6V6 Weekend. Now that its out....

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I gave it a try it was fun I was playing with my R/N and got in a group of 6 R/N s.I was playing Cripshot Apply Poison and they were all touch Rangers.I was the only real Ranger on our team.Like others said Vimway Iway BloodSpiker.It was fun but I think I like the 8vs8.

ZomgZergRush

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Altrumm Ruins :o

Swarm of the Zerg [ZERG]

Rt/Me

I haven't seen a single r3,6,9+ group this weekend, and I guess thats a good thing. I did see a r11+ starburst forming thought :S

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

The new format feels much more organised and just overall more fun. 8v8 in arena style was just one big clusterRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO in the middle. Although it's like that on alter maps still, that's the style of the map, but the other map styles feel alot better to play

Y.T.

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

well that was fun 'cos r0-r2 players (just like me) decided thats the time to go get their 1st emotes - there were lots of hardcore-pve players, and it was fun to see some regular HA builds being ganked by some unranked pugs... hell i had LOTS of fun playing RC-prot in 1 of such pugs, our live vic-dolyaks tank runned in the middle of vimway traps *gasps* spammed HH, survived (gotta love RC) and cyclone-axed away all the trappers... tank, being the perfect farming build vs any melee-based oponent, was able to survive w/o any extra-heals for quite long time while 3 sorry w/r were chasing us 2 monky all over the arena... of cos eles died 1st but being pve eles they got used to it so they just waited patiently eventually iway team gave up and left/died, we collected our 2 fame and moved to the next arena where we found dual smite waiting 4 us... uh oh...

on the serious note - well yes it was fun, monking is always fun and healing for any pvp pug is more interesting that monking for pve. i guess it was another anet's attempt to prove that they care about pve and pvp players both... so they gave a chance to all unranked/low-ranked players to get some fame faster than usual and start farming even more fame in r3-5+ iways if thats what they desire...

also it was fun to play with middle-ranked (r4-r7) pvp players - with so many unranked pve chars invading HA ranked teams got less picky and actually started to invite unranked ppl with ts and flexible builds. i still cant get it how ppl can choose pvp-only char when they can start pve char and lvl it up and cap all elites in 2-3 days... they have to reroll pvp char every time they want to switch their armors, while all i have to do is to open my inv (even mid-game if i feel so), and they have to remember to put all pve weapons they bought in storage be4 rerolling, ugh, i cant be bothered... but then again its just me

Y.T.

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
However, 50% of the matches were VIMWAY. One Guru member nearly exploded from the frustration of facing it. Why is ArenaNet determined not to nerf it and IWAY?
well evrbdy and their grandma keep telling us that iway is the way to get fame w/o actually thinking about it. oh well, if thats what i have to do... i switched 2ndry on my war and tryed playing w/r (standart iway build) in iway with necro/rit and in vimway teams, geeze, that sucked.... why nerf them they're alrdy impaired i mean modded iway with 2 necros and rit was ok, but any not-so-drunk balanced pug even with some noobs in it can kill regular pug-stile iway if balanced got wards/aegis on 75%-90% of the time.

during the weekend it got even worse - i played in quite a few balanced and dual smite or just-get-together-we'll kill them-somehow teams, chances to find r3+ player in such teams were just as good as getting sapp/ruby off coldfires in UW - but nevertheless as long as we remembered who's casting next aegis we were getting to the next arena... its a mystery why evrbdy believes that iway and vimway r some sort of uber-builds - thats not true. i mean it might be that really good players working together r winning alot of matches and they might be using some sort of iway-vimway build, but then we're talking about skill vs cookie-cutter builds, skilled players have higher chances to win no matter what build they're running, right?

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

2 or 3 days to level up and cap all elites? o_O I normally only am able to play for 2-3 hours a day. Cant happen. Rolling is the way i have to go.

The Silver Star

The Silver Star

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK, Scotland

Il Guild Name Il

W/

I am enjoyig the HA weekend becasue there are a lot more people there to play with and it is much easier to find a team, you also have to play through all the matches to get to Halls usually without just jumping through most of them like usual. Persoanlly imyself dont like the weekend to much but im hopug this will lead up to there being more HA players again.

Well you would have to have a lot of money to do that.. .since you would need every Class, Skill, Armor, Weapon, and Runes to be able to make all the PvP builds when you can re-roll in a few secs, i have PvE characters that are just as good as a PvP character.. however i still just re-roll my PvP instead :P

Arcador

Arcador

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

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R/N

I saw many different and cool builds....except the rest 70% of the enemies were VIMWAY... We did some fun 3 hammer build (everyone got different hammer build) with a bonder and a booner and a henchie, we fought so much VIMWAY that we were filled with joy when we saw different build (even with henchies). One go all the teams we fought were VIMWAY...The 1v1 vs 1v1 got only VIMWAYS...those are not too tough builds, except in some sort of combo (we died to such).

