Hey guys, I was thinking, why not introduce a title which shows how good you are for your guild members, or how good they are for eachother.
For instance, you help a guild member complete a mission, this earns u 1 point.
After 25 points u get the first title, Friendly officer(or leader)
And for guild members after 25 points: loyal member
This can go on untill you reach the maximum title: like: legendary guild leader, officer, or heroic members. PS: for the maximum title u would need LOTS of points, because every noob will want to have this title too, making it still cool to have the maximum title on this 1.
The whole concept of this title improves sharing the guild wars experience, meaning: new players don't feel like those guild officers are just sitting there all day ignoring you, guild officers\leaders with these titles can show it while recruiting to let them know they are willing to help, making recruiting more involved with this title, meaning, if you do not have this title, you better earn it fast, if you want new members.
Total effect, guilds start helping their members more, making guilds more then just a big group of people where u have a few friends out of 50 players..
I think this would be a great idea, since guild wars would get a more positive atmosphere.
++Title which can change guild wars++
silvershock
shadowfell
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Originally Posted by silvershock
PS: for the maximum title u would need LOTS of points, because every noob will want to have this title too, making it still cool to have the maximum title on this 1.
The whole concept of this title improves sharing the guild wars experience, meaning: new players don't feel like those guild officers are just sitting there all day ignoring you, guild officers\leaders with these titles can show it while recruiting to let them know they are willing to help, making recruiting more involved with this title, meaning, if you do not have this title, you better earn it fast, if you want new members. Total effect, guilds start helping their members more, making guilds more then just a big group of people where u have a few friends out of 50 players.. I think this would be a great idea, since guild wars would get a more positive atmosphere. |
Oh boy, a popularity contest within a guild as well? Not a good idea. I'm particularly convinced of my opinion after you said this:
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Originally Posted by silvershock
I think this would be a great idea, since guild wars would get a more positive atmosphere.
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You had already self-defeated your suggestion with this:
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Originally Posted by silvershock
...because every noob will want to have this title too ....
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/Notsigned
silvershock
Noob is a common gamer word, originally: newbie, meaning, new guy/girl, or amateur.
It's not ment as an insult, although plenty of people do use it that way.
When i said i was afraid all noobs would want this title too, I was afraid of this:
"Hey guild leader i need help with thunderhead keep" "What is a thunderhead keep?"
The point in having this title on a max or pretty high rank is to show people your experienced enough to offer help.
You mentioned popularity contests in the guild, what's so bad about that when everybody gets what they want when they ask for help, besides, the whole point of the title system is to let other people show what you have done, if you are mad about popularity contests, go send threat mails to anet, they are the 1s who invented the title system for guild wars, im just making a suggestion to use this feature as a way to get guilds to help their members more.
God I love people who think they got it all figured out, but actually don't get it. ^^
Anywayz, I do thank you for posting this, now other people who wanted to use this as argument know my idea isn't ment that way.
It's not ment as an insult, although plenty of people do use it that way.
When i said i was afraid all noobs would want this title too, I was afraid of this:
"Hey guild leader i need help with thunderhead keep" "What is a thunderhead keep?"
The point in having this title on a max or pretty high rank is to show people your experienced enough to offer help.
You mentioned popularity contests in the guild, what's so bad about that when everybody gets what they want when they ask for help, besides, the whole point of the title system is to let other people show what you have done, if you are mad about popularity contests, go send threat mails to anet, they are the 1s who invented the title system for guild wars, im just making a suggestion to use this feature as a way to get guilds to help their members more.
God I love people who think they got it all figured out, but actually don't get it. ^^
Anywayz, I do thank you for posting this, now other people who wanted to use this as argument know my idea isn't ment that way.
Kaguya
So only way to get these points is to help others do the missions?
What if they prefer to do the missions with henchies? What if you are in a smaller guild where peeps have already completed the missions, so just do AvA/farming/whatever together? What if a group of 4 guildies run some of the quick first missions together? Or a group of 8 guildies doing Imperial Sanctum over and over again, they'd have 50 points in a hour?
Zzzz...
