Atra's Lonely Ssyn Farm...

MelechRic

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IMPORTANT
I've added a GuildWiki build page for this build: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/N/Mo_Boss_Farmer
The wiki page details how to make the build and also gives a list of bosses known to be farmable with this build.
For specific instructions on how to kill each boss please continue reading through this Guru thread.



Well I was neglecting my poor necro, Atra Lucia, because I was on my monk so much farming Shiro'ken. So I decided to see what PS/SB could do for Atra.

The Bad News:

You can't solo Shiro.

The Good News:

Ssyn Coiled Grasp can be farmed much more easily on a PS/SB Necro than a 55hp iNecro. Of course it all comes down to Blood and Protection.

Here's what you'll need:

1. +5e/20% longer enchant weapon. I prefer using Rajazan's Fervor because it's nice looking, but a Totem Axe will get the job done.
2. 20/20 Offhand for Blood or Prot. Honestly it doesn't matter. You just want the extra energy. I have a blood offhand that I use even though the build doesn't use any blood spells. If you have a 20/20 prot offhand then by all means use it. It won't matter though, because both Prot spells are 1/4 cast and reasonablly fast recharge. Still, I'd go prot if you're new to farming.
3. 15AL chest, arms, pants and shoes from Shing Jae.
4. 60AL head scar with Superior Blood Rune and intrinsic +1 to Blood Magic.


The build (no elite!)

Spirit Bond
Protective Spirit
Touch of Agony
Wallow's Bite
Vampiric Bite / Vampiric Touch (can leave open if you want)
Plauge Touch
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit

Attributes:
16 (12 + 1 + 3) Blood
12 Protection



The Farm:

1. Leave from Jade Flats to the Archipelagos.
2. Pre-cast Essence Bond and Balthazar's Spirit
3. Get a blessing from the Priest at the shrine. (optional)
4. As you run up the stairs to the first mob (2 Kappas and a Naga Rit) cast PS/SB.
5. Run through to the next group which are typically 2 Naga warriors, a Naga archer and a Naga Rit.
6. Run through this group as well and head over the bridge. Be careful to renew PS/SB as needed.
7. Past the bridge you should see Ssyn. Run to Ssyn while renewing PS/SB.
8. As you aggro the other Naga in Ssyn's mob make sure to get right next to Ssyn. Keep renweing PS/SB.
9. Now... start your touching. You will get your touches interrupted a lot. This is normal and expected. In fact it's desirable. The Naga Warriors will use their energy to interrupt your touch skills which recharge pretty quickly. After you see a touch interrupted refresh either PS/SB. Always follow an interrupted touch skill with a refresh of PS/SB. I refresh PS/SB earlier than needed because I don't want to be at the end of either and have my refresh interrupted. Energy is not an issue. You are holding aggro of at least 8-12 Nagas plus Ssyn.
9. Keep touching/refreshing until Ssyn is dead.
10. Claim loot if any.

NOTE: If you get Dazed by Concussion Shot (which hasn't happened to me yet) then Plague Touch it onto Ssyn and keep going.



This farming method is likely to trigger anti-farming code because you are only killing one foe near a map transition. Do not post here asking me why you never got the drop when you farmed Ssyn 150+ times. Farm Ssyn 10 times and move on to something else if you don't get the drop. Rotate your crops people!

Regards,

MelechRic

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seems effective.....u should post a picture of u getting the green, or make a video. but if u make a video, please dont put it on file front, cause for me, filefront hardly ever works

Mistermagoo

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Nice build, I've tried it like 3 or 4 times, and I'm wondering what weapon does he drop?

EDIT: What does his staff sell for? I just got one ^_^

MelechRic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ima Hob0
seems effective.....u should post a picture of u getting the green, or make a video. but if u make a video, please dont put it on file front, cause for me, filefront hardly ever works Yeah, I may do that. The best I could do is post his death and him dropping something. I've probably hit some anti-farming code since I've been farming Shiro'ken like a fiend. I need to go be a good Samaritan and help some people through the Shiro mission in Factions. That will reset the code.

