Rumor Mill: GW: Nightfall is the last of the series?

majoho

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05 Sep 2006 at 16:22 - 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
Why would someone believe such a thing?

Why would NC Soft can its newly knighted "bread and butter"?

BTW I read this rumor when I stumbled upon the post in a Gamespot Guild Wars forum while doing a search on Google. There were some basic complaints that the graphics engine was getting old? Even when its continually tweaked by the cofounder of ANET, who BTW coded it with his two hands.

Why would anyone care to start a rumor so obvious?
You should have posted a link to the post, to me this just sounds like you are starting such a rumor.

led-zep

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05 Sep 2006 at 16:28 - 42
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
You couldnt be more wrong and I actually "am in the computer biz". Here's the deal, the way that DX10 uses shaders requires a graphics card with a unified pipeline. However a DX10 card can run DX9 applications and in addition all DX builds contain the files from previous versions enabling people to run older versions.

If they made a DX10 updated version of guildwars people would be able to run it just fine. However it would be lacking the PS/VS4.0 shading features since they require a DX10 card.

This is just like people who play half-life2 on dx8 cards. For the most part it looks identical *Except* they cannot use HDR since it requires a dx9 card to operate.

So in short the only thing that would be missing is certian effects... thats all.
QFT this guy knows what he's talking about. for a perfect current example look at half life 2 (as stated) and how the details in the maps scale down depending what version of dx your card is capable of. not only lighting but also simple things like grass on the ground, water types etc etc.

one of the biggest cheats in online gaming in cs was to have a lower dx card so you dont get the blind/sway effects from grens as your card couldnt reproduce it.

some people should realise that selling modems in PC World doesnt make you 'in the compluter biz' and actually listen to guys like this.

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05 Sep 2006 at 16:40 - 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
You couldnt be more wrong and I actually "am in the computer biz". Here's the deal, the way that DX10 uses shaders requires a graphics card with a unified pipeline. However a DX10 card can run DX9 applications and in addition all DX builds contain the files from previous versions enabling people to run older versions.

If they made a DX10 updated version of guildwars people would be able to run it just fine. However it would be lacking the PS/VS4.0 shading features since they require a DX10 card.

This is just like people who play half-life2 on dx8 cards. For the most part it looks identical *Except* they cannot use HDR since it requires a dx9 card to operate.

So in short the only thing that would be missing is certian effects... thats all.
amen, you were able to post before I was....good post...

Numa Pompilius

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05 Sep 2006 at 17:48 - 44
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Originally Posted by Thallandor
How about Guild wars 2, The MMO with 200 levels, multiple class change types, mounts, non instanced maps and free server wide PvP?
You'd want that?
I wouldn't.

big freddy

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05 Sep 2006 at 18:34 - 45
Psh! They cant stop the series yet. I still have to get my rain forest/South American inspired campeign. =P

There is no way they can stop without letting me have a monkey for a pet. I simply refuse the thought!

Age

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05 Sep 2006 at 21:51 - 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca
As far as I know, this rumor was started by one of the previews stating that this would be the last of a three-part storyline. Hinting that the controlling evil behind Prophecies and Factions would finally be met in Nightfall. If you're read the Lore forums on GWGuru or GWOnline, you'd see that everyone believes it to be Dhuum, and that in Nightfall we'll finally defeat him and find out that he was behind the Charr, the Titans, the Lich, Shiro, etc. Thus the end of this 3-part storyline.

This could also mean the end of us following around Mhenlo, Aiden, Devona, Cynn, etc. And with Chapter 4, we may find a new group of NPCs to follow around on some exciting new adventure with a new evil to confront.
I hope not that this won't be part of this series as I would like to go here first.Then hopefully ascalon will be restored.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Tombs_of_Drascir

Omega X

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05 Sep 2006 at 21:57 - 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by majoho
You should have posted a link to the post, to me this just sounds like you are starting such a rumor.
Sorry.

Here ya go: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/guild...700&pid=932734

The guy didn't report where he originally heard it. But one other person in this thread heard something similar to that effect.