Anyway it was cool event.

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath Of Dragons
So, people had a lot of theories, suspiscion, joy, anger ect. over the 6v6 HoH.
Now that its out, what are peoples thoughts? Just curious....I like to see how things turn out




Mods: Didnt see another thread about this. If so, no need to notify me about it, just delete
try the pvp forums dude. that's where they all are. Riverside Inn is for pve; however, this IS interesting to see how the PVErs feel about the event, so I kinda like this thread.

shadowfell

shadowfell

hamonite anur ruk

Join Date: Jan 2006

Echovald Forest

[PhD] Teh Academy

Me/A

I went from r3+ to r6+ farming something aside from fame. Didn't really see much difference between 6 and 8, maybe a bit more creative building, but you quickly see patterns emerging to where there would easily be a 6v6 replacement for the 8v8 standard.

Xioden

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Spent a lot less time forming groups which was nice, but that was a combination of double fame and 6 man teams. Forming a group of 6 is easier than 8 of course, but your left with the problem of the actual builds themselves. You are just simply extremely limited with what you can actually run. The Majority of the people who are running ViM/IWAY (and any combinations of the two) aside, you see more or less the same things: Dual-Smite, Pressure/Degen, Dual/Triple Starburst. You see the occasion ranger spike, but otherwise I haven't seen any really unique combos.. You simply don't have the skill slots neccesary to make any real variety from those few builds that work.

Then theres also remembering that it's a whole 3 days in.. Builds aren't really refined or tuned.. And people are really out looking to farm fame due to the double fame, but having just a weekend every month where it's 6-man teams would make an interesting periodic event though I think..

neuro_999

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Legion Euskadi

E/Me

I love the 6vs6 stile. More fast, more fun, more time
They can revert to normal fame gain.. but please let the 6vs6.

Just my 2 cents.

Denny Pace

Denny Pace

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Good Eye Sniper [GeS]

While HA is still a crap gametype in my book, I think that 6v6 is better suited for it than 8v8. One thing it does is decrease the number of interrupters for that most mindnumbing of 'battles', the Hall of Heroes.

wilson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

aggro bubble

[RD];[FW];[GOTS];[baed];[kiSu]

i did not play ha this weekend. i wasnt attracted by the double fame nor the smaller group size. i played some ab though

Across The Battle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Jersey

W/

Personally I enjoy the 6v6 it makes it more enjoyable/fun to do it.

The Silver Star

The Silver Star

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK, Scotland

Il Guild Name Il

W/

I dont think that it that great the 6vs6 as you are more limited, i dont think they should keep it as 6vs6 forever, but it is great as a change. Maybe they should do 6vs6 HA more often but without the double fame

eternal pho

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Licious Fame Farmers {TLG}

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I finally got rank 3 after getting into a Guru PuG while playing as a Crip Shot (when I never have played a Crip Shot in competitive PvP before. I sometimes surprise myself.). We even made it to Halls and beat the #4 guild. Just shows that not all PuGs are bad.

However, 50% of the matches were VIMWAY. One Guru member nearly exploded from the frustration of facing it. Why is ArenaNet determined not to nerf it and IWAY?

Because they can be ridiculiously easy to beat. ^^

RuPee

RuPee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Los Angeles, CA

[RoD]

Mo/

lol i concur... free fame ftw

JC68

JC68

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Slovakia

DVD Forums [DVDF]

W/

some pps have been able to get about 3k+ fame during this event :/
but 6vs6 is much better than 8vs8

Tingi

Tingi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

keep 6v6 please anet for a bit of diversity!

loving the HA event - lot's of fun with my alliance. My monk skills have gone up even more .

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

i like to have fun in HoH every now and again.

but this weekend is an utter joke.

iway/vimway/ or no way at all

its sad really, I was expecting MORE varied groups not LESS

Voltar

Voltar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

My dog let's me crash at her place.

POB

R/

i tried. went to ha and stood around reading local. After a few minutes i felt dirty and killed kurzicks in saltspray instead.

Misa

Misa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right next to the armor crafter.

