People need to listen
Addone_Abaddon
to what others have to say on the game, today I got really annoyed in HA at a person calling me a noob, I was in the party way before he joined, and once he'd joined, I'd announced that I, like many other players are having alot of lags, and while entering HA, the screen went blank, then sideways, then normal, but I couldn't move, he thought I was afk, then I said that I was here but lagging, he repetedly called me a noob and said that I shouldn't go afk, I was alive he was dead, and getting angry because I didn't res him, In said the rangers have used a spirit (I've forgotten the name) which prevents using res, again, he didn't listen, called me a noob again and told me not to go afk, so again, I typed that I'm lagging and the screen went sideways, he didn't answer, just called me a noob again.
This is just a small example of how alot of players don't listen, even to the most important things, I don't mind people accidently missing what I said, but not actually paying attention and making me repeat what I've written and still not paying attention and then insulting me because of something I couldn't control.
So like I said, when in combat, try and keep an eye on what people say and on the combat, if people repeat, and say that you didn't pay attention, apologise, after combat, scroll up and read the chat log, apologise for anything you done wrong, and before combat, don't take your eyes of chat log, you will miss something important.
Last of all, never insult people, especially before you know what's happened for sure, it would really help.
This is just a small example of how alot of players don't listen, even to the most important things, I don't mind people accidently missing what I said, but not actually paying attention and making me repeat what I've written and still not paying attention and then insulting me because of something I couldn't control.
So like I said, when in combat, try and keep an eye on what people say and on the combat, if people repeat, and say that you didn't pay attention, apologise, after combat, scroll up and read the chat log, apologise for anything you done wrong, and before combat, don't take your eyes of chat log, you will miss something important.
Last of all, never insult people, especially before you know what's happened for sure, it would really help.
Zinger314
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Originally Posted by Addone_Abaddon
Last of all, never insult people, especially before you know what's happened for sure, it would really help.
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Addone_Abaddon
no, it was mostly with guild mates, one person though (not in guild) didn't listen.
fallot
If you let people talk trash to you, you will get stepped on repeatedly. It was your own group, had you asserted yourself he would probably have never done it again.
Addone_Abaddon
I'm not just reffering to this point, I'm just saying that it'd make people feel much better about themselves if everyone payed attention, though I guess in real life there are people like that.
DeanBB
If you were having lag issues are you sure your messages got thru? It is all the same pipe, after all.
Rok
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Originally Posted by Addone_Abaddon
I'm not just reffering to this point, I'm just saying that it'd make people feel much better about themselves if everyone payed attention, though I guess in real life there are people like that.
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No matter if you were in my guild, you wouldn't get another PvP group if you lag that bad.
What is with all the people that come on here and whine. True that other guy was as big a n00b as you and had no right calling you names, since he didn't know Frozen Soil was in effect.
LoneDust
I always find the ignore function trickily elusive.
Sagius Truthbarron
Yeah, dude, becuase Guild Wars is survival of the fittest! If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen! They should already know everything about PvP before playing it. Its a game, so naturally everyone should be 100% competitive and constantly insult eachother over petty crap.
If you can't take the Constant Petty Crap Insult System (CPCIS) I suggest you stop playing the game now.
Anyway, Abaddon, that guy wasn't not listening to you. He didn't want to. People do that alot. That's why you don't just pick up some random guy in HA, becuase most of them are stupid and chockablock full of mental/authority problems.
Alot of the problem with people listing to you has to do with you listening to them. If you don't give heed or consideration to some people's suggestions, they may not be as inclined to listen to you. In those situations, make an honest assesment of your expirience and the expirience of the person talking.
All in all, most people today (and 80% of Guild Wars players) are unable to comform to group mentality. They have been exposed to selfishness for so long that a self-sacrificing attitude is nearly impossible for them.
Well, all the advice I can give is that if you want to find cooperative people, the people already with you, and you yourself, have to have those qualities aswell. This will make people who hate idiots want to stay with you.
Listening, though, doesn't have anything to do with being expirienced or being new, or what have you. Its about having the right mindset. Don't let anyone discourage you. You can be just as good as anyone else with the right attitude.
If you can't take the Constant Petty Crap Insult System (CPCIS) I suggest you stop playing the game now.
Anyway, Abaddon, that guy wasn't not listening to you. He didn't want to. People do that alot. That's why you don't just pick up some random guy in HA, becuase most of them are stupid and chockablock full of mental/authority problems.
