Foo:
You seem to have two issues:
1. 55hp build (that can be used by any class)
2. bots
What I can make out of your posts is "the money THEY make"
If you want to remove the bots from the game >> sign
If you want to nerf the 55hp build >> not signed
other classes use 55 build as well without PS so it would be unfair tho the other 55builds because one class uses it the most.
To Anet: a petition: nerf the 55 exploit.
Felessan
elLOCOmutha
/Signed
I think Anet needs to seriously start looking at some of the builds these people are using. Do they even play this game?
I think Anet needs to seriously start looking at some of the builds these people are using. Do they even play this game?
Nevin
You seem very unknowledged, Ritualists can farm, Warriors can farm, Assassins can farm (to an extent). So why nerf only the Monks?...
Shadow Dragon
To the point of the thread nerfing one skill does not just affect the build you are trying to get rid off but you also hurt quite a few other builds. nerf PS go ahead. but then you ruin pvp builds and eg. the boon prot build alot of people WANT for a full balanced group in FoW or UW. but then again you didn't really think about your argument properly now did you? didn't think so.
trialist
Why go to all the trouble of nerfing the skills? Simply putting a nec with vamp gaze in all the popular farming spots and 55 botters would die overnight (but probably evolve to something else, botters will be botters and can't really be stopped). Most of the farmable spots are simply because of a lack of proper mixing of the classes, thus making that area vulnerable to a particular type of built, or class. I mean think about it, when you solo farm, what kind of mobs are you farming? I'll bet most of you would be going after mobs that are of a similiar class rather than mixed mobs, which are a lot harder to farm. If anet bothered to ensure that all areas had a proper mix of classes, the 55 monk would have never became popular, since it would have became a "got hit once and died" kind of built.
Chris Blackstar
Buying money from e-bay is against the user agreement for this game, but that is only part of a much larger problem, that fact that monks get better drops then any other profession, but of course let's not look at that right now either.
The main cause to this problem is the current inflation in the game caused by players selling weapons for 100K+ectos that creates a need for fast money, that creates a need to make fast money through the use of bots, which creates a understanding to those who want to profit from others greed(A piece of the pie).
You want to stop bots, then stop the inflation. No one will want huge amounts of gold, if there is no where to spend it. Most of the players who have responded negativly to this thread are the direct cause of the problem, and as far as I see it, this is not a problem, because change is the enemy.
So in conclusion, nothing needs to be nerfed as far as characters or skills go, what needs to be nerfed is the current inflation in the economy that is causing the demand for gold(I hate to say this, but learn to live with it, Anet really cares, but also knows it would destroy the games economy as well as the game itself if they took action to stop the inflation.)
The main cause to this problem is the current inflation in the game caused by players selling weapons for 100K+ectos that creates a need for fast money, that creates a need to make fast money through the use of bots, which creates a understanding to those who want to profit from others greed(A piece of the pie).
You want to stop bots, then stop the inflation. No one will want huge amounts of gold, if there is no where to spend it. Most of the players who have responded negativly to this thread are the direct cause of the problem, and as far as I see it, this is not a problem, because change is the enemy.
So in conclusion, nothing needs to be nerfed as far as characters or skills go, what needs to be nerfed is the current inflation in the economy that is causing the demand for gold(I hate to say this, but learn to live with it, Anet really cares, but also knows it would destroy the games economy as well as the game itself if they took action to stop the inflation.)
foo
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Foo:
You seem to have two issues: 1. 55hp build (that can be used by any class) 2. bots What I can make out of your posts is "the money THEY make" If you want to remove the bots from the game >> sign If you want to nerf the 55hp build >> not signed other classes use 55 build as well without PS so it would be unfair tho the other 55builds because one class uses it the most. |
The Herbalizer
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Buying money from e-bay is against the user agreement for this game, but that is only part of a much larger problem, that fact that monks get better drops then any other profession, but of course let's not look at that right now either.
