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This whole fact comes from the local charity work ive been doing, collecting Jade bracelets and using them to get newbies new chest armour...It isnt much but it makes me happy..
Now the point of this is that out of each group of 8 ive taken about 7 will drop out as soon as I hit the bazaar thinking its some sort of scam, if i get a group of 8. thats only 12.5% of people trusting me so far. I then ask these people did they know armour is non-tradable only about 1/4 do (being fresh off shing jea)...thats it down to 3.125% (not knowing isnt true trust after all)...about 1/6 of them will try to exploit my charity and ask for more, lets exclude them that leaves us with 2.604166666666666666666666666667% let play the rounding game and call that 2.6%
so heres the fact...Charity is hard if only 2 out of every 100 people trust you enough to help them....I know the topic is trading armour but even after i explain the process i still get very few.... Now a few questions to finish off, please be honest
1.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing Shing Jea, do you take it?
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it?
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it?
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it?
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming)
7.Have you ever been scammed
8. Someone agrees to buy the item you're selling, but in the trade window offers more money than agreed upon. Do you a) Point the sum out to them before accepting, just to make sure, b) Accept, but repay the difference if they bring it up to you after the transaction, c) Accept, with no intention of repaying the difference if it was a mistake?
9. Simply, Trust runners?
10. In RL have you ever won anything?
I just to judge how people trust these dark days
Hardwired for Distrust?
Mr. G
VanDamselx
Some people find charities too good to be true and believe there is some sort of scam involved that people are actually being nice. It's kind of a shame that it has come down to that. If someone was offering to help me with something like that, I'd take that and then return the favor later.
Keep up being helpful- while you may only have about 1 or 2 people trusting you per run, at least you're making them happy.
Keep up being helpful- while you may only have about 1 or 2 people trusting you per run, at least you're making them happy.
Malice Black
No
Trust needs to be earned not freely given.
I would wonder what you was up to if i was a newbie and you was offering me free help. In many respects this is just like a real life situation. If someone offered to carry the shopping would you except? I bet 99% of ppl would say no
Distrusting stangers is built into us from an early age
Trust needs to be earned not freely given.
I would wonder what you was up to if i was a newbie and you was offering me free help. In many respects this is just like a real life situation. If someone offered to carry the shopping would you except? I bet 99% of ppl would say no
Distrusting stangers is built into us from an early age
Mr. G
EDit: added some other questions in case anyone wonders im:
1.no
2.no
3.c
4. cant decide
5.yes
6.no
7.no
1.no
2.no
3.c
4. cant decide
5.yes
6.no
7.no
Omega X
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Some people find charities too good to be true and believe there is some sort of scam involved that people are actually being nice. It's kind of a shame that it has come down to that.
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Mail-In Rebates for example. The company promises you your cash back if you invest in their product. But the problem with that is, once they have your money the deal is done. For the typical rebate return would take several weeks, and even after months they fail to send it regardless of how accurate you followed directions for a rebate. You have been officially scammed. Companies have been sued for this scamming. The Lesson: Don't trust rebates.
But that is one of MANY, many more scams on all levels of modern life.
Savio
It takes about a week of just playing the game (no farming) to build up the resources for 1.5k armor, which is more effective than collector armor (collector armor not having any bonuses to it.) There isn't any particular point to giving collector's armor to new people except as a temporary situation.
1. No.
2. No for the reasons above.
3. C. If he insists on still selling (which has happened before to me) then B.
4. Yes. Then again I'd be with a guildie.
5. Worth is relative, so no.
6. No.
7. Attempted but failed.
1. No.
2. No for the reasons above.
3. C. If he insists on still selling (which has happened before to me) then B.
4. Yes. Then again I'd be with a guildie.
5. Worth is relative, so no.
6. No.
7. Attempted but failed.
Mr. G
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7. Attempted but failed.