What if they prefer to do the missions with henchies? What if you are in a smaller guild where peeps have already completed the missions, so just do AvA/farming/whatever together? What if a group of 4 guildies run some of the quick first missions together? Or a group of 8 guildies doing Imperial Sanctum over and over again, they'd have 50 points in a hour?
Zzzz...
silvershock
Let me explain: The points earned for this title can only be earned by doing quests, missions and pvp with guild/alliance members. You earn a point when a mission, quest or battle is completed/won.
You cannot help some1 with the same quest/mission more then twice in 1 hour, and for pvp, u cannot earn more then 5 points in 1 hour, making sure people don't exploit this feature and go pvping for ages to get the title to max.
Offcourse this doesnt mean if you fail twice and try again u cannot earn points, since you earn point when the quest, mission or battle is completed/won.
U said what if people already have completed all missions?
Quests. millions of em, and if you have a small guild where people do AvsA all the time, you earn point by helping them.
You cannot help some1 with the same quest/mission more then twice in 1 hour, and for pvp, u cannot earn more then 5 points in 1 hour, making sure people don't exploit this feature and go pvping for ages to get the title to max.
Offcourse this doesnt mean if you fail twice and try again u cannot earn points, since you earn point when the quest, mission or battle is completed/won.
U said what if people already have completed all missions?
Quests. millions of em, and if you have a small guild where people do AvsA all the time, you earn point by helping them.
Mr. G
hmmmm....no
In my guild we already have a system to show whos always there to help - There called officers...
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In my guild we already have a system to show whos always there to help - There called officers...
/not signed
Kaguya
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Let me explain: The points earned for this title can only be earned by doing quests, missions and pvp with guild/alliance members. You earn a point when a mission, quest or battle is completed/won.
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Of course you could make the tiers start at 1000 points or something so it requires grind, but "how helpful someone is", this title doesn't tell.
Scavenger Rage
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Knightsaber Sith
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Kakumei
The pluses in the title alert you to the fact that this is a quality idea.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by silvershock
Noob is a common gamer word, originally: newbie, meaning, new guy/girl, or amateur.
It's not ment as an insult, although plenty of people do use it that way.. |
Newb = A new person
Anyways, /notsigned.
mrgoat
Here's your fundamental problem: You're trying to quantify kindness and then get people to compete over who's the most kind.
Tyggen
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stefan_moore
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lyra_song
The goodness of someone's heart should be measured in their actions.
Not their words. Not their titles.
Not their words. Not their titles.
Dougal Kronik
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Just help others - you don't need any kind of Titles or badge for helping out other members of your guild!
Just help others - you don't need any kind of Titles or badge for helping out other members of your guild!
UBS
Guild are supposed to help each other.. This just adds favouritism into a guild and is totally un-needed.
/notsigned
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silvershock
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Noob = Insult
Newb = A new person Anyways, /notsigned. |
Noob is a word used online by lots of people, its a word from an unwritten dictionary, if you want to tell me I did something wrong, spelled something wrong or w/e, do so.
But for crying out loud, don't be so pathectic to start getting me on THAT thing, since the word itself isnt added to any dictionary, the true meaning can only be discovered by seeing how people use it, like i did, not to make up your OWN mind and tell people what it means.
owh and I've read your comments guys, i have to agree, it would be unfair.
Yet the global idea has potential, and that is what I offer arenanet, although I doubt if it will be implemented. Ah well, we try.
DeanBB
No, it is a common understanding that newb/newbie = a new player and noob/n00b = insulting someone, unless you refer to yourself that way perhaps. Google it if needed.
A guild and its members should know each other, know they can ask for help and receive it and not need titles, emotes, or any other such devices added to it.
Besides, couldn't 4 officers do Great Northern Wall over and over and just farm the title in a day?
A guild and its members should know each other, know they can ask for help and receive it and not need titles, emotes, or any other such devices added to it.
Besides, couldn't 4 officers do Great Northern Wall over and over and just farm the title in a day?
luauelveneno
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Originally Posted by silvershock
Noob is a common gamer word, originally: newbie, meaning, new guy/girl, or amateur.