The main cause to this problem is the current inflation in the game caused by players selling weapons for 100K+ectos that creates a need for fast money, that creates a need to make fast money through the use of bots, which creates a understanding to those who want to profit from others greed(A piece of the pie). You want to stop bots, then stop the inflation. No one will want huge amounts of gold, if there is no where to spend it. Most of the players who have responded negativly to this thread are the direct cause of the problem, and as far as I see it, this is not a problem, because change is the enemy. So in conclusion, nothing needs to be nerfed as far as characters or skills go, what needs to be nerfed is the current inflation in the economy that is causing the demand for gold(I hate to say this, but learn to live with it, Anet really cares, but also knows it would destroy the games economy as well as the game itself if they took action to stop the inflation.) |
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Why go to all the trouble of nerfing the skills? Simply putting a nec with vamp gaze in all the popular farming spots and 55 botters would die overnight (but probably evolve to something else, botters will be botters and can't really be stopped). Most of the farmable spots are simply because of a lack of proper mixing of the classes, thus making that area vulnerable to a particular type of built, or class. I mean think about it, when you solo farm, what kind of mobs are you farming? I'll bet most of you would be going after mobs that are of a similiar class rather than mixed mobs, which are a lot harder to farm. If anet bothered to ensure that all areas had a proper mix of classes, the 55 monk would have never became popular, since it would have became a "got hit once and died" kind of built.
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...but that is only part of a much larger problem, that fact that monks get better drops then any other profession, but of course let's not look at that right now either.
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The main cause to this problem is the current inflation in the game caused by players selling weapons for 100K+ectos that creates a need for fast money, that creates a need to make fast money through the use of bots, which creates a understanding to those who want to profit from others greed(A piece of the pie).
You want to stop bots, then stop the inflation. No one will want huge amounts of gold, if there is no where to spend it. Most of the players who have responded negativly to this thread are the direct cause of the problem, and as far as I see it, this is not a problem, because change is the enemy. So in conclusion, nothing needs to be nerfed as far as characters or skills go, what needs to be nerfed is the current inflation in the economy that is causing the demand for gold(I hate to say this, but learn to live with it, Anet really cares, but also knows it would destroy the games economy as well as the game itself if they took action to stop the inflation.) |
The problem is people comming into such game and seeing items and going OMFG I HAV TO HAV DAT !!!1 instead of thinking wait a second, maybe theres a weapon like it but cheaper that suits my needs until now. When youre 16, unless youre rich, you dont get a ferrari for your bday, you get a honda or something else that suits you until you can get yourself better.
AND COULD SOMEONE PLEASE KILL THIS HORSE!!!! im tired of seeing its rotten corpse beaten. seriously its not alive anymore. stop with the abuse...
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Chris Blackstar
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Um the prices of in-game items are at an all time low. I take it you didnt play when inperfect common gold items would sell for 100k + which now are merch food. You can buy absolutely tons of perfect gold items for like 5-10k which once cost hundreds of thousands of platinum. Items were never cheaper than they are now. I suggest you learn about the history of the Guild Wars economy before making statements such what you have.
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The Herbalizer
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I suggest you take a ride over to LA, and or any other town and see for yourself what items are going for, look at my join date, I have been playing the game since the the second beta weekend, and the economy has only got worse since GW has come out. I remember when ectos where still set a 100G., do you?
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I dont need to go to LA and see what items sell for as I have had months and months of trading experience which has accumulated me well over 10 million gold. I also have one of the best weapon collections in the game and I know for a fact the vast majority of it has lost alot of value.
Pro-Monk
I get soooooooo tired of people asking Anet to swing the nerf bat on this or that because THEY don't like something. This game has continually gotten worse and worse as Anet keeps messing with things that aren't broke.
Getting "rid" of the 55 monk build, will not get rid of bots or reduce the amount of gold sold for real cash!!!!! The only way to do that is to nerf any kind of farming at all, which in effect, would kill the PvE end of the game.
Your real agenda seem to be aimed at the game's economy, which isn't solely affected by bots or purchased gold. Thank Anet if you don't like how the economy is going, they done enough to screw it up. Look at how worthless runes are due to ettin farming (which isn't farmed by 55 Monks). And now there seems to be a Aviacara rune farm build which I doubt is based on a 55 Monk. And who says that making everything "cheap" in the game is good? If everything can be purchased for 100g, where's the fun in that?
Anet has already done nerfing on the 55 Monk anyway. Phophet's Path griffon farming was totally nerfed for the 55 Monk build, which is where everyone complained of the bots operating. I totally agree with others that state the fact that getting rid of the 55 Monks will not stop botting. It will only serve to eliminate a legitimate farming build that's used by a lot of LEGITIMATE players.
I totally oppose any changes directed soley at the 55 Monk build.
Getting "rid" of the 55 monk build, will not get rid of bots or reduce the amount of gold sold for real cash!!!!! The only way to do that is to nerf any kind of farming at all, which in effect, would kill the PvE end of the game.