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05 Sep 2006 at 22:53 - 48
1. only star wars geeks and lotr nerds would look at this as a trilogy.
2. considering your other posts around here, and being so judgemental of others', you sound like a hipocrite for spreading such worthless news
3. what, exactly, about the "graphics" engine needs changed? Comparing this game (or any) to Oblivion is kind of pointless, seeing how Oblivion's engine is not only overly complicated/taxing on requirements- it also has the Havok to worry about (which is also rediculously flawed, and im not going to even get into it) coupled with the fact that there is STILL not a quality patch for the many bugs within the game (not counting the 200+ hour 'jittering items/stuck animation' glitch which makes the game unplayable after said time) I havent seen Titan quest, and I doubt the game is worth playing.

If the game was set up to be a trilogy, it would not be 'stand alone.' We might get some insight to new lore, but we wont get any kind of 'ending' to the first two chapters.

Ninna

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05 Sep 2006 at 23:23 - 49
I heard a rumor that Jeff Strain was leaving ANET.... (SARCASM)

anyone can start a rumor

Mister_Smiley

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05 Sep 2006 at 23:38 - 50
ahh i rumors, i rememeber back in the day, rumors of Diablo 2 and such, took them forever to get it out and then the expansion, patches and such. Then Diablo 3, which has yet to happen, got pushed back to next year supposibly. So i don't beleive in rumors intill the company says it. Till then sit back and relaxe and injoy Guildwars.

Sieg Sol

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05 Sep 2006 at 23:55 - 51
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
You couldnt be more wrong and I actually "am in the computer biz". Here's the deal, the way that DX10 uses shaders requires a graphics card with a unified pipeline. However a DX10 card can run DX9 applications and in addition all DX builds contain the files from previous versions enabling people to run older versions.

If they made a DX10 updated version of guildwars people would be able to run it just fine. However it would be lacking the PS/VS4.0 shading features since they require a DX10 card.

This is just like people who play half-life2 on dx8 cards. For the most part it looks identical *Except* they cannot use HDR since it requires a dx9 card to operate.

So in short the only thing that would be missing is certian effects... thats all.
Bro actually im 100% right... Unless The game dubs down DX10 to DX9 you arent running it. DX 9 hardware cannot run DX10 games. Why dont people read my posts instead of half of them??? And if they cant figure out how to do such they will need more than 1 version of the game. Dont believe me??? Read up on DX10's structure. Its built from the ground up. That is why in Windows Vista they are implementing DX9.0L. L stands for LEGACY. That is what windows Aero will be run off of. So i know what im talking about...

Again another person misunderstands me...

All you did was say what i said over again...

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06 Sep 2006 at 00:48 - 52
According to Guikdwiki, there will be a compaign 4.

Lonk

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06 Sep 2006 at 03:23 - 53
I'm pretty sure they already said chapter 4 was in the planning stages at the very least, the rumors of gw ending is completely unfounded and probably started by trolls.

Mordakai

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06 Sep 2006 at 04:05 - 54
Uhh, Chapter 4 was started four months ago - right after Factions was finished.

Remember: 2 teams, one year on each.

(I guess Nightfall team got 6 months off after Prophecy, or was busy adding content to Prophecy, or Nightfall has 18 months development? anyone know?)

Ninna

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06 Sep 2006 at 11:05 - 55
yes it was stated that Chapter 4 development was started months ago

e3 preview from May 2006
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?s... ID=82&bhcp=1
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Due to their rapid release schedule, there are two teams working at Arena.net on the next two Campaigns so that new Campaigns can be released as quickly as possible while still maintaining a high level of content

(i.e. one team has been working on Campaign 3 for the last 3 or 4 months, and the other team just started on Campaign 4, so that each Campaign has about a year of development.).
but rumors by unknown people on messageboards gets peoples attention anyhow

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06 Sep 2006 at 11:13 - 56
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Originally Posted by ubermancer
Well, thatd certainly be fun. Id love the chance to fight a *GOD* ingame.

Perhaps itll open some final quest arc in the UW, after Restoring the Monuments, where you party up with a Firestorm-slinging Gwen *OHGODMOMMYITBURNSMAKEITSTOPAHHHH*, open the big-shiny-mystery gates before engaging Dhuum himself... fun.

OMGOMGOMG GWEN IS DHUUM!!!!!