It's not ment as an insult, although plenty of people do use it that way. |
oh yeah /notsigned
Chilly Ress
/notsigned
Well...actually....
/notsignednotsignednotsigned
Well...actually....
/notsignednotsignednotsigned
Malice Black
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for all the reasons stated already, GW does not need another lame title, all guildies should help each to the best of their abilities
officers should contribute the most as imo they should be experianced players that have completed the game and have a wide range of knowedge to help and encourage the new players
for all the reasons stated already, GW does not need another lame title, all guildies should help each to the best of their abilities
officers should contribute the most as imo they should be experianced players that have completed the game and have a wide range of knowedge to help and encourage the new players
xiaotsu
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
The goodness of someone's heart should be measured in their actions.
Not their words. Not their titles. |
So, uh.../notsigned for obvious reasons. If you want to be helpful, more power to ya, you'll earn respect by being helpful. Asking to be recognized for your helpfulness? Umm, yea, good-bye respect.
BrotherGilburt
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O.o?
Noob is a word used online by lots of people, its a word from an unwritten dictionary, if you want to tell me I did something wrong, spelled something wrong or w/e, do so. But for crying out loud, don't be so pathectic to start getting me on THAT thing, since the word itself isnt added to any dictionary, the true meaning can only be discovered by seeing how people use it, like i did, not to make up your OWN mind and tell people what it means. owh and I've read your comments guys, i have to agree, it would be unfair. Yet the global idea has potential, and that is what I offer arenanet, although I doubt if it will be implemented. Ah well, we try. |
noob is an insult
newbie someone whos new to the game
This won't work, and even if it does its not needed(How could you possibly tell whos helping who?). Also helping others is not soemthing you need to be rewarded for. You do it to be nice, not for a reward.
/notsigned
Brother Gilburt
silvershock
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Ctrl+alt+del owns btw, read it sometimes:P
Owh and thanks DeanBB for agreeing with me that guy just doesn't know what hes saying.
Btw, Brother gilburt, if you really are so wise, give me the link to a dictionary naming the difference between newb and noob, and I will admit you're right.
Till that day: You jump to conclusions, base your answers on facts, not oppinions, because some people do care about the truth.
bamm bamm bamm
You'll find neither words in a dictionary, so we'll use the closest thing. There seems to be a bit of confusion, but generally the seperate definition idea seems to win out. Not that any of this is on topic. As for the idea, too easily abused and needless extra complication.
silvershock
Im impressed, unlike brother gilburt who didn't know how to find it, you did.
Bamm bamm bamm, I bow for you.:P
Bamm bamm bamm, I bow for you.:P
luauelveneno
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Good to know you get your so called knowledge out of the ctrl+alt+delete comic. Now I don't take ANY of your posts serious any more:P
Ctrl+alt+del owns btw, read it sometimes:P |
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yaaay, lets do shiro over and over again, the easiest mission in the whole game yay I have a lame title maxed
Doofledust
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What will stop a guild officer/leader picking up new players in Pre, telling them they'll help with quests and missions, then dumping them once they've been through the Ascalon missions?
What will stop a guild officer/leader picking up new players in Pre, telling them they'll help with quests and missions, then dumping them once they've been through the Ascalon missions?
MrGuildBoi
/notsigned
This title can be 'farmed'.
1. Guild Member (GM) make a new character, rushes through Pre-searing.
2. You run GM through all missions in prophicies...
3. Repeat step 1.
4. Repeat step 2.
This title can be 'farmed'.
1. Guild Member (GM) make a new character, rushes through Pre-searing.
2. You run GM through all missions in prophicies...
3. Repeat step 1.
4. Repeat step 2.
Kai Nui
My mommy gives me a sticker every time I do something for her.
In other words, low levels have no problem doing missions since people will run them free through easy ones for points towards a title that shows their experienced since they're not experienced enough to get Protector or Cartography titles. Whee!