Your real agenda seem to be aimed at the game's economy, which isn't solely affected by bots or purchased gold. Thank Anet if you don't like how the economy is going, they done enough to screw it up. Look at how worthless runes are due to ettin farming (which isn't farmed by 55 Monks). And now there seems to be a Aviacara rune farm build which I doubt is based on a 55 Monk. And who says that making everything "cheap" in the game is good? If everything can be purchased for 100g, where's the fun in that?
Anet has already done nerfing on the 55 Monk anyway. Phophet's Path griffon farming was totally nerfed for the 55 Monk build, which is where everyone complained of the bots operating. I totally agree with others that state the fact that getting rid of the 55 Monks will not stop botting. It will only serve to eliminate a legitimate farming build that's used by a lot of LEGITIMATE players.
I totally oppose any changes directed soley at the 55 Monk build.
Chris Blackstar
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ok seriously WTF are u smoking... i need some after reading this thread...
While i agree that certian things are overpriced in this game, totally dumping the economy of the game wont fix the problem either. Certian things ARE valued high and hold a higher resel value base on where the item comes from, the weapon, staff, shield, wand, or offhand skin it has, and the stats of the item itself. While yes most people know about collectors, traders, weaponsmiths... when you have played this game for a while and accumulated some money in this game, there are limited things to sepnd it on. either rare skinned weapons, dyes, or armors. The problem is people comming into such game and seeing items and going OMFG I HAV TO HAV DAT !!!1 instead of thinking wait a second, maybe theres a weapon like it but cheaper that suits my needs until now. When youre 16, unless youre rich, you dont get a ferrari for your bday, you get a honda or something else that suits you until you can get yourself better. AND COULD SOMEONE PLEASE KILL THIS HORSE!!!! im tired of seeing its rotten corpse beaten. seriously its not alive anymore. stop with the abuse... |
Lastly, nothing is worth more then 100K, I don't care how rare it is, set the example, don't profit by it.
devils cruelty
i love solo farming its great i wa/mo farm all the time i find 55hp monks a great way of farming instead of jsut doing UW or FoW as u get better drops and it breaks away the pure healing role a monk does,
most ppl make all their money from farming, i do solo farm and FoW if i do solidly solo farm i cna make 50k in 2 hours maybe, ppl in my guild 55hp then can make way more but tht doesnt bother me i wish i had 55hp
btw yes things are overpriced, expecially perfect mod axes and swords i just get greens of bosses 2 get weps as im not gonna pay 100+ectos for a gold axe when i can get free from boss with same mods
most ppl make all their money from farming, i do solo farm and FoW if i do solidly solo farm i cna make 50k in 2 hours maybe, ppl in my guild 55hp then can make way more but tht doesnt bother me i wish i had 55hp
btw yes things are overpriced, expecially perfect mod axes and swords i just get greens of bosses 2 get weps as im not gonna pay 100+ectos for a gold axe when i can get free from boss with same mods
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I suggest you take a ride over to LA, and or any other town and see for yourself what items are going for, look at my join date, I have been playing the game since the the second beta weekend, and the economy has only got worse since GW has come out. I remember when ectos where still set a 100G., do you?
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Gold weapons and Fow armor are not essential, you can buy armor with exactly the same stats for 1.5k, and greens/collecters items for next to nothing. These items are supposed to be a symbol of achievment, and a reward for those who have put the effort in
You make ecto cheaper and everyone starts running around in FoW wielding crystaline swordsand it all becomes completly redundant.
The point is: more expensive in GWs does not mean better. Every expensive item has a cheap counterpart. Items were designed from the start to make sure players that would never be able to afford the rarer items would not be left behind.
If you want the rarer items, put the effort in.
Chris Blackstar
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Ectoplasms do not represent the whole economy. The vast majority of items/materials etc have lost alot of their value. You could also argue several of the monstrous materials have increased in value but again they do not represent the whole economy. Virtually every Tyrian and now many Factions items/weapons have lost value. Most mods are rediculously cheap i.e. 3/1 vampiric mods selling for 3k when once 75k.
I dont need to go to LA and see what items sell for as I have had months and months of trading experience which has accumulated me well over 10 million gold. I also have one of the best weapon collections in the game and I know for a fact the vast majority of it has lost alot of value. |
Players like you cause the better mods in drops to go up, to deflat your overpricing habits that were causing players to go and make bots to harvest gold to sell to others to buy your items.