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Malice Black
1. no
2. no
3. b (since im on a new account with no money) c (if i had my old account)
4. give them the ecto
5. in market terms yes, but what savio said is correct
6. no
7. yes, im not stupid enough to press accept without checking first though
2. no
3. b (since im on a new account with no money) c (if i had my old account)
4. give them the ecto
5. in market terms yes, but what savio said is correct
6. no
7. yes, im not stupid enough to press accept without checking first though
Metanoia
5. How overpriced? I've played other games where I actually tried 'playing' the market. Generally, it doesn't pay to price your items obscenely high on the off chance that someone buys it out of ignorance. The extra time it takes to sell, the longer you go without additional funds for buying-selling.
Malice Black
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Most ppl try to play the buy/sell game but they only do it on a small scale
buy for 20 sell for 30..Zzz I'd never buy to resell unless i knew that there was 90% chance i could atleast double my original investment.
Mr G, you will find most of your poll results are very similar, distrust is safer then trusting someone and in many cases is mostly justified.
lg5000
1.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing Shing Jea, do you take it? No, because it's not my first character and I don't know them.
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it? No, why take something you already have?
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them a) ignore them along with all the other trade
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it? Yes. But then, I don't farm there much and if I do, it's with friends.
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it? No, though I was pleasently suprised when someone offered 75k for an item I thought would only get 1k
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming) Nah, stupid morals won't let me
7.Have you ever been scammed? Yes, then wondered why the person responsible couldn't be whispered to tell him/her they did a good job.
Ok, so that's how I see things. One of the nicest things I've seen was when my son (10yrs) took a day off sick (from school) and decided to play his rit. When my partner found out that my son's rit was wearing non-max armor in keineng city, he decided to help and my son is now very proud of his collectors armor he got on that day
So, most likely, a guildy who's new to the game will appreciate the offer for free armor more than a random stranger.
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it? No, why take something you already have?
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them a) ignore them along with all the other trade
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it? Yes. But then, I don't farm there much and if I do, it's with friends.
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it? No, though I was pleasently suprised when someone offered 75k for an item I thought would only get 1k
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming) Nah, stupid morals won't let me
7.Have you ever been scammed? Yes, then wondered why the person responsible couldn't be whispered to tell him/her they did a good job.
Ok, so that's how I see things. One of the nicest things I've seen was when my son (10yrs) took a day off sick (from school) and decided to play his rit. When my partner found out that my son's rit was wearing non-max armor in keineng city, he decided to help and my son is now very proud of his collectors armor he got on that day
So, most likely, a guildy who's new to the game will appreciate the offer for free armor more than a random stranger.
sgtclarity
TBH, their loss. If they don't want to risk their possessions for trust, so be it. It's a nice thing you're doing despite the obvious problems.
In all honesty though, I'm a proud player. I like to play things out for myself and learn to do things myself. THEN later on, take advice from others. Thus, charity imo really isn't worth it as most will either exploit you or just plain not trust you.
I suppose the 2% that follow through with you might be worth it, but not so in my book.
In all honesty though, I'm a proud player. I like to play things out for myself and learn to do things myself. THEN later on, take advice from others. Thus, charity imo really isn't worth it as most will either exploit you or just plain not trust you.
I suppose the 2% that follow through with you might be worth it, but not so in my book.
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1. No
2. Reword please? It's kinda late and I'm tired but I can't make any sense out of it...
3. Warn them
4. Give 1 to my partner
5. Yes (well according to guru pricing)
6. No
7. No, though numerous people have attempted to scam me.
2. Reword please? It's kinda late and I'm tired but I can't make any sense out of it...
3. Warn them
4. Give 1 to my partner
5. Yes (well according to guru pricing)
6. No
7. No, though numerous people have attempted to scam me.
Vermilion Okeanos
1. No, I earn mine.
2. No, too much hassle.
3. Depends on my mood and the person's method.
4. I keep my words.
5. No, too much time investment in finding a buyer that dumb.
6. No, I hate injustice + I hate using time to make this little money + I just want to play a freaking game.
7. If I really do get scammed, I really shouldn't know. I rarely search for trade (do my own finding), and if I do trade, I would know all about the item I want. Chances are highly unlikely to near impossible.
