Guild Wars Nightfall Completion group.

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Im intending to organise a group to go through Nightfall as quickly as possible. Maybe without sleep depending on how long it takes us (i.e. after 2 full days we will probably need a break). Anyway I figured I should look for interest and start organising it.

I am lo0oking for at least a certain level of ability in the people coming, so say any qualifications. (god that sounds pompous and arrogant)

This is the party I intend to take. (we will be starting with brand new characters, not tyrian/canthan)

1. Warrior -Mortal Transfer
2. Dervish -The Truth Itself
3. Ranger -NevinJF
4. Elementalist -Amok Affinity
5. Necro Minion Master
6. Paragon -Linkusmax
7. Monk -KurtTheBehemoth
8. Monk - Bowman Artemis

Say what you would be interested in playing.


We will be using Ventrillo, I will be frapsing important parts and will be posting screenshots on guru (most likely in the community works forum if possible) here every two hours.

-There is currently another post on GWOnline for the same reason, I will update both with interested parties/new information.

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

with the addition of heroes... may want to reconsider how many players you really need

http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/guildw...pdates;title;0
Quote:
the top-end dungeons can now be attempted by just two players, each with a main character and three heroes, totalling up to the maximum of eight characters.

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

eh it was never a matter of how many I need, I just think a party of 8 skilled humans will always be better then henchies, even if they are set up as you like them.

TiNkLeR

TiNkLeR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

IT will be SO dificult! Many missions, Many traps, Many puzzles. It will be hard. 2weeks of FULL HARDCORE, and its completed, good luck finding group. it will be hard 2.

The truth itself

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

First Degree

Mo/

Trust me, even if they double the difficulty of factions. It will still be easy.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by The truth itself
Trust me, even if they double the difficulty of factions. It will still be easy for experienced players.
Fixed.

Domino

Domino

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Houston

A/Rt

No assassins or ritualists needed I see.

How typical... let the discrimination begin!

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linkusmax
we will be starting with brand new characters, not tyrian/canthan
assassins/rits are canthan

frickett

frickett

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Shinigami Keys [SHIN]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by The truth itself
Trust me, even if they double the difficulty of factions. It will still be easy.
I guess that is targeted toward PVE content.

Ok.

To the OP.
I plan on starting a PVE elementalist when Nightfall comes out, and I would join you in the number 4 spot. However, I don't have big chunks of time to devote to it. I really am just a casual player. But I hope you find a good group to work with.

Duly Thankful

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Is it a race? Why rush it when you can take your time and enjoy yourself? Personally I try and keep my competetiveness for RL (where it pays off) and simply play games for fun.

Oh well, I suppose it takes all sorts.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

I'm probably going to have to take my time, unfortunately I will be away at college...i probably wont be able to finish the game on one character until winter break.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linkusmax
eh it was never a matter of how many I need, I just think a party of 8 skilled humans will always be better then henchies, even if they are set up as you like them.
Henchies are ALWAYS better than Humans in their AI...They follow targets, They are master interupters, The ward using one actually sets them in the backline, etc etc.

Only problem is their skill sets, and weird rezzing habits. Apart from weird Glitching with paths.

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linkusmax
Im intending to organise a group to go through Nightfall as quickly as possible. Maybe without sleep depending on how long it takes us (i.e. after 2 full days we will probably need a break). Anyway I figured I should look for interest and start organising it.

I am lo0oking for at least a certain level of ability in the people coming, so say any qualifications. (god that sounds pompous and arrogant)

This is the party I intend to take. (we will be starting with brand new characters, not tyrian/canthan)

1. Warrior
2. Dervish
3. Ranger
4. Elementalist
5. Necro Minion Master
6. Paragon -Linkusmax
7. Monk
8. Monk

Say what you would be interested in playing.
You would probably have more success if you wait until Nightfall comes out, since we know so little right now. For example, you are looking for a party of 8, with professions laid out, but you can pretty much assume the starter area is going to have a smaller party size. In which case, you have to break up and arrange to meet up at some point in the storyline, which nobody knows anything about yet.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Both Prophecies and Factions start with groups smaller than 8. How will you handle that if they follow the same outline in Nightfall?