Sam Stormwind

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06 Sep 2006 at 13:01 - 57
Yeh i think that it would be good if they started chapter 4 afresh no old characters. I would deffinently liven the game up would be a good move i think.

rollntider

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06 Sep 2006 at 13:12 - 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sieg Sol
Bro actually im 100% right... Unless The game dubs down DX10 to DX9 you arent running it. DX 9 hardware cannot run DX10 games. Why dont people read my posts instead of half of them??? And if they cant figure out how to do such they will need more than 1 version of the game. Dont believe me??? Read up on DX10's structure. Its built from the ground up. That is why in Windows Vista they are implementing DX9.0L. L stands for LEGACY. That is what windows Aero will be run off of. So i know what im talking about...

Again another person misunderstands me...

All you did was say what i said over again...
No its a case where you did not explain yourself properly

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sieg Sol
lol bro DX10 is a whole new structure for windows Vista.
Not entirely true

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sieg Sol
Windows XP and DX9Hardware cannot run DX10.
True but that is not what people are calling you on.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sieg Sol
They would need to create a dif engine for it, or take the extra time to implement it in the game to downgrade to DX9 engine, which would not be as easy. Trust me on this I know as im in the Computer Biz.
Um...and microsoft says this, it disputes what you say.


Quote:
Originally Posted by microsoft
Many of the advanced features and performance improvements of Direct 3D10 are provided by Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM), which is also required by Direct3D9Ex, an extended version of DirectX Graphics 9.0c used by Desktop Window Manager. ......
Because Direct3D 10 hardware will not be available immediately and the Vista Premium logo program does not require it, the first D3D10-compatible games will still provide a D3D9/D3D9Ex render path.
You stated one fact and a few misconceptions. DX10 is a new Direct 3d engine, but it will include legacy in it. So if you still run XP, you can still play DX10 games.(just with out bells and the whistles) It would be suicide for a game company to alienate a majority of their client base, since not everyone upgrades right away.

TiNkLeR

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06 Sep 2006 at 13:54 - 59
Im going to start a rumour.


GuildWars will not be a part of NCsoft in the next chapter.

Now spread it wildfire, every stupid guy will believe, its cool.

bamm bamm bamm

bamm bamm bamm

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06 Sep 2006 at 14:01 - 60
In the recent PCFormat magazine (which I bought soley because it had an assassin on the cover ) says:

Quote:
Originally Posted by PCFormat, Sept 2006
All the best stories come in a trilogy and now the saga which began with Guild Wars: Prophecies (the full install of which you'll find in on this month's bonus disc), and continued with Factions, comes to a close in Nightfall. That's not to say this is the last chapter of Guild Wars, just the culmination of the Titans/Shiro story arc.

Omega X

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06 Sep 2006 at 15:29 - 61
Can anyone with that magazine confirm that quote from PCFormat?



EDIT:

Its in Wikipedia too.
Quote:
It has been suggested in an article UK PC Format that Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall are a trilogy with Nightfall just the culmination of the Titans/Shiro story arc. The Prophecies and Factions stories are only loosly linked so it is speculated the Nightfall storyline will connect the actions of the protagonists from the previous episodes and that this outcast god may have been the one to cause the Lich Lord (Chapter 1 Antagonist) and Shiro (Chapter 2 Antagonist) to suddenly become evil and powerful. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild_Wars_Nightfall

TiNkLeR

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06 Sep 2006 at 15:45 - 62
Yeah its true.. I have the mag.

My Sweet Revenga

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06 Sep 2006 at 18:25 - 63
Wouldn't surprise me. The engine is starting to get old. But if they do make a whole new guild wars game with a new engine, it'd be awsome if we could import what we've already done with our current guild wars characters into the next one.

Knightsaber Sith

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06 Sep 2006 at 19:03 - 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga
Wouldn't surprise me. The engine is starting to get old. But if they do make a whole new guild wars game with a new engine, it'd be awsome if we could import what we've already done with our current guild wars characters into the next one.
like when you permanently transfer your D2 characters to Lord of Destruction expansion characters

Mordakai

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06 Sep 2006 at 19:20 - 65
Woah, guys, it's a big leap from saying "The end of a trilogy" and a whole new Guild Wars 2 (which, I assume, would re-launch the Core classes again).

I think it's a bit early for GW 2, and bet Chapter 4 will just be the start of a new storyline, with better graphics, naturally, but with the standard new missions, 2 new profs, new skills, etc.