Mo/

I had alot of fun monking for this pvp weekend.... I found it very different to monk in 6ppl party than 8ppl party because I had to run hybrid prot+heal builds. Also it was very fun playing against highly ranked guilds/grps

Besides playing GW 10hrs/day this weekend getting my next emote (missed few parties >.>) I also met alot of good players and built a great friendlist =D

GG double fame weekend!

Chris Blackstar

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

United States

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
i like to have fun in HoH every now and again.

but this weekend is an utter joke.

iway/vimway/ or no way at all

its sad really, I was expecting MORE varied groups not LESS
You didn't look hard enough, sure there was plenty of vimway/iway, but also a lot of balanced parties, as well as monk, henchies, blood spike, ant-vimway, and many others to choose from. I made vimway/Iway, but had been in many varous parties as well and earn a good amount of fame.

Considering that the most fame I had before this weekend was 3, and I have had the game since before it came out.

I bitched about how unfair it was before, but I guess I was being closed mined, I now appresate the different builds for HA, and plan on trying more of them out, it's been fun so far!

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

got bored of fighting vimway.. saturday 3 am fought it over 4 times in a row.

not that it's hard to beat it's just boring as RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing hell.

HolyHawk

HolyHawk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

lf guild~

Me/A

I really like this event, and I wish they could open an area for 6x6; however I think the 8x8 opens more space to balanced builds to work around their skill sets, and that 6x6 still limited winning builds to certain final guildlines, such as smiting, or degens. Traps also proved to be really annoying, and I dont mean the vimway groups, because they are really not a threat. I was happy seeing that necro spikes took a break as well. This weekend, unranked people who never liked to join a group playing iway, trapper, necro and recently spirits ritualists had a chance to have some fun. On the other side, the high ranked mafia will now have reasons to require rank9+ to be "worth" in their party. My point is, those who are dedicated to gvg combats and had it as priority won't find a place for hoh, and the rank gap will still grow. Further on, for me, even more after this event, rank doesn't mean skill.

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

So, in the start it was a new mix of balanced builds. There was creativity. Then, of course, people adapted. Vimway. and almost nothing else. the occasional dual smite popped in, and a rare balanced, but like 90% of the time it was vimway

sad. I was liking all the forced change in the beginning

RandomEngy

RandomEngy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Kansas City Hotsteppers [KCHS]

P/

People complain about vimway, but it's incredibly easy to beat. Every time we played it, we would beat it soundly, and I hardly ever saw it in halls. Every time I looked, there was something different. People just got too caught up in the whole "vimway is the new iway" to realize that it just plain sucks. It was this vicious cycle of stupidity where people say "looking for vimway players" so everyone assumes it's the hot new build and makes their characters and says "looking for vimway group", which just adds to the illusion of effectiveness. I mean if everyone is doing it, it has to be good right?

Dumb people playing ineffective builds is not a failing of the game type.

dr1zz one

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Coming from a PvE'er, I had a blast. Got 170 fame in about 5 hours. I didn't know what to expect, but it was great to see what PvP was about. I rolled with guildies until the weee hours of the morning. Then I pugged it with success. The matches were fast and fun. Well, except those relic runs.
Who can turn down double fame? Plus the fact there were many new players for the regular PvP people to pick on, me included.
What I saw was alot of dual smite, balanced, vimway. I saw why vimway is so popular, the setup takes maybe 2 minutes. Vent/TS is not necessary as well. I enjoyed playing with the guild. It was a great event, and maybe it hooked another PvE'er to play more PvP.
If they ever had this event again, you can count me in!

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

I too, come from a PvE background. After some bad experiences in PvP I was going to steer clear of HA this weekend, but I got sucked into all the hype and went in anyway. I have to admit, I had more fun than I expected. Since VIMWAY seemed to be the most popular, I rolled an IWAY warrior and that’s where I got most of my fame. For those of you screaming "NOOB!" Yeah, I am at PvP so shut up.

I played about 4 hours total this weekend and got 100 fame (from 0). Last night I decided to try something other than VIMWAY, so I rolled a Starburst ele and got in to a couple Starburst groups. Maybe I just got into bad groups, but I got ZERO fame playing Starburst. I doubt I’ll try that again, but I may go for a balanced group…if anyone will have me.

To sum up, I'll probably go back again. I'm only 80 fame away from getting a bambie. That's about the only thing I haven't accomplished in GW yet, so why not?

SirShadowrunner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

at the beach

Gamerzunlimited (GU)

R/

Being mainly a pve player with a little gvg thrown in for kicks,
decided to try some HA over the weekend and have some fun.
I played for 2 hours in pugs on the european servers, I have
never saw so many flashing animals in my life!!!!
I came out the same way I went in, still at one fame point,
lost every single match, man I sux at Halls, tried IWAY a little,
but not very famailiar with running the build. I hope most ppl
enjoyed the event, seemed to go over well, with Europe holding
halls most of the time.