2. No, too much hassle.
3. Depends on my mood and the person's method.
4. I keep my words.
5. No, too much time investment in finding a buyer that dumb.
6. No, I hate injustice + I hate using time to make this little money + I just want to play a freaking game.
7. If I really do get scammed, I really shouldn't know. I rarely search for trade (do my own finding), and if I do trade, I would know all about the item I want. Chances are highly unlikely to near impossible.
Metanoia
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If you know how to "play" the market correctly then over pricing is never really an issue as you should always know the min/max an item can be sold for.
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I assume the OP was refering to people knowingly overpricing their items (which could be percieved as borderline scamming), which is why I explained how it isn't a particularly time-efficient way to make a profit anyway.
Arturo02
I disagree that most people don't trust each other in real life. You are supposed to not trust anyone online, so the atmosphere is one of mistrust right from the start.
I don't know how many times the news does experiments to see how much trust is out there and most people do the trustworthy thing. Of course, there's always someone who keeps the staged wallet dropped or the newspaper table where you pay based on the honor system and they take all the papers.
I don't think this game is any indicator of trust in rl.
I don't know how many times the news does experiments to see how much trust is out there and most people do the trustworthy thing. Of course, there's always someone who keeps the staged wallet dropped or the newspaper table where you pay based on the honor system and they take all the papers.
I don't think this game is any indicator of trust in rl.
Nevin
Ever hear of a thieve's mentality? The person has scammed people, there for expects people to scam him or her.
Curse You
So, I'm supposed to just suddenly trust a guy that I can only see a made up avatar of? The person could EASILY fake practially anything.
I could long on and suddenly claim that I am a 12 year old girl who lives in Russia. None of this would be true, but who in game would be able to prove otherwise?
The thing is, you can't fully trust someone who you never actually see. For most people, seeing is believing.
I could long on and suddenly claim that I am a 12 year old girl who lives in Russia. None of this would be true, but who in game would be able to prove otherwise?
The thing is, you can't fully trust someone who you never actually see. For most people, seeing is believing.
arcanemacabre
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Ever hear of a thieve's mentality? The person has scammed people, there for expects people to scam him or her.
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I would fall into the category of non-trusting, but innocent. I think Arturo02 hit it on the head about the anonymity of the internet creating an atmosphere of mistrust. In real life, I can pre-judge a million things about a person before words are even spoken, allowing for the ability to rely on my intuition. You have none of that on-line.
Just be smart, and not gullible. When GI Joe said "Knowing is half the battle!", I think this is what they were talking about. Educate yourself on something before jumping into it head first.
If you don't know how much you should sell that little Black Dye in your inventory for, ask around. If it seems everyone is too eager to buy it off you for 1k, 500g, 1.5k, and 200g, then check online. You'll find your answer soon enough, and you'll learn a little something, too.
As for my answers:
1.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing Shing Jea, do you take it?
I wouldn't now, no reason. If I was a newbie, and someone was giving me something for free, sure, I'd take it.
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it?
Don't see the point of this. But no.
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you A.ignore it B.Buy it C.warn them?
If I noticed it, and had the time to give a damn, C.
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it?
Sure, but again, I'd only 50/50 with someone I truly trusted, probably from RL.
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it?
Yes, but not to 'scam', just to make as much as I could.
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming)
No, and I don't intend to.
7.Have you ever been scammed?
No, and I don't intend to.
Kook~NBK~
1. No.
2. No, it's a waste of my time.
3. I warn them, tactfully. I'll PM them saying something along the lines of "Did you know....?" I aslo warn everyone in Pre-searing when I see people trying to BUY it for that (or less).
4. A deal's a deal. I pass it on to them.
5. No.
6. No.
7. Once - but for a piddly amount. I have had several goofballs try since, but no luck for them. 99% of all the trading I've done since release has been with honest people.
Have y'all been taught not to talk to strangers when you were little? Well now that you're older (by however much), you'll find out why your folks gave you that admonishment. Keep it in mind when dealing with people you don't know. For many people, it's easier for you to keep them honest than it is for them to keep themselves honest.
