My new 55hp sin build :D

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Enchantment Strippers Build:
ok, this build is VERY flexible, it only needs 3 attack skills, and 5 55 skills, very simple. heres an outline:

1. attack skill
2. attack skill
3. attack skill
4. Form of spell breaker
5. healing breeze
6. protective spirit
7. mending
8. balthazars spirit

So to take this outline into action, you could try something like:
1. Zealots Fire
2. Iron Palm
3. Entangling Asp
4. Shadow Form (yes i know i sed its not as good as SB in my last post but this time ill actually raise shadow arts so it will be useful)
5. healing breeze
6. protective spirit
7. mending
8. balthazars spirit

Now, as for the attributes u NEED these attributes:
Healing Prayers: 8
Protection Prayers: 8

apart from that adjust stats to suit your skills, remember that u will have 5 superior runes, so its all going to be 3 before u add, but 1 will be 4. I suggest that you choose deadly arts for the mask. so it could look something like this:

Healing Prayers: 8
Protection Prayers: 8
Smiting Prayers: 8
Deadly Arts: 8+3+1
Shadow Arts: 3+rest

Now thats just for my build to fit the outline, change it according to your skills.

Non-Enchantment Stripper Build:
Ok, this is even more flexible. As for the outline, you need 4 attack and 4 55 skills. This is the outline:

1. attack skill
2. attack skill
3. attack skill
4. attack skill [E]
5. healing breeze
6. protective spirit
7. mending
8. balthazars spirit

This is the outline properly with skills:
1. Zealots Fire
2. Iron Palm
3. Entangling Asp
4. Shield of Judgement [E]
5. healing breeze
6. protective spirit
7. mending
8. balthazars spirit

Attributes:

Now, as for the attributes u NEED these attributes:
Healing Prayers: 8
Protection Prayers: 8

apart from that adjust stats to suit your skills, remember that u will have 5 superior runes, so its all going to be 3 before u add, but 1 will be 4. I suggest that you choose deadly arts for the mask. so it could look something like this:

Healing Prayers: 8
Protection Prayers: 8
Smiting Prayers: 8
Deadly Arts: 8+3+1
Critical Strikes: rest (why critical strikes you ask? to gain energy, durr)

Now thats just for my build to fit the outline, change it according to your skills.

Top Tips:

1: Use the same build, just change your elite skill:
This way you dont need to buy new skills

2: Dont be afraid to try new things:
Basically try out other things, like 55 sin in UW, or FoW (Underworld or Fissure of Woe for all you noobs)

3. Research before you do:
Look at skill effects before u try out in UW, you dont want to waste 1k entry charge, not only that, try it out on similar monsters (obviously not as much hp as an Aatxe, they have around 1080 if u dont know)

Suggested Places:

For Enchant Strippers:
UW
FoW
ToPK (tomb of primeval kings, basically another part of UW)
anywhere you feel like even try a ghial farm

For Non-Enchant Strippers:
Droknars Forge Trolls
Ettins
Avicara

I Left The Best Till Last:

Video and screenshot things to help other people! And help yourself to see how you done it before.

And Finally:
As Jeremy Kyle always says,"We like to help people, but you have to help yourself" well said Jeremy! Try it out, i done this for you, the Guild Wars public! If you wish to donate money to the fund to get my W/R droknars forge armour please do so.

Contact Me:
To contact me either add [email protected] or email me, PM me on here, or add No Damage Tank and PM me on game. Remember to say ty though! lol

PS: u need a hp-50 item to get the cookiecutter hp

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Jeremy Kyle..isn't the that the son of my wife and kids?

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lol, havent u ever seen the Jeremy Kyle show? its on at 9:20am gmt on ITV1

bubalooey

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Sorry for this noob question but this is A/Mo right?

GerryHYH

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bubalooey, aye it is, A/Mo Build And lol, I never knew so many brits here in the forum, its great ^^ But GMTV? oh please.... lol ^^

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"or add No Damage Tank and PM me on game." hahahahaha, I actually I met you before, the name is very familar, but I cant remember where I have met you!

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and where is the video and screen shots man? i aint to convice about the build tbh :S

bubalooey

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Thanks Gerry, One more question!
Do u guys know where i can buy these skills in the faction campaign?

2. Iron Palm
3. Entangling Asp
4. Shadow Form (Mabye elite im not sure, if so where can i cap it? )

GerryHYH

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and where is the video and screen shots man? i aint to convice about the build tbh :S

bubalooey

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Ok so i got entangling asp and iron palm at the end game .. now i just need to know where to cap Shadow form...

btw entangling asp needs to have a lead attack to set it off and i dont see any in your skill bar ><

Hollerith

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These builds can kill an Aatxe?