QuixotesGhost

QuixotesGhost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
People complain about vimway, but it's incredibly easy to beat. Every time we played it, we would beat it soundly, and I hardly ever saw it in halls. Every time I looked, there was something different. People just got too caught up in the whole "vimway is the new iway" to realize that it just plain sucks. It was this vicious cycle of stupidity where people say "looking for vimway players" so everyone assumes it's the hot new build and makes their characters and says "looking for vimway group", which just adds to the illusion of effectiveness. I mean if everyone is doing it, it has to be good right?
Seriously, after I fought my first ViMway group my thoughts were... "That was it?"

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Well, I went back last night after it went back to the same old fame and 8v8. For me, it was as bad as before. Someone dies and they immediately rage quit. Not once, but several times. The last time I went in, I was literally the last person left in my group because everyone else quit and still stood my ground for a long time. What a bunch of wimps and babies.

No, I'm not going back. I don't need that kind of aggravation.

Misa

Misa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right next to the armor crafter.

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodyDotNet
Well, I went back last night after it went back to the same old fame and 8v8. For me, it was as bad as before. Someone dies and they immediately rage quit. Not once, but several times. The last time I went in, I was literally the last person left in my group because everyone else quit and still stood my ground for a long time. What a bunch of wimps and babies.

No, I'm not going back. I don't need that kind of aggravation.
Maybe it's time to stop playing VIMWAY or IWAY (judging from your pervious post.... i assume that's what u played in 8men).

If you really want to have fun in PVP in HA, you should join a nice & active PVP guild that does various builds in HA. I am sure my guild has a policy against ragequitters

Stemnin

Stemnin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

Wow found some nice monks.. the best were r0 and thought they were r1, but they were awesome.. i feel jealous..

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Misa
Maybe it's time to stop playing VIMWAY or IWAY (judging from your pervious post.... i assume that's what u played in 8men).

If you really want to have fun in PVP in HA, you should join a nice & active PVP guild that does various builds in HA. I am sure my guild has a policy against ragequitters
You're right Misa. I was doing both. I had rolled a Rit Lord, but stood around for an hour trying to get a group, so I went back to an IWAY warrior just so I could play.

Phrozenflame

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

I hope you learn a lesson WoodyDotNet for playiing just IWAY, they are called noobs and there is a good reason for that.

Playing IWAY is a vicious circle that you must break the sooner the better.

I had alot of fun, you know why, because ALL IWAY noobs were doing IWAY with Vim and vimmers were doing Vim and youk now what that meant, the IWAY and Vimway got double FAME at THE SLOWEST RATE, thats what I liked the most, I must admit 80% of my 600 fame cmae beating sorry Vimway and iway nubs, and some of my freinds woh were like R2 playing balanced easily surpassed Iway Noobs. IWAY and VIMMERs lost the most in this event.

You see the thingi s many people we beat often rage quited from their vim groups, Vim / Iway isnt as good as it is in 8 v8 so one must expect so humiliating defeats to trigger rage quits, it was great to see them fall apart, wonderfull

6v6 is great, more emphasis on player skills rather than just cookie cutters. GG

shadowfell

shadowfell

hamonite anur ruk

Join Date: Jan 2006

Echovald Forest

[PhD] Teh Academy

Me/A

Ahh, who cares what people played, so long as they played. Was good to see a lot of activity in the halls, regardless of what it was. Vim, or Iway, as lame as people think they are, and frankly, even the naysayers of those builds have played them before, still managed to topple highly ranked teams and guilds. So, if it worked, and people were getting fame from it, more power to them. If they want to continue on, earning fame at a decent rate, they will adapt, or settle for a few maps here and there. Who cares.. It's a game, have fun.

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowfell
Ahh, who cares what people played, so long as they played. Was good to see a lot of activity in the halls, regardless of what it was. Vim, or Iway, as lame as people think they are, and frankly, even the naysayers of those builds have played them before, still managed to topple highly ranked teams and guilds. So, if it worked, and people were getting fame from it, more power to them. If they want to continue on, earning fame at a decent rate, they will adapt, or settle for a few maps here and there. Who cares.. It's a game, have fun.
QFT,

People were having a blast, and that should always be the most important reason to play. I talked with some older pvp'ers and some of them were grumpy with the thing that new players got their rank from zilch to six in no time. Well, who cares , as long as we all are having fun battling against each other.