2. No, it's a waste of my time.
3. I warn them, tactfully. I'll PM them saying something along the lines of "Did you know....?" I aslo warn everyone in Pre-searing when I see people trying to BUY it for that (or less).
4. A deal's a deal. I pass it on to them.
5. No.
6. No.
7. Once - but for a piddly amount. I have had several goofballs try since, but no luck for them. 99% of all the trading I've done since release has been with honest people.
Have y'all been taught not to talk to strangers when you were little? Well now that you're older (by however much), you'll find out why your folks gave you that admonishment. Keep it in mind when dealing with people you don't know. For many people, it's easier for you to keep them honest than it is for them to keep themselves honest.
Zui
1. No, I'd rather earn it *if* I was just starting out. However, since I'm not just starting out, I wouldn't be wearing Shining Jea armor anyway, so it doesn't apply.
2. No.
3. Yes, I'd buy it, but first I'd try to haggle the price down to or 450g, or 400g. The seller shouldn't be selling anything if they're unsure as to its value, it's just stupid to do so.
4. If I agreed on a 50/50 split, I would honor my agreement, so yes. However, I don't farm anymore, wouldn't ever be duo farming the UW, and probably wouldn't agree to a 50/50 split in the first place, unless I actualy trusted my partner.
5. Value is realative. I've certainly sold items for (MUCH) more than what the average person would consider them worth, but if the buyer didn't agree that it was worth it, or had bothered to inform themselves on the items value, they wouldn't have purchased my item.
6. No.
7. No.
2. No.
3. Yes, I'd buy it, but first I'd try to haggle the price down to or 450g, or 400g. The seller shouldn't be selling anything if they're unsure as to its value, it's just stupid to do so.
4. If I agreed on a 50/50 split, I would honor my agreement, so yes. However, I don't farm anymore, wouldn't ever be duo farming the UW, and probably wouldn't agree to a 50/50 split in the first place, unless I actualy trusted my partner.
5. Value is realative. I've certainly sold items for (MUCH) more than what the average person would consider them worth, but if the buyer didn't agree that it was worth it, or had bothered to inform themselves on the items value, they wouldn't have purchased my item.
6. No.
7. No.
TheMosesPHD
1.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing Shing Jea, do you take it?
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it?
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it?
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it?
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming)
7.Have you ever been scammed
1. If you're talking about someone offering the collectable drops for free, then sure, why not.
2.No reason to take crappier armor than the armor on my back.
3.I'd warn em. They would've prolly gotten 50 pms of ppl wanting to buy anyway.
4.Never done this, but I'd have to say sharing drops with my partner would depend on whether or not they're doing a good job.
5. I sell things for as high a price as I can, I wouldn't consider it scamming or being something I'm trying "get away with". Usually though if I'm selling in-game I'll sell for a slightly lower price than what's being offered so I can get it sold and get back to farming or w/e I was doing. I figure selling for 5k less I can get back to farming and earn the 5k where I'd be standing in town forever if I sold for a normal price.
6. One time some of my guildies and I, uh, "temporarily manipulated" the market in Deldrimor War Camp so that two of us could buy a Brohn's Staff for 30k when they were selling for 60k usually. (>.< The staff isn't good enough to be worth 60k >.<) That's the only time I've done something "sneaky".
7. Many have tried, none have succeeded. I've had a punk Wammo try and scam me back when I used to craft and sell Deldrimor Steel, and then that same classic wammo that I think everyone's come across in ToA that tries to scam ppl selling ectos.
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it?
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it?
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it?
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming)
7.Have you ever been scammed
1. If you're talking about someone offering the collectable drops for free, then sure, why not.
2.No reason to take crappier armor than the armor on my back.
3.I'd warn em. They would've prolly gotten 50 pms of ppl wanting to buy anyway.
4.Never done this, but I'd have to say sharing drops with my partner would depend on whether or not they're doing a good job.
5. I sell things for as high a price as I can, I wouldn't consider it scamming or being something I'm trying "get away with". Usually though if I'm selling in-game I'll sell for a slightly lower price than what's being offered so I can get it sold and get back to farming or w/e I was doing. I figure selling for 5k less I can get back to farming and earn the 5k where I'd be standing in town forever if I sold for a normal price.