Alot of the problem with people listing to you has to do with you listening to them. If you don't give heed or consideration to some people's suggestions, they may not be as inclined to listen to you. In those situations, make an honest assesment of your expirience and the expirience of the person talking.
All in all, most people today (and 80% of Guild Wars players) are unable to comform to group mentality. They have been exposed to selfishness for so long that a self-sacrificing attitude is nearly impossible for them.
Well, all the advice I can give is that if you want to find cooperative people, the people already with you, and you yourself, have to have those qualities aswell. This will make people who hate idiots want to stay with you.
Listening, though, doesn't have anything to do with being expirienced or being new, or what have you. Its about having the right mindset. Don't let anyone discourage you. You can be just as good as anyone else with the right attitude.
Tingi
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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
If you can't take the Constant Petty Crap Insult System (CPCIS) I suggest you stop playing the game now.
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Trvth Jvstice
This game is full of spoiled 13 year-olds that are totally self absorbed. Bullied at school they finally have a way to be the bully themselves.
Either lower youself to their level and get in a name calling contest, or ignore them. If it get's too bad and you're with a mostly guild group like you said, go to guild chat and ask them to stand up for you like they should already be doing. If your guild will put up with an outsider harassing their guildie, they're not much of a guild anyway.
My guild would have put a stop to it instantly.
Either lower youself to their level and get in a name calling contest, or ignore them. If it get's too bad and you're with a mostly guild group like you said, go to guild chat and ask them to stand up for you like they should already be doing. If your guild will put up with an outsider harassing their guildie, they're not much of a guild anyway.
My guild would have put a stop to it instantly.
2ndName
You know what I do when people throw some insults or start going on some sort of an online rage. I just type "haha" or "thanks". It usually shut them up for good. Makes them realize how stupid they are for ruining a perfectly good time. Also, happiness can't fuel anger.
Symon Butterthingers
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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
Yeah, dude, becuase Guild Wars is survival of the fittest! If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen! They should already know everything about PvP before playing it. Its a game, so naturally everyone should be 100% competitive and constantly insult eachother over petty crap.
If you can't take the Constant Petty Crap Insult System (CPCIS) I suggest you stop playing the game now. |
Sagius Truthbarron
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Originally Posted by Symon Butterthingers
please tell me you joking...
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eternal pho
Unranked pugs ftw...
Sometimes it gets so frustrating communicating without a mic. I mean a few days ago, the entire party was spamming on the chat screamed "PUT UP FROZEN" to one of the rangers. It took him minutes to put it up and he told everyone he didn't see the messages.
Sometimes it gets so frustrating communicating without a mic. I mean a few days ago, the entire party was spamming on the chat screamed "PUT UP FROZEN" to one of the rangers. It took him minutes to put it up and he told everyone he didn't see the messages.
Earth
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Originally Posted by supaet
I'm sorry, but if you do not know the name of a spirit that ranger use that prevents res. You are a noob in ha. lol
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Xenrath
Some of the responses in here typify the jerk behaviour the OP encountered. Maybe if everyone trying to get involved in HA, new players and old who give it a shot.. maybe they should just not bother as they'll be called "noobs" and other childish crap even due to problems beyond their control.
Then all that will be left will be the stuck up people who need to boost their egos at the expense of other (anonymous) people online. As they get bored of the game and move on, PvP will ultimately self destruct from lack of new blood. That'll keep the name callers happy I'm sure.
Then all that will be left will be the stuck up people who need to boost their egos at the expense of other (anonymous) people online. As they get bored of the game and move on, PvP will ultimately self destruct from lack of new blood. That'll keep the name callers happy I'm sure.
Addone_Abaddon
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Originally Posted by Rok
Yes because it is everyone else's job to make you feel good about yourself. What a n00b. You probably cry when someone says you are an ebayer too.
No matter if you were in my guild, you wouldn't get another PvP group if you lag that bad. What is with all the people that come on here and whine. True that other guy was as big a n00b as you and had no right calling you names, since he didn't know Frozen Soil was in effect. |
2. when I said I, like many other players are having lags, it's the new updates.
Rurik Jangeer
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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice
This game is full of spoiled 13 year-olds that are totally self absorbed. Bullied at school they finally have a way to be the bully themselves.
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EDIT: Stupid quote...