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

I am assuming it will follow similar lines to the other games and roups will be even in numbers, presumably it will be similar to factions starting at 4 then jumping up to 8.

so
Group1: Warrior, Ele, Necro, Monk
Group2: Dervish, Ranger, Paragon, Monk

Organisational problems will be handled over vent, (i.e. when to meet, how to solve difficult puzzles if we are still split.)

If all else fails I will have to find just one or two otheers and take henchies.

As I stated before, while henchies may be superior to many players, when compared to an experianced group of players wth proper organisation they are very mediocre. Experianced is the key poin there. Good players will always do it faster and better then henchies.

I know this from when I was in one of the first 20 or so people to finish the game. Players were much better in the late areas of the game then because they had to be good to have proceeded so far so fast. As time went on the pugs I ended up with on consective characters have degraded in quality on average quite drastically. I enjoyed going through the game quickly, doing my best to beat it. (Not to mention profiting heavily from the sale of an end game green 100k +50 ecto for shiros blades is more then I would of made from farming for the same duration.)

I don't do it out of competitiveness. I just enjoy pushing myself to see how well I can do somthing. In my opinion Guild Wars PvE is more fun when its more fast paced.

Besides I will be on break from Uni, so plenty of spare time.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

If you replace the ranger with a mesmer then I'll join...

*sigh* I'll just stand over here if you ever change your mind^^.

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

This might be interesting, I'll keep watch on this if this gets organized I can fill any one of the positions you may need.
This also depends on the release date. If its during a school week I couldn't stay up 2 days straight while going to school and playing GW.

And about henchies. Henchmen may be superior to some pugs. Compared to any decent player henchmen are terrible. Sure they may be fast but they have AI not a brain. They don't know what to do when put in a situation that is not in their program. Henchmen will never be as good as a decent human. The same way that robots will never be as good as a human. (sure they can do one thing fast but if they encounter something that was not expected they will not be able to think) Okay end rant : D. Enough about henchies being the best because they certainly are not!

castanaveras

castanaveras

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Why wont' you take Mesmer?? we get no love >.>

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

you really think having such a 'typically balanced' team is really that essential? A healer is nice, and we all know that MMs are useful for 90% of the game... sure warriors are good tanks- but so are dervishes. Likewise, a mesmer could EASILY replace any of those. Two monks? Maybe once you get halfway through the game...

personally, If I were to do this, Id take one monk and seven anythings (which would probably be like 4 dervishes, 2 paragons, and a mesmer/ranger/necro/ele)

i bet you a team of all dervishes and paragons would have a higher survival rate... especially considering many of us experienced players already have our core class characters.

Id like to say id race you to the finish, but Ill probably get my paragon to level 20 and spend the next 6 months in RA (not literally, but you get the idea)

Although, I will try to message you if i can remember to-> with a focused group, I might be able to stay focused myself!

And... I do plan on finally making a Ranger primary with my 3rd extra slot... so maybe it wont be TOO hard to get experienced people who want to make a core class for the first time... only time will tell.


Considering everyone and their mothers will be playing dervish, why not just make an 8 man power-derv team?

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Its not that I wont take mesmers, Its just that I added the first things which came to mind, Im sure the ranger could be replaced with a mesmer if nessercary, and I wanted at least One of each new profession and 2 monks. so thats half the team already.

I selected the other classes above due to their versatility (Or in the case of the MM and warrior their sheer effectiveness.)

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by castanaveras
Why wont' you take Mesmer?? we get no love >.>
Yeah, my first and most complete character is my mesmer.

In GW1 we were looked at as useless

In GW2 we were looked at with wonder

In GW3 we might be the most important thing a group has


OUR time of ascension is almost here (although the noobs who dont know how to play mesmer still wont invite us... poor clueless non-mesmers ftL lol)

No dervish has anything on my mesmer. (on pvp weekend at least)

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
you really think having such a 'typically balanced' team is really that essential? A healer is nice, and we all know that MMs are useful for 90% of the game... sure warriors are good tanks- but so are dervishes. Likewise, a mesmer could EASILY replace any of those. Two monks? Maybe once you get halfway through the game...

personally, If I were to do this, Id take one monk and seven anythings (which would probably be like 4 dervishes, 2 paragons, and a mesmer/ranger/necro/ele)

i bet you a team of all dervishes and paragons would have a higher survival rate... especially considering many of us experienced players already have our core class characters.