6. One time some of my guildies and I, uh, "temporarily manipulated" the market in Deldrimor War Camp so that two of us could buy a Brohn's Staff for 30k when they were selling for 60k usually. (>.< The staff isn't good enough to be worth 60k >.<) That's the only time I've done something "sneaky".
7. Many have tried, none have succeeded. I've had a punk Wammo try and scam me back when I used to craft and sell Deldrimor Steel, and then that same classic wammo that I think everyone's come across in ToA that tries to scam ppl selling ectos.
icedragon981
1.No, I'm far too proud to take charity at all (ask my guildies) and can get 1.5k very soon after
2.no
3.B, their loss.
4.Yes, I'm not the nicest person ever but it is RIGHTFULLY theirs and that's something I honor.
5.no, most of the time I sell something for less then I could get for a quick sale.
6.no
7.no
2.no
3.B, their loss.
4.Yes, I'm not the nicest person ever but it is RIGHTFULLY theirs and that's something I honor.
5.no, most of the time I sell something for less then I could get for a quick sale.
6.no
7.no
Silent Kitty
I don't trade and I don't need charity, operiod!
I have found newbies who flatly denied my free gifts, because they weren't perfect.
On the other hand, free gifts make newbies lazy. It makes them stay in town, begging for 30G to open a storage, or trying to buy credits for 50G so they can sell them for 100G.
This is a game, and you bought it to play. Standing in town to beg for money is not "playing". People who do that, will eventually quit the game after a week or so and your free gifts are wasted.
I have found newbies who flatly denied my free gifts, because they weren't perfect.
On the other hand, free gifts make newbies lazy. It makes them stay in town, begging for 30G to open a storage, or trying to buy credits for 50G so they can sell them for 100G.
This is a game, and you bought it to play. Standing in town to beg for money is not "playing". People who do that, will eventually quit the game after a week or so and your free gifts are wasted.
Superdarth
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POLL
1.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing Shing Jea, do you take it? 2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it? 3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them 4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it? 5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it? 6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming) 7.Have you ever been scammed I just to judge how people trust these dark days |
1:Yes.
2:No.
3:Warn them about the price,if they know id buy it.
4:Um yeah.
5:No(I hardly sell items as it is)
6:Hell no!
7:Im way to careful for that,ive never fallen for a scam,ever!
Note that i wont go into anything unless i know for certain there is no way it could be a scam,if it could be a scam i would likely decline and go on on my own,im VERY careful and i trust NOONE in Guild Wars.
Mrscoombes
1.) No
2.) No
3.) Warn them/congratulate them on winding everyone in the district up
4.) Yeah. He gets 1 ecto and I get 2. S'good shit.
5.) I can't really remember, I do tend to get things cheap though.
6.) Yes
7.) Yes
2.) No
3.) Warn them/congratulate them on winding everyone in the district up
4.) Yeah. He gets 1 ecto and I get 2. S'good shit.
5.) I can't really remember, I do tend to get things cheap though.
6.) Yes
7.) Yes
Mr. G
The general idea seems to be that people honor morals but dont trust anyone... I can see where a lot of people have come from with this, to be honest someone offering free stuff is often to good to be true.
Alot of people seem confused by question two...I suppose it could be better phrased
2. Someone is offering somehting free that you dont need do you take it?
I question at the top is more to do with the fact I had several people (only about 3-6) try to take the bracelets without getting the armour, I then saw then later selling them in the market....
Alos can i change my 6.
Once I was selling Lians in the market (yes I go there alot) and some other guy was selling them undercutting my prices...So i kept dropping mine....he kept dropping his, I droped mine stupidly low at 1k (but taking no trades) he dropped his to 900 just to spite me...I swapped chars bought his lantern and retuned to selling them at the normal price - I still carnt belive that it worked, does that count as a scam ^ ^?
Alot of people seem confused by question two...I suppose it could be better phrased
2. Someone is offering somehting free that you dont need do you take it?
I question at the top is more to do with the fact I had several people (only about 3-6) try to take the bracelets without getting the armour, I then saw then later selling them in the market....
