Nerf Stick Beating More Than Skills?

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Kaida the Heartless
Kaida the Heartless
Desert Nomad
#1
I don't know about many of you out there, but this "nerfing" trend that Anet has set is getting quite annoying. In fact, I have completely stopped pvp play altogether as a result (touch rangers being the final "snapping point"). PvE only has a certain replay value! Every time a decent skill or build comes to play, Anet nerfs it away. Granted, I understand that many skills do need some watering down, but in many of those instances, a perfectly balanced skill (EoE?) is tagged for no apparent reason, or out of laziness. Other times, Anet has completely missed (and continues to miss) those skills in which need to be nerfed. I just want to know if anyone else here is getting upset with the constant "swinging of the bat" like I am.

Now I know this sounds like a rant, and it is somewhat. But I really just want to know if anyone is as aggitated as I am. /agree or /disagree pls!
Kruzing Low
Kruzing Low
Frost Gate Guardian
#2
what skills do you think need to be "nerfed"?
ubermancer
ubermancer
Jungle Guide
#3
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Originally Posted by Kruzing Low
what skills do you think need to be "nerfed"?
Gust. Way too powerful.
prism2525
prism2525
Forge Runner
#4
Gust and second wind too powerful?? Aren't eles underpowered enough? May I remind you you're talking of ELITE skills. You wanna make those crap as well? Compare the elites of the ele and the elites of other classes. Most of the ele skills pale in comparison.
Avarre
Avarre
Bubblegum Patrol
#5
Real games have changes. It's better for things to be nerfed than buffed to balance, else we end up with 50k damage Javazons.

Plus, EoE change didn't really hurt it that much in PvP..
-Loki-
-Loki-
Forge Runner
#6
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Originally Posted by Kaida the Heartless
but in many of those instances, a perfectly balanced skill (EoE?) is tagged for no apparent reason, or out of laziness.
Reason for EoE's change - griefing in AB and competitive missions. Just because you didn't do it or weren't affected by it when you played, doesn't mean it never happened. Skills are never 'nerfed' for no reason. Sure, the reason may not be clear to you, but Izzy has his reasons for changing a skill.
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Sol Deathgard
Lion's Arch Merchant
#7
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Originally Posted by Kaida the Heartless
I don't know about many of you out there, but this "nerfing" trend that Anet has set is getting quite annoying. In fact, I have completely stopped pvp play altogether as a result (touch rangers being the final "snapping point"). PvE only has a certain replay value! Every time a decent skill or build comes to play, Anet nerfs it away. Granted, I understand that many skills do need some watering down, but in many of those instances, a perfectly balanced skill (EoE?) is tagged for no apparent reason, or out of laziness. Other times, Anet has completely missed (and continues to miss) those skills in which need to be nerfed. I just want to know if anyone else here is getting upset with the constant "swinging of the bat" like I am.

Now I know this sounds like a rant, and it is somewhat. But I really just want to know if anyone is as aggitated as I am. /agree or /disagree pls!
1st off, half the skills that don't need to be nerfed are nerfed because whiny little morons like you threaten to hold your breath until you turn blue if they don't. as far as nerfing a perfectly good skill like EoE, let's see, you either Iway, or EoE bomb all the time, cause those are the only pvp build that use EoE, as far as in pve, I'm glad they nerfed Edge cause again the only time it's really used is in Urgoz which to me took away the challange & fun of killing the boss.

As far as you saying touch rangers where the last straw, I've stated Many times that they are nothing, I can counter them with any of my chars, the only people that really are crying for touch rangers to be nerf are people like you that don't know how to read their skills or refuse to change their skills cause they just want their build to pwn all. Get over yourself, and learn to adapt, if you can't, then play something else you baby.
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fallot
I'm the king
#8
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Originally Posted by Kaida the Heartless
Granted, I understand that many skills do need some watering down, but in many of those instances, a perfectly balanced skill (EoE?) is tagged for no apparent reason, or out of laziness.
I'm sorry but turning anything over 4v4 into a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing bomb is not my idea of balanced. Its a mechanic that should not exist. EoE is a totally inexplicable skill, the change was a welcome one for a lot of people. Nerfs happen, its all for the good of the game.
Numa Pompilius
Numa Pompilius
Grotto Attendant
#9
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Originally Posted by Kaida the Heartless
I don't know about many of you out there, but this "nerfing" trend that Anet has set is getting quite annoying. In fact, I have completely stopped pvp play altogether as a result (touch rangers being the final "snapping point").
So, you stopped playing because ANet _DIDN'T_ nerf touch rangers and because you're upset about perceived nerfing of everything?