Now maybe you can see that you and many like you caused the problem we are currently in, but don't complain, your rich because of it, I hope that all your money makes and items makes you happy, earned at others expense.
wilderness
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Well Congradulations on being the cause of the problem, this selling of gold did not happen overnight you know. It happened when traders like yourself would sell items for outragous prices, I would of only sold that mod at the time you sold it for 5 to 10K, because truely that was all it was really worth.
Players like you cause the better mods in drops to go up, to deflat your overpricing habits that were causing players to go and make bots to harvest gold to sell to others to buy your items. Now maybe you can see that you and many like you caused the problem we are currently in, but don't complain, your rich because of it, I hope that all your money makes and items makes you happy, earned at others expense. |
If you want rarer items, put the effort in and farm or learn to buy and sell.
If you don't care about rare items, then buy their cheaper counterparts.
I really don't see how you're being affected here.
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I'd say the best option is to just reduce the stacking health penalties. It's good for Anet, non-bots, PvPers
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Why go to all the trouble of nerfing the skills? Simply putting a nec with vamp gaze in all the popular farming spots and 55 botters would die overnight (but probably evolve to something else, botters will be botters and can't really be stopped). Most of the farmable spots are simply because of a lack of proper mixing of the classes, thus making that area vulnerable to a particular type of built, or class. I mean think about it, when you solo farm, what kind of mobs are you farming? I'll bet most of you would be going after mobs that are of a similiar class rather than mixed mobs, which are a lot harder to farm. If anet bothered to ensure that all areas had a proper mix of classes, the 55 monk would have never became popular, since it would have became a "got hit once and died" kind of built.
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As others have said, if you remove one farming method you only stop the farming for a few days till the farmers get new characters up and running on the new farming builds. But if ANET knows the areas the bots usually farm, and how they do it, they can detect possible bots eaiser.
But the main reason why skill changes to stop 55 monks aren't introduced is the effects the changes will have on PvP.
Because of the -50hp cesta and the hp penalty stacking, I once came up with a theory about 55monks being intended on ANETs part. I can put the hp penalty stacking down to a quirk of the GW engine that wasn't worth doing anything about, but can't think of any other reason why the -50hp cesta exists. If someone questions this theory I won't defend it.
Chris Blackstar
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So what you're saying is everything is too expensive now? Rubbish. You can spend a few days farming or buying and selling and afford any of the 'standard' rare skins if you know what you're doing.
Gold weapons and Fow armor are not essential, you can buy armor with exactly the same stats for 1.5k, and greens/collecters items for next to nothing. These items are supposed to be a symbol of achievment, and a reward for those who have put the effort in You make ecto cheaper and everyone starts running around in FoW wielding crystaline swordsand it all becomes completly redundant. The point is: more expensive in GWs does not mean better. Every expensive item has a cheap counterpart. Items were designed from the start to make sure players that would never be able to afford the rarer items would not be left behind. If you want the rarer items, put the effort in. |
By the way, I am not bitter, but you are DEE,DEE,DEE. Learn to read a little more into what people are saying, before you respond to an aguement, I do not care about rare items, I have plenty of gold, and the know how to farm items I so desire. This is about preventing the nerfing of another build or skills, to the misunderstanding of the primary cause of why bots were created.
EternalTempest
/Not Signed
There are way to many non-55 farming builds for this to have any effect.
For those that thing these 55 hp monk would then be in parties to help heal.. they just switch over to non-monk aka not "free up" monks.
Anet can easily (and has with Factions + Later) alter mob groups to make this not work as part of level design where they don't want it.
There are way to many non-55 farming builds for this to have any effect.
For those that thing these 55 hp monk would then be in parties to help heal.. they just switch over to non-monk aka not "free up" monks.
Anet can easily (and has with Factions + Later) alter mob groups to make this not work as part of level design where they don't want it.
wilderness
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This is about preventing the nerfing of another build or skills.
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There will always be a way to exploit the game for profit. There's no way to prevent this unless we destroty the market completely and make all items available for the same prices at merchants, and make those prices stick.
Regardless of the moral/legal arguments against bots, and your crys of 'inflation', the values remain relative and there is no real problem.
Zakarr
55 hp build doesn't need nerfing. It is vulnerable against enchantment removing, massive degen and pathetic against decent life stealing.