LiamR

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06 Sep 2006 at 19:37 - 66
To make a rumor, it has to be beleiveable and not too drastic. For instance, there will only be the 6 core classes in ch4.. there will be 6 new classes in ch4.
If you look at a peice of jade in 'the deep' you see homer simpson. ^^

big freddy

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06 Sep 2006 at 20:30 - 67
You know Everquest lasted from 1999 to late 2004 (maybe even early 05. But Im not sure).
Anarchy Online is still going. They've started in 09 too I think.

Just because an engine is getting old doesnt mean the game is going anywhere. Even with this so called 'old engine', when you turn up all the graphics, the landscape in Guild Wars is by far prettier than a ton of other MMOs.

It's only been a year and a half. Guild Wars isnt going anywhere.

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06 Sep 2006 at 20:36 - 68
Ok guys, here's the run down on Vista.

Vista will contain BOTH DX9.0L and DX10. They are 2 different installs of DX on the system. They did this because DX10 is so drasticly different, this makes for less backwords compatibilty issues.

As for right now there are no games planned for DX10 that cannot run on DX9. So any game that supports DX10, will also support turning off those DX10 effects so they can run on DX9. This is at least for the time being. Eventually we will see games that are DX10 only.

For the case of GW if they add DX10 support it will still be completely backwords compatible just like it is now. Adding support is just that ADDING, not taking away.

So I don't think anyone should worry for right now. You will still be able to play upcomming games that are DX10 capable, for now.

Omega X

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07 Sep 2006 at 04:28 - 69
Quote:
Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga
Wouldn't surprise me. The engine is starting to get old. But if they do make a whole new guild wars game with a new engine, it'd be awsome if we could import what we've already done with our current guild wars characters into the next one.
Jeff Strain has said that the engine won't become outdated. One of the founders, Mike O'Brien coded the engine and he/his team can upgrade it as the need arises. In Nightfall, we are getting new screen effects, better water effects and HDR lighting.

This isn't exactly something where you are stuck using a version of a 3rd Party engine like Unreal Engine and rely on the makers to upgrade it.

Sieg Sol

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07 Sep 2006 at 05:13 - 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by rollntider
No its a case where you did not explain yourself properly


Not entirely true

True but that is not what people are calling you on.

Um...and microsoft says this, it disputes what you say.




You stated one fact and a few misconceptions. DX10 is a new Direct 3d engine, but it will include legacy in it. So if you still run XP, you can still play DX10 games.(just with out bells and the whistles) It would be suicide for a game company to alienate a majority of their client base, since not everyone upgrades right away.
Bro im sorry to say that I am right. Its all fact Windows XP cannot run DX10 research bro. Your wrong totally. I have no reason to lie or missinform people. Everything ive said in my posts are true. NO DX10 for windows XP!!! Im sorry but DX10 is a new make up. DX9 cannot run DX10. WINDOWS VISTA AERO EFFECTS are ran off of DX9. DX10 is an extension of DX9 YES...but it IS NOT DX9. PLZ understand. DX10 is VISTA ONLY!

Im so tired of people not understanding my posts. I never said GW cant be run in VISTA!!! READ MY POSTS!!! I said if they go DX10 they will need to make a DX9 version if they cant figure out how to dumb down the engine to revert to DX9 shaders!!! OMG plz listen and let it go already! I did explain myself properly, it just seems people want to be the first to state what i said and reword it!

Now im getting tired of this here is the proof from MICROSOFT themselves...

http://www.msfn.org/comments.php?shownews=17278

http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/Sho...66453&SiteID=1

more links with proof

http://www.fragland.net/news.php?id=13740

http://news.com.com/5208-1041-0.html...76&s tart=104

I have no reason to sit here and waste my time to missinform or lie! I have to keep up to date with this stuff or I woudlnt have a job...Trust me!

IF windows XP can run DX10 games they have to dumb down the engine to DX9 shaders..and so far Companies like Flagship say they have to product 2 versions of the game.

Not only this but most games being programed for windows Vista and dX10..are staying on DX10. Example? Halo2...its all marketing.

MerLock

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07 Sep 2006 at 06:07 - 71
I think A.net would be killing themselves if they decided to release a guild wars game that didn't allow you to bring your old characters over. And I doubt they will make such a big jump in hardware requirement that most people will have to run out to build or buy new comps to play the latest game. If the hardware requirement goes up, I believe it would be a gradual change.

Klenn

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07 Sep 2006 at 06:24 - 72
LoL. Rumors make me laugh.
Um, Chapter 3 comes out next month. Once it does, won't Chapter 4 already be 6 months into development??

