Will Nightfall dissapoint?

foody

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

PA

W/

i have a bad feeling i will be dissapointed with nightfall like i was with factions. it was hyped so much and it just dissapointed me with the stupid luxon kurzick crap. allince battles n aspenwoods and jade quarry was fun but the rp was just boring. the quests were kinda hard in the beggining for just starting like mayhem in the market.... get booted off island around 12-14 n then have to go right for lvl 20 monsters.... i just didint like it and i hope it dosent happen agian. the rt n assasin were ok but i do not like the dervish or paragon at all. please give me some thoughts and concerns if anyone has any.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Custom Heroes sounds more interesting that Faction vs. Faction, admittingly.

I have a feeling that ArenaNet will learn from their mistake.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

no it will not be a disappointment. Actually it might be to some people if they dont get what they are looking, you cant make everyone happy but I think they have learned from their mistakes and are going to give us a much better game and im excited to play it. The game WILL ave flaws and it wont be perfect and thats what updates are for.

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

It honestly depends how badly they nerf dervish IMO.

nugzta

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

You can wait 1 month after release, we will let you know.

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Seeing that most people have extremely high expectations from Nightfall, it will probably dissapoint. However, it will still be a good game, and very likable by all players. Just not up to their expectations.

That's just my guess.

Ken Dei

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendary Shiz
It honestly depends how badly they nerf dervish IMO.
I agree, the Dervish, and to a lesser extent the Paragon are both good classes, trashing them completely would be really bad.

In addition, I really do think Factions was a trial run. I have much faith in Nightfall.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

You can't have high expectations of sequels from the original impression. It kills when the expectations aren't met.

About Factions...it was okay except for the CITY's quests which were incredibly fed-ex.

I have higher expectations for the Paragon than Dervish...more combo-ability with other classes.

Things I'm thinking about:

A/P, W/P, P/W, R/P

Ryo Azuro

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Brotherhood of Pandemonium

E/Me

I think Nightfall will be a success. I really wanna try out some new builds. Guess we'll see what happens in a few months.

- Ryo

Mister_Smiley

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Well i like Factions, i found it really good, then again, i look at everything, yes the story line was not great, but the modeling the was it was put togeather and everything else i really liked. So for me i like it. As for Nightfall, i like both the new classes and i most likey will like the game becuase it just the way i am. Give about a month after it comes out and i will have a better idea of what people should thing about nightfall.

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

Factions might have been a type of trial run, but they will get better at this. I think every 6 months, a new PvE version of gw, and every other 6 months pvp. Eventually they will get better at bringing in stuff that people really want.

When Factions was to be released, I remember like 4 days beforehand them announcing all this new stuff, including Titles as one of the main things, 4 DAYS BEFOREHAND. So our best bet, is that the BEST STUFF IS YET TO BE ANNOUNCED. Which of course keeps us hopefull.......

auction house.....auction house....auction house......

Mr.Deflok

Mr.Deflok

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wellington, New Zealand

Guardians of Dragon Temple

E/Me

I've been to the future twice now, and I can say with absolute certainty that Nightfall will not disappoint.

It's the 5th Chapter we must worry about.

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

people will buy Guild Wars, and complain.
people will buy Factions, and whine alot
people will buy Nightfall and maintain it.

vinegrower

vinegrower

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Song of the Forsaken

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Opeth11
Seeing that most people have extremely high expectations from Nightfall, it will probably dissapoint. However, it will still be a good game, and very likable by all players. Just not up to their expectations.

That's just my guess.
I think Opeth is hitting on the key factor. Your own expectations are what makes the game dissapointing or not. Sure Anet will put out a lot of hype, they have to in order to grab the needed headlines, that is how advertising works. I mean, honestly, have you ever seen a Big Mac in real life that looks like as good as the ones in the commercials? Then you put that hype in the hands of forum readers and it quickly spins out of controll, and expectations go through the roof. (i.e. OMG, it is called NightFALL, as in we will be able to fall, so we must be able to jump, NIGHTFALL WILL INCLUDE JUMPING)

If you just expect a good game that continues the series, you more than likely will not be dissapointed. If you get enraptured by all the hype, especially the hype that exists on forums, you will most likely be dissapointed.

TiNkLeR

TiNkLeR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

Night Fall,1º its the team of Prophecies,2º we dont have some chinese gay things, we have evil creatures, 3º with evil bosses, 4º a new whole PvE sistem.