If I make a video it will be on YouTube. Sadly, I'm not too good with videos. I have Fraps, but I don't have all the cool apps to edit and overlay a soundtrack.

MelechRic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistermagoo
Nice build, I've tried it like 3 or 4 times, and I'm wondering what weapon does he drop? He drops a staff that quite a few Ritualists seem to want. I've been able to sell them pretty quickly when I get them.

whobitz

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He drops *surprise surprise* Ssyn's Staff. Too many greens....But here's a link if you wanna check the stats:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Ssyn%27s_Staff

Nice build, I'll have to try it out sometime.

Mistermagoo

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Do you know of anything else I could farm this with???


Perhaps Chkkr Thousand tail? I could see that working :-D
That's a negative on Chkkr -_-

MelechRic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistermagoo
Do you know of anything else I could farm this with??? My guess would be any boss that doesn't:

Strip/shatter enchants or have an enchant stripping mob.
Heal like mad.

but does have:

A mob that does a lot of physical damage since you need energy for your touch skills.

You'll have to venture out and see what's out there. I'm going to run around with this build a bit myself and see if there are any other bosses that fall into the above category.

Naturally, bosses that have Outcasts/Carp in their mob will be un-soloable. I'm wondering if Jayne might be doable. The problem would be mesmer wardens that shatter enchants. You'd probably need to bring a cover enchant like Reversal of Fortune.

I'll report back as I find new information. The build is definitely like a "heat-seeking missle" in that it goes straight for its target and destroys it.

MelechRic

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After killing Sessk I proceeded to kill the rest of the Naga. Rangers, then Ritualists, and finally the Warriors.

I will admit the last Warrior was slow because I had to be careful with my energy.

EDIT: As a bonus if you can touch off the disease from Rotting Flesh you will start to degen the warriors.

Arkantos

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Now I wanna get my necro in Cantha GG on the build btw

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I'm unsure if he drops a green, but he is soloable. He's very slow because he uses Aura of Restoration and spams a lot of air spells.

EDIT: No green drop. Don't bother unless ANet adds something in a patch.

MelechRic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Now I wanna get my necro in Cantha GG on the build btw Thanks!

As for getting to Cantha... you'd better hurry. I'm beginning to think that PS/SB thing is too good to last.

I'll post more finds as I make them. Hopefully others will contribute to this thread as well.

TheMadKingGeorge

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i have a necro and a monk yet i forgot about my necro because ive been using the visage build alot i think im going to try this ??? anyone know how much they go for ?

Mistermagoo

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Add "Orosen, Tranquil Acolyte" to the list of easy to kill targets he heals himself a lot, but your doing more damage than he can heal. He's outside of Senji's corner across the bridge, usually his group is about 5 - 6 Jade brotherhood knights, and He spams Soothing Memories.

Edit: Sometimes his little mob has quite a few mesmers, and their damage is too low to trigger SB, so if you encounter more than 2 mesmers, I would just rezone.

Arkantos

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Do you think its possible for a Mo/N to do this? 15 prot, 12 blood and rest into DF. I'm working on my monk tonight, gonna try to beat factions with him so I guess I could make some stops if it works

MelechRic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Do you think its possible for a Mo/N to do this? 15 prot, 12 blood and rest into DF. I'm working on my monk tonight, gonna try to beat factions with him so I guess I could make some stops if it works It might be. The key is finding targets that can't outheal your damage. Ssyn has no healing to speak so he's easy. Sessk has healing from Parasitic Bond, but I think you're going to be okay there. Sassr was slow because he could nearly restore his health as fast as I could damage him. (Eventually I noticed I was winning.)

I'd try it and see. I orignally leveled my Monk as a Mo/N so I might just try it too.

