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lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

21 Aug 2006 at 15:03 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alias_X

Just to clarify, this would never be implemented in GW. It doesn't fit. You would have to build the game around a PvP style like this. So there is no way if we used this PvP system, we would have PvP specific characters. It would be more like PvP+PvE characters, in one giant world. The current instances would not work.

If you know it doesnt fit the game...why are you suggesting it?

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

21 Aug 2006 at 15:36 - 42

I'm not suggesting it. If I was it would be in Sardelac Sanitarium. I am stating why I dislike PvP, and trying to get some insight on how to get into it. I am hoping that with people seeing why I dislike PvP they can give me suggestions on how to make it better, or as some have already done, tell me that the PvP side of this game isn't quite right for me.

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

First Degree

Mo/

21 Aug 2006 at 16:00 - 43

Worst idea ever, this one should go to the "Worst game update" thread.

I hope you realized how much your idea sucks, else nevermind then.

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

21 Aug 2006 at 17:30 - 44

You didn't read any posts, did you?

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

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Mo/

21 Aug 2006 at 17:42 - 45

Private message of hate:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alias_X

I hope you realize that what I posted wasn't a suggestion, nor was it an idea. If that was the case, you would be reading it in Sardelac now wouldn't you?

Your name will be on my websites wall of shame.

I look forward to that, would you mind sending me the link afterwards?

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and yes, I did read every post.

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

21 Aug 2006 at 17:49 - 46

I would rather carry on such arguements via PM than use the thread.

It is about time this thread got locked.

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

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Mo/

21 Aug 2006 at 17:57 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alias_X

Quote:

Originally Posted by The truth itself

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alias_X

I hope you realize that what I posted wasn't a suggestion, nor was it an idea. If that was the case, you would be reading it in Sardelac now wouldn't you?

Your name will be on my websites wall of shame.

I look forward to that, would you mind sending me the link afterwards?

You. took. me. seriously.
wow.

I wouldn't waste my time doing that.

hush hush, no need to cry.

I see no reason to underestimate anyone, including you.

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You're absolutely right about the future of this thread, and it should be closed.

I wouldn't call this an "arguement", I would call it trolling.

OP:

No, if we wanted to play the standard MMORPG, where you lose items when you die, I would play Runescape. This "idea" ruins the current and unique PvP system, where you can actually tryout stuff, without risking too much or putting too much effort into it.

No thanks, GW PvP isn't something for you.

MooseyFate

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

21 Aug 2006 at 18:00 - 48

I'm with you Alias. All except the WoW PvP thing, I think their PvE is their strong point, and PvP very weak. But HA and GvG always has PUGs looking for the same one of half a dozen builds. It's become too much of a science. I see the problem with guild groups and PUGs actually.

I'm getting more and more attracted to TA because there's more willingness to experament. Just because GvG has more esteem amongst "leet" players (if the word leet or 1337 isn't godawfully annoying enough), doesn't mean it's better. Plus in 4v4 every single player on both sides is more important. And there's less waiting time.

And don't overlook skirmishes, those can be fun too, and your small group of people playing can come up with little rules for a skirmish for a twist.

But yesterday, I "joined" a new guild that just formed. The guild addresses these issue and the gvg rank issue*. It's basically people from serious guilds, that just want to have fun. Very few actual members, but when we want to play, we pay the low cost to guest people in (that's why "joined" is in quotes, I didn't leave my old guild). People are free to bring the builds they want, with 100% perfect PvP characters, or 90% perfect PvE characters. Surly we will loose a lot, but we should win enough, and have much more fun when doing so.

*The rank issue is guilds wanting to be top 100 so badly that they sacrifice playing gvg. And you can't say unrated is good enough, because it takes much more to orgainize two teams to play than one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alias_X

This is my opinion, and I realize you might not agree.

I don't like the PvP side of Guild Wars because it seems too organized. You set up a build thats popular, get into a group that needs your build, and enter the game. That is the first thing I don't like. To me, PvP should have some danger, some consequences. You lose match or die? You can get into another group and do it all over. Now I hate World of Warcraft, but their style of PvP seems more fun to me. (Style does not include all the super armor and weapons that take months to farm. I am talking about the way it is set up.) There is danger, you see other people and either you are going to kill them, or they are going to kill you. Then what should happen? You lose gold or some random item in your inventory. To me that would make PvP more exciting. Sure, it isn't an FPS, but these organized matches just feel too boring.

Next, the feel of PvP. We are warriors, mesmers, with swords, wands, canes, you name it. These are all fantisful things. What happens in PvP? You stand in territories and a ring of light changes color to your side. It just doesn't fit in.

I haven't played GW PvP for long because I never took a liking to it, but as PvE gets more and more boring for me, I see myself trying the PvP side more often. I don't want PvP to be geared towards ZoMG R()x0r ADHD !!!1111 Kids whose attention can only be held by PvP that is extremely fast paced without endless respawns, but I can see some improvements.

Anyone other thoughts?

FrogDevourer

on a GW break until C4

Join Date: Feb 2005

In your shadow

Servants of Fortuna

21 Aug 2006 at 18:49 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alias_X

It is about time this thread got locked.

Agreed. Old topic and flame baits ftl...