Id like to say id race you to the finish, but Ill probably get my paragon to level 20 and spend the next 6 months in RA (not literally, but you get the idea)

Although, I will try to message you if i can remember to-> with a focused group, I might be able to stay focused myself!

And... I do plan on finally making a Ranger primary with my 3rd extra slot... so maybe it wont be TOO hard to get experienced people who want to make a core class for the first time... only time will tell.


Considering everyone and their mothers will be playing dervish, why not just make an 8 man power-derv team?
Thats not the point, I need a group that can proceed through the whole game, and therefore asx always eventually you will need at least 2 monks. This build is flexible, more of a guide really. The warrior could easily be switched fr a dervish, and the ranger/ele/necro for a mesmer or eeven a second offensive paragon.

Indeed no matter what class you wish to play if you are interested put forward the fact.

Dien

Dien

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

the great finnish republic

R/Me

Hmm... here is my party Mhenlo,Lina,Stefan,Little thom,Orion,Aidan,Eve and mee it woked in factions why would it work here. no matter how hard the missions would be im sure this party can hadle them all ;o

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linkusmax
Thats not the point, I need a group that can proceed through the whole game, and therefore asx always eventually you will need at least 2 monks. This build is flexible, more of a guide really. The warrior could easily be switched fr a dervish, and the ranger/ele/necro for a mesmer or eeven a second offensive paragon.

Indeed no matter what class you wish to play if you are interested put forward the fact.
ok
Like I said, endgame stuff does usually work best with two healers- so I do agree with you. (EDIT- I think originally I forgot to include my opinion that dervishes and paragons are good at self-healing, hope that clears up my somewhat vague post )

I just know some people really really only ever allow certain builds/classes into their groups... I was only asking because I do have interest.

Just trying to make the point that most of us who have been playing for a while, if making a new character, will 66% be one of the new classes.

Its SO long away-> but yeah planning is 90% of the win, so I hope I didnt come off as negative in my post.

sigried

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Honduras

Ye Old

W/Mo

firts of all you will not get to make 8 people parties from start so consider forming 2 parties and joining up again

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by sigried
firts of all you will not get to make 8 people parties from start so consider forming 2 parties and joining up again
Maybe you should actually read the whole thread? What is with people today!

I already said that.

tuf pepper

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

huh... this sounds kinnda fun I am willing to join your party but I will not be making a new char my monk always comes first so I will be bring my tyia monk to Night Fall if your willing to take a lvl 20 monk with all tyia and canthan elites and reguler skills I am all your's you will just have to let me know when to meet you.

ps.. I dont use vent/ts if I want to hear some one complain about some thing they will have to type it out for the simple reason of its wasting your time by typing it for wasting my time for reading it.. and also for the main reason I like to read what others say so it gives me time to think of the Q or what ever it was in vent/ts it feels like I have to respond right then and their.

EagleEye33

EagleEye33

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In a House...duh

Untouchable Heroes

R/E

LOL this is exactly why people get bored of GW so fast. I'll say this, if any of you who rush through the game and then say there bored later on, i'll just link this thread to yours and say this....you brought this on yourself.

If this is your attempt to capitilize on the "market of GW" thats a waste, because you don't need to rush and ruin the game to make money.

I didnt rush through either chapter, I didn't really go slow either. But I still made tons of money.

Ah well, I would at least be surprised if you do it in 2 days. I'm placing my bets with some friends :P

tuf pepper

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Well I rushed though factions and I did not capitilize on any of the end game greens like so many did. The only reason why I dont mind rushing though a game is so when ever a friend needs a monk I can be their for them. But all my other chars I take my time on.

And also I still have not gotten bored of GW due to the fact I have 6 soon to be 8-9 chars to play with. I do all quest and evry mission then I go around getting elites and other skills and learn new builds and make my own builds. I dont think I'll ever get bored since my main goal is to get evry char all skills/elites of evry profession and to get all/most of the max titles. And A-Net is making that job even longer with new chapters every 6 months lol.

To the ppl that say they are bored of the game is mostly becouse they beat the game but have not unlocked evry skill and all chars with evry skill in evry profession and got evry title to the max. So in all they havnt beaten the game just the story part of it..

but I do agree with you two days is a short amont of time I just wanna see if I for one can do it and if hes looking for some one to help I am willing to help

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

If you ever meet a player than can interupt 1/4 second casts consistantly please tell me.

