Why would someone believe such a thing?
Why would NC Soft can its newly knighted "bread and butter"?
BTW I read this rumor when I stumbled upon the post in a Gamespot Guild Wars forum while doing a search on Google. There were some basic complaints that the graphics engine was getting old? Even when its continually tweaked by the cofounder of ANET, who BTW coded it with his two hands.
Why would anyone care to start a rumor so obvious?
Rumor Mill: GW: Nightfall is the last of the series?
Omega X
Knightsaber Sith
No way they would cut off the series when the whole campaign every six months system is just getting started
Terra Xin
we need to orgainze a group of thread killers and rumour quashers
go with this one, it works everytime:
"Unless it's been confirmed by Anet, sit down and be quiet!!"
go with this one, it works everytime:
"Unless it's been confirmed by Anet, sit down and be quiet!!"
gr3g
No one ever got rich working at a rumor mill.
That said, we know for a fact that C4 is being worked on. See http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Campaign_Four
Now it might be that GWN will be the last GW where our old Tyrian characters can still visit. C4 can easily be the next step in the evolution of the game, with new mechanics and even a new genre. Think Warcraft to World of Warcraft.
Or maybe it will be Guild Wars In Space... With Leprechauns!
You have to agree, that would be one sweet game.
That said, we know for a fact that C4 is being worked on. See http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Campaign_Four
Now it might be that GWN will be the last GW where our old Tyrian characters can still visit. C4 can easily be the next step in the evolution of the game, with new mechanics and even a new genre. Think Warcraft to World of Warcraft.
Or maybe it will be Guild Wars In Space... With Leprechauns!
You have to agree, that would be one sweet game.
Amity and Truth
I doubt that A-Net would ever make it impossible for one character to not enter a new chapter. I know that A-Net was a bit surprised that people did not want to give up on their characters (there is a comment somewhere from a Developer stating this) but i'm sure they've learned from that and will never go as far as to force players to delete their old characters.
As for new chapters, i'm quite sure that they will increase in "magic and tech level" with each chapter coming out. This basically means:
Chapter 1 had not too much of magic and technology. Yes everyone is a caster of some sort, but still. If you look at the landscape everything is quite normal.
Chapter 2 had whole landscapes being enchanted by a curse
Chapter 3 will probably suffer from an enormous outbreak of "Darkness". The same that happened to the Tombs. Yet another increase.
Chapter 4... who knows?
Somewhere along the chapters i'm quite sure we'll see some underwater Palaces, some floating castles. A whole flying continent and as everyone of these things gets used, the next step has to be more fantastic, more colorful than the one before. Even if this includes meeting a space travelling race and such. Doing dimensional shifts or maybe planetary ships (maybe sailing in some kind of magic space bark to beat the evil Mursaat/Forgotten where they came from) etc etc etc
As for new chapters, i'm quite sure that they will increase in "magic and tech level" with each chapter coming out. This basically means:
Chapter 1 had not too much of magic and technology. Yes everyone is a caster of some sort, but still. If you look at the landscape everything is quite normal.
Chapter 2 had whole landscapes being enchanted by a curse
Chapter 3 will probably suffer from an enormous outbreak of "Darkness". The same that happened to the Tombs. Yet another increase.
Chapter 4... who knows?
Somewhere along the chapters i'm quite sure we'll see some underwater Palaces, some floating castles. A whole flying continent and as everyone of these things gets used, the next step has to be more fantastic, more colorful than the one before. Even if this includes meeting a space travelling race and such. Doing dimensional shifts or maybe planetary ships (maybe sailing in some kind of magic space bark to beat the evil Mursaat/Forgotten where they came from) etc etc etc
Vilaptca
As far as I know, this rumor was started by one of the previews stating that this would be the last of a three-part storyline. Hinting that the controlling evil behind Prophecies and Factions would finally be met in Nightfall. If you're read the Lore forums on GWGuru or GWOnline, you'd see that everyone believes it to be Dhuum, and that in Nightfall we'll finally defeat him and find out that he was behind the Charr, the Titans, the Lich, Shiro, etc. Thus the end of this 3-part storyline.