Spirit bonder is something which would need more attention than 55 hp because only counters against it are enchantment removing and below 60 damage (15 armor or less) spamming assuming you have also high health. Life stealing spikes work too but these are not in PvE.
Spirit bonder is something which would need more attention than 55 hp because only counters against it are enchantment removing and below 60 damage (15 armor or less) spamming assuming you have also high health. Life stealing spikes work too but these are not in PvE.
Silver_Fang
55 is not the only solo farming build, there are lots and lots of solo farming build, seen the ritualist video? Forest farm, and even a newer version, a Ecto solo farming Ritualist build. Ritualist Warden farming, troll farming, Vermin farm. Ritualist is the new farming King!
Minus Sign
1. 605 build makes this useless
2 again, the 605; why use a cesta?
3 RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO with my boonprot, my RC, my BL and i'll eata you face
4 you better find something else rather than blast the prot line because this ranger has an itch
5*considering how much faster, easier and more practical it is to farm most areas with other builds, I find it hard to believe that all/most bot farmers are still 55s. You just know where the 55 bots are (or think you do).
2 again, the 605; why use a cesta?
3 RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO with my boonprot, my RC, my BL and i'll eata you face
4 you better find something else rather than blast the prot line because this ranger has an itch
5*considering how much faster, easier and more practical it is to farm most areas with other builds, I find it hard to believe that all/most bot farmers are still 55s. You just know where the 55 bots are (or think you do).
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1. make the hp loss from two runes of the same attribute not stack. this will automaticly get the minimum hp to 130, and will make 55monking much harder, and with no downside for other players.
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As for touching PS that is a no no.
S_Serpent
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And I've never farmed with my primary monk, loved my 55hp Elementalist way better for it :P and we do have 5 different superior runes. I don't need perfect golds, I fight with perfect greens, I don't need rare skin, my greens are rare enough for me. All I need is gold to buy skills and skill points, so that's why I farm solo!
but 55 is a viable build so don't trash something, then we should ban all knives simply because they can be used for killing instead of cutting your meat :P
And I've never farmed with my primary monk, loved my 55hp Elementalist way better for it :P and we do have 5 different superior runes. I don't need perfect golds, I fight with perfect greens, I don't need rare skin, my greens are rare enough for me. All I need is gold to buy skills and skill points, so that's why I farm solo!
but 55 is a viable build so don't trash something, then we should ban all knives simply because they can be used for killing instead of cutting your meat :P
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(Mods: please not move this into the sanitarium. I know it's a kind of a suggestion, but it is also an important general game discussion, that I want us to have here).
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Here's a better idea, nerf whiners please.
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I suggest you take a ride over to LA, and or any other town and see for yourself what items are going for, look at my join date, I have been playing the game since the the second beta weekend, and the economy has only got worse since GW has come out. I remember when ectos where still set a 100G., do you?
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Stockholm
The 55 built will not be nerfed by A-Net, no matter what we think, the bot's will not go away(some get banned so it looks like they make an effort),
players using bot's are a big source of income for NC-Soft.
I would like to see them gone, but alas .......
As far as the 55 goes it is cleaver built using skills and runes , but all it takes is a couple off mesmer monsters to stop the bot's from farming that area, then it takes a human input.
So unless you (OP) can come up with an Income source equalling what NC-soft makes on the bot operators I don't see any changes to the Bot's even if the 55 is nerfed.
players using bot's are a big source of income for NC-Soft.
I would like to see them gone, but alas .......
As far as the 55 goes it is cleaver built using skills and runes , but all it takes is a couple off mesmer monsters to stop the bot's from farming that area, then it takes a human input.
So unless you (OP) can come up with an Income source equalling what NC-soft makes on the bot operators I don't see any changes to the Bot's even if the 55 is nerfed.
GUE Tech
Oh no not again! What is wrong with you. Have you tried the 55? It is not all that great anymore, and who really cares about the bots? Post after post after post, it does nothing to the game. The developers have done enough nerfing without skill changes. Do you think they don't know about the 55?
It adds some fun and variety to the game i think.
Oh wait I know how to balance everything perfectly:
1. One class for everyone
2. One skill for everyone
3. One weapon for everyone
4. One set of armor for everyone
Maybe we can have different skins to pick from, but they would all do the same thing.
Sound sarcastic? Well this is where this game is headed. True there may be some serious imbalances from time to time, that need fixed. but give us some room to have fun too. Gee Whiz.