Epinephrine
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Originally Posted by Rurik Jangeer
Generalizations FTL. I'm tired of people always blaming the immaturity in this game on my age group. Sure it contributes, I acknowledge that. Do you acknowledge that your age group contributes to it also? Probably not. It's not always the 13-14 year olds people...
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Yeah, the game is full of spoiled 30-something year olds with kids who have nothing better to do than talk trash.
Guardian of the Light
There are lots of idiots in the world if you care what all of them have to say you might as well be an idiot
Superdarth
Thats the community,they dont WANT to listen just insult people.
I dont know why,but its pretty obvious,ive seen it at times to and theres no way the fool misses all those messaged,he just liked to act tough or sompthing..i dont know.
Its pathetic il tell you that,with those kind of folks you just gotta give them a nice hot cup of STFU.
I dont know why,but its pretty obvious,ive seen it at times to and theres no way the fool misses all those messaged,he just liked to act tough or sompthing..i dont know.
Its pathetic il tell you that,with those kind of folks you just gotta give them a nice hot cup of STFU.
Chris Blackstar
I want to tell you a short story, a player who crys will get nowhere in this game, even if what he is saying makes sense, so the player complained, then demanded that it be changed and recieved more negative comments, finally the player decied to just join the others in their own game, so he read up on what was involved with builds and skills, then listned to others, and explained his actions which made him sound like a pro.
Take that advice, if you do not like when players call you noob, then learn the game enough so you sound, and play like a pro. That also means if you are having a lagging problem, then try logging off then back on. Anet does not cause lag as much as your connection does.
Take that advice, if you do not like when players call you noob, then learn the game enough so you sound, and play like a pro. That also means if you are having a lagging problem, then try logging off then back on. Anet does not cause lag as much as your connection does.
eternal pho
You'll find a lot of hot heads in pvp.
Yakumo
Some people do not listen, simply because they prefer to be heard.
You can't reason with them, so just say your piece, and ignore. No use in shouting at a brick wall.
You can't reason with them, so just say your piece, and ignore. No use in shouting at a brick wall.
Misc Merik
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Matsumi
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Originally Posted by Addone_Abaddon
to what others have to say on the game, today I got really annoyed in HA at a person calling me a noob, I was in the party way before he joined, and once he'd joined, I'd announced that I, like many other players are having alot of lags, and while entering HA, the screen went blank, then sideways, then normal, but I couldn't move, he thought I was afk, then I said that I was here but lagging, he repetedly called me a noob and said that I shouldn't go afk, I was alive he was dead, and getting angry because I didn't res him, In said the rangers have used a spirit (I've forgotten the name) which prevents using res, again, he didn't listen, called me a noob again and told me not to go afk, so again, I typed that I'm lagging and the screen went sideways, he didn't answer, just called me a noob again.
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dantheman5415
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Originally Posted by X Earth X
Forgetting things is human.
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Meikleham of Tyr
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Originally Posted by X Earth X
Forgetting things is human.
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Oh, oops guys, I forgot to put my skills in my bar.
Oh, oops guys, I forgot that I have to get up in the morning, so I'm gonna log out in the middle of a mission.
Sure, everyone forgets things now and then, that DOES NOT MEAN that there are no consequences. If there were no consequences, no one would bother to remember anything.
garethporlest18
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Originally Posted by Matsumi
mmm, I don't know, but if you're lagging out that bad, I wouldn't expect people to be nice to you anyway. Maybe it's time to fix your computer and connection before entering any battles or situations where you're needed. From what it sounds like, you were just sitting there afk, lagging out, and typing things to the rest of your group? If my computer started acting like that, I would of told my guildies what's going on and logged off to fix it. Instead of carrying on through the lag and not doing anything, hoping it clears up by itself.
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All PUGS in HA aren't that bad. At least I hadn't ran into any, most of them were pretty nice. Some people do act childish, all ages, mostly those under 25, from my past experiences. Some people are just playing to be mean to other people. Can't do much about that it's life. Just ignore them.
MMSDome
this is why I refuse to pvp with people other then guildies and friends. Pvpers take Guild Wars to seriously.
Mpidemie
i just take people like them on the ignore list
Ken Dei
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Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar
I want to tell you a short story, a player who crys will get nowhere in this game, even if what he is saying makes sense, so the player complained, then demanded that it be changed and recieved more negative comments, finally the player decied to just join the others in their own game, so he read up on what was involved with builds and skills, then listned to others, and explained his actions which made him sound like a pro.