This could also mean the end of us following around Mhenlo, Aiden, Devona, Cynn, etc. And with Chapter 4, we may find a new group of NPCs to follow around on some exciting new adventure with a new evil to confront.
This could also mean the end of us following around Mhenlo, Aiden, Devona, Cynn, etc. And with Chapter 4, we may find a new group of NPCs to follow around on some exciting new adventure with a new evil to confront.
ChuckNorrispwns
Anything not confirmed by Anet is a guesstimation at best 
Irukandji
I agree that this rumour is probably as much rubbish as the most rumors out there, but I think Vilaptca's idea sounds quite reasonable. After those all-familiar 'Chaos Sparks' (or what were they called) also appeared in the "Day of the Dragon" event, it's probably just about time to finally tell us what the deal with those thingies is; and the fact that we seem to be about to being informed of what happened to the Tombs also might speak to this theory! I hope that it's something more interesting that "An evil entity we didn't know of before created and controlled them to gain power". Well, we will see... 
Exoudeous
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ubermancer
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As far as I know, this rumor was started by one of the previews stating that this would be the last of a three-part storyline. Hinting that the controlling evil behind Prophecies and Factions would finally be met in Nightfall. If you're read the Lore forums on GWGuru or GWOnline, you'd see that everyone believes it to be Dhuum, and that in Nightfall we'll finally defeat him and find out that he was behind the Charr, the Titans, the Lich, Shiro, etc. Thus the end of this 3-part storyline.
This could also mean the end of us following around Mhenlo, Aiden, Devona, Cynn, etc. And with Chapter 4, we may find a new group of NPCs to follow around on some exciting new adventure with a new evil to confront. |
Perhaps itll open some final quest arc in the UW, after Restoring the Monuments, where you party up with a Firestorm-slinging Gwen *OHGODMOMMYITBURNSMAKEITSTOPAHHHH*, open the big-shiny-mystery gates before engaging Dhuum himself... fun.
ubermancer
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Mister_Smiley
grrr i hate rummors, i know all about them, if its not by anet, then its not to be beleived. As for monsters go, they can keep on going with new ones. I mean they can also bring in new hench to help the story line and other ideas. Hell we don't even know what to expect in Nightfall at this point.
Omega X
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Originally Posted by Vilaptca
As far as I know, this rumor was started by one of the previews stating that this would be the last of a three-part storyline. Hinting that the controlling evil behind Prophecies and Factions would finally be met in Nightfall. If you're read the Lore forums on GWGuru or GWOnline, you'd see that everyone believes it to be Dhuum, and that in Nightfall we'll finally defeat him and find out that he was behind the Charr, the Titans, the Lich, Shiro, etc. Thus the end of this 3-part storyline.
This could also mean the end of us following around Mhenlo, Aiden, Devona, Cynn, etc. And with Chapter 4, we may find a new group of NPCs to follow around on some exciting new adventure with a new evil to confront. |
But I thought that the original NPCs were the stars of the Guild Wars world?
Not including the originals would be like spinning off the series into another like Law & Order or something.
Sieg Sol
Well with Windows Vista around the corner i can see why people started this rumor. DX10 etc cannot be ran from DX9 hardware. But if Anet were to make chapter 4 DX10 only that would be seriously stupid. Jan 30 is release date for Windows Vista according to Amazon pre orders. If Anet is to make chapter 4 DX10 they will need a DX9 version as well. This is what companies like Flagship is doing with Hellgate London.
AuraofMana
I bet in the end they are going to have a movie with something along the line of the end of the story where all the NPC (Mhenlo and the rest of the pimp gangstas) get accredited with this whole thing and people going "NO WAI I SAVED UR @$$!!!111!!"