MelechRic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistermagoo
I've been hunting around, a lot of mobs have enchant removal -____- Maybe try out Strongroots Shelter?? I'll see if I can pull it off. Strongroot would be a total coup. I don't think he's possible because of the necros around him (blood drinkers) but give it a whirl.

I'm hoping that the build get's tested in a lot of different areas. I'm thinking about going after Wind Three Blade and maybe Ghail.

I've also got a hunch that Xuekao is soloable with this build. As would Arrahhs Mountainclub.

I think that all the bosses in Mount Qinkai may be soloable too. (The monk boss may not because he's got decent healing.) There's a lot of melee damage there without much worry of enchant strip/removal.

Since I'm Luxon I'm not super familiar with Echovald Forest. I'd hazard a guess that there may be a few spots there where it's worth trying this build.

MelechRic

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Just killed Foalcrest Darkwish. I'd rate it as a medium farm because you need to be careful with your energy. His mob is small and being too agressive with Vampiric Touch can get you into trouble. You also have to navigate past another warden mob. If you aggro them and get crippled by traps you're going to have it tough.

MelechRic

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Well, Jayne is out... too much enchantment removal in his mob. Also, the Kirin with their Barbs spam destroys this build. That low damage just isn't enough to trigger SB, but it's enough to whittle you down to zero health.

Wardens are very tough. With the healing from Ritualist Wardens and enchantment removal from the mesmer ones, you have some serious problems.

EDIT:

Found out that it won't work for Wing Three Blade and probably not for any other Jade bosses. The problem is the Jade Elementalists with Conjure Flame. It's the same type of damage as Barbs... tiny and not enough to trigger SB. So it's death by a thousand paper cuts.

MelechRic

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Just killed Bahnba Shockfoot. Slow farm because the stupid Yeti with him are slow firing Rangers and Ritualists. Energy management all the way or you will die.

DOCB22

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Do you think its possible for a Mo/N to do this? 15 prot, 12 blood and rest into DF. I'm working on my monk tonight, gonna try to beat factions with him so I guess I could make some stops if it works yes it works just fine

A Leprechaun

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sorry i am a noob when it comes to farming with anything other than warriors so please humor me
Q.if you have prot spirit on AND spirit bond wont PS stop Sb from working due to the reduced dmg?

~A Leprechaun~

Arkantos

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Quote:
Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
sorry i am a noob when it comes to farming with anything other than warriors so please humor me
Q.if you have prot spirit on AND spirit bond wont PS stop Sb from working due to the reduced dmg?

~A Leprechaun~ I don't know how it works, but no. PS activates SB healing if you get hit for 10% of your health (I think)

king_robin

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But since you sacifice HP why wont you take with you Dark Aura?

Melkorium

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Quote:
Originally Posted by king_robin
But since you sacifice HP why wont you take with you Dark Aura? I imagine this might start killing the meleer's around you and then you could run into energy probs.

Btw, this works well with IW mesmer as well, same principle but only 1 skill taken up with offense. Might not be as fast mind you.

MelechRic

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AND



Chehbaba presented some concern as my hp was bouncing up and down a lot. I laid off the Touch of Agony and Wallow's Bite and just Vamped him to death. Very easy overall. Plague Touch is your friend here since you will get crippled and poisoned by all the traps.

Tomtom was very easy. There are two mobs and your energy/hp is always near max. I was still leary after Chehbaba so I Vamped at first, then added in one sacrificing touch. No real problems.

Hukhrah was unkillable. Between his own healing touch and the ritualists healing he was never below 60% health. I think a Mo/N would be more suitable here. I'd spec high in prot and smiting. Then I'd throw on the smiting touches and Scourge Healing. I think he'll drop to that, but it's just speculation at the moment. Necro secondary just for Plague Touching off those annoying trap conditions.