Tell everyon what your favorite, secret, this is what I think gives me an edge on the battlefield skill is, so I can cry NERF!!
All that being said, I hardly play my 55 anymore anyways, infact, after over a year of dedication I've lost heart. The EoE thing pushed me over the edge, and I don't even use it that often. The only time I used it was for farming char carvings and gargoyle skulls for holiday items, with my warrior no less. But it has gotten absurd.
I am playing something else now with horrid balance, I mean it takse 15 guys to take down 1 guy in pvp, but in some strange way it's a hoot. And you know what, if I don't like it I could play that class too.
What else while I am at it. Oh I know, this game also has, wait.. wait for it...
AN AUCTION HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh, and it's not that goofy cartoon land WoW.
Sorry, I am done now.
Edit: While I was typing this I just sold something on the auction house :P
Edit: Ha! Just sold 2 more things.
It adds some fun and variety to the game i think.
Oh wait I know how to balance everything perfectly:
1. One class for everyone
2. One skill for everyone
3. One weapon for everyone
4. One set of armor for everyone
Maybe we can have different skins to pick from, but they would all do the same thing.
Sound sarcastic? Well this is where this game is headed. True there may be some serious imbalances from time to time, that need fixed. but give us some room to have fun too. Gee Whiz.
Tell everyon what your favorite, secret, this is what I think gives me an edge on the battlefield skill is, so I can cry NERF!!
All that being said, I hardly play my 55 anymore anyways, infact, after over a year of dedication I've lost heart. The EoE thing pushed me over the edge, and I don't even use it that often. The only time I used it was for farming char carvings and gargoyle skulls for holiday items, with my warrior no less. But it has gotten absurd.
I am playing something else now with horrid balance, I mean it takse 15 guys to take down 1 guy in pvp, but in some strange way it's a hoot. And you know what, if I don't like it I could play that class too.
What else while I am at it. Oh I know, this game also has, wait.. wait for it...
AN AUCTION HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh, and it's not that goofy cartoon land WoW.
Sorry, I am done now.
Edit: While I was typing this I just sold something on the auction house :P
Edit: Ha! Just sold 2 more things.
Red-Tide
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Enough whining about the 55's...
Enough whining about the 55's...
Ehrenia
you cannot change these skills for a farming reason as they are used in pvp too often and are fine as they are.
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Um nerf 55 monks and all you will see is tons of warrior farmers. Warriors can farm the droknars forge troll cave and there are builds which are very fast too. I guarantee the gold sellers will find another way of farming. May aswell nerf all the farming areas if you cant stop the farmers lol. How about anet just nerf gold making so noone can make gold?
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On top of what Herbalizer said, whoever started this thread should understand that 55 is a build, not an exploit. It works because it takes skills not because it's a bug.
rong626
NO!MANY PPL ARE FARMING WITH 55 HP MONKS.SO U WANT TO MAKE 55 HP NO U WANT TO MAKE 55HP MONKS GET NERF?HOW CAN U DO THAT?THATS GW PROBLEM IF THEY CANT BAN THESE BOTS,THATS NOT OURS!OUR JOB IS TO HAVE FUN,BUY NIGHTFALL,ENJOY IT,AND LET ARENANET DO THE UPDATES!
yes im a noob.
yes im a noob.
GloryFox
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Personaly I am so sick of trying for an hour to actualy quest in UW only to have it ruined by 55's LF SS necro. There is more to this game then ecto.
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/signed for a third time
Personaly I am so sick of trying for an hour to actualy quest in UW only to have it ruined by 55's LF SS necro. There is more to this game then ecto.
Nexium
Close this thread so the bitching will stop...
lyra_song
Someone have graham crackers?
Kcp
The people that want 55's nerfed or removed from the game are clueless. If you nerf 55's then you're gonna have to deal with high hp spirit bonders. Then there will be a new thread nerf spirit bonders bla bla waa waa. The spirit bond monks aren't going to heal you just like a 55 hp'r wouldn't.
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|pyro|
NOOOB,
I gues you are playing GW for like what 2 weeks and you are greedy and you envy those who have 15k/FoW armors and Rare skinn weapons?
BTW: Ever Heard of invinci ele or ele geomancer tank?, they can easily replace 55hp monk.
I gues you are playing GW for like what 2 weeks and you are greedy and you envy those who have 15k/FoW armors and Rare skinn weapons?
BTW: Ever Heard of invinci ele or ele geomancer tank?, they can easily replace 55hp monk.