LifeInfusion
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Well with Windows Vista around the corner i can see why people started this rumor. DX10 etc cannot be ran from DX9 hardware. But if Anet were to make chapter 4 DX10 only that would be seriously stupid. Jan 30 is release date for Windows Vista according to Amazon pre orders. If Anet is to make chapter 4 DX10 they will need a DX9 version as well. This is what companies like Flagship is doing with Hellgate London.
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EternalTempest
I was able to run Guild Wars on Vistia Beta 2 and RC 1. As long as GW can fall back go DX 9, they could make a dx 10 version and xp/2k can fall back to DX 9.
Same way that GW now runs on DX9 but can fall back to DX8 for older video cards. I do see GW being a Windows 2k-XP / Vistia for a long time to come.
Hellgate London and several other "Exclusive Vistia" games are nothing more then video games that ONLY support DX 10 / aka Windows Vistia by design to try and push Vistia. GW is not one of the "exclusive" to Vistia games.
Same way that GW now runs on DX9 but can fall back to DX8 for older video cards. I do see GW being a Windows 2k-XP / Vistia for a long time to come.
Hellgate London and several other "Exclusive Vistia" games are nothing more then video games that ONLY support DX 10 / aka Windows Vistia by design to try and push Vistia. GW is not one of the "exclusive" to Vistia games.
Omega X
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I was able to run Guild Wars on Vistia Beta 2 and RC 1. As long as GW can fall back go DX 9, they could make a dx 10 version and xp/2k can fall back to DX 9.
Same way that GW now runs on DX9 but can fall back to DX8 for older video cards. I do see GW being a Windows 2k-XP / Vistia for a long time to come. Hellgate London and several other "Exclusive Vistia" games are nothing more then video games that ONLY support DX 10 / aka Windows Vistia by design to try and push Vistia. GW is not one of the "exclusive" to Vistia games. |
So Guild Wars will run just fine on Vista using the DX9 renderer. Eventually they will add DX10 support.
(Vistia?)
actionjack
Maybe they will start working on Guild Wars 2?
Or maybe its some kind of internal conflic... with one employee stealing too much office supplies?
Mac GW?
Faulty Product that need to be Recalled?
no.. don't really see how it could be possible to stop making more GW chapters... atlest chapter 3 shouldn't really be the last.
Or maybe its some kind of internal conflic... with one employee stealing too much office supplies?
Mac GW?
Faulty Product that need to be Recalled?
no.. don't really see how it could be possible to stop making more GW chapters... atlest chapter 3 shouldn't really be the last.
Sieg Sol
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Erm they have Guild Wars to be run-able on different directX versions already (8 and 9)... so why can't they have 9 and 10?
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Everyone misunderstood what i said...its ok usually happens. I never said GW wouldnt run in windows Vista. What i did say is that if they made a DX10 version they would have to make a DX9 version as well or it would be a bad move. I know GW runs in vista im runnin it in Vista RC1 as we speak.
Ulivious The Reaper
I was confused with the whole DX10 because i herd things made for it arn't reverse compatable from a microsoft employee that my tech teacher had come in, and he also stated that thigns that use dx 9 won't be compatable with vista because of the whole taking out of a software "feature" that dx9 that supposedly slowed it down, meh i'm confused
LifeInfusion
Until Vista becomes mainstream in a year (of a few years) I doubt they will release a Vista capable engine because those things take time to make.
Age
I am sure they will let those with XP DX9 be able to play GW 4 and the next versions.I am not changeing my OS from XP to the Vista and some still have 98.
Monk Mystic
sieg sol is right on this. even if they do make it a DX10 game they would make a DX9 version as well. its like buying the game on mac and on PC we can all still play together we just need a different version right?
Mr_eX
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As far as I know, this rumor was started by one of the previews stating that this would be the last of a three-part storyline. Hinting that the controlling evil behind Prophecies and Factions would finally be met in Nightfall. If you're read the Lore forums on GWGuru or GWOnline, you'd see that everyone believes it to be Dhuum, and that in Nightfall we'll finally defeat him and find out that he was behind the Charr, the Titans, the Lich, Shiro, etc. Thus the end of this 3-part storyline.
