EULA changed

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levortex
Frost Gate Guardian
#1
The GW Uela changed (atleast for the europeans), but i don't get it. Do i need to pay now, if im not buying new campaigns?? I'm not really good in english and i don't know what really changed in the ula, but can someone explain the changes a bit?? (in simple normal englisch)
Opeth11
Opeth11
Desert Nomad
#2
I don't know what the changes were, but I'm pretty sure that are no forced payments involved.
Dev121
Dev121
Forge Runner
#3
I got it up but i never read them just click accept =P
Gorebrex
Gorebrex
Jungle Guide
#4
I saw it at login, so maybe its changed for everyone. Saw something like what youre saying, I only speak english, and still am not sure. Will have to look again I guess.
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zhai
Academy Page
#5
NC Interactive reserves the right to alter the fees payable for new Chapters or introduce alternative fee structures for the Service. Any alteration to the purchase price will be posted on the Web Site at least 30 days prior to such alteration taking effect. If you do not agree to any such alteration, you should not purchase the new Chapter and/or you should terminate your Account prior to the date on which the alteration takes effect, otherwise the revised amount will automatically be debited to your Account.

fees? What about "pay once, play forever"?
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Kaguya
Desert Nomad
#6
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Originally Posted by zhai
NC Interactive reserves the right to alter the fees payable for new Chapters or introduce alternative fee structures for the Service. Any alteration to the purchase price will be posted on the Web Site at least 30 days prior to such alteration taking effect. If you do not agree to any such alteration, you should not purchase the new Chapter and/or you should terminate your Account prior to the date on which the alteration takes effect, otherwise the revised amount will automatically be debited to your Account.

fees? What about "pay once, play forever"?
That allows them to change the prices of character slots and chapters in the online store, and add/remove stuff online store would sell, for example. It doesn't mean they'll be including any pay to play-stuff. It has been said many times by ANet people that GW will not be PtP. Plus, that'd be like committing a suicide anyways, more or less.
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zhai
Academy Page
#7
I really wish Gaile to comment it.
Rain Knight
Rain Knight
Site Contributor
#8
pfft ~ like mista devaney up there said, just click accept =P

basicly its just the same with some minor adjustments......18+, exploiting the software, bots, product fees etc etc...
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Destro Maniak
Jungle Guide
#9
I am the one of the people clicked accept without reading. Are we going to gives fees to nightfall .Or are we going to give fees to prophercies and factions or nothing
Tyggen
Tyggen
Krytan Explorer
#10
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NC Interactive reserves the right to alter the fees payable for new Chapters or introduce alternative fee structures for the Service.
Accepting this is accepting that Anet may turn the game into pay-to-play. "The Service" they mention is either limited to new chapters (hopefully), but can also mean the existing game.

-edit-

Oh, and it's called an EULA, not an UELA.
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led-zep
Krytan Explorer
#11
if the eula is changed and you dont agree do you get a refund on your purchase since it is an altered contract (supposedly) from when you first agreed.
would laugh if thousands of people dont agree and demand money back.
ChrOnic_Seizures
ChrOnic_Seizures
Academy Page
#12
I don't think they are going to add fees, but i must say seeing this actually made me think and stop to read the "whole" agreement. Maybe they plan to start really inforcing ALL the rules?
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Ajantis
Wilds Pathfinder
#13
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Originally Posted by Destro Maniak
I am the one of the people clicked accept without reading. Are we going to gives fees to nightfall .Or are we going to give fees to prophercies and factions or nothing
How about you read it next time so you know what has changed?
ChaoticCoyote
ChaoticCoyote
Krytan Explorer
#14
As I said in another thread: You're paranoid.

The changed clause is related to price changes in chapters and other purchasable content. For example, if you bought Propechies for $50, and they start selling it now for only $30 (maybe in the online store?), the EULA says you can't ask for a refund of the difference.

That's it. Nothing else. No conspiracies.
Cherrie
Cherrie
Krytan Explorer
#15
How many threads on this update there are?
Anyway I'll cut down with my conclusions until Gail Gray will be so kind and clear matters up. What certain is that:
ANet advertised GW as "buy nd play for free" from the beggining
ANet officially anwsered (up to this date) that they designed and created the game so it wont become Pay to play
Law cannot work backwards so they cannot make owners of c1 and c2 pay additionally or they break the law

But still I cannot restrain one more comment... Reading some of Gail's anwser, like the one about merging accounts, I cant shake off that nasty feeling that ANet has become simply annother $ leech with no respect for players and with the "be happy with what youve got and fk off till next chapter" attitude. Sad.
SylverDragon
SylverDragon
Frost Gate Guardian
#16
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Originally Posted by zhai
NC Interactive reserves the right to alter the fees payable for new Chapters or introduce alternative fee structures for the Service. Any alteration to the purchase price will be posted on the Web Site at least 30 days prior to such alteration taking effect. If you do not agree to any such alteration, you should not purchase the new Chapter and/or you should terminate your Account prior to the date on which the alteration takes effect, otherwise the revised amount will automatically be debited to your Account.

fees? What about "pay once, play forever"?
This term has not just been introduced into the EULA, and worries keep coming up over this each time the EULA is updated.

Anet have said many times that there will be no ptp fee.

This is a PlayNC EULA, with minor adaptations for GW. If you look at http://eu.plaync.com/eu/help/useragreements/ you can see the same clause in the EULA's for other PlayNC games.

Also note the part that says 'otherwise the revised amount will be automatically debited to your Account'. This is there so that the fees for games that are already ptp can be altered. They can't just start charging a fee if there is no existing agreement to do so.

Some people have said that the update is to cover the introduction of the online store.
EternalTempest
EternalTempest
Furnace Stoker
#17
I can't find the post but Gaile did mention that GW is free to play when this topic was brought up and this has been EULA for a while now.

A lot of companies have this option, it gives them the legal right to change things latter but that doesn't mean they will implement such feature.

Anet knows that if this were to happen, they would easily lose 2/3 of there fanbase within 30 day notice.
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Loviatar
Underworld Spelunker
#18
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Originally Posted by zhai
I really wish Gaile to comment it.
GAILE HAS ALREADY EXPLAINED IT VERY CLEARLY.

*ASIA*

*INTERNET CAFE*

*ALTERNATE FEE STRUCTURE FOR DIFFERENT COUNTRIES*

*ONE EULA TO COVER ONE WORLDWIDE GAME*

*THIS PART MAY APPLY TO KOREA BUT NOT BE AVAILABLE/APPLY IN USA/EU*
Zakarr
Zakarr
Jungle Guide
#19
Hopefully there is nothing else. People who bought Prophencies and/or Factions for "lifetime" without any forced fees, wouldn't be happy if they have to close their account after couple years because they refuse to pay extra fees.
Eragon Dragonslayer
Eragon Dragonslayer
Jungle Guide
#20
what they are saying is that if u are 18 or over u can subscribe to their service which automatically gives u every new chapter everytime its released and they will take 50$ from ur bank everytime they do that...