Take that advice, if you do not like when players call you noob, then learn the game enough so you sound, and play like a pro. That also means if you are having a lagging problem, then try logging off then back on. Anet does not cause lag as much as your connection does. |
This guy obviously knew what he was doing, the failing was not his. It was the moron he was working with.
If you're going to lag the same amount before and after you relog what's the point. As he's stated thelag was due to updates, not backlog in his program.
You can know all the builds, learn all the strategies and BE a pro and asshats like the one mentioned, the ones who don't LISTEN, the ones like you, will call people noobs.
Voltar
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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
chockablock full of mental/authority problems.
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yeah, playing games is like driving a car. people feel more comfortable anonymously being a jerk (and picking their noses but that's something different). you should be more supportive of them after all, the less we help them now, the longer we'll have to support them when they're on ssi and taking hundreds of dollars of mood stabilizers and antipsychotics in the future.
xiao1985
hehe, that's why i always monk...
you trashtalk, i warn you..
trash talk again, no heal for you....
trash talk again, ingore, and i'd never invite you/ be invited to your group again....
call me a jerk, but it always work... and the group usually can do well without a cry baby.... (thinking back did naipui quater with a 4 man team... due to jerk, afk'er, no'idea waht to do er, and a gtg'er)
you trashtalk, i warn you..
trash talk again, no heal for you....
trash talk again, ingore, and i'd never invite you/ be invited to your group again....
call me a jerk, but it always work... and the group usually can do well without a cry baby.... (thinking back did naipui quater with a 4 man team... due to jerk, afk'er, no'idea waht to do er, and a gtg'er)
Terra Xin
I find those people are the most annoying ones to have to deal with. It's like listening to a nagging child going;
"I know you are but what am I...
I know you are but what am I...
I know you are but what am I...
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I know you are but what am I..."
(Notice how I didn't put in a question mark in each one? Here's a hint, they aren't looking for an answer or an explanation... OP... good luck to you :P)
after you spend a few hours collecting your scattered brain together, you have to then remember how it all goes back into place, thats the second most annoying thing.
Whenever this happens, to me or someone else in my party, well, most of my groups aren't that stupid, so they'll generally back up the righter person, and often tell the noob caller to shut-up.
"I know you are but what am I...
I know you are but what am I...
I know you are but what am I...
I know you are but what am I...
I know you are but what am I...
I know you are but what am I...
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I know you are but what am I...
I know you are but what am I...
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I know you are but what am I...
I know you are but what am I...
I know you are but what am I...
I know you are but what am I...
I know you are but what am I..."
(Notice how I didn't put in a question mark in each one? Here's a hint, they aren't looking for an answer or an explanation... OP... good luck to you :P)
after you spend a few hours collecting your scattered brain together, you have to then remember how it all goes back into place, thats the second most annoying thing.
Whenever this happens, to me or someone else in my party, well, most of my groups aren't that stupid, so they'll generally back up the righter person, and often tell the noob caller to shut-up.
Artisan
I'd like to thank Rok for giving everyone here an example of why I hardly ever do HA.
Shadowspawn X
The issue here is you shouldn't be typing. Get on vent and dont run with a group that can't participate on the vent server. That illiminates 99% of communication issues.
Chris Blackstar
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Originally Posted by Ken Dei
If you're going to lag the same amount before and after you relog what's the point. As he's stated the lag was due to updates, not backlog in his program.
You can know all the builds, learn all the strategies and BE a pro and asshats like the one mentioned, the ones who don't LISTEN, the ones like you, will call people noobs. |
Tell you what, certain programs can make you lag also, depends on your system and mermory for your system, this guy could have been running 5 programs, you don't know, and since he did not explain what he was doing besides playing and blaming Anet, well it shows his maturity level.
Grow up, investigate why, and take responciblity for your actions, if it is determined that Anet is the cause, seek help from tech support, don't bitch.
Also know what he's talking about, I was treated the same way he was, I did not know IWAY, and got kicked and called noob. I haven't played HA for over a year, and besides knowing what IWAY stood for, I was oblivous to the build, so I looked it up.
P.S. I also like to get the last word in, so sorry for being an asshat.
The truth itself
IIRC, OP is the person who posted that, two lvl 13 critters, could kill an entire eight man level 20 party.