Alos can i change my 6.
Once I was selling Lians in the market (yes I go there alot) and some other guy was selling them undercutting my prices...So i kept dropping mine....he kept dropping his, I droped mine stupidly low at 1k (but taking no trades) he dropped his to 900 just to spite me...I swapped chars bought his lantern and retuned to selling them at the normal price - I still carnt belive that it worked, does that count as a scam ^ ^?
fallot
1.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing Shing Jea, do you take it? Yes
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it? Yes
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them Warn them, then try to buy it
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it? Yes
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it? o_0, something wrong with that ?
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming) If the above is a scam then yes, otherwise no
7.Have you ever been scammed Never
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it? Yes
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them Warn them, then try to buy it
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it? Yes
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it? o_0, something wrong with that ?
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming) If the above is a scam then yes, otherwise no
7.Have you ever been scammed Never
Angel Develin
1:no
2:no
3:C
4:don't farm uw if so: deal is deal it's just a game!!
5:no
6:no
7
ne time it was for a run and the guy get 1/2 of the cash at 1/2 of the way and leaves, i've never got scammed on trades.
2:no
3:C
4:don't farm uw if so: deal is deal it's just a game!!
5:no
6:no
7
ne time it was for a run and the guy get 1/2 of the cash at 1/2 of the way and leaves, i've never got scammed on trades.
Nikki Moonlight
1.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing Shing Jea, do you take it? Yes
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it? No
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them Buy it
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it? Yes
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it? Yes
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming) No
7.Have you ever been scammed? No
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it? No
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them Buy it
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it? Yes
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it? Yes
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming) No
7.Have you ever been scammed? No
Alleji
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Taurucis
1.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing Shing Jea, do you take it?
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it?
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it?
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it?
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming)
7.Have you ever been scammed
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1) No, I don't really like the appearance of collector's armor.
2) No reason to.
3) A, he's probably going to replace it with a really dark mixed dye.
4) Yup.
5) No, everyone hates me, they don't want to buy my items.
6) No, I wouldn't do something that stupid.
7) Not on Guild Wars
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it?
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it?
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it?
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming)
7.Have you ever been scammed
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1) No, I don't really like the appearance of collector's armor.
2) No reason to.
3) A, he's probably going to replace it with a really dark mixed dye.
4) Yup.
5) No, everyone hates me, they don't want to buy my items.
6) No, I wouldn't do something that stupid.
7) Not on Guild Wars
Yakumo
1. No. I prefer to work/earn for the things that I want/need.
2. No. If I don't need/want it, I rather not waste inventory space, even if it's free.
3. Warn them if in Pre-Searing, otherwise ignore it as they have access to dye traders so they should have checked first.
4. Of course, if we agreed to 50/50, then it's 50/50.
5. No. However, how much someone is willing to pay is not for me to judge. If it's worth more to them that it does to others, then that is their business.
6. No.
7. No. The few that have attempted, have failed.
2. No. If I don't need/want it, I rather not waste inventory space, even if it's free.
3. Warn them if in Pre-Searing, otherwise ignore it as they have access to dye traders so they should have checked first.
4. Of course, if we agreed to 50/50, then it's 50/50.
5. No. However, how much someone is willing to pay is not for me to judge. If it's worth more to them that it does to others, then that is their business.
6. No.
7. No. The few that have attempted, have failed.
VitisVinifera
yesterday I was buying a bone dragon from a guy and he did the bait and switch with a putrid cyst. I mean......come on......you think anyone would fall for that? A scam is one thing, but a pathetic attempt for a very high-priced item that the buyer is automatically going to be on scam alert is just a waste of the scammer's time.
Twonaiver
1- No
2- No
3- Warn, but offer 1k lol
4- yes he gets it ( uw of fow only with friends man only anger other way)
5- Yes, but usualy i ask a fair price
6- No
7- Yes
only valid trust is real world trust, where you can hurt people for ingame scams, i wish for only 5 minutes with one scamer i know, damn kid would never chew gum again.
