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Omega X

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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28 Aug 2006 at 04:15 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLordOfBlah

I dont think therye just going to merge the K+H functions together, I wouldnt want to make a new template for a build i'm only testing out. So I think one is for saving and one is for any temporary builds.

EDIT: Didnt notice before that it says "Skills and Attributes" on the top bar. Maybe im looking at this wrong.

They are merging the Attributes Tab and the Skills Window under the [K] command.

Templates might or might not be accessible to previous chapters but that major change of the interface will be. I see no reason for them to hold back the change for previous chapters, but if the past "Material Tab" incident was proof for anything. They could very well withhold the Templates feature and go back on their word about core changes. Which also means they can hold back the Reconnect feature as well.

Also, they will most likely use the [H] Hero window for the Custom Heroes Feature. It makes sense.

Ellipson

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28 Aug 2006 at 05:51 - 42

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Originally Posted by dargon

Just as a side note, this COULD be for the configurable henchmen. We won't know till it's released, so I don't recommend making any assumptions that might get peoples hopes up, only to piss them off when it's actually shown to be something different.

It looks like the configurable henchmen to me, too. Look at the way the skill bar is INSIDE the menu, instead of down below it.

WhiteZombie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

28 Aug 2006 at 07:55 - 43

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Originally Posted by Omega X

IT seems that this is a PvP menu. I doubt that PvE characters will be able to change their Second Profession on the fly. So that will probably be grayed out for Role Playing Characters.

most likely, you will 'unlock' secondaries via pve for pve characters, by either buying or questing for them ala prophecies/factions, and then they will be 'unlocked' on your template screen to change freely whenever you like. this would cut out the stupid system of having to travel to a particular outpost to change your secondaries, another welcome change.

Indian

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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28 Aug 2006 at 17:36 - 44

woot! nice

i'm hoping Nightfall release will pull me in again to play GW hardcore, like i used to do, when it 1st released back in '05.

Horseman Of War

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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28 Aug 2006 at 17:57 - 45

my educated guess will be that this is a Nightfall - Only feature... as it will be able to be combined with the 'custom henchies' feature.

holding on to any hope that you will get this feature without Nightfall is just in vain.

GloryFox

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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28 Aug 2006 at 18:00 - 46

/cheer

YES TEMPLATES! ONE OF THE MOST REQUESTED FEATURES FOR THE GAME! NIGHTFALL ROCKS AND IT HAS NOT EVEN LEFT DEVELOPMENT TABLE!

Kid Divinity

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Zydian Coven

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28 Aug 2006 at 18:08 - 47

Overcome with joy, I ripped of my clothes and danced naked through the streets. I will be sending A-Net a bill for the lawyer fees.

I'd pay the $50 for this feature alone.

BenO_Under

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28 Aug 2006 at 18:35 - 48

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

how did you get a hold of this if you don't mind me asking ^_^

right here
just keep scrolling down till you see guildwars nightfall

Edit: someone already posted it...

SpeedyKQ

Krytan Explorer

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E/Me

28 Aug 2006 at 18:56 - 49

Very nice. Hope it allows for changing your secondary.

AsyaMordina

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

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28 Aug 2006 at 19:09 - 50

At first glance I was like 'Yeah! They finally implemented templates!'; however, being post character generation, it appears to be PvE focused. Thus of little use to the PvP-only characters. Instead of character based templates, it appears to be skillbar based templates (otherwise runes/armors/weapons would be selectable).

I truely hope they implement a character based template for those saving a single slot for PvP.

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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28 Aug 2006 at 19:13 - 51

you guys remember back in the day when you had to get experience for 'refund points' as the only way to change your attributes?

I think I actually deleted (remade) my very first character because of that (like oh dang i dont have enough refund points, and i cant quest worth crap now cuz my skills are 4, 4, 4, 4, 3)

personally I dont even really WANT to be able to change my second profession on RP characters without the unlock-quest....

although a guild-hall changer for those characters that DO QUALIFY would be a convenience at times...

Omega X

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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28 Aug 2006 at 19:53 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horseman Of War

my educated guess will be that this is a Nightfall - Only feature... as it will be able to be combined with the 'custom henchies' feature.

holding on to any hope that you will get this feature without Nightfall is just in vain.

WE won't actually know that until its confirmed by Anet.

Voltar

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29 Aug 2006 at 07:39 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenrath

The "profession" bit is curious though, since currently you can't change secondary profession unless you see a particular NPC (or reroll your PvP char).

good eye. i kinda saw that and thought for a second but i didn't realize what that was all about.

weird how it has the primary on there too. not sure what to make of that.

Hengis

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29 Aug 2006 at 11:57 - 54

I am very interested in how this is going to work in reality.

I too am one of those with various sets of armour for different builds. For example my MM build uses a superior rune of death magic on his scar armour and my SS build uses a superior curses rune on his scar armour.

Now, as you can only equip armour that is in your inventory rather than in storage, I wonder how the templates will cope with that, or even if they will cope with that? The same applies to weapons too of course.