This could also mean the end of us following around Mhenlo, Aiden, Devona, Cynn, etc. And with Chapter 4, we may find a new group of NPCs to follow around on some exciting new adventure with a new evil to confront. |
Loviatar
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all you need is a DX9 video card to run Vista so i am assuming you can run dx9 programs (GW) as well.
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Numa Pompilius
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If you're read the Lore forums on GWGuru or GWOnline, you'd see that everyone believes it to be Dhuum, and that in Nightfall we'll finally defeat him and find out that he was behind the Charr, the Titans, the Lich, Shiro, etc. Thus the end of this 3-part storyline.
This could also mean the end of us following around Mhenlo, Aiden, Devona, Cynn, etc. And with Chapter 4, we may find a new group of NPCs to follow around on some exciting new adventure with a new evil to confront. |
Also I personally wouldn't mind putting a big fat period down after Nightfall, and then, with ch4, starting over afresh. Hopefully with updated engine & graphics.
I like my characters, but I liked the freshness of starting a new character without access to a million in gold, without choice of perfect items, and without prior knowledge of the missions, more. I'd like to experience that again.
Horseman Of War
anyone with more than two brain cells would recognize this rumor as complete garbage.
as for the claims of anything dealing with the graphics engine- its been said that the game:
-will not have any higher requirements
-WILL implement a new 'kind' of lighting technique- new to GW at least- it will not affect your performance in any negative way (even if youre on the low-end of GW atm)
I really dont care enough about this thread to go fetch you the real quote, but I think its on GW official site.
If youve been on the low end for a while, it may be worth it to upgrade your card regardless - that is, if you enjoy the game enough for it to matter. You really dont know what you are missing if youre still on SM2.0 and doing 10 fps IMO
as for the claims of anything dealing with the graphics engine- its been said that the game:
-will not have any higher requirements
-WILL implement a new 'kind' of lighting technique- new to GW at least- it will not affect your performance in any negative way (even if youre on the low-end of GW atm)
I really dont care enough about this thread to go fetch you the real quote, but I think its on GW official site.
If youve been on the low end for a while, it may be worth it to upgrade your card regardless - that is, if you enjoy the game enough for it to matter. You really dont know what you are missing if youre still on SM2.0 and doing 10 fps IMO
Ventius Hozza
I hope they stop bringing new chapters, i sincerely do.
Ayarri Kentra
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Oh I hope you're right. That would be great.
Also I personally wouldn't mind putting a big fat period down after Nightfall, and then, with ch4, starting over afresh. Hopefully with updated engine & graphics. I like my characters, but I liked the freshness of starting a new character without access to a million in gold, without choice of perfect items, and without prior knowledge of the missions, more. I'd like to experience that again. |
Voltar
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Not including the originals would be like spinning off the series into another like Law & Order or something.
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Guild Wars: San Andreas
Voltar
well, i think that vista isn't really required either. i know that it's an option in hellgate but not required. i'm sure they can have graphics options 'greyed out' if they moved to an optional vista thingy.
that's what those are called...'thingies'
that's what those are called...'thingies'
Sieg Sol
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did anybody even notice that there is a set of requirements for running Vista on the MS site?
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Though there is nothing to worry about..as the DX10 game should have DX9 versions also.
As ive stated many times in my past posts..i never said you couldnt run DX9 games in Vista....please understand lol. Of course you can....im playing GW in vista RC1...
Gairoh
The rumour cant be true.....Come on!! ANET just got started,why would want to end it now??...Even if it's the final chapter for the story, Guildwars 2 will be introduced....whole new story, improved game play, grpahics and such....
Singularity593
Seeing as how much GW resembles collectable trading card games, [especially Magic: the Gathering] more than any other online game, I wouldn't be suprised if the GW team uses a system not unlike the method MtG uses to release its new card sets.