Consistency ftw?

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I just want to know if anyone else here is getting upset with the constant "swinging of the bat" like I am.
I'm not. Mainly because unlike most I actually know what a 'nerf' is: that a skill or item is made weaker. There have not been many nerfs in GW (although EoE was really nerfed), but there have been changes, and every single little change is considered a nerf by people who don't know what a 'nerf' is.
More hydras outside Augury? Nerf.
The Queen outside Augury? Nerf.
Updated monster AI making farming more difficult? Nerf.
Removal of the "ascend several times and get reward every time" bug? Nerf.
Removal of the "transfer items to pre-sear" bug? Nerf.
Nerf, nerf, nerf. Although none of them actually is.

So, nerfs aren't all that common in GW. On the whole, nerfs and buffs are probably about equal wrt skills and equipment.

Changes, however, are everywhere, and people apparently have a real hard time adjusting to change.

/Not Signed
Andy_M
Andy_M
Wilds Pathfinder
#10
Especially when those changes are nerfs..
Minus30
Minus30
Academy Page
#11
The only update i didn't like so far was the doppleganger being easier >.<
Ppl complain to much and are so conservative... every change is bad for them...
Just look at it as a way to improve your skills to adapt and make your own build instead of copying it from ppl or fansites...
Alleji
Alleji
Forge Runner
#12
Zomg anet nerf whiners plz or I'm gonna quit this game!
Mr_T_bot
Mr_T_bot
Banned
#13
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Originally Posted by Kruzing Low
what skills do you think need to be "nerfed"?
Expertise.
Yes, I know it's an attribute, shut up.

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The Queen outside Augury? Nerf.
That was actually intended as a semi-nerf, but Arena Net has no foresight so it just backfired on them.
Dev121
Dev121
Forge Runner
#14
Frenzy needs nerfing , its WAY POWERFUL!!!!
LiamR
LiamR
Lion's Arch Merchant
#15
Personally the griefing in AB was pretty good. I played about 10 matches when it was going on, never encountered it.. But it made the line change, instead of the usual nuetral/shallow luxon teritory.
-Loki-
-Loki-
Forge Runner
#16
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Originally Posted by LiamR
Personally the griefing in AB was pretty good. I played about 10 matches when it was going on, never encountered it.. But it made the line change, instead of the usual nuetral/shallow luxon teritory.
The line had very little to do with EoE griefing, it had everything to do with the team changing the momentum bonus, live, to see what the best value to set it at was.
eggs0wn
eggs0wn
Krytan Explorer
#17
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Originally Posted by Sol Deathgard
1st off, half the skills that don't need to be nerfed are nerfed because whiny little morons like you threaten to hold your breath until you turn blue if they don't. as far as nerfing a perfectly good skill like EoE, let's see, you either Iway, or EoE bomb all the time, cause those are the only pvp build that use EoE, as far as in pve, I'm glad they nerfed Edge cause again the only time it's really used is in Urgoz which to me took away the challange & fun of killing the boss.

As far as you saying touch rangers where the last straw, I've stated Many times that they are nothing, I can counter them with any of my chars, the only people that really are crying for touch rangers to be nerf are people like you that don't know how to read their skills or refuse to change their skills cause they just want their build to pwn all. Get over yourself, and learn to adapt, if you can't, then play something else you baby.
I agree with him in a less harsh way.
jimmy_logic
jimmy_logic
Wilds Pathfinder
#18
Nerfs keep the game interesting... I love nerfs because it makes me think of new things. Guild Wars will be sitting on my computer if the same sh*t were to be played over and over again.
Kruzing Low
Kruzing Low
Frost Gate Guardian
#19
so this dude quit because people kept touching him?
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curtman
Frost Gate Guardian
#20
Put Touch skills in soul, so the Luxons cannot send their 4-8 man R/N squads to ABs. Doing so would allow Necros to touch, but prefevents the touch and evasion thing which make the R/N cheap and annoying.