Is topk even feasible as a /mo?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GerryHYH
and where is the video and screen shots man? i aint to convice about the build tbh :S The build will work just fine on the 55 side of it except maybe some energy management issues when you get down to one or two enemies. But where is the damage output, zealots fire is aoe so mobs will run off if you keep on activating it as your main damage, and iron palm has big cost and long recharge with quite a low damage output, especially if your going to be taking on larger mobs with the 55 build.
Entangling asp is again a high energy skill with long recharge and is a condition and in some mobs will be removed. Soj at a max of 12 and no blessed aura for extra time will take a fair few rounds to kill most mobs, also its long cast time could get interrupted as you have no stance to cover it, when 55 hp monks have bonetti's, mantra of resolve ect.
I think its a perfectly usable build just it would take a mindnumbly long time to kill things.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollerith
These builds can kill an Aatxe?

Is topk even feasible as a /mo? Doubt you can kill an aataxe, You would suffer from extream energy problems, However im not sure if entangling asp has some range? if it does you could provide a few seconds to run for you life when a nightmare pops.
In tomb of previal kings, Its not soloable, fingers ouf chaos makes every possible solo rendered useless, all enchantments are stripped of enchants as monk, interrupted as ele..blinded as and lose a hex when attacking necro's ect. So this is no way doable in topk, same with any other solo out there unfortunatly

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Lol Guitary ^^

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Gerry you triple posted.Without any doubt. tsk tsk tsk


No damage tank, not everyone lives in a country where you can watch ITV. Learn something about the word. It's bigger than just America. *edited out offensive parts*

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...wouldn't u like 2 know...

Tha Skullz

Um...last time I checked you could completely delete your own posts...

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idk about the skills, my assas is only lvl 14 atm and i aint got shadow form yet. but ill cap spell breaker at lvl 20. it will work in theory. if a 55hp monk works a 55hp assasin works :P

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well... with an aatxe u prob would run out of enery. just take sum1 to stick SoJ on u :P and they can also use stuff like essence bond and balthazars spirit.
thats so that you can 1. own quickly and 2. lose the energy problems u wouldnt even need to take stuff like the damage skills.

onto the smites, there are enough smites to cast stuff on urself. BUT... if u got a m8 to cast stuff on u, why not have better regen? then they cast SoJ... own the smites.... u use zealots and 55 skills.... they die

onto coldfire nights, they are tough!!! avoid patrols, BUT if they agro u then u gotta avoid maelstrom, look at them casting maelstrom and RUN AWAY, that way casting gets interrupted, then its a must that u stick on 55 skills and if u want fight it. as far as i know they dont drop ectos, so theyre useless, just a bit of proving to do.

please note that taking an ss/sv/br wouldnt help 1 bit, cos all that would happen would be them casting away, and u running into energy probs. i suppose this is where bonettis is useful for monks. so anyway.... if the ss/sv/br was a n/mo then they couldnt echo, couldnt use sv, and would do less damage than monks. i guess taking a monk with u is best.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
No damage tank, not everyone lives in a country where you can watch ITV. Learn something about the word. It's bigger than just America. *edited out offensive parts* LOL ur telling me that? an english man? isnt it true that americans think that theyre the world?

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I know zealous daggas would make very little regen but would it help enough with this or do you not use daggas at all?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guitary Boy
Doubt you can kill an aataxe, You would suffer from extream energy problems, However im not sure if entangling asp has some range? if it does you could provide a few seconds to run for you life when a nightmare pops.
In tomb of previal kings, Its not soloable, fingers ouf chaos makes every possible solo rendered useless, all enchantments are stripped of enchants as monk, interrupted as ele..blinded as and lose a hex when attacking necro's ect. So this is no way doable in topk, same with any other solo out there unfortunatly sorry for posting a lot in a row, just im having to reply to everyone.

anyway, Guitary Boy, 1 learn to spell extream, 2 entangling asp dont need range... TRY READING SKILL NUMBER 4!!! and btw, as a monk? rofl CAN U READ its an a/mo not mo/a!! noob and again, read skill number 4.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubalooey
Ok so i got entangling asp and iron palm at the end game .. now i just need to know where to cap Shadow form...

btw entangling asp needs to have a lead attack to set it off and i dont see any in your skill bar >< do u seriously think that i dont look at skills before i post them? i will now quote part of my origonal post.

"3. Research before you do:
Look at skill effects before u try out in UW, you dont want to waste 1k entry charge, not only that, try it out on similar monsters (obviously not as much hp as an Aatxe, they have around 1080 if u dont know)"

now i will quote the effect of iron palm as provided by guildwarsguru, the parts in bold are parts that show how entangling asp will work :P

"Target touched foe suffers 5...41 damage, and if that foe is suffering from a Hex or Condition that foe is knocked down. Iron Palm counts as a lead attack."

next time try following tip 3, research before u make an idiot out of urself, see why i posted it now?
it also helps u to make a build :P

Dark Tykane

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Quote:
Originally Posted by no damage tank
do u seriously think that i dont look at skills before i post them? i will now quote part of my origonal post.