In MtG, the card makers release a large set of cards, called a core set. Then they release 2 sets of cards smaller than the core set every [4] months [correction pls?]. The company releases one core set and 2 smaller series of cards making a total of 3 sets which is called a "Block". Each of the 3 sets in the block is a "stand-alone" product in that a person needs to purchase only one of the 3 sets to play in sanctioned tournaments. Like Anet, MtG encourages players to buy cards from the other 2 sets from the block to gain an advantage in tourneys. After one block is released, the developers release a new core followed by 2 more sets in the block.
I think this is the general idea of Guild wars as well. Guild wars releases one big game that sets the world and starts the storyline for the next 2 chapters to come. GW:Factions adds on to the storyline abiet in a southern continent. GW:N would carry the storyline further and offer an explaination/ending for the previous games. Then perhaps after 3 chapters of GW, Anet will bring us a new world with a few different mechanics or gameplay.
In MtG, the card makers release a large set of cards, called a core set. Then they release 2 sets of cards smaller than the core set every [4] months [correction pls?]. The company releases one core set and 2 smaller series of cards making a total of 3 sets which is called a "Block". Each of the 3 sets in the block is a "stand-alone" product in that a person needs to purchase only one of the 3 sets to play in sanctioned tournaments. Like Anet, MtG encourages players to buy cards from the other 2 sets from the block to gain an advantage in tourneys. After one block is released, the developers release a new core followed by 2 more sets in the block.
I think this is the general idea of Guild wars as well. Guild wars releases one big game that sets the world and starts the storyline for the next 2 chapters to come. GW:Factions adds on to the storyline abiet in a southern continent. GW:N would carry the storyline further and offer an explaination/ending for the previous games. Then perhaps after 3 chapters of GW, Anet will bring us a new world with a few different mechanics or gameplay.
Amity and Truth
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Besides it's not a floating castle it's looking like a floating football of some sort - ugly as hell plus you can't enter it. I was talking along the lines of a beautiful white castle you can actually walk in like it can be seen on one of the concept arts for chapter 3.
Arcador
Probably it will be new story in a far lands from those we are used to. The concept will stay the same, but the storyline will be different. Keep in mind they can do all of the creatures worlds - Mursaat world, Chaar lands, and etc.
Thallandor
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Anyways hopefully we wont see a repeat of the ripoff that Turbine did on their customers where they closed AC2 servers shortly after they sold the expansion pack for it....and now they are ripping off players with DDO and soon their sub standard LoTRonline...i feel sorry for the fans of the titles.
Sentential
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lol bro DX10 is a whole new structure for windows Vista. Windows XP and DX9Hardware cannot run DX10. They would need to create a dif engine for it, or take the extra time to implement it in the game to downgrade to DX9 engine, which would not be as easy. Trust me on this I know as im in the Computer Biz..
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If they made a DX10 updated version of guildwars people would be able to run it just fine. However it would be lacking the PS/VS4.0 shading features since they require a DX10 card.
This is just like people who play half-life2 on dx8 cards. For the most part it looks identical *Except* they cannot use HDR since it requires a dx9 card to operate.
So in short the only thing that would be missing is certian effects... thats all.
Tetris L
At one point in future (but I believe that point will be a later than C4) ANet will probably have to break compatibility in order to work around technical limitations of the old engine, server and/or client side. But that doesn't mean that the GW series will end or that old characters are obsolete. It should easily be possible to import the old character database and adapt it to the new server engine. Players who play the new and enhanced Guild Wars Mark II may be using a different gw.exe, so in worst case seamless transition from the "new" campaign to the "old" campaigns won't be possible by simply clicking the ship symbol on the map. And maybe players of the "old" GW won't be able to compete against the players of the "new" GW on the Battle Isles. But I'm 100% sure that ANet will always find a way to allow old characters access to new campaigns. Not doing so would scare away too many of their loyal customers.