As attributes also depend on the runes on the armour, will the templates only remember the base (without runes applied) attributes?

I really am looking forward to this change though!

Knightsaber Sith

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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29 Aug 2006 at 12:13 - 55

I'm pretty sure the templates will only remember skills and base attributes. You'll have to switch armors and weapons manually.

Count to Potato

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29 Aug 2006 at 13:18 - 56

finally rerolling my characters wont take so long

Bane of Worlds

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Meadow

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30 Aug 2006 at 12:23 - 57

it's a timesaver so will it be in the GW store since it's not essential?

DOCB22

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30 Aug 2006 at 12:37 - 58

To me it looks like the new "HERO" ie. companion to your main character. config screen that was in this article http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/guildw...pdates;title;0

Karalin Taucher

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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30 Aug 2006 at 12:54 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOCB22

To me it looks like the new "HERO" ie. companion to your main character. config screen that was in this article http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/guildw...pdates;title;0

Here's a quote from the article that originally posted the pictures.
First noticeable difference is the "Skills and Attributes" dialog which combined those two things in one uber huge dialog. In addition there had been the mysterious "Templates" button, which had been existent but grayed out and unusable. An unnamed source said there will not be any comment on that button from anyone but of course we should feel free to take pictures and start spreading rumors in the internet. Well, here they are, hehe.

I refuse to get my hopes up about the exact nature of this new feature, as I have suspicions it may be PvP only. However I refuse to believe that this is a henchmen customisation screen. The reason the skillbar is at the bottom of the window could be so that you have a visual reminder of the build before you apply it.

w00t

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scopion Empire

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30 Aug 2006 at 16:58 - 60

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Originally Posted by Ravi

i cant seriously believe how ppl are expecting to get this template upgrade, it is a FEATURE, not an interface upgrade , plz ppl dont be so cheap and expect to get free FEATURES, only expect INTERFACE upgrades.

i dont care.....
This feature should have been there from day one in the game not in the 3rd game no doubt i buy the game as i did with the 2 others still took WAY to long for this feature to be added

ducktape

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/R

30 Aug 2006 at 19:39 - 61

Yay! Skill sets! I hope it saves your skill bar and attribute point allocation, but anything they add to make changing skills or attribute points more convenient is awesome in my book.

Reiden Argrock

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Arizona

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30 Aug 2006 at 21:40 - 62

was excited, my bad.

thanks for the link anyway

Knightsaber Sith

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30 Aug 2006 at 21:44 - 63

There's already a whole thread devoted to the pics taken from Leipzig, I have no idea why you posted those in here....

akaRob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/W

14 Sep 2006 at 14:16 - 64

Wouldn't mind seeing it in the other Guild Wars chapters. It's a feature thats so obviously needed it should been in from the beginning if you ask me. Chances are they thought about it from the beginning, but saved it so they had somthing extra to add in a later chapter. Excellent!

EternalTempest

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United States

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14 Sep 2006 at 14:24 - 65

When anet handled the "material" storage linked to Factions or Factions + Latter, would not surprise me if templates are handled this way.

That being said, I can't wait for this feature. Saves many scrape paper on the computer desk

Count Feanor

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14 Sep 2006 at 14:37 - 66

The title of this thread should be edited as this has not been confirmed by any dev. This could be a dangerous speculation.

Mordakai

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Kyhlo

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14 Sep 2006 at 15:04 - 67

Well, it is in PC Gamer, and has not been denied by Anet...

I think it's a safe bet we'll see Skill (and Profession!) templates in Nightfall.

Yes, according to PC Gamer, you will be able to change your secondary in Outposts in Nightfall, and even set up templates of builds. (I assume you'll have to unlock the secondary first...)

But you're right, it has not been confirmed.

EDIT: Gaile just confirmed there will be Assassin and Ritualist skills in Nightfall, so for what it's worth, PC Gamer got that right...

Count Feanor

Krytan Explorer

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14 Sep 2006 at 15:44 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

Well, it is in PC Gamer, and has not been denied by Anet...

I think it's a safe bet we'll see Skill (and Profession!) templates in Nightfall.

Yes, according to PC Gamer, you will be able to change your secondary in Outposts in Nightfall, and even set up templates of builds. (I assume you'll have to unlock the secondary first...)

But you're right, it has not been confirmed.

EDIT: Gaile just confirmed there will be Assassin and Ritualist skills in Nightfall, so for what it's worth, PC Gamer got that right...

I just read the thread about the contents of the November edition of PC Gamer and can see some more convincing evidence of this. I really hope so as it would totally rock.

godlyadam

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

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14 Sep 2006 at 16:06 - 69

This is clearly a feature that should of been in the game from the start, they're obviously using 'purposefully left out' features as incentives to purchase each new expansion.

kimahri

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14 Sep 2006 at 17:43 - 70

I can't wait till they add this!

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

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14 Sep 2006 at 17:47 - 71

Quote:

posted by godlyadam
This is clearly a feature that should of been in the game from the start, they're obviously using 'purposefully left out' features as incentives to purchase each new expansion.

