and them jelly things all over and even the chests near nagas drops rare jellyfish wands and jade swords even had an oni blde drop from chests near the outcasts in that area...


anyways... to answer the question of profit also... yea chest running can be profitble by extreme if you know what mods and items are sought after... 60% of the items you get may be non mxa items and look like they are merchant bait but hey there are some max mods on them salvage mods... even mods typically sell for at least 1k... soem of the nicer mods sell for up to 50k its easy to find defence mods insightfll mods etc in abundance in these areas and they all typically 2k mods... heck of a lot better than 200-300gp from vendors and a 2k mod buys 3 more keys...

i can go through over 100k in keys a day and fill the inventory of 2-3 characters with mods and items that typically can turn dbl profit... but its about then haveing to take the time to sell the items/mods...

SirErnieMacGloop

SirErnieMacGloop

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Area 52

Guinevere AC: you are right on, IMO, about increased chances of mob specific items dropping from chests that are close.
I believe there is always a chance that area specific item can also drop, but I have found that the "living" mob closest to the chest alters the drop table.
The proof is in the pudding, so to speak, I used this technique to get the first Jade Sword reported here at Guru.

I have opened almost 4000 chests myself and have seen this time and time again. Thanks for sharing this observation to those who are not hardcore chest runners.

Yes, long term chest running has made me lots of gold, however, i may open 100 chests and get nothing worth taking the time to sell.

BTW: Guinevere AC, isn't the title KOABD(1) not KOBD(1)? as I haven't reached 5 max titles I can't be positive on this.

evenfall

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Is this a new skin? Haven't seen it before.



edit: added the description

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by evenfall
Is this a new skin? Haven't seen it before.

That is a new skin weapon. Where did you get that from? Please pm me location!

MooseyFate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

The style of the weapon clearly says it's from the same place as the golden hammer (Ratsu Palace or whatever)

sinican

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

SAW

D/

quick question has anyone gotten any new skins as of today Monday???

im either haveing a really bad run or....

dunno... they should still be dropping...

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

These must be really few weapons they did or everyone already discovered them :/

ducktape

ducktape

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by evenfall
Is this a new skin? Haven't seen it before.

That's a nice axe!

Can you tell us what it's called? We assume it came from Raisu palace, but if you found it somewhere else please share

IllusiveMind

IllusiveMind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mehtani Keys

The Extraordinary Revolution [ReVo]

P/W

Yes post the name of that axe, please.

Klmpee

Klmpee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Florida USA :)

[Anti]

W/E

zomg new axe.
+nerdy laugh+ omg gotta tell us the name of that so i can get one for all my chars..
o i ccaaant wait im going crazy here!

...

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=41

Someone else has found that axe now too.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Another hand axe?! X.x come on Anet...better names~!

*looks at her Hand Axes* >.> Meh..mine's better.