"3. Research before you do:
Look at skill effects before u try out in UW, you dont want to waste 1k entry charge, not only that, try it out on similar monsters (obviously not as much hp as an Aatxe, they have around 1080 if u dont know)"

now i will quote the effect of iron palm as provided by guildwarsguru, the parts in bold are parts that show how entangling asp will work :P

"Target touched foe suffers 5...41 damage, and if that foe is suffering from a Hex or Condition that foe is knocked down. Iron Palm counts as a lead attack."

next time try following tip 3, research before u make an idiot out of urself, see why i posted it now?
it also helps u to make a build :P Cranky...or just a prick?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Tykane
I know zealous daggas would make very little regen but would it help enough with this or do you not use daggas at all? im a noob!!! DAGGERS!!! ROFL TRY READING

main problem....i will now quote a part of my own origonal post. "PS: u need a hp-50 item to get the cookiecutter hp" unless u get -50hp daggers it wont help, which u cant get. and 105hp means u take 10 dmg with protective spirit on. which means with a load of smites attking u it WOULDNT work, with 10 hp regen u heal off about 50hp a sec i think, but with 5+ smites its more than 50 = u DEAD

problem 2.... 1 energy regen, and u wouldnt get the 6 energy from the offhand, + the 5 energy if ur using a totem axe (use 1) unless u get +5 energy daggers, and most the time ur casting spells, not only that u use deadly arts.

if u followed tip 3 then u wouldnt of posted this DUMB idea

ps.. learn to spell

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Tykane
Cranky...or just a prick? well... if he read it first then he wouldnt of made an idiot out of urself. now if u wanna have an argument ur looking at the #1 in arguments!! i sed wat needed to be sed, if u dont get idiots into line then they will go on being an idiot. i think thats the case WITH u

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now can we plz get this thread BACK to criticism thats not false, and not flaming.

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He what a joke laughing at me for the dagger part? I bet you i could make a 105 ass build your just a mindless prick.
People ask questions it doesn't mean their idiots wether they felt like reading or not the person who seems more idiotic is the one acting better than others because he thinks he knows how things "should" be done.

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actually i DID make a 105hp sin build, it was shit. so there, u cant heal off more than 5 monsters. but u could try not being a dick and posting about would daggers be good in a 55 hp

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Tykane
Im just a prick who always likes to flame yup u sure are

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Quote:
Originally Posted by no damage tank
sorry for posting a lot in a row, just im having to reply to everyone.

anyway, Guitary Boy, 1 learn to spell extream, 2 entangling asp dont need range... TRY READING SKILL NUMBER 4!!! and btw, as a monk? rofl CAN U READ its an a/mo not mo/a!! noob and again, read skill number 4.
You just killed english your self there. You spelt extreme wrong your self there, it was my bad and you dont have to flame me for it. I was trying to offer you constructive criticism which again you dont have to flame me for, what do you mean entagling asp does'nt need range, it would help if you could interrupt a dying nightmares rend enchantments from a range rather than having to waste a few critical seconds and potentially aggro an aataxe, that said a knockdown from range is very helpful no matter what, oh and iron palm happens to be a touch attack, thus it is'nt ranged.
You wont have spell breaker as its devine favour, shadow form i will bet money will get you killed, because you lose all but 14 health and you will have 3 less pips of regen than a normal 55 monk, and you will be bleeding so thats 6 regen, sudden 14 health and you happen to be tanking a few foes.
Guess whats next.
Do some research your self, a/mo or mo/a in tomb of previal kings means nothing, fingures of chaos affects both primary and secondary proffesion, there for you will lose a enchantment anyway.

Quote: Originally Posted by no damage tank next time try following tip 3, research before u make an idiot out of urself You either imagined your own research, did'nt do any or did very little. Either way dont tell other people that they are idiots for asking questions, getting flamed at by you then defending themselves, when you are making more of an idiot out of you self than any one here, and dont tell me how to spell when every other one of your words doesnt even exist.