Good god tuf pepper does your school offer a keyboarding class?

Amok Affinity

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

[XoO]

E/

cool, "heroes", now i can log in to a multiplayer game to experience content alone.

sometimes, GW just seems backward.

anyhow, if this all pans out im up for rolling out a fresh new Nightfall ele for the cause. heh.
edit: oh, yeh, got ts/vent. kinda pointless without being able to communicate efficiently.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Count me in as the Ranger...

Aim: NevinJF
MSN: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]

I have TS and Vent, and lots of time to be able to play. If you can get this organized, I'll be interested.

Reiden Argrock

Reiden Argrock

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Arizona

Shadowstorm Mercenaries

Quote:
Originally Posted by Domino
No assassins or ritualists needed I see.

How typical... let the discrimination begin!
he said new characters.. and sin and rit are not core class's!! so you won't be able to make NEW sins or rits in nightfall... That is why they are not included in the list

Kern Wolf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

NJ

W/E

To the OP:

Wishing you luck on this; promise to post pics along the way if you can. Is your group looking to just finish, or will you be purchasing armor/weapons/etc. along the way? I think it would be pretty cool if we could all get a look at the things you encounter along the way, if you have time to post such things...

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Good looks like I am starting to get a few people interested.

For your information we will be using my vent channels. I personally will be intending to purchase 15k armour if the oppurtunity comes up during the play. I have Fraps and will be taking footage of interesting things (including the final mission) and will post screenshots up every two hours.

About boredom, I don't play alot of PvE these days anyway, being obssessed with GvG and having finished factions with all 5 chars I have.

KurtTheBehemoth

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

tubbyville

Kurt's Royal Guardians

Mo/E

I will be getting the presale package and get into the game in the 24 hr preview. I did this same thing in Factions and let me say I am a machine.

Resume:

1600hrs in 8 months

lvl 20 heal, prot, bond, 55, echo 55,
concentration 55, or regular 55monk

lvl 20 runner or tank warrior

lvl 20 poison, interrupt, bp, or trap ranger

lvl 20 mm, blood, or SS necro

lvl 20 wind, water, earth, or fire elementalist

lvl 20 illusion, or domination mesmer

I have 1000k to buy plenty or armor and runes as i go in Nightfall.

Most importantly i am a 25 y/o Night security guard.

I am your perfect choice for versatility and motivation. I will just leave one of my officers in charge of the guild while im gone.

If you are interested my IGN's are

Kurt The Quick
Kurt The Friend
Kurt The Somber
Kurt The Behemoth
Kurt The Temporary
Kurt The Heat Death
Kurt The Leader
Kurt The Lazy
Kurt The Omniscient
Kurt The Clever
etc.....

the top six are the ones im always on. the other 12 are my mules. I know what you are thinking. I play too much.

My preference character choice is monk. I play the health bars like a piano. It's a symphony of heals.

EtherealByte

EtherealByte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

| | R E A P E R S | |

R/Rt

Well, if you need a ranger. I volunteer. I will have university but i think i'll still be able to play 3-5 hours a day. Need to beat it as quikly as possible :P
I could play as something else, but i'd prefer a ranger since as of now i'm planning ranger to be char no. 1 i run through the storyline with. In case you do not need another ranger i can volunteer as a paragon (second choice).

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

no no, OP leader dude is looking for a rush party, we're talking 20+ hours non stop...

Looking at it that way, I'm incapable of even staying up that long, as soon as my eyes close for longer than 10 seconds, im asleep^^.

Oh well, it'll be exciting seeing the pics being posted^^ good luck!

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

OP updated with interested parties, still looking for more!

KurtTheBehemoth

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

tubbyville

Kurt's Royal Guardians

Mo/E

Hey OP,

I noticed that you put "interested" next to my name. Dude just count me in. I am the best monk in GW. Not kidding, you would laugh if you saw the regular noobish bp groups that I single handedly get thru ToPK. PvE healing is my art. I heal so fast that sometimes I don't even notice my own movements. I have "lightning reflexes". If you doubt me, just message me IG and come on a ToPK run with me. Or we could do Thunderhead keep. I monk that for guildies all the time.


PS. Plus, you don't have to worry about me being available because I will be taking vacation for the weekend of the 28th. Lol, taking vacation just to play a video game defines me as a total nerd.