Melkorium

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Just used my IW variant to take out Swiftscale and Scalewand (Check Wiki), but..um..not Snapjaw

MelechRic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by king_robin
But since you sacifice HP why wont you take with you Dark Aura? Well, I hadn't thought about taking it. That's the straight answer. Also, it's a one second cast and when I was developing the build for Ssyn I wanted fast skills. Getting dazed from Concussion Shot was a real problem. If you look up Concussion Shot on GuildWiki you'll see that it only dazes if you were using a spell. SB/PS are 1/4 casts so your exposure to being dazed is very small.

As a test you could add Dark Aura in and see how it goes. Just realize, as was noted above, that killing off the melee that's feeding you energy is a bad thing.

MelechRic

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Sadly, I had to put an elite on the bar. I just couldn't out damage his Healing Signet. With Spoil Victor on the bar Arrahhsh just can't out heal all the damage he does to himself.

Note: I put two vamps on the bar as well. The damn pet tigers and cranes don't do enough damage to trigger Spirit Bond. They will have your hp down to zero in no time flat so the vamp skills are necessary to replenish what Spirit Bond misses. Also, be sure to aggro Arrahhsh's mob and the mob that you pass on the bridge. You need the aggro to keep your energy up.

MelechRic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melkorium
Just used my IW variant to take out Swiftscale and Scalewand (Check Wiki), but..um..not Snapjaw Confirmed your kill of Swiftscale. I'd say it's medium for me. I used the same build that I used to kill Arrahhsh. Seemed to go a bit slow because the Naga archers just don't attack as fast as the warriors do.



I also killed Sessk again on the way to Swiftscale. Sessk was much easier using just the two vamp touches. I will probably retry Ssyn with this setup and see if it's easier too. I never used Spoil on Sessk because he's a necro and doesn't seem to attack very often.

MelechRic

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Just killed Miella Lightwing... I have to say it was a very dicey kill and I'm not sure I could repeat it regularly. I had to aggro a lot of Saltspray Dragons to keep my energy up.

UPDATE!:

After a few failures I've gotten better at killing her.

Method:
1. Remove the chest piece. This allows wand damage from the dragons to trigger SB.
2. Grab aggro from at least 2 Saltsprays + the aggro from Miella's mob.
3. It's likely you'll be body blocked so get to Miella right away.
4. Prepare for constant knockdowns from Gale spaming !@#%^&!* Rockhide Dragons! This means you should do the following: Refresh SB, Vamp Touch, Refresh PS, Vamp Bite... and repeat the entire time until Miella Drops.



NOTE: even though I have Soul Leech on the bar it's not used. Spoil Victor would be a better choice, but you don't need it at all. If you want a non elite substitute then take Unholy Feast for the insta-100% hp healing.

Elwynn Swiftwind

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Very nice.
Gonna try to farm all the bosses now :P
thnx for build

Arkantos

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Can anyone confirm that Mo/N can solo like this? I'm tight on skill points and dont feel like wasting some on skills I'll never use..

MelechRic

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Can anyone confirm that Mo/N can solo like this? I'm tight on skill points and dont feel like wasting some on skills I'll never use.. Well, I believe someone in the thread had a monk and said this worked. However, if I were low on skill points and had a monk I'd do one thing:

Get to Harvest Temple ASAP! Go mesmer secondary and grab Sympathetic Visage, Ancestors Visage and Mantra of Resolve. Then go do the Shiro'ken farming using the 175% XP scroll. You'll be getting tons of skillpoints that way.

My monk went from having about 300k xp to having over a million in just a day and a half of farming there.

Just my $0.02

Elwynn Swiftwind

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Can anyone confirm that Mo/N can solo like this? I'm tight on skill points and dont feel like wasting some on skills I'll never use.. Confirmed.

Arkantos

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Gotta beat Sunjiang then I get to test this build out Think it would work against Geoffer and Sskai?

Oh yeah, thanks for the confirmation

king_robin

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Ohh this sounds like a Touch Ranger, but with a Necro!

Arkantos

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Sessk is annoying. Sometimes I can kill him, sometimes I can't