2- No
3- Warn, but offer 1k lol
4- yes he gets it ( uw of fow only with friends man only anger other way)
5- Yes, but usualy i ask a fair price
6- No
7- Yes
only valid trust is real world trust, where you can hurt people for ingame scams, i wish for only 5 minutes with one scamer i know, damn kid would never chew gum again.
EinherjarMx
1) No (when I was new to the game then I could have accepted it)
2) No
3) Warn
4) Wait until the end of the run and make the maths, but I would pay my half if I have to
5) No, sometimes I sell cheaper than I bought >.>
6) No
7) Sadly, yes, 100k this saturday, funny thing that was a "30k, ok?" guy >.<
2) No
3) Warn
4) Wait until the end of the run and make the maths, but I would pay my half if I have to
5) No, sometimes I sell cheaper than I bought >.>
6) No
7) Sadly, yes, 100k this saturday, funny thing that was a "30k, ok?" guy >.<
Lyta
1st - 90% of the people who want something of you are scammers. The 2% who trust you are potential scamming victims in the future.
2nd - if I'll raise a new char I'll get my desired armor whenever I want, so no need for this. Only new players will need it.
So I'm not surprised about your posting.
Remarks to your questions:
black - warn in Shing Jea or Ascalon - yes - but later in game? nope
selling over price - who makes the prices? in fact the buyers. so it's not possible to sell over price. ( not that i'd ever had the chance to do so
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2nd - if I'll raise a new char I'll get my desired armor whenever I want, so no need for this. Only new players will need it.
So I'm not surprised about your posting.
Remarks to your questions:
black - warn in Shing Jea or Ascalon - yes - but later in game? nope
selling over price - who makes the prices? in fact the buyers. so it's not possible to sell over price. ( not that i'd ever had the chance to do so
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Amity and Truth
It's something the new player quickly learns in GuildWars. Trust no one not even if he is offering stuff for free. The sad truth is that there is a horde of abusive players just stalking on their newbie pray, trying to scam them in any way possible.
I'm quite sure that by now every new starter is either uber careful or has allready been scammed by someone else. It's that bad, just have a look at the tutorial areas. They're scammer's heaven and an honest players nightmare (for example 4 people spamming they'd buy black dye for 200 gp).
To actually enjoy GuildWars you'll have to have a look at the common scams page first.
About the questions:
1.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing Shing Jea, do you take it?
Nope.
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it?
Nope.
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them
I'd warn them, but that would most probably earn my some harnished flames. Had that happen a few times where those folks i warned about the dye went full aggro on me oO
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it?
I only do this kind of stuff with friends anyway. So yes, they get it.
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it?
Depends. I've done the buy low, sell high way quite a bit but i'm making sure that the offer doesn't fall into the realm of scamming and if someone offers far too much i even tell them that my expectations were somewhat lower.
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming)
Nope.
7.Have you ever been scammed
Neither but i've seen lots and lots of attempts to scam me. About every other trade nowadays is a scam attempt. Everyone will try the lame story of "oops miscalculated" first for example.
I'm quite sure that by now every new starter is either uber careful or has allready been scammed by someone else. It's that bad, just have a look at the tutorial areas. They're scammer's heaven and an honest players nightmare (for example 4 people spamming they'd buy black dye for 200 gp).
To actually enjoy GuildWars you'll have to have a look at the common scams page first.
About the questions:
1.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing Shing Jea, do you take it?
Nope.
2.You find someone offering free collectors armour you are wearing better but identical armour, do you take it?
Nope.
3.Someone tries to sell Black dye for 500 gold do you a.ignore it b.Buy it C.warn them
I'd warn them, but that would most probably earn my some harnished flames. Had that happen a few times where those folks i warned about the dye went full aggro on me oO
4.You are 50/50ing the UW then 1 group of smites drop 3 ectos for you , rightfully 1 of them is your partners, do they get it?
I only do this kind of stuff with friends anyway. So yes, they get it.
5.Have you ever sold an item for more than its worth beacuse you know you'll get away with it?