In other words, low levels have no problem doing missions since people will run them free through easy ones for points towards a title that shows their experienced since they're not experienced enough to get Protector or Cartography titles. Whee!
silvershock
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Originally Posted by luauelveneno
thats just sad from u not taking me serious cuz some comic i post. its just an example and well explained thats why i posted it. i feel sorry for you that you take conclusions out of 1 post about someone you even never met ingame or where ever.
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Good to know you get your so called knowledge out of the ctrl+alt+delete comic. Now I don't take ANY of your posts serious any more:P
Ctrl+alt+del owns btw, read it sometimes:P"
<----------( :P is an emote ment to show you're saying something in a funny way, making a joke, or something else, anywayz, IM KIDDING, ARE YOU ALWAYS SO NAïVE?)
I'm serious on this 1 though: I know 5 year old kids who would know I was joking..
PS: don't correct me on how I am supposed to use the ":P" emote, I already started a fuss over the newb/noob thing, im too tired to hear more of that stuff. :P god save me!!
luauelveneno
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Originally Posted by silvershock
"Originally Posted by silvershock
Good to know you get your so called knowledge out of the ctrl+alt+delete comic. Now I don't take ANY of your posts serious any more:P Ctrl+alt+del owns btw, read it sometimes:P" <----------( :P is an emote ment to show you're saying something in a funny way, making a joke, or something else, anywayz, IM KIDDING, ARE YOU ALWAYS SO NAïVE?) I'm serious on this 1 though: I know 5 year old kids who would know I was joking.. PS: don't correct me on how I am supposed to use the ":P" emote, I already started a fuss over the newb/noob thing, im too tired to hear more of that stuff. :P god save me!! |
arohk
runeseeker1
Lol i hate it when people want to make titles for "helping" people when all you want is the damn title...
We should stop suggesting these things. No one really cares for "helping" other people anyway. Seriously, you think someone will give you a million bucks just because you broke your back to help someone a million times? I'm fine with helping people and all, that's great, but we shouldn't exploit it like this. These suggestions can be too easily cheated.
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We should stop suggesting these things. No one really cares for "helping" other people anyway. Seriously, you think someone will give you a million bucks just because you broke your back to help someone a million times? I'm fine with helping people and all, that's great, but we shouldn't exploit it like this. These suggestions can be too easily cheated.
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silvershock
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Originally Posted by luauelveneno
it WAS a serious threath so i assumed u where serious also about it. and no iam not that naiv only sometimes when i feel like being so.
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Anywayz, cya ^^
bulletsmile
lot of warrior's running great northern wall over and over again?
tuperwho
While I'm the type of player who spends most of his time helping friends, guildies, etc., I gotta say I don't think this is a good idea. Yes, recognition would be nice, but I think this would be in the wrong spirit, and would not be that great for the game. I help others by providing company, advice, etc. However, it's sorta like the "teach them to fish" philosophy. In a setting where there were concrete (titles, points, etc.) rewards, I think it would turn into too much of a competition, and would become too much of a running contest, not the positive assistance it should be. Helping others loses it's effect when it's not out of genuine desire to just assist/help out.
Scutilla
How would this work? In other words, how would the game know you were doing something to help a guildmate out? Would the guildmate have to fill out some form or something? In that case, everyone in a guild would just give everyone else in the guild "helper points" for free to skyrocket everyone to the max rank.
If it's computer-determined, how does it determine it? Is it simply doing a mission, bonus, or quest that you've already done? There are plenty of reasons for doing that- skill capping, item farming, you need to claim a quest reward that's in the area, just because you enjoy it- without having to help someone else.
Finally, why guildmates only? Are good friends who just happen to already be in a different guild unworthy of being "helped"? Of course, if it applied to anyone, you'd get points just for joining PUGs...
QFT
If it's computer-determined, how does it determine it? Is it simply doing a mission, bonus, or quest that you've already done? There are plenty of reasons for doing that- skill capping, item farming, you need to claim a quest reward that's in the area, just because you enjoy it- without having to help someone else.
Finally, why guildmates only? Are good friends who just happen to already be in a different guild unworthy of being "helped"? Of course, if it applied to anyone, you'd get points just for joining PUGs...
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
The goodness of someone's heart should be measured in their actions.
Not their words. Not their titles. |