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Its a GuildWars that we never seen before.
Quoted from guildwars.com

MerLock

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Factions is cool, wats wrong with it? Having a blast in it. Just don't like the expert and master system in the missions.

mega_jamie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

Warlords of Ruin

A/Mo

An inteligent Dev team will have looked at our complaints/suggestions and approvals from factions and tried to get these into Nightfall. Hopefully Anet have themselves an inteliget Dev team.

But I doubt that Nightfall will bomb, the number of people called Xxx Reaper Xxx or ||| Death ||| will increase of course :-S

Hakuin

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Equal Opprotunity Employers

Mo/W

i for one am happy with both of the chapters, more prophecies than factions i would have to say. factions was fun for 1 character, but after that, i got bored with the missions and what not. i didnt mind all the chinese stuff, and as far as nightfall goes, just cause of where it is based (elona, kind of a part of prophecies) i think it will be PvE based.... as i think Factions was PvP based. so it will give soething to those players who like PvE again. the one thing about factions i didnt liek however, was that EVERY boss had a gren to his name.... i like alot of the greens (stonreaper, sskai's sword, ghials staff...) but i think that was just overboard. the point of greens (i thought) was supposed to be more rare than a gold. i see greens going for a few hundred gp, and the golds at 100k+ sometimes.... i wish the green were worth more again ^^;;

all in all i think nightfall will not dissapoint.

oh btw

Quote:
hen you put that hype in the hands of forum readers and it quickly spins out of controll, and expectations go through the roof. (i.e. OMG, it is called NightFALL, as in we will be able to fall, so we must be able to jump, NIGHTFALL WILL INCLUDE JUMPING)
/jump <-- ZOMGZOR i can jump!!!

Raziel665

Raziel665

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by TiNkLeR
Night Fall,1º its the team of Prophecies,2º we dont have some chinese gay things, we have evil creatures, 3º with evil bosses, 4º a new whole PvE sistem.
Yes, cause everything even remotely chinese is instantly gay >.>
Besides, whats so chinese about the Kurzicks and Luxons anyway?

On topic, Nightfall will only disappoint if you want it to. If you are gonna sit here for a few weeks telling yourself its gonna disappoint over and over, then yes, it will disappoint.
Works the other way too, screaming its gonna be the best GW ever may leave you a bit dissapointed if not everything you thought there would be is in the game.

Will it dissapoint? Maybe.
Will it be a bad game? Of course not.

Empex

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

I take it you don't remember how much whining about the game there was after the release of prophecies? Now suddently everyone loves prophecies and hates factions. People on internet forums whine, that's what they do.

Sagaris

Sagaris

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands.

Nuhuh.. not for me. Anything that carries the name Guild Wars doesn't disappoint me.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

There will undoubtedly be people unhappy with it, threatening to leave the game if something specific isn't done, because epople enjoy pissing and moaning. Visit any game forum.

bigwig

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

some people have all ready made up their minds.

Lil' Bill

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Unholy Legions

N/Mo

The thing that's worrying me most is how will choose what class I want to be? I really want a dervish but with 9 class's to choose from for a secondary its going to get real confusing. I feel sorry for any people who join into nightfall its going to be very confusing and if they dont buy the other games they wont have space to try different class's out and 4 spaces can only go so far...

kimahri

kimahri

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

E/

I try to keep my expectations low, and simply wait and see how it is. I try not to hype it up too much but it's hard when you see the log-in screen .

Rusty Deth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Woodland Realm

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious
people will buy Guild Wars, and complain.
people will buy Factions, and whine alot
people will buy Nightfall and maintain it.
lol no kidding...

In fact before Factions, people were complaining that Prophecies wasn't like WoW and didn't have enough PvP.

Then when Factions came out people complained it wasn't like Prophecies and had too much PvP.

For me I will buy Nightfall and love it, just like I did with Prohecies and Factions.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

I will be watching the forums closely for you guys to tell me if it sucks

unless of course the mods just decide to close every negative threads and ban any who say otherwise, then you know for sure to stay away from the game and the community

TiNkLeR

TiNkLeR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

Its Prophecies team, A guildwars that we never seen before.