Quote: Originally Posted by no damage tank
k about the skills, my assas is only lvl 14 atm and i aint got shadow form yet. but ill cap spell breaker at lvl 20. it will work in theory. Backing up my above statement. You wont use spell breaker because its devine favour, and you dont have that because your an assasin primary. You havent even used the build? Theory isnt enough, test and use builds, make sure they work, then post your findings, not what you think will or wont work.
Dont edit your quotes to say things like " im a noob!!!!" When they are trying to post a suggestion/ask a question. Or "Im just a prick who always likes to flame" Followed by your self posting you sure are, when you have no basis for this. Infact he was taking note of your own flaming of other people.
Almost all your posts are criticism, and no you didnt make a 105 hp assasin because your not even at level 20 yet so you dont have enough hp for the runes/cesta not to reduce your health below 0.
You havent thought your build through, you flamed every one that tried to offer suggestions, including childishly editing posts to make yourself look big and others look stupid. You havent even used your build yet you know so much about it, how does this work? You tell others to research when you have done none your self. You tell me to learn how to spell, when like i said. Most of your words don't even come from the english language.
Heres a few tips: Be nice to people, accept criticism and take into account what they said, dont flame people to death for it. If some one has a idea that wont work, why do you need to call them noobs, then flame them for it and try to make them look like idiots? Thanks for the idea but it wont work beats zomg you noob hows you going to be 55hp when you need the cesta you cant hold daggers you noob. Dont tell people to learn to spell when you cant spell your self. All the criticism that was posted was based on somthing. Also :
Quote:
Originally Posted by no damage tank
well... with an aatxe u prob would run out of enery. just take sum1 to stick SoJ on u :P and they can also use stuff like essence bond and balthazars spirit.
thats so that you can 1. own quickly and 2. lose the energy problems u wouldnt even need to take stuff like the damage skills.

onto the smites, there are enough smites to cast stuff on urself. BUT... if u got a m8 to cast stuff on u, why not have better regen? then they cast SoJ... own the smites.... u use zealots and 55 skills.... they die

onto coldfire nights, they are tough!!! avoid patrols, BUT if they agro u then u gotta avoid maelstrom, look at them casting maelstrom and RUN AWAY, that way casting gets interrupted, then its a must that u stick on 55 skills and if u want fight it. as far as i know they dont drop ectos, so theyre useless, just a bit of proving to do.

please note that taking an ss/sv/br wouldnt help 1 bit, cos all that would happen would be them casting away, and u running into energy probs. i suppose this is where bonettis is useful for monks. so anyway.... if the ss/sv/br was a n/mo then they couldnt echo, couldnt use sv, and would do less damage than monks. i guess taking a monk with u is best. Taking an ss/sv/br would be the best think you could do. It would speed up the killing greatly...or just do all the killing. Bonetti's defence is'nt a monk skill, again great research there, and why would the monk even need it because they will be supporting you not fighting. Thinking about it you wouldnt even need a monk, SoJ is waaay slower than an ss, it knocks down and it cant be applied to multiple targets not to mention its stripable, and all a monk can do is heal. A ss will help with you energy as well as just being generally faster. You wont get anywhere sitting there spamming iron palm and entangling asp.
I think you just watched a few videos of u/w duo, read a guide or two then thought you could make one for your self, when you base your whole thread around a concept build you have probably never used looking at your knowlage of the skills and usefulness a monk over an ss.


GG

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nope. cos an ss/sv/br cant use essence bond and balth spirit on u, if they did they wud be a n/mo so they couldnt echo = less dmg than SoJ :P

and btw, this is just a build to show that sins ARE useful cos they can solo things like avicara faster than 55 monks :P and trolls and anything that dont strip enchants, it could even handle titans faster than a 55 monk :P

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idd no damage tank, no need to flame ^^

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No damage tank, I'm going to sound like a moderator now, but can you please take care of your english? Also triple posting is really arrogant, just edit your previous posts, untill someone replied again.

I'm sure the build works, untill I get some proof, I will not rate/rant it though.

Also, I'm not English/American/Canadian.

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well.... a 55 monk works... and assasins have the same energy and energy regen as monks so it works :P if a 55 warrior works a 55 sin works...

and btw, guitary boy u are an idiotic dick head, if people were to actually read my post then they wouldnt of replied with the nooby ignorant questions then i wouldnt flame them. so try to read my actual post AND wat they sed b4 u say im dumb.

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does anyone have a screen shot of this build being used? in UW or any basic farming spot?

sick of chest farming so i might try this. i was just wondering?

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I suggest you wait chessyang. Mister No Damage Tank here has a big mouth, and little proof.

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big mouth? rofl i just say about the build. if u try out 55 monks on droks trolls then try out 55 sins, its basically same sorta skills except a bit more dmg :P

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Then Post a screenshot instead of calling ppl dick head..

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i would post a screenshot if i had tried this build yet. try reading dick head.

and yanman, i didnt say u were english, american or canadian... durr

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But Itv is English. ( didn't know that until I googled it, thought it was American )

Hah! So you admit you don't have any way of assuring us the build works? You haven't tested it yourself!