Im sorry how was this "purposefully left out" GW is an evolveing game and the developers simply add what needs to be added over time.

Kai Nui

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14 Sep 2006 at 18:07 - 72

Cookie Cutters Unite!

Mordakai

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Kyhlo

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14 Sep 2006 at 18:13 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by godlyadam

This is clearly a feature that should of been in the game from the start, they're obviously using 'purposefully left out' features as incentives to purchase each new expansion.

Yes, "obviously" Anet foresaw the future, and purposely left this feature out so they could make a great selling point for Chapter 3.

Please. It's a nice feature, but not the main selling point (to me) for Nightfall. I think it's great Anet listens to their customers and gives us what we want.

I also think it's silly to expect this kind of service for free. Anet is not a charity, and as long as these features are included with all the content a new Chapter brings, I'll be glad.

(I wouldn't be willing to spend money just for this feature, for example.)

godlyadam

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14 Sep 2006 at 18:31 - 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

Yes, "obviously" Anet foresaw the future, and purposely left this feature out so they could make a great selling point for Chapter 3.

Please. It's a nice feature, but not the main selling point (to me) for Nightfall. I think it's great Anet listens to their customers and gives us what we want.

I also think it's silly to expect this kind of service for free. Anet is not a charity, and as long as these features are included with all the content a new Chapter brings, I'll be glad.

(I wouldn't be willing to spend money just for this feature, for example.)

I don't remember saying it was the main selling point, but don't fool yourselves into thinking they only just thought to add this, offering things like this (and the material storage) to only the people with the latest expanison , is, ofcourse an intended selling point. 'I also think it's silly to expect this kind of service for free. Anet is not a charity' You realise they make a new expansion every 6 months or whatever it is, to make up for not having a monthly fee (which also explains the cheapo servers) right? Aslong as they keep offering 'revolutionary' features no one could ever think of like material storage and skill pre-sets, thrown in with some new content people will carry on buying them.

akaRob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

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14 Sep 2006 at 18:43 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by godlyadam

I don't remember saying it was the main selling point, but don't fool yourselves into thinking they only just thought to add this, offering things like this (and the material storage) to only the people with the latest expanison , is, ofcourse an intended selling point. 'I also think it's silly to expect this kind of service for free. Anet is not a charity' You realise they make a new expansion every 6 months or whatever it is, to make up for not having a monthly fee (which also explains the cheapo servers) right? Aslong as they keep offering 'revolutionary' features no one could ever think of like material storage and skill pre-sets, thrown in with some new content people will carry on buying them.

Mordakai, you say Anet are not a charity so you must realise they are a company, and like alot of companies they are out to make money right? Yeah thats right, how do they make money? Employing strategies like this, all game developers do it. They 'obviously' save ideas to keep the series going. I think it's foolish to see people giving it "I <3 Anet," because it's all part of their plan anyway, they havn't listened to you, im sure if 10,000 gamers can think of the idea a single developer can.

Mordakai

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Kyhlo

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14 Sep 2006 at 18:51 - 76

Again, my point is, "people are upset... WHY?"

You're getting a feature you want. Be happy. Don't bitch and say this feature should have been available from the beginning.

godlyadam

Ascalonian Squire

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14 Sep 2006 at 18:52 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by akaRob

Mordakai, you say Anet are not a charity so you must realise they are a company, and like alot of companies they are out to make money right? Yeah thats right, how do they make money? Employing strategies like this, all game developers do it. They 'obviously' save ideas to keep the series going. I think it's foolish to see people giving it "I <3 Anet," because it's all part of their plan anyway, they havn't listened to you, im sure if 10,000 gamers can think of the idea a single developer can.

That's right, if they put all of their ideas into the first game, it would be a great game no doubt, but they wouldn't be able to bring anything new to the table and make some good, worthwhile expansions (which in the long run would make them more money than releasing only the one game with everything included).

akaRob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

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14 Sep 2006 at 18:54 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

Again, my point is, "people are upset... WHY?"

You're getting a feature you want. Be happy. Don't bitch and say this feature should have been available from the beginning.

I'm not bitching. My point is don't kiss their arses for it because they just see £30 when they look at you mate, like they do everyone.

Mordakai

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Kyhlo

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14 Sep 2006 at 18:56 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by akaRob

I'm not bitching. My point is don't kiss their arses for it because they just see £30 when they look at you mate, like they do everyone.

Whatever. It's a great feature, but I would buy Nightfall anyway.

So, who's the sucker now?!? Oh, wait, I am.

godlyadam

Ascalonian Squire

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14 Sep 2006 at 18:58 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

Again, my point is, "people are upset... WHY?"

You're getting a feature you want. Be happy. Don't bitch and say this feature should have been available from the beginning.

I'm not upset, I'm glad they're adding it, but my point was don't kid yourselves, not just you, into believing it's a new idea or added by popular demand, but you couldn't accept that.