Its impossible to not like it.. lol

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

there is also hope for the chapter 4 team as well as Anet has been and will continue to gather data on players preferences.

this means how they actually play not how they forum bitch about something.

you can bet that chapter 4 is prepared to jump either way (more PVE/PVP) depending on how people play Nightfall.

if Nightfall is a bigger success than Factions as determined by their play logs they have the lead time to add a bunch of the chapter 3 stuff that people have shown they like by the play logs to chapter 4.

as i said a year ago the first few chapters will be finding out what the sweet spot balance is between PVE/PVP and then it will settle down

foody

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

PA

W/

it does not matter when you do an amazing game like gw1 you need to match it or make it better and to everyone who says a sequel is never better then the original it is a bull s*** lie. Terminator 2 was better then 1 diablo 2 was better then diablo 1 finial fantasy 7 was better then 1-6 and 8-?. sorry for spelling it is to early.

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Quote:
the point of greens (i thought) was supposed to be more rare than a gold.
actually, iirc, the greens are supposed to be a cheap way for players to get good weapons...

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

I'm looking forward to it - providing they dont kick anymore classes in the nuts to keep PvP "no counter" whiners happy

Brewmaster

Brewmaster

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Just a ramblin' man, no place to call home...

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by foody
it does not matter when you do an amazing game like gw1 you need to match it or make it better and to everyone who says a sequel is never better then the original it is a bull s*** lie. Terminator 2 was better then 1 diablo 2 was better then diablo 1 finial fantasy 7 was better then 1-6 and 8-?. sorry for spelling it is to early.
My thoughts exactly.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Deth
lol no kidding...

In fact before Factions, people were complaining that Prophecies wasn't like WoW and didn't have enough PvP.

Then when Factions came out people complained it wasn't like Prophecies and had too much PvP.

For me I will buy Nightfall and love it, just like I did with Prohecies and Factions.
Anyone can complain. You'd think the whiners would put some effort into thinking. (Which may be hard for them) And focus on whats good about the game.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Well there's no way of knowing but some things: it's being made by the team who made the original Prophecies (good thing) and also they've said several times over now it's more for the PvE crowd, while Factions was more PvP focussed (so that's good for the PvE folks)

One thing though I'm pretty sure of, it will be smaller than Prophecies due to not having years of work on it, but hopefully still bigger than Factions.

Either way, I get the feeling a fair number of people will decide to buy/not buy future chapters based on how good this one turns out to be.

Da Cebuano

Da Cebuano

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Virginia born in Cebu

Jelly Toast[jT]

W/

As long as its pve isn't set up like factions and its pvp to be more versatile w/ the 2 new classes not adding whole new dimensions of balance problems, then it'll be fine. I know the consequent chapters will never be as big as prophecies but it should be set up like it was in prophecies, made the game alot more playable for repeaters.

Align

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by foody
finial fantasy 7 was better then 1-6 and 8-?
HAHAHA
No.

Also, I hate factions, but never understood why people complained about Prophecies. I'm in love with Nightfall.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaKai
Anyone can complain. You'd think the whiners would put some effort into thinking. (Which may be hard for them) And focus on whats good about the game.
Anyone can clump people wit all types of disagreements with the game into one big generalization.

There is a difference between blind complaints and actual issues and suggestions.

Bocjo Bassannn

Bocjo Bassannn

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Texas

Pervs R Us {pErV}

Mo/Me

Will Nightfall dissapoint only if you set unrealistic expectations... NOBODY will get everything they want thats just how things go..

But for me I'm excited.. The hero vs hero thing sounds fun as hell... The rumored customizable henchies sounds awesome as well... The saved skillsets for your characters I have been wanting since early on in Prophecies. ( GO ANET!!) The new characters look like fun as well.

I too pray for a improved way to sell and trade things... I HATE spamming to sell my finds to the public it just simply takes to much time away from killing stuff. Yet even if I don't get an auction house or something of the sort who cares? What we have works if the community uses it in an intelligent way, and I can turn it off when it gets too annoying.( trade chat is not idiot proof thats its main problem)

I'm a fanboy I wont even try to deny it. This game and how it evolves from balance change to balance change (I hate the term nerf) keeps the game intresting and fresh even for someone like me with just over 5200 hrs of playtime across two accounts. So another chapter, more bad guys to kill, more places to explore, new skills, new characters, new wepon skins....... How could I possibly be dissapointed?

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

will wait until it:
1 hits the store shelves
2 gets reviews that I like
3 gets approval from my hubby that it is ok to buy (gets reviews he likes)

if all the above conditions are met....I MAY purchase it....but I will NEVER pre-order again!