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07 Sep 2006 at 07:07 - 73
I wouldn't mind a Guild Wars 2 running on a whole new engine...grafics are starting to stink.

A bit off topic, but I kinda expect Gates to not release Direct 10 for XP, since his whole career is based on leverage...ugh...

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07 Sep 2006 at 15:05 - 74
I re-read the OP again, and all it says is that "Chapter 3 will be the last of the series". I don't know where people jump to the conclusion that it will be the Last Guild Wars!

Facts:
Chapter 4 is in development.

Guild Wars is, by all accounts, making money.

Conjecture:

This could be the last of the Prophecy/Faction/Nightfall storyline. That's very possible, and would not effect Guild Wars the game at all. It would just mean Chapter 4 would start a totally new storyline, which in my mind, is not a bad thing.

Omega X

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07 Sep 2006 at 16:34 - 75
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
I re-read the OP again, and all it says is that "Chapter 3 will be the last of the series". I don't know where people jump to the conclusion that it will be the Last Guild Wars!

Facts:
Chapter 4 is in development.

Guild Wars is, by all accounts, making money.

Conjecture:

This could be the last of the Prophecy/Faction/Nightfall storyline. That's very possible, and would not effect Guild Wars the game at all. It would just mean Chapter 4 would start a totally new storyline, which in my mind, is not a bad thing.
Well, series can be confused with the actual ending of the franchise. Atleast the members at Gamespot thought so too.

But the PC Format magazine says that its the end of the Prophecy/Faction/Nightfall story arc too. All we need now is a confirmation from Gaile or Alex.

Which in this case, Guild Wars will get a new story arc in Chapter 4? New Races perhaps? Something more epic? Obviously this lets them try some new things story wise.

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07 Sep 2006 at 18:04 - 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by big freddy
You know Everquest lasted from 1999 to late 2004 (maybe even early 05. But Im not sure).
Anarchy Online is still going. They've started in 09 too I think.

Just because an engine is getting old doesnt mean the game is going anywhere. Even with this so called 'old engine', when you turn up all the graphics, the landscape in Guild Wars is by far prettier than a ton of other MMOs.

It's only been a year and a half. Guild Wars isnt going anywhere.
Ultima Online is still ongoing 1997 - present
http://www.uo.com/uoml/
(8 expansions)

Everquest is still ongoing 1999 - present
http://everquest.station.sony.com/
(12th expansion is due in 2 weeks)

Anarchy Online started in 2001

all 3 games have outdated graphic engines and GW graphics are superior

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07 Sep 2006 at 18:06 - 77
In chapter 4 we will have a different game, but there wont be any official comment from Alex or Gaile till the very eve of the pre event.

Races with specific features (health, magic attunement, resistance and so on) would be really nice but it would imply a whole different playing scenario, and since the Guild Wars formula has been very successful i dont know if ANET would dare to venture far from there. Nevertheless evolution is the norm, and you cannot repeat the same trick over and over. ANET i wish you luck, i am with you!

But little by little, no need to rush and get a run to Chapter 4... time will tell

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07 Sep 2006 at 18:57 - 78
Quote:
IF windows XP can run DX10 games they have to dumb down the engine to DX9 shaders..and so far Companies like Flagship say they have to product 2 versions of the game.
Well, their fault if they use DX instead of OpenGL.

All opengl games still run on todays hardware, really quick even, and old glsl shaders still run today. But of course, most game companies rather use the incompatible hacks called DX. Luckily, the ps3 might change this...

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07 Sep 2006 at 19:20 - 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mala
Well, their fault if they use DX instead of OpenGL.

All opengl games still run on todays hardware, really quick even, and old glsl shaders still run today. But of course, most game companies rather use the incompatible hacks called DX. Luckily, the ps3 might change this...
Quake 4 uses OpenGL and requires a decent computer to run at high graphic settings. I do like the fact that OpenGL still is around and hated the shift to DX but to be honest, an optimsed OpenGL looks awesome just as well as an optimsed DirectX.

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07 Sep 2006 at 19:35 - 80
if you couldn't tranfer your old char to the new games I know I would quit I love my current char Me/Mo and wouldn't want to have to deal with pre searing and leveling...eh. Anet please let us tranfer our chars over in the future (trust me its in your best interest you probaly know this however)