Depends. I've done the buy low, sell high way quite a bit but i'm making sure that the offer doesn't fall into the realm of scamming and if someone offers far too much i even tell them that my expectations were somewhat lower.
6.Have you ever pulled a scam? (no details please, and im talking soft scamming)
Nope.
7.Have you ever been scammed
Neither but i've seen lots and lots of attempts to scam me. About every other trade nowadays is a scam attempt. Everyone will try the lame story of "oops miscalculated" first for example.
trialist
Charity or not, i think that doesn't really matter here. People have a natural instinct to fear the unknown and being a newb to the game, or even if you are an experienced player, you are always going to be cautious about something you do not know. It's like if you see a creepy looking dark room, do you just happily stride in, or do you take just a peek to see if there is a reason it looks so darn creepy and dark.
It's common sense and instinct that takes over when presented with a situation like what you have described. You approach them to help, they did not ask for it, hence they weren't expecting help. You then present them with a situation they are not familiar with, (i.e. jade bracelets for armour?), fear of the unknown kicks in, which leads to caution kicking in. Once those two are in play together, pretty much anything you say to convince them that it's not a scam and you really are helping them becomes useless, as they will think you are a scammer trying to convince them you aren't. The situation would be really different if you were to offer help to someone who is asking for it however, since they expect the help and fear and caution doesn't kick in quite so soon.
Maybe if you just gave them the bracelets and informed them of what can be done with them, instead of grouping with them and mapping them, you will have less grieve. Oh and if you feel that people are trying to exploit your charity, why not just provide them with the info only, just a thought, cause what you are doing is weird, and perhaps why people feel it is a scam.
It's common sense and instinct that takes over when presented with a situation like what you have described. You approach them to help, they did not ask for it, hence they weren't expecting help. You then present them with a situation they are not familiar with, (i.e. jade bracelets for armour?), fear of the unknown kicks in, which leads to caution kicking in. Once those two are in play together, pretty much anything you say to convince them that it's not a scam and you really are helping them becomes useless, as they will think you are a scammer trying to convince them you aren't. The situation would be really different if you were to offer help to someone who is asking for it however, since they expect the help and fear and caution doesn't kick in quite so soon.
Maybe if you just gave them the bracelets and informed them of what can be done with them, instead of grouping with them and mapping them, you will have less grieve. Oh and if you feel that people are trying to exploit your charity, why not just provide them with the info only, just a thought, cause what you are doing is weird, and perhaps why people feel it is a scam.
MMSDome
1.no, I find it hard taking free things from other people that i dont dislike
2.No, if i dont need it why take it?
3.ignore it, Id rather stay out of something i dont ened to involve myself in.
4.I myself hate being cheated and lied to so i stick to my word and give them the ecto
5.I sell items based on guildwars guru prices and the average rate of materials in game
6.No i have not I dislike being scammed so I would never put anyone else through that.
7. All the time on droks runs. They pay the half at snakes but at rankor leave. They go offline then when i pm them later i get ignored. Which in turn i ask guildies and friends to PM spike them asking about free ecto
There is little trust in the game unless you know the people in the real world or have played with them for quite a long time. I gave runs for tips (not enforced) for guildies and had a few guys abuse it and join the guild and leave when they got done with me. This isnt my current guild it was my past guild, I learned from it and dont give things free unless they have been in the guild for 3 months.
2.No, if i dont need it why take it?
3.ignore it, Id rather stay out of something i dont ened to involve myself in.
4.I myself hate being cheated and lied to so i stick to my word and give them the ecto
5.I sell items based on guildwars guru prices and the average rate of materials in game
6.No i have not I dislike being scammed so I would never put anyone else through that.
7. All the time on droks runs. They pay the half at snakes but at rankor leave. They go offline then when i pm them later i get ignored. Which in turn i ask guildies and friends to PM spike them asking about free ecto
There is little trust in the game unless you know the people in the real world or have played with them for quite a long time. I gave runs for tips (not enforced) for guildies and had a few guys abuse it and join the guild and leave when they got done with me. This isnt my current guild it was my past guild, I learned from it and dont give things free unless they have been in the guild for 3 months.